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Lot of views, no comments so I'll leave a brief note. A Wingmaster is a better gun than this, an express is not. I'd buy this gun knowing it will last decades in normal use and is a superior gun in every respect to the cheap turk clones currently proliferating the cheap shotgun market.
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Trusting your life to the benevolence of an armed criminal is not a strategy, it is stupid!
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I had the "riot gun" version of these. I only shot it a little. It seemed stout enough. I think there's something different about the barrel from an 870. The band on the barrel that goes over the tube is in a different location maybe ?
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What’s the difference between pancakes and a Mini-14? Pancakes hit the spot.-dvanblaricom
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Originally Posted By Aimless: I had the "riot gun" version of these. I only shot it a little. It seemed stout enough. I think there's something different about the barrel from an 870. The band on the barrel that goes over the tube is in a different location maybe ? View Quote Yeah, this is because it's a 5 shot tube vs the 870 4 shot. Some people were making a spacer to use 870 barrels on them. |
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Trusting your life to the benevolence of an armed criminal is not a strategy, it is stupid!
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I had 2 of these. My opinion is that it was a huge improvement over a mid '90s express. I found nothing wrong with it. I thought it was comical that when these were at Wal-Mart the tag said Remington since that was the parent company, or owned by same parent company.
I could be wrong on this, but I believe the same gun is still being sold by a company called Blue Line Solutions. Classic firearms just sent out an email about it in the last week or so. It's heavy and feels like it's built like a tank. The weight seems to cut down on recoil. |
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I got one on clearance from Walmart, the home defense model. $130. Pretty nice shotgun for the money. Bored during covid19, I shot hundreds of rounds through mine no issues.
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A true Texan would never leave his friends behind!
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Originally Posted By Aimless: I had the "riot gun" version of these. I only shot it a little. It seemed stout enough. I think there's something different about the barrel from an 870. The band on the barrel that goes over the tube is in a different location maybe ? View Quote Yes, the barrel ring is further out from the breach. You can run 870 barrels on these & the "Hawk" shotguns if you make a shim between the Remington barrel ring & the barrel nut, think you can use a short length of PVC pipe. |
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Death to quislings.
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Hurricane Butterfly in Idaho had some security models w/o irons and with a Pic rail on the receiver.
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Death to quislings.
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Trusting your life to the benevolence of an armed criminal is not a strategy, it is stupid!
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I have a Pardner pump with the 18" barrel I got for $100 OTD from the LGS. I installed a Speedfeed forend, AT3 red dot, XS Big Dot sight, Wilson Combat Big Dome Safety and a Mesa Tactical sidesaddle. It shoots very well.
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My Pardner pump needed to be pumped very hard or it wouldn't pick up a shell from the magazine tube. Wound up selling it years ago because of this.
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Trusting your life to the benevolence of an armed criminal is not a strategy, it is stupid!
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Originally Posted By shotar: My observation is that they smooth out with use. View Quote I just did this on a Chinese 870 clone as it was a little rougher than I would like and it was essentially new. Can use a polishing or lapping compound on the action bars working the action to polish and some 400+ grit sandpaper on them and or polishing with a Dremel tool - clean and lube usually slicks it up quick. Remove and examine the left and right shell latches -and how the surfaces of the action bar hits them - and if it's rough or needs smoothing out. Some are rougher than others as it seems some edges are cleaned up better than others in the factory is my observation - but almost always a fixable situation. |
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Originally Posted By cherenkov: I just did this on a Chinese 870 clone as it was a little rougher than I would like and it was essentially new. Can use a polishing or lapping compound on the action bars working the action to polish and some 400+ grit sandpaper on them and or polishing with a Dremel tool - clean and lube usually slicks it up quick. Remove and examine the left and right shell latches -and how the surfaces of the action bar hits them - and if it's rough or needs smoothing out. Some are rougher than others as it seems some edges are cleaned up better than others in the factory is my observation - but almost always a fixable situation. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By cherenkov: Originally Posted By shotar: My observation is that they smooth out with use. I just did this on a Chinese 870 clone as it was a little rougher than I would like and it was essentially new. Can use a polishing or lapping compound on the action bars working the action to polish and some 400+ grit sandpaper on them and or polishing with a Dremel tool - clean and lube usually slicks it up quick. Remove and examine the left and right shell latches -and how the surfaces of the action bar hits them - and if it's rough or needs smoothing out. Some are rougher than others as it seems some edges are cleaned up better than others in the factory is my observation - but almost always a fixable situation. Or replace with Remington parts. |
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Death to quislings.
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Trusting your life to the benevolence of an armed criminal is not a strategy, it is stupid!
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