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Posted: 1/30/2024 1:45:25 AM EDT
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I’m a mechanic by trade and we get a yearly tool allowance. I’m limited on toolbox space being in a service truck and don’t tear up many tools so I don’t have a lot of real needs for work related tools this year. My goal over the next few years is to get a small welding/fabrication shop going in my garage and build up to something that could be a decent side hustle and retirement job. There’s a bit of grey area as to what we can use our allowance money on, but I’m sure I can make a case for most welding/fab related tools.
I’ve looked at Fireball squares, clamps, the Evolution miter saw, Milwaukee metal cutting circular saw, a couple of band saws, stationary belt grinder; even a gantry crane. I’m set on welders for now, and have a plasma cutter. I’d like to eventually get a cnc plasma table and a fixture table, but those are probably out of my current budget. I’m interested to hear your opinions, experience and recommendations for welding and fabrication tools and equipment. ETA: I’ve also looked at (and been spammed with tons of ads) a Vevor mag drill, which probably fills a hole in my set of tools. So I’d love to hear about your mag drill experiences as well. |
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A mill is probably the most useful tool one could own. There are lots of small tools like Mittotoya Calipers that make a huge difference. You’re on the right path. The time to own a tool is before you need it.
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The fireball squares are great I own 4 and use them all the time.
As for a saw I would recommend just biting the bullet and buying a slow speed cold saw. Very very little blade deflection which is great on angled cuts, probably the cleanest cut short of a mill and will last forever if you keep the ways clean and coolant topped off. Between those two and a good table I honestly don't think there is much else you would need to buy besides some nice F clamps. (since you said you got the other stuff covered) As far as priorities go, I would say the saw first, the clamps, then the squares. Squares are not necessary, just means you have to measure more often, which slows down work. And good clamps will just last your entire life and let you bend some stuff into place (like entire I-Beams) without worrying about breaking it. Way I see it is squares, clamps, and tables make up for any inaccuracies with fitment, but if you have a good tool to cut accurate fitment in the first place, you can get by with less correction. But that comes down to what kind of work you think you are going to get. This is what I would recommend for what im more used to with square tubing/square stock structures and frames. This changes if you plan on doing alot of smaller stuff. |
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You cannot have too many clamps. Forged > cast
A nice big vice is also a must. Yost are GTG. |
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9 lives - 9 pellets... Coincidence?
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I am very happy with the Fireball tools I have. I had a cold saw and ended up selling it. I hated dealing with the coolant. Now I have a dry cut chop saw and a mitering band saw. I use the band saw the most.
I have been tempted to get a metal cutting circular saw, but always find something else to buy. I do use a Skilsaw with a metal cutting blade, but not often. As mentioned, clamps. I have a bunch, but still buy them when I can. |
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Originally Posted By tinysd: I am very happy with the Fireball tools I have. I had a cold saw and ended up selling it. I hated dealing with the coolant. Now I have a dry cut chop saw and a mitering band saw. I use the band saw the most. I have been tempted to get a metal cutting circular saw, but always find something else to buy. I do use a Skilsaw with a metal cutting blade, but not often. As mentioned, clamps. I have a bunch, but still buy them when I can. View Quote I’ve got a Milwaukee abrasive chop saw, a porta-band on a Swag bandsaw table and a miter saw that I use with a Diablo metal blade occasionally. I use them all so rarely that I have thought about trying to consolidate them into fewer tools. I just hate getting rid of tools once I’ve gotten them. The Evolution saw is really tempting me. I’m not sure I can get a cold saw by purchasing approval though. I’ve got to be able to actually get it in my service truck to begin to justify it. |
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Im spoiled with the big heavy duty bessey F clamps.
Hard to go to anything else now that ive tasted the caviar... |
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Originally Posted By adamtheduke: I’ve got a Milwaukee abrasive chop saw, a porta-band on a Swag bandsaw table and a miter saw that I use with a Diablo metal blade occasionally. I use them all so rarely that I have thought about trying to consolidate them into fewer tools. I just hate getting rid of tools once I’ve gotten them. The Evolution saw is really tempting me. I’m not sure I can get a cold saw by purchasing approval though. I’ve got to be able to actually get it in my service truck to begin to justify it. View Quote Oh yeah didnt realize you were trying to fit everything in a service truck, you would need dedicated shop space for a cold saw. |
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Originally Posted By adamtheduke: I’m interested to hear everyone’s clamp preferences. View Quote These Vise Grip clamps get the most use Attached File I like the small ones too Attached File I also have Bessey and Stronghand F clamps. Also cheap Chinese C clamps. Attached File I’m a big fan of Kant-Twist too Attached File I have learned to not put clamps in a drawer or cabinet because I forget what I have. |
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I bought these Fireball clamps because I like the versatility of using any length of 1x2 or 2- 1x1 for the clamp.
Attached File Attached File Attached File Considering the majority of my work fits on that small table, I don’t have much use for them. I like that I can have a 20 foot clamp if needed. |
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Originally Posted By Jkees: Oh yeah didnt realize you were trying to fit everything in a service truck, you would need dedicated shop space for a cold saw. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Jkees: Originally Posted By adamtheduke: I’ve got a Milwaukee abrasive chop saw, a porta-band on a Swag bandsaw table and a miter saw that I use with a Diablo metal blade occasionally. I use them all so rarely that I have thought about trying to consolidate them into fewer tools. I just hate getting rid of tools once I’ve gotten them. The Evolution saw is really tempting me. I’m not sure I can get a cold saw by purchasing approval though. I’ve got to be able to actually get it in my service truck to begin to justify it. Oh yeah didnt realize you were trying to fit everything in a service truck, you would need dedicated shop space for a cold saw. Ok, so I should probably clarify this. Part of my tool allowance is that the tools we buy have to be necessary for our job duties. Being in a service truck limits me to things that are at least mobile. In all likelihood whatever I buy won’t be questioned and will just stay at home. But there’s a chance that I’ll have to justify what I buy and something that I can’t even get in my truck would be difficult. The shop I’m looking to outfit is at home. |
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I have a few decent name brand clamps, then I have a bunch of just cheap HF c-clamps, f clamps, whatever. I know they aren't the best, but you use the good clamps to get your piece initially set, then use the cheaper stuff to finish nailing it down.
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I don't check in here as much as I should, so forgive the zombie thread response...
But fireball squares are good stuff. I have the cast iron set. I bought them for a fab job making a machine base for a glass grinding machine. The customer was so impressed with how it turned out that they bought another one just to have a spare. Glass swarf is really hard on metal things so they had purchased several machine frames over the years. They said the ones I made with the fireball jigs were the most square and dimensionally correct ones they ever seen. Not cheap but worth it. |
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Originally Posted By xd341: I don't check in here as much as I should, so forgive the zombie thread response... But fireball squares are good stuff. I have the cast iron set. I bought them for a fab job making a machine base for a glass grinding machine. The customer was so impressed with how it turned out that they bought another one just to have a spare. Glass swarf is really hard on metal things so they had purchased several machine frames over the years. They said the ones I made with the fireball jigs were the most square and dimensionally correct ones they ever seen. Not cheap but worth it. View Quote I wound up spending the majority of my tool allowance on squares and clamps from Fireball. I’ve been impressed. |
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