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Posted: 4/21/2024 1:20:07 PM EDT
What the hivemind think about this scope? Seems like a deal for the price
https://bkingsfirearms.com/shop/optics/leupold-mark-3hd-rifle-scope-3-9x40mm-30mm-p5-mildot-reticle/ |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 4/21/2024 3:14:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Just10mm]
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Depending on what you’re looking to do and if you like mil dot, not a bad choice. At 15.6 ounces paired with a light weight mount, a top mount or offset MRDS and it could be a slick set up, lighter than similar LPVO set-ups.
At that price I’m tempted…  Ymmv |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 3:23:21 PM EDT
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I have one on a 12.5" SBR and love it. Not bulky at all. They were on a big sale last year for like $399. Can't remember the website.
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TN, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 8:25:28 AM EDT
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Looks like their MarkAR cheapy line with a new joke name. I wouldn’t buy such a low end scope.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 8:50:11 AM EDT
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The 4-12× version is the exact same size and offers adjustable side parallax, a better reticle, and more magnification, all for just a half ounce more weight.
Keep in mind, none of these have illuminated reticles. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 11:31:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: s4s4u]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DevL: The 4-12× version is the exact same size and offers adjustable side parallax, a better reticle, and more magnification, all for just a half ounce more weight. Keep in mind, none of these have illuminated reticles. Does the 4-12 have adjustable parallax? I can do without illumination because I will piggyback a reflex, but I'd like side focus. D'oh, I see it in the top line. Reading is fun-duh-mental, ha. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:30:38 PM EDT
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TR20-2G does same with illumination and lighter weight at the cost of $200 more. Ymmv.
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IN, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:34:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By s4s4u: Does the 4-12 have adjustable parallax? I can do without illumination because I will piggyback a reflex, but I'd like side focus. If it's the magnification and parralax you want try the TR26 w/milldot, but you'll pay a little more in weight. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 1:26:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By s4s4u: Does the 4-12 have adjustable parallax? I can do without illumination because I will piggyback a reflex, but I'd like side focus. Yes it does. I have one. Just got back from the range to zero mine on a new rifle. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2024 2:03:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thebert: Yes it does. I have one. Just got back from the range to zero mine on a new rifle. TY. I see it in the post I quoted now, not sure how I messed it  |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 6:12:28 PM EDT
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I have the Mark AR version, haven't shot it yet but I like the clarity and reticle. It's replacing a Vortex 2-10 HD LH, the reticle on that was too fine for me. I think I can shoot the 3-9 with both eyes open on 3x.
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Posted: 4/23/2024 9:57:20 PM EDT
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I picked up one of these late last year trying to make my mk12 look more clone correct without being clone correct and it does that. The scope is decent and the reticle is bare bones mil.
That being said I’m upgrading to the mk4 2-10 because I have given up on having it be clonish looking. The scope will serve you well.  Attached File |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 4/23/2024 11:24:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DirtDivision: I picked up one of these late last year trying to make my mk12 look more clone correct without being clone correct and it does that. The scope is decent and the reticle is bare bones mil. That being said I’m upgrading to the mk4 2-10 because I have given up on having it be clonish looking. The scope will serve you well. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/245997/EAB615BF-FD67-4D4C-9DC1-CC39B3FCE4E2_jpe-3196273.JPG There comes a time when we all realize that the devil is in the ACTUAL details. Newbies, take note of the DOPE card 
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 4/27/2024 10:44:09 AM EDT
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I've never used one, but have read about them fairly extensively.
Between the 3x9 and 4x12, I think the one to get is the 3x9. Both are light and simple. Downsides are the eye relief changes substantially with magnification. IIRC, there is about a 1.5" variance in eye relief between low and high magnification. Also, elevation dialing window is comparably small to other offerings. Having said that, I think the 3x9 Firedot version with an MRDS would cover a lot of ground. |
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Posted: 4/27/2024 10:46:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rauchman: I've never used one, but have read about them fairly extensively. Between the 3x9 and 4x12, I think the one to get is the 3x9. Both are light and simple. Downsides are the eye relief changes substantially with magnification. IIRC, there is about a 1.5" variance in eye relief between low and high magnification. Also, elevation dialing window is comparably small to other offerings. Having said that, I think the 3x9 Firedot version with an MRDS would cover a lot of ground. That i was thinking too. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 4/27/2024 11:59:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: drewthebrave]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PistoleroJesse: TR20-2G does same with illumination and lighter weight at the cost of $200 more. Ymmv. That TR20 has a MIL-dot reticle, but MOA turrets. Deal-breaker. At least the Leupold has matching reticle & turret adjustments. I like my old VX-R Patrol 3-9x40 Firedot, though I'm not sure how the glass compares with this new VX3HD. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 4/27/2024 12:20:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drewthebrave: That TR20 has a MIL-dot reticle, but MOA turrets. Deal-breaker. Yea but they are capped, so you won't be dialing much. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 4/30/2024 7:53:05 AM EDT
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I have a VX5 HD 1-6 on my Grendel and I like it a lot. 300mm tube makes a big difference
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/2/2024 10:52:27 PM EDT
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I may be resurrecting this thread from the dead, but I do have 2 cents to add.
I have a 16” Sionics that has lived in many configurations from red dot, to LPVO, to medium power. Last year, I confidently decided to move away from a Viper PST II 1-6 LPVO to a medium power optic. I bought a modern SwampFox Warhawk 2-10 and a Leupold VX-R Patrol TMR Firedot 3-9x40. On paper, the SwampFox had all the great features I was looking for, but with a mount and MRDS it was a 2.5LB pig that destroyed usability. I kept the Leupold and have loved it. Similar to someone above, I call that setup my Mock-12, but it’s an incredible set-up. The MK3 HD looks like the modern predecessor and I wouldn’t hesitate to recommend it. Pair it with a piggyback dot and I really do have all the capability I need for the 5.56 round. GPR, lightweight, NV capable, and fairly precise out to 400M at 9x |
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Posted: 5/3/2024 8:49:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ct78: I may be resurrecting this thread from the dead, but I do have 2 cents to add. I have a 16” Sionics that has lived in many configurations from red dot, to LPVO, to medium power. Last year, I confidently decided to move away from a Viper PST II 1-6 LPVO to a medium power optic. I bought a modern SwampFox Warhawk 2-10 and a Leupold VX-R Patrol TMR Firedot 3-9x40. On paper, the SwampFox had all the great features I was looking for, but with a mount and MRDS it was a 2.5LB pig that destroyed usability. I kept the Leupold and have loved it. Similar to someone above, I call that setup my Mock-12, but it’s an incredible set-up. The MK3 HD looks like the modern predecessor and I wouldn’t hesitate to recommend it. Pair it with a piggyback dot and I really do have all the capability I need for the 5.56 round. GPR, lightweight, NV capable, and fairly precise out to 400M at 9x Don't dbe afraid to bring it back. This is the kind of info that's needed. Thanks. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 7:56:52 PM EDT
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I just got a credo 2-10x36. Mil reticle, illuminated but doesn’t have parallax.
Is it really that important on a AR at 500 yds and under? Not shooting groups, just plates.  Attached File |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2024 1:04:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doom1430: Don't be afraid to bring it back. This is the kind of info that's needed. Thanks. Glad to hear it! I’m thinking of any follow up info to pass on after using the 3-9X for the last year. I’ll say at 15 yards and out I do not struggle to use the 3x as a minimum magnification at all. 0 to 50 I find a piggyback more than usable (assuming you have a standard height mount and the piggyback isn’t sky high) I truly think the lightweight nature of these Leupold scopes at or under 15oz is truly underrated. It allows you to really make a setup more versatile because you can get away with adding an IR laser or bipod. With other scopes you already suffer a weight penalty because your optic weighs double (13-15oz vs 25-28oz) Like the other poster mentioned, I don’t find lack of parallax to be an issue. I’m not shooting at distances with a 9X maximum magnification where parallax will ruin my shot (in my experience thus far) I haven’t seen anything come to market for under $1K that makes me want to jump from this older SFP 3-9X platform yet. I think a good, sub 18oz 2-12x FFP would make that happen but they don’t seem to exist |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 1:47:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hydrostatic_cling: Looks like their MarkAR cheapy line with a new joke name. I wouldn’t buy such a low end scope. There were a couple MarkAR’s in my shooting groups and I hated them. The turrets will move if you look at them wrong, definitely not an optic for anything but bench use. Taking the rifle out of the case was a guaranteed way to have the turrets turn. |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 1:52:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tracker122: I have a VX5 HD 1-6 on my Grendel and I like it a lot. 300mm tube makes a big difference Assuming you mean a 30mm tube makes a difference, but a difference in what? Tube size allows more adjustment travel but not more light, that’s a myth. |
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