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Link Posted: 5/4/2024 4:39:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu:

I have a question. Ukraine has enough industry, engineering, and production capability to build things like Neptune & Hrim (haven't heard much of that lately). Why do they not produce ballistic missiles domestically? Sending a medium-long range ballistic missile to hit Russian oil/gas field facilities would send a marker of far more serious disruptions than small refinery strikes.

Okay, I have another question. Why does Ukraine not send teams to launch missiles at Russian LNG shipping facilities? They sent teams to hit Wagner in Sudan, which was purely a vanity project for appearance and accomplished absolutely nothing in the big picture. Why do they not send teams to hit strategic Russian targets, like the oil & gas export system? Why not hit Russia's oil tanker "ghost fleet," load the oil onto other tankers and sell it at cut rates in ports of convenience?
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Hitting a single spot in a refinery is more damaging than taking out a single well.
I keep hoping the "houthis" take care of russian shipping sooner or later.
Link Posted: 5/4/2024 4:57:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By lorazepam:
Hitting a single spot in a refinery is more damaging than taking out a single well.
I keep hoping the "houthis" take care of russian shipping sooner or later.
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I was thinking the distribution points rather than wells.

Anyway, the Houthi's are Iran's puppets, who are allies with Russia, so... mostly unlikely that they'll attack any Russian-flagged vessels. Not sure why Houthi's still have any launch sites/equipment left by now. They should all have been smoked by the USN. If we're not going to put them down, we should stay the heck away from them. Biden's entire team are morons. Very serious and dedicated people with very low intelligence and comprehension.
Link Posted: 5/4/2024 5:06:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By lorazepam:

Hitting a single spot in a refinery is more damaging than taking out a single well.
I keep hoping the "houthis" take care of russian shipping sooner or later.
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Originally Posted By lorazepam:
Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu:

I have a question. Ukraine has enough industry, engineering, and production capability to build things like Neptune & Hrim (haven't heard much of that lately). Why do they not produce ballistic missiles domestically? Sending a medium-long range ballistic missile to hit Russian oil/gas field facilities would send a marker of far more serious disruptions than small refinery strikes.

Okay, I have another question. Why does Ukraine not send teams to launch missiles at Russian LNG shipping facilities? They sent teams to hit Wagner in Sudan, which was purely a vanity project for appearance and accomplished absolutely nothing in the big picture. Why do they not send teams to hit strategic Russian targets, like the oil & gas export system? Why not hit Russia's oil tanker "ghost fleet," load the oil onto other tankers and sell it at cut rates in ports of convenience?

Hitting a single spot in a refinery is more damaging than taking out a single well.
I keep hoping the "houthis" take care of russian shipping sooner or later.


Houthis are semi-allies of Russia.
Link Posted: 5/4/2024 5:11:02 PM EDT
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1A33 fire control system of the T-64

Link Posted: 5/4/2024 5:11:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu:

I was thinking the distribution points rather than wells.

Anyway, the Houthi's are Iran's puppets, who are allies with Russia, so... mostly unlikely that they'll attack any Russian-flagged vessels. Not sure why Houthi's still have any launch sites/equipment left by now. They should all have been smoked by the USN. If we're not going to put them down, we should stay the heck away from them. Biden's entire team are morons. Very serious and dedicated people with very low intelligence and comprehension.
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When I say "houthis" I don't really mean houthis.
You are correct as far as the dos. Inbred ivy league morons are watching their sweet gig fall apart at the same time the ivy league midwits in charge of the ponzi scheme are watching it crash at the same time. It took a little over 100 years, but the liberals finally have us augering in. It's a shame that the information age forgot to bring along logic and reason.
Link Posted: 5/4/2024 5:13:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ServusVeritatis:
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not for nothing, but some "Houthis" might end up with bad aim. *nudge* *nudge*
Link Posted: 5/4/2024 5:37:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu:

I was thinking the distribution points rather than wells.

Anyway, the Houthi's are Iran's puppets, who are allies with Russia, so... mostly unlikely that they'll attack any Russian-flagged vessels. Not sure why Houthi's still have any launch sites/equipment left by now. They should all have been smoked by the USN. If we're not going to put them down, we should stay the heck away from them. Biden's entire team are morons. Very serious and dedicated people with very low intelligence and comprehension.
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu:
Originally Posted By lorazepam:
Hitting a single spot in a refinery is more damaging than taking out a single well.
I keep hoping the "houthis" take care of russian shipping sooner or later.

I was thinking the distribution points rather than wells.

Anyway, the Houthi's are Iran's puppets, who are allies with Russia, so... mostly unlikely that they'll attack any Russian-flagged vessels. Not sure why Houthi's still have any launch sites/equipment left by now. They should all have been smoked by the USN. If we're not going to put them down, we should stay the heck away from them. Biden's entire team are morons. Very serious and dedicated people with very low intelligence and comprehension.

Hitting the refining capability reduces Russia's income without necessarily taking the oil off the market (they have to sell as crude).
Link Posted: 5/4/2024 5:55:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By nomansland:
Hitting the refining capability reduces Russia's income without necessarily taking the oil off the market (they have to sell as crude).
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Hitting the refineries deprives Russia of fuel, and may lead them to a situation where they have to choose to fuel the army or civilians.

Taking the crude offline deprives the Russian government of income, which hurts them even more. Yes, the rest of the world would have to pay more for oil. IMO, hurting Russia enough to stop the war is worth it. For the record, Russian oil is about 12% of the global market, and Russia is the #2 world exporter of oil (behind Saudi Arabia), and makes up about 10% of global oil exports. https://www.investopedia.com/articles/company-insights/082316/worlds-top-10-oil-exporters.asp
Link Posted: 5/4/2024 6:00:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu:

I have a question. Ukraine has enough industry, engineering, and production capability to build things like Neptune & Hrim (haven't heard much of that lately). Why do they not produce ballistic missiles domestically? Sending a medium-long range ballistic missile to hit Russian oil/gas field facilities would send a marker of far more serious disruptions than small refinery strikes.
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Their industry has been on life support ever since the collapse of the USSR. And they never had the petrodollars to try and reconstitute it, unlike Russia. Most younger engineers pivoted to coding for various software outsourcing companies or left the country for good. The rise of the Israeli tech sector had a lot to do with the mass emigration of the 1990ths. And they were a part of Soviet defense-industrial complex, so there are gaps in the parts they can make. The take that they were the sole maker of all the Soviet good stuff is overly optimistic. Whatever remained of the industry survived doing R&D work for foreign customers who wanted localized defense production with no strings attached, and some export contracts. They may have the capacity to build one-off prototypes and some low rate production but nowhere the high volume manufacturing. And that was before the war. The Russians knew very well where the big factories and design bureaus were and targeted them early on.
Link Posted: 5/4/2024 6:02:34 PM EDT
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What a jip! That cannon looked like it was about to connect!
Link Posted: 5/4/2024 6:15:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Brok3n:

Even though armor losses are to be expected.. still hurts to see our equipment being used in a non doctrinal manner with usual results. Are we not supplying thermite grenades with these things?
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I'm assuming it got stuck in that ditch, couldnt traverse the cannon to fire so staying there and fighting till the end was impossible. Anyway, recovery seemed impossible so 100% of the crew was saved. I wish there was a big depot somewhere filled with replacement M1's but we sent 31 lol.

I still remember the arguments against the M1..."the maintenance and log train is beyond the UA"...as if the goal was to pass down the tanks 25 years from now like a heirloom or something. In this war tanks get consumed like boots and AK mags. The crews are most important. But instead the UA (and Russia) is doing trench assaults in boots. Fucking 31 tanks!!%$#@&?
Link Posted: 5/4/2024 6:22:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu:

Ukraine is not going to beat Russia in tactical combat operations. That should be an established fact. The west is not going to provide sufficient weapons, and Russia is now throwing more men in than Ukraine can kill. Russian collapse - sadly, Ukraine's only path to victory - cannot happen without hitting strategic targets and causing domestic disruption in Russia. Blowing up Russia's LNG exports, savaging the ghost fleet, hitting Russian oil & gas production facilities (on the extraction end, not just refineries), etc.
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I dont think Ukraine can long-range-bomb Russia into submission. Russia may actually nuke them if they could come close. They should be blowing up what they can but look at Germany, Japan, England in WWII...strategic bombing (like Russia will never see) only strengthened resolve. Maybe Russia is weaker internally but I dont think Russia will end up like Germany in WWI. They need to be stopped on the ground unless we are hoping some Gazprom exec takes out Putin.
Link Posted: 5/4/2024 7:17:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

I dont think Ukraine can long-range-bomb Russia into submission. Russia may actually nuke them if they could come close. They should be blowing up what they can but look at Germany, Japan, England in WWII...strategic bombing (like Russia will never see) only strengthened resolve. Maybe Russia is weaker internally but I dont think Russia will end up like Germany in WWI. They need to be stopped on the ground unless we are hoping some Gazprom exec takes out Putin.
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It's possible Russia is as weak internally as they were in 1917.
Link Posted: 5/4/2024 7:28:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

These are the old m1a1s with downgraded armor packages. If Russia can't make an equivalent of those by now they never will.
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Originally Posted By Brok3n:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


I still recommend Arat on turret top and rear with drone netting and spaced armor over engine compartment.

Even though armor losses are to be expected.. still hurts to see our equipment being used in a non doctrinal manner with usual results. Are we not supplying thermite grenades with these things?

These are the old m1a1s with downgraded armor packages. If Russia can't make an equivalent of those by now they never will.

I'm not worried about FME as much as handing Russia with more IO victories. Is what keeps the Russian people in this among other things.
Link Posted: 5/4/2024 7:56:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Brok3n:

I'm not worried about FME as much as handing Russia with more IO victories. Is what keeps the Russian people in this among other things.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Originally Posted By Brok3n:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:


I still recommend Arat on turret top and rear with drone netting and spaced armor over engine compartment.

Even though armor losses are to be expected.. still hurts to see our equipment being used in a non doctrinal manner with usual results. Are we not supplying thermite grenades with these things?

These are the old m1a1s with downgraded armor packages. If Russia can't make an equivalent of those by now they never will.

I'm not worried about FME as much as handing Russia with more IO victories. Is what keeps the Russian people in this among other things.


I see what you mean now, yeah I agree.
Link Posted: 5/4/2024 8:02:01 PM EDT
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A big thanks to @SGL_Shooter !!!

I received your care package of socks, med supplies, foot powder, and a Ukrainian flag.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/Screenshot_20240503-083648_2_png-3204242.JPG

The guys are already grabbing what they need, and we will get this flag signed and sent back to you. Thank you so much!
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@Easterner

Link Posted: 5/4/2024 8:10:17 PM EDT
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Yes.
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So is this the new Ukraine war thread?



Yes.

Yippee I can participate again.
Link Posted: 5/4/2024 8:11:33 PM EDT
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This morning.






A Russian aerial bomb probably fell on a house in Belgorod.

Authorities did not issue a missile alert before the explosion, indicating it is unlikely the house was hit by a Ukrainian missile.

Judging by the photos from the explosion site, several houses received serious damage, which is not typical for a UAV explosion.

Right during the emergency, Russian aviation carried out several strikes with controlled aerial bombs on the Kharkov region. Perhaps one of the bombs fell on a private house.

This may also be indicated by the column of smoke and dust that rose after the explosion.


https://t.me/belpepel/5468



Belgorod Governor
An explosion occurred in the city of Belgorod. I went to the scene of the incident.

According to preliminary data, five people were injured. A woman with a closed craniocerebral injury and a shrapnel wound of the cheek, a woman with a bruised wound in the temporal region, a shrapnel wound of the shoulder and a closed craniocerebral injury, a man with multiple shrapnel wounds of the head and face, a closed craniocerebral injury, a man with a shrapnel wound to the hips wounded hand, woman with closed head injury. All victims were taken to city hospital No. 2, where they received all the necessary medical care. Thank God, no one is in danger of life.

At the moment, damage has been detected in 30 private residential households, and 10 cars have also been damaged. Fire crews are extinguishing two fires. I spoke with the owner of the house who suffered the most serious damage. Miraculously, everyone survived. On Monday we will start taking measurements and begin restoration.

Emergency services are working on the ground. The door-to-door tour continues.


https://t.me/vvgladkov/6625

Link Posted: 5/4/2024 8:16:06 PM EDT
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Archival episodes of a small arms battle near the village of Krynky on the left bank of the Kherson region, through the eyes of our marines
https://twitter.com/small10space/status/1786736143544799715
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A major fire is being extinguished in Crimea

In the village of Beloglinka, a one-story warehouse covering 1,000 square meters is on fire. In total, 60 Emergencies Ministry specialists and 14 pieces of equipment are working on site.

Source: tg channel truekpru // Photo: Ministry of Emergency Situations of Russia








In Crimea, a fire was localized in a warehouse
The Ministry of Emergency Situations reported the localization of a fire in a warehouse in Crimea


MOSCOW, May 4 - RIA Novosti
. A fire with an area of 1 thousand square meters in a one-story warehouse in the Crimea has been localized, the Russian Emergencies Ministry reports in Telegram channel.
Earlier it was reported that rescuers were extinguishing a large fire in Crimea, 60 specialists and 14 pieces of equipment worked on the spot.

"In Crimea, firefighters of the Russian Emergencies Ministry localized the fire on 1,000 square meters," the report says.

According to the Ministry of Emergency Situations, 72 specialists and 21 pieces of equipment are working on the spot.

https://ria.ru/20240504/pozhar-1943883789.html

Link Posted: 5/4/2024 8:35:23 PM EDT
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F16?
Link Posted: 5/4/2024 8:46:07 PM EDT
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Is Russia running low on Industrial explosive chemicals such as Nitroglycerin?

Today May 3rd 2024 The Russian government has introduced a ban on sugar exports until August 31st 2024.

Sugar alcohol based explosive chemicals can be used to manufacture a variety of chemicals that can be used to make artillery propellant, high explosives and detonators some examples of chemicals that can be made from sugar alcohol based explosive chemicals include
Nitroglycerin
XPN
PETN
ETN
EGDN
Mannitol hexanitrate

This export ban was reported today by the press service of the Russian Cabinet of Ministers.

“Russia is introducing a temporary ban on the export of cane or beet sugar and chemically pure sucrose. The resolution on this has been signed. The restriction will be in effect until August 31, 2024. The decision is aimed at maintaining the stability of the domestic food market, The Ministry of Agriculture has been entrusted with distributing these volumes among participants in foreign trade activities,”
Russian Officials noted.

They added that sugar can be exported to four EAEU countries in certain volumes:
🇦🇲-28 thousand tons
🇧🇾-5 thousand tons,
🇰🇿-120 thousand tons  
🇰🇬- 28.5 thousand tons.

It was previously reported discussions within the Ministry of Agriculture started in late February and draft was proposed March 12th. The need for these measures was justified by "concern about the intensification of sugar supplies abroad." "In this situation, it is important that there are sufficient rolling stocks by the new season," one of the sources said.

As reported in the final review of the Institute of Agricultural Market Studies (ICAR) on the sugar market for 2023, exports from Russia have noticeably increases since the autumn of 2023 and in November reached 83 thousand tons exported by rail alone. Russia has returned to almost all its traditional markets being
🇰🇿🇧🇾🇰🇬🇲🇩🇦🇲🇺🇿🇦🇿🇹🇲🇹🇯🇷🇸🇰🇵🇹🇷🇲🇳🇦🇫

Since November 2023 the supply of raw beet sugar by grain hoppers to Uzbekistan and Azerbaijan has begun.

According to ICAR, from August 2023 to mid-February of this year, sugar exports from Russia by rail amounted to 442,000 tons compared to 164.3 thousand tons for the same period last season.

The main volumes of exports go by rail. In addition, sugar is exported by road and very little by sea.

According to the Eurasian Sugar Association, 6.6 million tons of beet sugar have been produced in Russia since the beginning of the current season (from August 1, 2023), which is an increase of 0.7 million tons more than 2022.







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That could be a really big boom with two more drones. Hit storage vessel cause large leak and hit again moments
later and hopefully the NH3/air ratio would be boomable.
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Link Posted: 5/4/2024 9:12:33 PM EDT
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It's possible Russia is as weak internally as they were in 1917.
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Don't bet on it. The overwhelming majority of the Russian people support the war and very few of the citizens in St. Petersburg or Moscow are suffering the consequences. What Siberia thinks or suffers is of no consequence.

Russian media has been laying the foundation for this fascist campaign for well over a decade. That's a long time for independent thinkers to resist.
Link Posted: 5/4/2024 9:28:40 PM EDT
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Don't bet on it. The overwhelming majority of the Russian people support the war and very few of the citizens in St. Petersburg or Moscow are suffering the consequences. What Siberia thinks or suffers is of no consequence.

Russian media has been laying the foundation for this fascist campaign for well over a decade. That's a long time for independent thinkers to resist.
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I'm not betting on it, but in July 2018 the German Army looked very strong and in the summer of 1916 the Russian Army was winning battles.
Link Posted: 5/4/2024 9:37:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By borderpatrol:

Don't bet on it. The overwhelming majority of the Russian people support the war and very few of the citizens in St. Petersburg or Moscow are suffering the consequences. What Siberia thinks or suffers is of no consequence.

Russian media has been laying the foundation for this fascist campaign for well over a decade. That's a long time for independent thinkers to resist.
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Originally Posted By GunLvrPHD:
It's possible Russia is as weak internally as they were in 1917.

Don't bet on it. The overwhelming majority of the Russian people support the war and very few of the citizens in St. Petersburg or Moscow are suffering the consequences. What Siberia thinks or suffers is of no consequence.

Russian media has been laying the foundation for this fascist campaign for well over a decade. That's a long time for independent thinkers to resist.

Putin has learned a lot of lessons from history, 1917 and other revolutions/successions. He's managed to create a system that blocks both meaningful public dissent and rival political opponents within his own network. As a specimen of authoritarianism it's pretty impressive; he really is a modern Hitler or Stalin.

Also recall the 1420 videos from the six months leading up to Russia's elections. Support for Putin was consistently extremely high, both in urban and rural populations. Among the young, people who know they can never have political power just profess to be apolitical.

Maybe in late 2022 when the initial efforts were a disaster, Russia may have been more brittle. Since the war has solidified and Russia is grinding away, there is no practical reason why Putin or the war should face serious domestic opposition. The only thing that could change that would be serious economic disruption, like cutting off Russia's oil & gas income.
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A good start!!
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Last name is distinctly Ukrainian, although people moved around so much inside the Soviet Union that it doesn't mean much.
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Nine minutes of Brad footage.

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F16?
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F16?

I mean, I wouldn't think so, but...






Side story-
An AI-controlled fighter jet took the Air Force leader for a historic ride. What that means for war

By TARA COPP
ASSOCIATED PRESS • May 3, 2024


EDWARDS AIR FORCE BASE, Calif.
— With the midday sun blazing, an experimental orange and white F-16 fighter jet launched with a familiar roar that is a hallmark of U.S. airpower. But the aerial combat that followed was unlike any other: This F-16 was controlled by artificial intelligence, not a human pilot. And riding in the front seat was Air Force Secretary Frank Kendall.

AI marks one of the biggest advances in military aviation since the introduction of stealth in the early 1990s, and the Air Force has aggressively leaned in. Even though the technology is not fully developed, the service is planning for an AI-enabled fleet of more than 1,000 unmanned warplanes, the first of them operating by 2028.

It was fitting that the dogfight took place at Edwards Air Force Base, a vast desert facility where Chuck Yeager broke the speed of sound and the military has incubated its most secret aerospace advances. Inside classified simulators and buildings with layers of shielding against surveillance, a new test-pilot generation is training AI agents to fly in war. Kendall traveled here to see AI fly in real time and make a public statement of confidence in its future role in air combat.

“It’s a security risk not to have it. At this point, we have to have it,” Kendall said in an interview with The Associated Press after he landed. The AP, along with NBC, was granted permission to witness the secret flight on the condition that it would not be reported until it was complete because of operational security concerns.

The AI-controlled F-16, called Vista, flew Kendall in lightning-fast maneuvers at more than 550 miles an hour that put pressure on his body at five times the force of gravity. It went nearly nose to nose with a second human-piloted F-16 as both aircraft raced within 1,000 feet of each other, twisting and looping to try force their opponent into vulnerable positions.

At the end of the hourlong flight, Kendall climbed out of the cockpit grinning. He said he’d seen enough during his flight that he’d trust this still-learning AI with the ability to decide whether or not to launch weapons in war.

There’s a lot of opposition to that idea. Arms control experts and humanitarian groups are deeply concerned that AI one day might be able to autonomously drop bombs that kill people without further human consultation, and they are seeking greater restrictions on its use.

“There are widespread and serious concerns about ceding life-and-death decisions to sensors and software,” the International Committee of the Red Cross has warned. Autonomous weapons “are an immediate cause of concern and demand an urgent, international political response.”

Kendall said there will always be human oversight in the system when weapons are used.

The military’s shift to AI-enabled planes is driven by security, cost and strategic capability. If the U.S. and China should end up in conflict, for example, today’s Air Force fleet of expensive, manned fighters will be vulnerable because of gains on both sides in electronic warfare, space and air defense systems. China’s air force is on pace to outnumber the U.S. and it is also amassing a fleet of flying unmanned weapons.

Future war scenarios envision swarms of American unmanned aircraft providing an advance attack on enemy defenses to give the U.S. the ability to penetrate an airspace without high risk to pilot lives. But the shift is also driven by money. The Air Force is still hampered by production delays and cost overruns in the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, which will cost an estimated of $1.7 trillion.

Smaller and cheaper AI-controlled unmanned jets are the way ahead, Kendall said.

Vista’s military operators say no other country in the world has an AI jet like it, where the software first learns on millions of data points in a simulator, then tests its conclusions during actual flights. That real-world performance data is then put back into the simulator where the AI then processes it to learn more.

China has AI, but there’s no indication it has found a way to run tests outside a simulator. And, like a junior officer first learning tactics, some lessons can only be learned in the air, Vista’s test pilots said.

Until you actually fly, “it’s all guesswork,” chief test pilot Bill Gray said. “And the longer it takes you to figure that out, the longer it takes before you have useful systems.”

Vista flew its first AI-controlled dogfight in September 2023, and there have only been about two dozen similar flights since. But the programs are learning so quickly from each engagement that some AI versions getting tested on Vista are already beating human pilots in air-to-air combat.

The pilots at this base are aware that in some respects, they may be training their replacements or shaping a future construct where fewer of them are needed.

But they also say they would not want to be up in the sky against an adversary that has AI-controlled aircraft if the U.S. does not also have its own fleet.

“We have to keep running. And we have to run fast,” Kendall said.

https://www.stripes.com/branches/air_force/2024-05-03/ai-controlled-fighter-jet-air-force-secretary-13742736.html

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I call BS on that last post.

Georgia background info:
Mikhail Saakashvili was elected President in 2004 after breaking from the incumbent's party (Shevardnadze, whom you might recall from the Soviet era). Saakashvili set himself up as an opposition reform candidate and his party did very well. He was reelected for a second term that saw the invasion of South Ossetia & Abkhazia by Russia. (By the way, those provinces were never solidly Georgian. Ossetia was lumped into Georgia under the USSR, but South Ossetia first declared independence from Georgia SSR in 1990.) Saakashvili held his office after the Russian attack in 2008, serving until 2012. His leadership was irreparably damaged by some murders and beatings of opposition political people that he was credibly linked to. He fled Georgia on leaving office, and was appointed Governor of Odessa. Dual-citizenship laws saw him stripped of Georgian citizenship. He then left Ukraine as well, and had some time in the US and I think Belgium. He was tried in absentia and convicted, was captured on his return to Georgia & jailed.

So Russia never installed a "puppet government" after the invasion, Georgia has suffered its own internal political issues, as parties wax and wane. Certainly, Russia interferes, but I haven't seen anything to say that the current leaders are puppets the way Yanukovich was in Ukraine. It's actually an unfair accusation, since the Georgian government has provided some aid to Ukraine and hosted Ukrainian refugees. They haven't joined sanctions against Russia, but the Russian army is literally on their doorstep.

The Georgian Dream party was established literally to be opposition to Saakashvili, and has had its own leadership issues in the last few years. Some say the party has changed is positions on some issues, and several members have resigned, leaving them in a coalition government. Georgian Dream was the strong plurality vote winner in the most recent elections, and won 63 of 64 mayoral seats in addition to their bloc in Parliament.

As for the "Russian law," the proposal is to call any group receiving more than 20% of is funding from outside the country as a "foreign agent." That's not exactly as harsh as the Russian "foreign agent" designation, where anybody that makes public speeches against Putin can get the label. It is a bad sign for a country that is almost certainly a future target for Russian annexation. In that sense, the spirit of that tweet is on point, even if the facts are wrong.
Link Posted: 5/4/2024 11:52:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:
Nine minutes of Brad footage.

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Gee, it would have been great to have those in 2022.
Link Posted: 5/4/2024 11:58:31 PM EDT
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In the name of Allah, the most gracious, the most merciful

The Yemeni Armed Forces observe the developments of the battle in the Gaza Strip, of the ongoing Israeli-American aggression and serious preparations to carry out an aggressive military operation against the Rafah area, as well as the deal presented to the resistance in which the enemy wants to extract the cabtives card without a permanent ceasefire.

Accordingly;
In implementation of the instructions of Commander Sayyed Abdul-Malik Badr al-Din al-Houthi, may Allah protect him, and in triumphing for the oppression of the Palestinian people, and in response to the calls of the Palestinian people, and with the intransigence of the Israeli and American enemy, the Yemeni armed forces announce the beginning of the implementation of the fourth stage of escalation, as follows:

First, the targeting of all ships that violate the ban decision of Israeli navigation and that heading to the ports of occupied Palestine from the Mediterranean Sea in any reachable area within our ample zone.

Second, implementation of this comes into effect immediately and from the moment this statement is announced.

Third: If the Israeli enemy intends to launch an aggressive military operation against Rafah, the Yemeni Armed forces will impose comprehensive sanctions on all ships and companies that are related to supplying and entering the occupied Palestinian ports of any nationality and will prevent all ships of these companies from passing through the armed forces’ operation zone, regardless of their destination.

The Yemeni armed forces, based on the support of the beloved Yemeni people and all the free people of the nation, will not hesitate to prepare for broader and stronger stages of escalation until the aggression is stopped and the siege on the Palestinian people in the Gaza Strip is lifted.

Sanaa,
Shawwal 24, 1445 AH
May 3, 2024 AD

Issued by the Yemeni Armed Forces


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Minister of information: one million Yemeni fighters are ready for battle And we will target those who trade with the occupation: the eye of truth

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- Watch the Minister of Information in the Sana'A government, Dhaifallah Al-Shami, confirm that Yemen has the capabilities that allow it to stand ..., Minister of information: one million Yemeni fighters are ready for battle. We will target those who trade with the occupation, and now we will publish the details to you as received, so follow us.

Details of the Minister of information one million Yemeni fighters.


The Minister of Information in the Sana'a government, Dhaifallah al-Shami, confirms that Yemen has the capabilities that allow it to stand on the front line in order to support the Palestinian people.
The Minister of Information in the Sana'a government, Dhaifallah al-Shami, said on Saturday that the operations initiated by the Yemeni armed forces "will not end unless the Israeli war on the Gaza Strip stops."

Al-Shami said, in an interview with Al-Mayadeen, that operations in the Mediterranean "will begin," noting that there is "careful monitoring, and that the coming days will witness the announcement of the first operations."

"Operations in the Mediterranean will begin and there is careful monitoring and the coming days will see the announcement of operations. "Every weapon used by the enemy is rapidly developing a weapon that overcomes it."

Minister of Information in the National Salvation Government Dhaifallah Al-Shami for #الميادين @DhaifAlShami650 pic.twitter.com/bIAHnVl9ZY

— Al-Mayadeen TV (@AlMayadeenNews) May 4, 2024

He stressed that any party in the world, which has a link to the Israeli occupation, "will be affected by its trade, and will be a target for the Yemeni armed forces."

Yemen has the capabilities to stand on the frontline in support of the Palestinian people, al-Shami said, adding that the number of fighters ready to fight the battle is likely to reach "one million soon".

"We have the capabilities to stand on the front line to support #فلسطين. The number of fighters ready to fight the battle could reach one million soon."

Minister of Information in the National Salvation Government Dhaifallah Al-Shami to #الميادين@DhaifAlShami650 pic.twitter.com/Ryvz0gSpmG

— Al-Mayadeen TV (@AlMayadeenNews) May 4, 2024

The Minister of Information in the Sana'a government confirmed that the armed forces will closely monitor the credibility of the occupation in implementing the cessation of aggression, if an agreement is reached, describing it as "deceitful."

He stressed that Yemenis do not have any special demands, regarding the support of resistance in occupied Palestine.

"Any party in the world that has an association with the Zionist entity will have its trade affected and will be a target for our armed forces."

Minister of Information in the National Salvation Government Dhaifallah Al-Shami to #الميادين@DhaifAlShami650 pic.twitter.com/g99QLpDGKr

— Al-Mayadeen TV (@AlMayadeenNews) May 4, 2024

In addition, al-Shami pointed out that the course of Gaza support operations "has a separate track from the track of special Yemeni issues".

"All temptations were offered to the people and the leadership in #اليمن in exchange for stopping the attribution to #فلسطين, but we don't see any value for that."

Minister of Information in the National Salvation Government Dhaifallah Al-Shami for #الميادين@DhaifAlShami650 pic.twitter.com/aKQ0vanPJT

— Al-Mayadeen TV (@AlMayadeenNews) May 4, 2024

He pointed out that many temptations were put forward in exchange for stopping support for the Palestinian cause, but the Yemeni people and their leadership "will not give up their position on Palestine, until victory is achieved."

This statement comes after the spokesman for the Yemeni armed forces, Brigadier General Yahya Saree, announced the start of the implementation of the fourth phase of the escalation, in response to the continued Israeli aggression on the Gaza Strip.

Saree explained that this phase includes targeting all ships that violate the Israeli navigation ban and those heading to the ports of occupied Palestine from the Mediterranean, in any area affected by the Yemeni armed forces.

He stressed that Sana'a will impose sanctions on all ships of companies related to the supply and entry into the occupied Palestinian ports, of any nationality, in the event that the Israeli occupation launches an aggressive military operation against Rafah.

https://m.sa24.co/article/770586727/%D9%88%D8%B2%D9%8A%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%B9%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85-%D9%85%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%88%D9%86-%D9%85%D9%82%D8%A7%D8%AA%D9%84-%D9%8A%D9%85%D9%86%D9%8A-%D8%AC%D8%A7%D9%87%D8%B2%D9%88%D9%86-%D9%84%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%B1%D9%83%D8%A9-%D9%88%D8%B3%D9%86%D8%B3%D8%AA%D9%87%D8%AF%D9%81-%D9%85%D9%86-%D9%8A%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%AC%D8%B1-%D9%85%D8%B9.html
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For once I hope this huckster is successful.


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I call BS on that last post.

Georgia background info:
Mikhail Saakashvili was elected President in 2004 after breaking from the incumbent's party (Shevardnadze, whom you might recall from the Soviet era). Saakashvili set himself up as an opposition reform candidate and his party did very well. He was reelected for a second term that saw the invasion of South Ossetia & Abkhazia by Russia. (By the way, those provinces were never solidly Georgian. Ossetia was lumped into Georgia under the USSR, but South Ossetia first declared independence from Georgia SSR in 1990.) Saakashvili held his office after the Russian attack in 2008, serving until 2012. His leadership was irreparably damaged by some murders and beatings of opposition political people that he was credibly linked to. He fled Georgia on leaving office, and was appointed Governor of Odessa. Dual-citizenship laws saw him stripped of Georgian citizenship. He then left Ukraine as well, and had some time in the US and I think Belgium. He was tried in absentia and convicted, was captured on his return to Georgia & jailed.

So Russia never installed a "puppet government" after the invasion, Georgia has suffered its own internal political issues, as parties wax and wane. Certainly, Russia interferes, but I haven't seen anything to say that the current leaders are puppets the way Yanukovich was in Ukraine. It's actually an unfair accusation, since the Georgian government has provided some aid to Ukraine and hosted Ukrainian refugees. They haven't joined sanctions against Russia, but the Russian army is literally on their doorstep.

The Georgian Dream party was established literally to be opposition to Saakashvili, and has had its own leadership issues in the last few years. Some say the party has changed is positions on some issues, and several members have resigned, leaving them in a coalition government.

As for the "Russian law," the proposal is to call any group receiving more than 20% of is funding from outside the country as a "foreign agent." That's not exactly as harsh as the Russian "foreign agent" designation, where anybody that makes public speeches against Putin can get the label. It is a bad sign for a country that is almost certainly a future target for Russian annexation. In that sense, the spirit of that tweet is on point, even if the facts are wrong.
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That's probably exactly right.

That image is frequently posted to represent the Russian invasion, and I want to show where I get things from, but sometimes the accompanying post is...a bit off.

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Swedish Archer kills Russian Msta-S 152mm.  Confirmed destroyed by spotter.

Long-format video, Russian infantry squad assault on Ukrainian trench repelled by mortars and small-arms.  Firefight at 20 yards, one Russian probably hit.  Good video!

Ukrainian reporters trapped in a cellar with a Ukrainian unit when their small village is overrun by a Russian mechanized attack.  Finally all of them get out with coordination from nearby artillery, drone, and infantry units.  Hairy stuff.

If this doesn’t convince you to want to die in terror and horrible agony in Ukraine, I don’t know what will!

Feature on drones, UGVs, jamming, EW, and related topics.

Reported as a firefight with UA marines on the east bank of Kherson

UA source - Russian domestic gas shortages as a result of refinery bombings

Chinese company to build a higher-end military drone factory in Russia

Another UA source on reportedly decreased Russian oil exports.

Ukrainian MI-24 direct attacks on Hostomel at the start of the war.

RUAF drops a glide bomb on Belgorod, damaging a considerable number of houses.

Russian soldier’s appeal.  Says his commanders want to “null“ (execute) him and another soldier.  Says right now that four soldiers at his own position have been executed and that it’s common in his unit, they just bury the bodies in a marsh and call them missing in action.

Russian sheltering by knocked-out tank takes a direct drone drop.

Russian BMP-1 burning, probably due to a mine.

9-minute TERRA drone drop/kamikaze ops.  First video is yet another example of a Russian committing suicide after being wounded by drone.

Ukrainian night live fire training exercise

One-off MRAP prototype purchased by donors in the US to send to Ukraine

BBC article on the NK supply of missiles to Russia

Odesa citizens thanking soldiers on Orthodox Easter

Star Wars Day!

Russian Msta-S destroyed by kamikaze, spotter confirmed.  Title says they’d been hunting for it for a week.

Kamikaze hits BTR with infantry on top

Thermal kamikaze hits and burns out Russian BTR

Thermal drone direct-hits two Russians with two accurate munitions drops.  Both likely killed.

Series of kamikaze hits on Russian troops and vehicles.  A few repeats.  All HARD hits.

Series of drone drops on Russian troops.  Some brutal.  NSFW.

Double drop direct hits a Russian playing dead.  NSFW.

Two kamikazes hit a Russian in the Krynky area.  Might be old.

Drone drops flush out and likely kill a Russian hiding next to destroyed armor.

Series of kamikaze strikes and drops on Russian vehicles and positions.

Russian manages to hit a kamikaze with his backpack, results unknown.

Kamikaze kills a Russian on a quadrunner

Series of NV kamikaze attacks on Russian transport.  Based on the reactions of some vehicles, it seems that they may be using at least Gen 1 NV goggles or COTS IR cameras which might be able to see active IR from the drones.

Drone drop wounds a Russian waiting beside another wounded Russian

Kamikaze seriously wounds a lone Russian

Series of accurate grenade drops on Russians in trench.  Possibly Kremmina.
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Good stuff.
Surrounded by the Russians. ????Paratroopers & United24 Journalists under ????Assault. Kayfariki & BSDG



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Last name is distinctly Ukrainian, although people moved around so much inside the Soviet Union that it doesn't mean much.
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I guess forcibly annexing people who don’t want to be apart of your empire is not going so well. Not everyone is as down with it
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Is this like a Ukraine vs Russia thread 2.0? Sure looks like it.
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Great video thank you
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