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Link Posted: 4/22/2024 10:16:37 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/22/2024 3:55:33 PM EDT
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God that rifle's beautiful!

P.S., just threw a mil/mil NF x24 in the EE if anyone is looking to complete a project.
Link Posted: 4/22/2024 8:14:34 PM EDT
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Took the MK12 Mod 0 to a DMR match this Sunday.  Did ok.  Despite the range not having longer distances they made up for it by making the targets super small.



Pittsburgh DMR Shoot 4-21-2024

Link Posted: 4/23/2024 3:52:43 PM EDT
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Just finished my MK12 Mod 1 build with a carbine length buffer tube and SOPMOD stock. Just wanted everyones recommendation on a buffer and buffer spring. From my online research, people are using a standard carbine buffer spring and either an H1 or H2 buffer. I dont want anything crazy. Right now I have a standard spring, Springco blue spring, H1 and H2 buffers. I havent had time to shoot it yet
Link Posted: 4/23/2024 8:33:40 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/24/2024 1:36:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By thatARMSguy:
Love it! Which sleeve did you chop, #36 or #38?
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#36 S-EX

Chopped it years before they became unobtanium...probably wouldn't have done that had I known :) But oh well. At the time, having a functional rear sight was of more value to me.

Edit: Then again, I feel like I have an ARMS rear sight sitting around that was unusable...perhaps due to a chop? So maybe it was a #38

Who knows, she's cut now!
Link Posted: 4/24/2024 8:58:38 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/27/2024 6:30:02 PM EDT
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Sup guys i got a HCS Mod 1 last year and was thinking of doing a Mod 0 i have 3 uppers I'm looking to build it on diemaco keyhole ,diemaco anchor harvey, And a Colt keyhole out these three uppers what one would you guys use.
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 6:57:08 PM EDT
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My vote would be diemaco anchor harvey.
Link Posted: 4/27/2024 6:58:43 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/27/2024 9:43:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Whiskey1Alpha] [#11]
Long shot but I'm looking for the 30mm Wilcox MRDS ring mount if anyone has a lead on one.

Would even settle for the repro Onyx made a while back.

Link Posted: 4/28/2024 12:46:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By cebiNg:
My vote would be diemaco anchor harvey.
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I concur!!  




Link Posted: 4/28/2024 3:50:02 PM EDT
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AWHAILYEAH dam man those are some nice builds
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 9:42:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ATHRASH:
AWHAILYEAH dam man those are some nice builds
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Thanks.......................................
Link Posted: 5/3/2024 10:36:40 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/4/2024 5:44:29 AM EDT
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Never knew B&T made MK12 cans. Interesting
Link Posted: 5/4/2024 9:02:29 AM EDT
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Never knew B&T made MK12 cans. Interesting
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Never knew B&T made MK12 cans. Interesting


What NATO military used MK12's? Be curious to see what their setups look(ed) like.
Link Posted: 5/4/2024 11:18:18 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Izhevsk54r:


What NATO military used MK12's? Be curious to see what their setups look(ed) like.
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Looks like the French according to this. https://www.guns.com/news/2024/01/31/b-and-t-new-suppressor-lineup

Will have to do some digging, would be interesting to see their setup.
Link Posted: 5/4/2024 12:01:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Yumago:


Looks like the French according to this. https://www.guns.com/news/2024/01/31/b-and-t-new-suppressor-lineup

Will have to do some digging, would be interesting to see their setup.
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Originally Posted By Izhevsk54r:


What NATO military used MK12's? Be curious to see what their setups look(ed) like.


Looks like the French according to this. https://www.guns.com/news/2024/01/31/b-and-t-new-suppressor-lineup

Will have to do some digging, would be interesting to see their setup.


Mk 12 Mod-F? Let the cloning begin!
Link Posted: 5/4/2024 8:42:13 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/4/2024 11:32:33 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/5/2024 1:23:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Yumago] [#22]
Just got back from the range, tested 9 different rounds through my Mk12 Mod 1. Barrel is HCS

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AAC 77gr OTM - 2725 fps
Federal 73gr Berger - 2685fps
Stand1 77gr TMK - 2856fps
S&B 77gr - 2781fps
IMI  Razorcore 77gr - 2739fps
Black Arc 77gr - 2696fps
Hornady Black 75gr - 2634fps
Black Hills 77gr - 2800fps
PMC X Tac 77gr - 2530 fps



As of now I might stock up on the AAC 77gr, for the price/performance ratio, but I want to try their SMK variant
Link Posted: 5/5/2024 2:11:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Yumago:
Just got back from the range, tested 9 different rounds through my Mk12 Mod 1. Barrel is HCS

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/493545/20240505_085915_jpg-3206145.JPG
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AAC 77gr OTM - 2725 fps
Federal 73gr Berger - 2685fps
Stand1 77gr TMK - 2856fps
S&B 77gr - 2781fps
IMI  Razorcore 77gr - 2739fps
Black Arc 77gr - 2696fps
Hornady Black 75gr - 2634fps
Black Hills 77gr - 2800fps
PMC X Tac 77gr - 2530 fps



As of now I might stock up on the AAC 77gr, for the price/performance ratio, but I want to try their SMK variant
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What was the max spread on the AAC?  That BH group
Link Posted: 5/5/2024 2:36:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By teamjawbox:


What was the max spread on the AAC?  That BH group
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1 - 2783.1
2 - 2720.8
3 - 2696.0
4 - 2740.8
5 - 2683.1
6 - 2730.8
7 - 2727.4
8 - 2712.3
9 - 2730.0
10 - 2725.7

Looks like SD was 26.8, max spread was 100
Link Posted: 5/5/2024 2:40:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Yumago:



1 - 2783.1
2 - 2720.8
3 - 2696.0
4 - 2740.8
5 - 2683.1
6 - 2730.8
7 - 2727.4
8 - 2712.3
9 - 2730.0
10 - 2725.7

Looks like SD was 26.8, max spread was 100
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Originally Posted By Yumago:
Originally Posted By teamjawbox:


What was the max spread on the AAC?  That BH group



1 - 2783.1
2 - 2720.8
3 - 2696.0
4 - 2740.8
5 - 2683.1
6 - 2730.8
7 - 2727.4
8 - 2712.3
9 - 2730.0
10 - 2725.7

Looks like SD was 26.8, max spread was 100


Yikes
Link Posted: 5/5/2024 4:05:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Yumago:



1 - 2783.1
2 - 2720.8
3 - 2696.0
4 - 2740.8
5 - 2683.1
6 - 2730.8
7 - 2727.4
8 - 2712.3
9 - 2730.0
10 - 2725.7

Looks like SD was 26.8, max spread was 100
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Originally Posted By Yumago:
Originally Posted By teamjawbox:


What was the max spread on the AAC?  That BH group



1 - 2783.1
2 - 2720.8
3 - 2696.0
4 - 2740.8
5 - 2683.1
6 - 2730.8
7 - 2727.4
8 - 2712.3
9 - 2730.0
10 - 2725.7

Looks like SD was 26.8, max spread was 100


Thanks!  Gonna have to pick up some of that to try for myself.  I agree on the AAC not being bad for the price, at all. I’ve shot a bit of the 77gr OTM and have been pleased all things considered.  Now I’m off to grab some of the BH.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 9:51:17 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Yumago:
Just got back from the range, tested 9 different rounds through my Mk12 Mod 1. Barrel is HCS

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/493545/20240505_085915_jpg-3206145.JPG
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AAC 77gr OTM - 2725 fps
Federal 73gr Berger - 2685fps
Stand1 77gr TMK - 2856fps
S&B 77gr - 2781fps
IMI  Razorcore 77gr - 2739fps
Black Arc 77gr - 2696fps
Hornady Black 75gr - 2634fps
Black Hills 77gr - 2800fps
PMC X Tac 77gr - 2530 fps



As of now I might stock up on the AAC 77gr, for the price/performance ratio, but I want to try their SMK variant
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No joke, the performance from that AAC 77gr load makes it look like you hit the lotto.

ETA: saw the velocity ES post. That's kinda sad, as 100fps will start to matter at 500yds and beyond depending on your targets.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 11:47:34 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By towerofpower94:


No joke, the performance from that AAC 77gr load makes it look like you hit the lotto.

ETA: saw the velocity ES post. That's kinda sad, as 100fps will start to matter at 500yds and beyond depending on your targets.
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Originally Posted By towerofpower94:
Originally Posted By Yumago:
Just got back from the range, tested 9 different rounds through my Mk12 Mod 1. Barrel is HCS

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/493545/20240505_085915_jpg-3206145.JPG
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AAC 77gr OTM - 2725 fps
Federal 73gr Berger - 2685fps
Stand1 77gr TMK - 2856fps
S&B 77gr - 2781fps
IMI  Razorcore 77gr - 2739fps
Black Arc 77gr - 2696fps
Hornady Black 75gr - 2634fps
Black Hills 77gr - 2800fps
PMC X Tac 77gr - 2530 fps



As of now I might stock up on the AAC 77gr, for the price/performance ratio, but I want to try their SMK variant


No joke, the performance from that AAC 77gr load makes it look like you hit the lotto.

ETA: saw the velocity ES post. That's kinda sad, as 100fps will start to matter at 500yds and beyond depending on your targets.


To me the whole point of a Mk12 shooting Mk262 is to hit stuff far away. Calling wind is hard enough, I don’t need to worry about vertical dispersion due to inconsistent velocity too. 100fps from a 10 shot string is bad.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 12:31:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mblades:


To me the whole point of a Mk12 shooting Mk262 is to hit stuff far away. Calling wind is hard enough, I don’t need to worry about vertical dispersion due to inconsistent velocity too. 100fps from a 10 shot string is bad.
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Originally Posted By Mblades:
Originally Posted By towerofpower94:
Originally Posted By Yumago:
Just got back from the range, tested 9 different rounds through my Mk12 Mod 1. Barrel is HCS

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/493545/20240505_085915_jpg-3206145.JPG
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/493545/20240505_090910_jpg-3206148.JPG
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AAC 77gr OTM - 2725 fps
Federal 73gr Berger - 2685fps
Stand1 77gr TMK - 2856fps
S&B 77gr - 2781fps
IMI  Razorcore 77gr - 2739fps
Black Arc 77gr - 2696fps
Hornady Black 75gr - 2634fps
Black Hills 77gr - 2800fps
PMC X Tac 77gr - 2530 fps



As of now I might stock up on the AAC 77gr, for the price/performance ratio, but I want to try their SMK variant


No joke, the performance from that AAC 77gr load makes it look like you hit the lotto.

ETA: saw the velocity ES post. That's kinda sad, as 100fps will start to matter at 500yds and beyond depending on your targets.


To me the whole point of a Mk12 shooting Mk262 is to hit stuff far away. Calling wind is hard enough, I don’t need to worry about vertical dispersion due to inconsistent velocity too. 100fps from a 10 shot string is bad.


Agreed.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:20:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Deadsquiggles] [#30]
Well this is probably the most expensive thing I’ve ever spray painted.

I’ll probably look at more when I’m more sober tomorrow. It might need some tan dusted over it.
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Link Posted: 5/6/2024 8:58:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By towerofpower94:


Agreed.
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Originally Posted By towerofpower94:
Originally Posted By Mblades:
Originally Posted By towerofpower94:
Originally Posted By Yumago:
Just got back from the range, tested 9 different rounds through my Mk12 Mod 1. Barrel is HCS

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/493545/20240505_085915_jpg-3206145.JPG
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/493545/20240505_090910_jpg-3206148.JPG
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/493545/20240505_100556_jpg-3206149.JPG
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AAC 77gr OTM - 2725 fps
Federal 73gr Berger - 2685fps
Stand1 77gr TMK - 2856fps
S&B 77gr - 2781fps
IMI  Razorcore 77gr - 2739fps
Black Arc 77gr - 2696fps
Hornady Black 75gr - 2634fps
Black Hills 77gr - 2800fps
PMC X Tac 77gr - 2530 fps



As of now I might stock up on the AAC 77gr, for the price/performance ratio, but I want to try their SMK variant


No joke, the performance from that AAC 77gr load makes it look like you hit the lotto.

ETA: saw the velocity ES post. That's kinda sad, as 100fps will start to matter at 500yds and beyond depending on your targets.


To me the whole point of a Mk12 shooting Mk262 is to hit stuff far away. Calling wind is hard enough, I don’t need to worry about vertical dispersion due to inconsistent velocity too. 100fps from a 10 shot string is bad.


Agreed.

You guys make a big deal about a small issue. 100fps ES makes up 5" at 500yds (1MOA) vertical dispersion. On top of that, based on stats 2/3 or 66% of those rounds will fall within 2 SD which works out to less than half of that dramatic 5" vertical dispersion at 500yds.....2-1/2".....
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 9:09:30 PM EDT
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I still have 90 rounds of the AAC left. Going to take it out to 600 yards in a couple weeks. I'll be doing more chronoing on it.
Link Posted: 5/7/2024 7:21:46 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By smoothy8500:

You guys make a big deal about a small issue. 100fps ES makes up 5" at 500yds (1MOA) vertical dispersion. On top of that, based on stats 2/3 or 66% of those rounds will fall within 2 SD which works out to less than half of that dramatic 5" vertical dispersion at 500yds.....2-1/2".....
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Originally Posted By towerofpower94:
Originally Posted By Mblades:
Originally Posted By towerofpower94:
Originally Posted By Yumago:
Just got back from the range, tested 9 different rounds through my Mk12 Mod 1. Barrel is HCS

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/493545/20240505_085915_jpg-3206145.JPG
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/493545/20240505_090910_jpg-3206148.JPG
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AAC 77gr OTM - 2725 fps
Federal 73gr Berger - 2685fps
Stand1 77gr TMK - 2856fps
S&B 77gr - 2781fps
IMI  Razorcore 77gr - 2739fps
Black Arc 77gr - 2696fps
Hornady Black 75gr - 2634fps
Black Hills 77gr - 2800fps
PMC X Tac 77gr - 2530 fps



As of now I might stock up on the AAC 77gr, for the price/performance ratio, but I want to try their SMK variant


No joke, the performance from that AAC 77gr load makes it look like you hit the lotto.

ETA: saw the velocity ES post. That's kinda sad, as 100fps will start to matter at 500yds and beyond depending on your targets.


To me the whole point of a Mk12 shooting Mk262 is to hit stuff far away. Calling wind is hard enough, I don’t need to worry about vertical dispersion due to inconsistent velocity too. 100fps from a 10 shot string is bad.


Agreed.

You guys make a big deal about a small issue. 100fps ES makes up 5" at 500yds (1MOA) vertical dispersion. On top of that, based on stats 2/3 or 66% of those rounds will fall within 2 SD which works out to less than half of that dramatic 5" vertical dispersion at 500yds.....2-1/2".....


It's a variable I like to minimize, if possible. I've shot matches with 1.5-2MOA plates out to 700yds. Inches start to matter and anything you can (reasonably) do to minimize variables is a plus in my book. Plenty of match grade .223/5.56 has been made without triple digit extreme spreads. Up to the individual if the added cost, or time/attention to detail if handloading, is worth it for them.
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I still have 90 rounds of the AAC left. Going to take it out to 600 yards in a couple weeks. I'll be doing more chronoing on it.
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Are you able to shoot a waterline target at 600yds? Basically, just a 3-4' tall cardboard box that you can mount vertically to see how the rounds do elevation-wise at distance when holding the same point of aim.
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Are you able to shoot a waterline target at 600yds? Basically, just a 3-4' tall cardboard box that you can mount vertically to see how the rounds do elevation-wise at distance when holding the same point of aim.
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Sadly I can't. I'll be shooting at steel silhouette targets that other people will be shooting at also.
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Sadly I can't. I'll be shooting at steel silhouette targets that other people will be shooting at also.
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Are you able to shoot a waterline target at 600yds? Basically, just a 3-4' tall cardboard box that you can mount vertically to see how the rounds do elevation-wise at distance when holding the same point of aim.


Sadly I can't. I'll be shooting at steel silhouette targets that other people will be shooting at also.


All good. Have fun!
Link Posted: 5/7/2024 12:08:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By smoothy8500:

You guys make a big deal about a small issue. 100fps ES makes up 5" at 500yds (1MOA) vertical dispersion. On top of that, based on stats 2/3 or 66% of those rounds will fall within 2 SD which works out to less than half of that dramatic 5" vertical dispersion at 500yds.....2-1/2".....
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Originally Posted By towerofpower94:
Originally Posted By Mblades:
Originally Posted By towerofpower94:
Originally Posted By Yumago:
Just got back from the range, tested 9 different rounds through my Mk12 Mod 1. Barrel is HCS

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/493545/20240505_085915_jpg-3206145.JPG
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/493545/20240505_090910_jpg-3206148.JPG
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AAC 77gr OTM - 2725 fps
Federal 73gr Berger - 2685fps
Stand1 77gr TMK - 2856fps
S&B 77gr - 2781fps
IMI  Razorcore 77gr - 2739fps
Black Arc 77gr - 2696fps
Hornady Black 75gr - 2634fps
Black Hills 77gr - 2800fps
PMC X Tac 77gr - 2530 fps



As of now I might stock up on the AAC 77gr, for the price/performance ratio, but I want to try their SMK variant


No joke, the performance from that AAC 77gr load makes it look like you hit the lotto.

ETA: saw the velocity ES post. That's kinda sad, as 100fps will start to matter at 500yds and beyond depending on your targets.


To me the whole point of a Mk12 shooting Mk262 is to hit stuff far away. Calling wind is hard enough, I don’t need to worry about vertical dispersion due to inconsistent velocity too. 100fps from a 10 shot string is bad.


Agreed.

You guys make a big deal about a small issue. 100fps ES makes up 5" at 500yds (1MOA) vertical dispersion. On top of that, based on stats 2/3 or 66% of those rounds will fall within 2 SD which works out to less than half of that dramatic 5" vertical dispersion at 500yds.....2-1/2".....


Things start to fall off fast past 500, at 600 I get 8.74” and by 700 it’s 13”. Also this is from only a 10 shot sample, the ES is only going to get worse with a larger sample. I guess it’s possible he got the hottest and weakest round in the same box but that’s not realistic.

Another minor factor to consider is the difference in time of flight, I’m getting almost 2” more wind drift from the 2783 round vs 2883 at 600yds in a 10mph wind.
Link Posted: 5/7/2024 4:55:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By towerofpower94:


Plenty of match grade .223/5.56 has been made without triple-digit extreme spreads.
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Plenty of match grade .223/5.56 has been made without triple-digit extreme spreads.


Originally Posted By Mblades:


Things start to fall off fast past 500....

Another minor factor to consider is the difference in time of flight, I’m getting almost 2” more wind drift


Of course, both of you bring up good points that this isn't really "match grade" ammo which I agree......But the price point isn't there either. For the "average shooter" staying at or under 500yds, the SD/ES aren't necessarily a deal-breaker.

Edit: I forgot this is a perfect excuse for gratuitous gun-porn on the 600yd line.

Link Posted: 5/7/2024 6:14:11 PM EDT
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Of course, both of you bring up good points that this isn't really "match grade" ammo which I agree......But the price point isn't there either. For the "average shooter" staying at or under 500yds, the SD/ES aren't necessarily a deal-breaker.

Edit: I forgot this is a perfect excuse for gratuitous gun-porn on the 600yd line.
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Originally Posted By smoothy8500:
Originally Posted By towerofpower94:


Plenty of match grade .223/5.56 has been made without triple-digit extreme spreads.


Originally Posted By Mblades:


Things start to fall off fast past 500....

Another minor factor to consider is the difference in time of flight, I’m getting almost 2” more wind drift


Of course, both of you bring up good points that this isn't really "match grade" ammo which I agree......But the price point isn't there either. For the "average shooter" staying at or under 500yds, the SD/ES aren't necessarily a deal-breaker.

Edit: I forgot this is a perfect excuse for gratuitous gun-porn on the 600yd line.
https://i.imgur.com/2RzgMRem.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/tfuAfU7m.jpg


I had to go look up the price. I didn’t realize they had 2 different 77gr loads, $0.62/rd is pretty damn compelling for the scenario you give.

Pics from the gong range, targets out to a mile

Link Posted: 5/7/2024 8:21:59 PM EDT
[#40]
Shot with the AEM5 for the first time yesterday on the Mod1. Really nice and smooth. Definitely the quietest can I now own. Groups did tighten up a bit. But seems that my bolt picked up some velocity and is over running the bolt catch on the last round. Anyone else have that issue? This is an A1 stock/buffer set up so not quite sure where to go yet. With a carbine just pop in a an H2 and go.
Link Posted: 5/7/2024 11:13:03 PM EDT
[#41]
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Originally Posted By BravoSierra:
Shot with the AEM5 for the first time yesterday on the Mod1. Really nice and smooth. Definitely the quietest can I now own. Groups did tighten up a bit. But seems that my bolt picked up some velocity and is over running the bolt catch on the last round. Anyone else have that issue? This is an A1 stock/buffer set up so not quite sure where to go yet. With a carbine just pop in a an H2 and go.
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That’s exciting! I haven’t shot mine yet and probably won’t get the chance for a couple weeks. It’s the 30cal version on a 6.5 Grendel so being over-bored my expectations for sound suppression are tempered a bit. I’ve got a 308 barrel out getting contoured for a different rifle so I’ll be able to do the Pepsi challenge with 30cal bullets and other suppressors.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 7:21:26 AM EDT
[#42]
You could add a tungsten weight or two to the rifle buffer. Just pull it open and switch out a steel weight. That will help slow it down some.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 12:39:54 PM EDT
[#43]
Is it the same size as the carbine ones?
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 1:11:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BravoSierra:
Is it the same size as the carbine ones?
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The actual weights inside should be the same size. You'll just need to drive out the roll pin to bet the bumper off and swap out the metal weights.

I'm sure someone makes "H2" or "H3" rifle length buffers that are plug and play, but swapping out the weights from steel to tungsten would probably be cheaper and give you more flexibility to get the system tuned to your ammo and can.

ETA: something like this AR-15 Tungsten Recoil Buffer Weights 1.5 oz. (3-Pack)
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 2:12:30 PM EDT
[#45]
Thanks, was looking at those. Considered Slashes, but don't want to shell out that kind of coin if I don't need to. (Says the guy with a $4K rifle)
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 5:13:14 PM EDT
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Coyote Tan (er Brown?)  TAS-1 Sling Kits:

  I've assembled majority of the Coyote components we needed to make the TAS-1 kits.  I'm telling y'all straight up, I am not happy with the 1/2" nylon for the Rifle Stock and Front Handguard Adapters.    Nobody I can find on google weaves a 1/2" tubular nylon in Coyote Tan498 (USMC Coyote), Coyote Tan499 (US Army match for OCP Multicam) or Coyote Tan 500 (from the DCU MOLLE).    
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There is one other option I can find, a 3/8" Mil-W-17337, which is the same specification line I use for the UMMSS, the Rifle Stock, and Front Handguard Adapters.  This webbing is Solution-Dyed Mil-W-17337 spec in Coyote, that will be like used on the USMC FILBE Ruck, the dull, cotton canvas looking type weapon, like the top 2 examples in this pic, the 1/2" OD tubular nylon in the center and the two tan shade 1/2" nylon webbing I have used on these slings:
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 I used 2 shades of Coyote, a medium shade darker than the Tan500 for DCU, but lighter than the USMC Tan498 for one sling and a darker Coyote closer to USMC Tan498 and a better match for the 1" heavy duty flat nylon the sling itself is made from:
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Photos taken under indoor LED lighting against a USMC Tan498 1000d parachute kit type bag.

Approximate comparison, image this 3/4" wide Coyote Tan 498 Solution Dyed webbing as 3/8" wide, against the Mil-W-17337 1" Coyote nylon webbing used for the Rifle Stock, Front Handguard and UMMSS Adapters.
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The TAS-1 Sling itself is good to go.    Just the handguard and stock adapters are not 100% representative of the original construction.  I don't know what you guys want me to do.   Make kits with available type components then "if" 1/2" coyote tubular webbing turns up make up replacement handguard and stock adapters to buy?
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 5:17:40 PM EDT
[#47]
Another photo of the recent Coyote Tan TAS-1 Slings against a DCU MOLLE Rucksack and USMC Tan498 Para Kit-type Bag in direct sunlight:
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The lighter shade 2" elastic is Khaki Criminal shade, same shade Crye Precision uses for their Khaki LV-MBAV plate carriers.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 8:22:23 PM EDT
[#48]
I know she's not a perfect clone. Wasn't meant to be. But she's pretty close.

Centurion c4 quad rail
Centurion ss barrel
Centurion upper reviever
The new leupold mk4hd 2.5-10Attachment Attached File


What do yall think? What am I missing?Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 8:31:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Phiers:
I know she's not a perfect clone. Wasn't meant to be. But she's pretty close.

Centurion c4 quad rail
Centurion ss barrel
Centurion upper reviever
The new leupold mk4hd 2.5-10https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/554974/1000006222_jpg-3209127.JPG

What do yall think? What am I missing?https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/554974/1000006223_jpg-3209128.JPG
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Nothing about that is remotely close to a Mk12. Would serve better in a recce/spr thread.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 8:45:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:

Nothing about that is remotely close to a Mk12. Would serve better in a recce/spr thread.
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Copy. Ill tell Mr LeClair that his mk12 complete uppers are not actually mk 12 uppers because you said so

Harris bipod
A2 stock
Leupold mk4
Centurion barrel
Larue mount

Nothing close to a mk12. Got it.
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