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NV, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2024 11:05:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/3/2024 11:07:25 PM EDT
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I’ve been saying this for years, the days of Hughes’ and the NFA ARE numbered….
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NV, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2024 11:22:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bandanabandit1: I’ve been saying this for years, the days of Hughes’ and the NFA ARE numbered…. My body is ready…My wallet isn’t. |
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Posted: 5/3/2024 11:29:14 PM EDT
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2024 11:34:50 PM EDT
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Do I get my $200 back?
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Posted: 5/3/2024 11:37:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagoth-Ur: My body is ready My wallet isn't. Meh. If the NFA goes away, converting existing stuff will be much cheaper than buying new. |
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Posted: 5/3/2024 11:42:40 PM EDT
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New MGs should be allowed to be added to the NFA.
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OH, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2024 11:42:44 PM EDT
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A $200 stamp makes putting this together a LOT easier~
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OH, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2024 11:44:27 PM EDT
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Someone will need to sell tubes for Stens, Sterlings and MP40's.
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Posted: 5/3/2024 11:44:34 PM EDT
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cliff notes?
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NV, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2024 11:47:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uafgrad: cliff notes? A guy with a felony for attempted murder and manslaughter tried to sell a PPSh-41 to the ATF, and is now appealing to the most liberal circuit in the US. So this is going to go nowhere. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 5/3/2024 11:49:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagoth-Ur: My body is ready…My wallet isn’t. This so much. I'm going to wear out my mill and lathe when the NFA falls. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 12:12:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thrasymachus: A guy with a felony for attempted murder and manslaughter tried to sell a PPSh-41 to the ATF, and is now appealing to the most liberal circuit in the US. So this is going to go nowhere. But the appeals, man. The appeals. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 12:17:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thrasymachus: A guy with a felony for attempted murder and manslaughter tried to sell a PPSh-41 to the ATF, and is now appealing to the most liberal circuit in the US. So this is going to go nowhere. Why does it always have to be a shitbag? The government isn't going to let this shitbag have a win. The NY guy with the 3D printers is the kind of case we want. Law abiding in every other way, minority, has a job, not a shitbag. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 12:19:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thrasymachus: A guy with a felony for attempted murder and manslaughter tried to sell a PPSh-41 to the ATF, and is now appealing to the most liberal circuit in the US. So this is going to go nowhere. Piss poor cases create piss poor case law. This guy is a piss poor candidate. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 12:20:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UV18: Piss poor cases create piss poor case law. This guy is a piss poor candidate. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UV18: Originally Posted By Thrasymachus: A guy with a felony for attempted murder and manslaughter tried to sell a PPSh-41 to the ATF, and is now appealing to the most liberal circuit in the US. So this is going to go nowhere. Piss poor cases create piss poor case law. This guy is a piss poor candidate. This is literally how case law engineering works. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 12:22:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pallas: Do I get my $200 back? Fuck it I'll let them keep all my previous NFA money. If I can walk home with a SAW tomorrow |
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AK, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 12:34:16 AM EDT
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Everyone who owns a registered toy is going to support this?
Unlikely. At the same time, Glock switches everywhere these days... It does feel like you should be able to pay the $200 and add things to the registration list. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 12:43:40 AM EDT
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Unfavorable defendant
This is exactly what they want. If anything happens, it won’t be good. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 1:26:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JKH62: A $200 stamp makes putting this together a LOT easier~ https://i.imgur.com/RhPD3n2.jpg There's no reason it should have been taken apart to begin with. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 1:29:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jambalaya: Meh. If the NFA goes away, converting existing stuff will be much cheaper than buying new. Think of the ammo prices and shortages.. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 1:31:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Dagoth-Ur]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Middlelength: Everyone who owns a registered toy is going to support this? Unlikely. At the same time, Glock switches everywhere these days... It does feel like you should be able to pay the $200 and add things to the registration list. I remember the screenshots from Hollis v Holder(later Lynch) from those fuckers on an NFA forum, they were doing the classic . “No everyone should have them!” “Muh investment!”, they can eat Taco Bell. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 1:33:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JKH62: A $200 stamp makes putting this together a LOT easier~ https://i.imgur.com/RhPD3n2.jpg PkM? |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 1:50:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jambalaya: Why does it always have to be a shitbag? The government isn't going to let this shitbag have a win. The NY guy with the 3D printers is the kind of case we want. Law abiding in every other way, minority, has a job, not a shitbag. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jambalaya: Originally Posted By Thrasymachus: A guy with a felony for attempted murder and manslaughter tried to sell a PPSh-41 to the ATF, and is now appealing to the most liberal circuit in the US. So this is going to go nowhere. Why does it always have to be a shitbag? The government isn't going to let this shitbag have a win. The NY guy with the 3D printers is the kind of case we want. Law abiding in every other way, minority, has a job, not a shitbag. Miranda got us the Miranda rights. Look that dude up. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 2:30:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FreefallRet: New MGs should be allowed to be added to the NFA. Why you wanna levy a tax on my rights? There should not be an NFA. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 2:31:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperSixOne: It's by design. This is literally how case law engineering works. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperSixOne: Originally Posted By UV18: Originally Posted By Thrasymachus: A guy with a felony for attempted murder and manslaughter tried to sell a PPSh-41 to the ATF, and is now appealing to the most liberal circuit in the US. So this is going to go nowhere. Piss poor cases create piss poor case law. This guy is a piss poor candidate. This is literally how case law engineering works. Exactly. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 5:03:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bandanabandit1: I’ve been saying this for years, the days of Hughes’ and the NFA ARE numbered…. I doubt it. I think people like you say that because they see the legal flaws in the government's arguments and understand the second amendment. What you're forgetting is that the courts are just not going to care and make whatever lame excuses they need to justify keeping the law the way it is. I don't think there will ever be unregulated machine guns. Removing the Hughes amendment is slightly more possible but I'd still say pretty unlikely. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 7:44:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Master_Blaster: Why you wanna levy a tax on my rights? There should not be an NFA. Miller essentially said MG's and other NFA things are outside the purview of the 2a |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 7:58:16 AM EDT
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A 2023 shitposter account posted a link with no description! Let's all click on it!
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 8:01:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jambalaya: Why does it always have to be a shitbag? The government isn't going to let this shitbag have a win. The NY guy with the 3D printers is the kind of case we want. Law abiding in every other way, minority, has a job, not a shitbag. Maybe it’s because most sane people are not going to put themselves willingly in a position where they stand to lose nearly all their (remaining) freedoms on the slim chance they happen to sit before a perfect string of judges in the remote chance of changing nearly a decade of jurisprudence. Having spent years and vast sums of money myself to clear a felony I didn’t commit but was charged with, I can understand why there are nigh unto no volunteers, especially at the federal level. It ain’t rocket science. But we run with the case we have, not the ones we want. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 8:07:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bandanabandit1: I’ve been saying this for years, the days of Hughes’ and the NFA ARE numbered…. That’s never going to happen. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 8:09:50 AM EDT
[#31]
9th circus will deny it, then the SCROTUS will refuse to hear it. Then what?
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Posted: 5/4/2024 8:12:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bandanabandit1: I’ve been saying this for years, the days of Hughes’ and the NFA ARE numbered…. It wont happen in the 9th circus. |
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MS, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 8:12:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FreefallRet: New MGs should be allowed to be added to the NFA. That's all it would take. A ruling that banning new registrations was unconstitutional. It's like not buying Microsoft at $2 a share, but pre-86, a select fire gun was about the same price as a semi-auto. It was the $200 tax that turned a $400 gun into a $600 gun. A pawn shop guy down here saw the future and bought a hundred sears and registered them right at the last minute and made some serious bank in the years since. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 8:12:58 AM EDT
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Just like suppressors, the day they vote someone will get shot and the GOPers will vote their heart and vote no.
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Posted: 5/4/2024 8:14:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gotigers: It wont happen in the 9th circus. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gotigers: Originally Posted By bandanabandit1: I've been saying this for years, the days of Hughes' and the NFA ARE numbered . It wont happen in the 9th circus. Probably won't happen with the current SCOTUS either. You would need a mixture of 9 Thomas' and alito's. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 8:14:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jambalaya: Why does it always have to be a shitbag? The government isn't going to let this shitbag have a win. The NY guy with the 3D printers is the kind of case we want. Law abiding in every other way, minority, has a job, not a shitbag. This. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 8:21:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hobs98: Fuck it I'll let them keep all my previous NFA money. If I can walk home with a SAW tomorrow I'm the same way, but with DIAS's. I'm not holding my breath though. The way the law works in these modern times, the case gets decided first, and then the rationale for the decision is manufacturer out of whole cloth and specious reasoning. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 8:23:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hobs98: Fuck it I'll let them keep all my previous NFA money. If I can walk home with a SAW tomorrow Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hobs98: Originally Posted By Pallas: Do I get my $200 back? Fuck it I'll let them keep all my previous NFA money. If I can walk home with a SAW tomorrow  Attached File |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 8:32:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gamma762: There's no reason it should have been taken apart to begin with. Correct. With the increased ammo cost and availability the gov is doing a good job in making lots of guns shoot less. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 8:32:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagoth-Ur: PkM? M84 Yugo / PKM |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 8:51:56 AM EDT
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The NFA isn't going anywhere. If for no other reason the money. $200 is nothing nowadays, most of us are and have paid it many times over playing their game. They've made millions off of us. I saw a video last night that there is 2.6millon registered suppressors in the US. That's 520mil in taxes. Granted, it's a government with a budget in the trillions. But, they aren't giving up that cash cow. They will speed the process so we are placated and keep taking our money.
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Posted: 5/4/2024 8:57:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thrasymachus: A guy with a felony for attempted murder and manslaughter tried to sell a PPSh-41 to the ATF, and is now appealing to the most liberal circuit in the US. So this is going to go nowhere. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thrasymachus: Originally Posted By uafgrad: cliff notes? A guy with a felony for attempted murder and manslaughter tried to sell a PPSh-41 to the ATF, and is now appealing to the most liberal circuit in the US. So this is going to go nowhere. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 9:15:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jambalaya: Why does it always have to be a shitbag? The government isn't going to let this shitbag have a win. The NY guy with the 3D printers is the kind of case we want. Law abiding in every other way, minority, has a job, not a shitbag. You can see the ATF confiscation lists posted each month and most the time there are no correlating prosecutions. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 9:17:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: jaqufrost]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagoth-Ur: I remember the screenshots from Hollis v Holder(later Lynch) from those NFA forum fuckers. "No everyone should have them!" "Muh investment!", they can eat Taco Bell. My experience with most NFA owners is they think machineguns should be legal and available. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 9:22:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Middlelength: Everyone who owns a registered toy is going to support this? Unlikely. At the same time, Glock switches everywhere these days... It does feel like you should be able to pay the $200 and add things to the registration list. I own a registered toy. I would buy 10 more at a sane cost when the NFA falls and be thrilled the value of my toy fell with it just because of what it means. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 9:22:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bandanabandit1: I’ve been saying this for years, the days of Hughes’ and the NFA ARE numbered…. I hope so. I have a small fortune tied up in registered MG equity. I STILL hope so. Freedom > Money |
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JPN
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Posted: 5/4/2024 9:35:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Middlelength: Everyone who owns a registered toy is going to support this? |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 9:38:16 AM EDT
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The complainant poisons the case?
NFA will never go away. |
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Posted: 5/4/2024 9:43:56 AM EDT
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Ideally no NFA, but opening the registry so I can drill that third hole is worth $200 to me.
I’m already on many lists. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2024 9:46:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hobs98: Fuck it I'll let them keep all my previous NFA money. If I can walk home with a SAW tomorrow I love it when you talk all romantic and shit. |
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