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Posted: 3/19/2024 2:57:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D-der: A couple come to mind, How's the trigger Are the grip's too large for pocket carry compared to regular 642 grips Overall thoughts compared to average J frame Thanks! The trigger is heavy but smooth. It will only get better with some use. I'm not sure about the grips and pocket carry. I have ordered a pocket holster to try it out. I can take the grip panel off later to see how much grip material runs outside the back strap. But the grips obviously run outside the the back strap. The bottom of the butt:  Attached FileThe top of the backstrap:  Attached FileThe guys that partnered with Lipsey s on the specs and features know that pocket carry is a big bonus for J frames and one of them is big on mentioning he carries a lot that way. I can't see them going after grips that would frustrate that capability. The grips are really good. Everyone that has held mine starts off with some version of "oh that's nice" when the first hold it. Overall, really happy with mine and worth the MSRP. It feels like a refined J frame. If you are one of those guys that picks up a J frame and its like "hello old friend" and the gun just makes sense for what it is, than this is that gun coming into it's prime. I would love to see the airweight Bodyguard get the same treatment. Also at my age, a J Frame doesnt get any better than this:  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 7:27:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By floridacop: The trigger is heavy but smooth. It will only get better with some use. I'm not sure about the grips and pocket carry. I have ordered a pocket holster to try it out. I can take the grip panel off later to see how much grip material runs outside the back strap. But the grips obviously run outside the the back strap. The bottom of the butt: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/161929/20240319_133504_jpg-3163662.JPG The top of the backstrap: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/161929/20240319_133642_jpg-3163663.JPG The guys that partnered with Lipsey s on the specs and features know that pocket carry is a big bonus for J frames and one of them is big on mentioning he carries a lot that way. I can't see them going after grips that would frustrate that capability. The grips are really good. Everyone that has held mine starts off with some version of "oh that's nice" when the first hold it. Overall, really happy with mine and worth the MSRP. It feels like a refined J frame. If you are one of those guys that picks up a J frame and its like "hello old friend" and the gun just makes sense for what it is, than this is that gun coming into it's prime. I would love to see the airweight Bodyguard get the same treatment. Also at my age, a J Frame doesnt get any better than this: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/161929/20240319_103354_jpg-3163675.JPG Thanks, I look forward to your thoughts after you've given it a run. The sights look very good, personally I've had mixed results with rounded front sights but, they're quick and if they shoot 148gr WC to the sights out to 15 yrs with a good trigger and build quality I'll be quite pleased, I'm pretty partial to CT grips for pocket carry which is my intended snub purpose so, if the grips are great but too large, I won't be disappointed to put CT' s on it, plus I think they'd lighten the load by a couple ounces. My 642 Pro's a great shooter but the sights are limiting with my eyesight, really look forward to real sights |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 10:05:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By floridacop: The trigger is heavy but smooth. It will only get better with some use. I'm not sure about the grips and pocket carry. I have ordered a pocket holster to try it out. I can take the grip panel off later to see how much grip material runs outside the back strap. But the grips obviously run outside the the back strap. The bottom of the butt: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/161929/20240319_133504_jpg-3163662.JPG The top of the backstrap: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/161929/20240319_133642_jpg-3163663.JPG The guys that partnered with Lipsey s on the specs and features know that pocket carry is a big bonus for J frames and one of them is big on mentioning he carries a lot that way. I can't see them going after grips that would frustrate that capability. The grips are really good. Everyone that has held mine starts off with some version of "oh that's nice" when the first hold it. Overall, really happy with mine and worth the MSRP. It feels like a refined J frame. If you are one of those guys that picks up a J frame and its like "hello old friend" and the gun just makes sense for what it is, than this is that gun coming into it's prime. I would love to see the airweight Bodyguard get the same treatment. Also at my age, a J Frame doesnt get any better than this: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/161929/20240319_103354_jpg-3163675.JPG Nice |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 5:09:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By floridacop: The trigger is heavy but smooth. It will only get better with some use. I'm not sure about the grips and pocket carry. I have ordered a pocket holster to try it out. I can take the grip panel off later to see how much grip material runs outside the back strap. But the grips obviously run outside the the back strap. The bottom of the butt: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/161929/20240319_133504_jpg-3163662.JPG The top of the backstrap: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/161929/20240319_133642_jpg-3163663.JPG The guys that partnered with Lipsey s on the specs and features know that pocket carry is a big bonus for J frames and one of them is big on mentioning he carries a lot that way. I can't see them going after grips that would frustrate that capability. The grips are really good. Everyone that has held mine starts off with some version of "oh that's nice" when the first hold it. Overall, really happy with mine and worth the MSRP. It feels like a refined J frame. If you are one of those guys that picks up a J frame and its like "hello old friend" and the gun just makes sense for what it is, than this is that gun coming into it's prime. I would love to see the airweight Bodyguard get the same treatment. Also at my age, a J Frame doesnt get any better than this: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/161929/20240319_103354_jpg-3163675.JPG Looks really good Dont be shy about checkin back in after you get some rounds through it I just bought a 642 right before they announced these. Id love to have one but I cant really justify the purchase 
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Posted: 3/20/2024 7:58:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chase45: Looks really good Dont be shy about checkin back in after you get some rounds through it I just bought a 642 right before they announced these. Id love to have one but I cant really justify the purchase We're a little busy with spring break, but when I get a chance I'm going to get one of our FA instructors to qualify me on it for off duty. I will update here as soon as I can. Also Speer 135 Grain +P is really hard to find right now. |
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Posted: 3/24/2024 8:13:59 PM EDT
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Heck, now I want one of those .32 revolvers but I will give it awhile to let the price come down some......maybe they will make some more in .327
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Posted: 3/24/2024 8:25:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cyclone: Heck, now I want one of those .32 revolvers but I will give it awhile to let the price come down some......maybe they will make some more in .327 These will never be available in .327 because that would require a scandium frame. |
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Posted: 3/24/2024 9:55:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By John_Wayne777: These will never be available in .327 because that would require a scandium frame. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By John_Wayne777: Originally Posted By cyclone: Heck, now I want one of those .32 revolvers but I will give it awhile to let the price come down some......maybe they will make some more in .327 These will never be available in .327 because that would require a scandium frame. Yeah, I don't see S&W doing that but it would be nice to have them available...... |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 11:29:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cyclone: Yeah, I don't see S&W doing that but it would be nice to have them available...... The sights and trigger modifications seen on these might make their way to the Scandium lineup, though. |
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Posted: 3/26/2024 3:20:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By John_Wayne777: The sights and trigger modifications seen on these might make their way to the Scandium lineup, though. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By John_Wayne777: Originally Posted By cyclone: Yeah, I don't see S&W doing that but it would be nice to have them available...... The sights and trigger modifications seen on these might make their way to the Scandium lineup, though. The sights would be good.............I have a 642 Performance center gun and the trigger is awesome |
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Posted: 5/12/2024 8:31:48 AM EDT
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If I wasn’t so invested in .38 I’d buy the 32
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Posted: 5/12/2024 8:33:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chainshaw: For the love of all that is holy, why in the hell would they not make it in .327 Federal Magnum? Absolutely stupid. Cost. Would need a scandium frame for that. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 7:54:47 PM EDT
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I picked up my 642 UC Friday afternoon, I'd pretty much agree with @floridacop' s acessment. So far I've run 180 rds including 158gr S&B, 132gr PMC, 148gr WC from GA and Lost River, all shot well and the WC' s stack at 7-10 yds with a drive the dot hold, I need to work with the sight' s as I'm not used to large and round but, they work and suit the purpose of the gun. I like the grips, being a little larger, they extend the trigger reach a little, to me it handles like a little bigger gun and handles recoil well but. recoil is subjective. The trigger on mine is a nice smooth 10 lbs, and very Shootable which has already improved with rds fired and dry fire. My sample was dry and needed lubing out of the box but has been 100%,
Just my opinion but I think Jason at Lipsey' s has delivered as advertised, and offered to address problems directly if necessary on several forums, if you're an info geek there's a ton on the revolver guy |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 8:58:16 PM EDT
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D-der,
 This gun has really brought me back around to revolvers. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 9:25:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bigfugly]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By floridacop: I'm not sure about the grips and pocket carry. I have ordered a pocket holster to try it out. The guys that partnered with Lipsey s on the specs and features know that pocket carry is a big bonus for J frames and one of them is big on mentioning he carries a lot that way. I can't see them going after grips that would frustrate that capability. The grips are really good. Everyone that has held mine starts off with some version of "oh that's nice" when the first hold it. Overall, really happy with mine and worth the MSRP. It feels like a refined J frame. If you are one of those guys that picks up a J frame and its like "hello old friend" and the gun just makes sense for what it is, than this is that gun coming into it's prime. I would love to see the airweight Bodyguard get the same treatment. Also at my age, a J Frame doesnt get any better than this: I know Bryan, and they have some big news they are hinting at from AFR that might address some of your complaints. Should be announced within the next week. They also have a pocket holster they released to work with this since the sights prohibit it from drawing from most pocket holsters. Sold out, but should be releasing some more soon. As far as the grips go, I agree about the feel. I have a 340 and have the Hamre Forge and UC grips, and the UC grips feel like I am shaking a man's hand if that makes sense. Like a real man, firm and confident. |
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Posted: 5/21/2024 8:01:08 PM EDT
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Just brought home my 442UC today.
The FFL/ range employees were blown away by the trigger and sights, and so am I. Very happy with my purchase. 200+ dry fires with snap caps today, hopefully I can get to the range to verify the hold and check function to make it my summer off duty gun. |
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Posted: 5/21/2024 8:06:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mimibeardsley: Just brought home my 442UC today. The FFL/ range employees were blown away by the trigger and sights, and so am I. Very happy with my purchase. 200+ dry fires with snap caps today, hopefully I can get to the range to verify the hold and check function to make it my summer off duty gun. Pics? |
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Posted: 5/21/2024 10:10:48 PM EDT
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 I got a 442 and a 632. The 442 is splendid. Lovely, smooth trigger. Shoots a little high of POA for the ammo I've tried in it, but I'm also not used to the U notch and huge front ball sight on the thing, so more work is necessary. The 632's trigger isn't anywhere close to being as good, and it had some ignition issues with multiple types of ammo on the first outing. And it was shooting considerably low of POA...but on my second trip Sunday it shot considerably better. Different lot of ammo, I think. I think there's still some working out to be done on the 632, but the 442 is GTG and splendid right out of the box. |
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Posted: 5/21/2024 10:16:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By John_Wayne777: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/37749/lipseys1-3219442.jpg I got a 442 and a 632. The 442 is splendid. Lovely, smooth trigger. Shoots a little high of POA for the ammo I've tried in it, but I'm also not used to the U notch and huge front ball sight on the thing, so more work is necessary. The 632's trigger isn't anywhere close to being as good, and it had some ignition issues with multiple types of ammo on the first outing. And it was shooting considerably low of POA...but on my second trip Sunday it shot considerably better. Different lot of ammo, I think. I think there's still some working out to be done on the 632, but the 442 is GTG and splendid right out of the box. IIRC you're a wadcutter fan - what's your choice load in .32? Still wadcutters? |
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Posted: 5/22/2024 1:04:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Geralt55: IIRC you're a wadcutter fan - what's your choice load in .32? Still wadcutters? I'm working on that. My assumption was .32 H&R magnum wadcutters loaded by Lost River. If I find out they're reliable and that the light strikes I've seen in the 632 so far are because the revolver is at fault, that will be what I carry. But in general I like wadcutters as a carry option for these tiny revolvers because JHP expansion isn't reliable out of them, the recoil and blast usually gets you nothing, and wadcutters do a really good job of cutting tissue. |
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Posted: 5/22/2024 1:32:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By John_Wayne777: I'm working on that. My assumption was .32 H&R magnum wadcutters loaded by Lost River. If I find out they're reliable and that the light strikes I've seen in the 632 so far are because the revolver is at fault, that will be what I carry. But in general I like wadcutters as a carry option for these tiny revolvers because JHP expansion isn't reliable out of them, the recoil and blast usually gets you nothing, and wadcutters do a really good job of cutting tissue. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By John_Wayne777: Originally Posted By Geralt55: IIRC you're a wadcutter fan - what's your choice load in .32? Still wadcutters? I'm working on that. My assumption was .32 H&R magnum wadcutters loaded by Lost River. If I find out they're reliable and that the light strikes I've seen in the 632 so far are because the revolver is at fault, that will be what I carry. But in general I like wadcutters as a carry option for these tiny revolvers because JHP expansion isn't reliable out of them, the recoil and blast usually gets you nothing, and wadcutters do a really good job of cutting tissue. I have the same opinions generally  In my AO you can't carry HPs, so it's basically the Hornady family, FMJ, SWC, and Wadcutters  The 110gr Hornady CD rounds in 38, I'm just skeptical. It seems like in a 38 with a short barrel you get a choice of penetration OR expansion, but not both. If you want both and drive it fast enough, now you're at that +P/light .357 line, and it's not at home in the ~15oz Snubbies (the 22oz+ steel ones are supposedly the floor for what most can really tolerate for "light" 357) My only concern with the .32 wadcutters is, I wonder if there's a step down in performance vs a 38 wadcutter? |
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Posted: 5/22/2024 2:42:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Geralt55: I have the same opinions generally In my AO you can't carry HPs, so it's basically the Hornady family, FMJ, SWC, and Wadcutters The 110gr Hornady CD rounds in 38, I'm just skeptical. It seems like in a 38 with a short barrel you get a choice of penetration OR expansion, but not both. If you want both and drive it fast enough, now you're at that +P/light .357 line, and it's not at home in the ~15oz Snubbies (the 22oz+ steel ones are supposedly the floor for what most can really tolerate for "light" 357) My only concern with the .32 wadcutters is, I wonder if there's a step down in performance vs a 38 wadcutter? Not one that can be quantified. You have a slightly smaller PCC with the .32, still good penetration in all the testing I've seen. |
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Posted: 5/22/2024 3:00:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Geralt55]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By John_Wayne777: Not one that can be quantified. You have a slightly smaller PCC with the .32, still good penetration in all the testing I've seen. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By John_Wayne777: Originally Posted By Geralt55: I have the same opinions generally In my AO you can't carry HPs, so it's basically the Hornady family, FMJ, SWC, and Wadcutters The 110gr Hornady CD rounds in 38, I'm just skeptical. It seems like in a 38 with a short barrel you get a choice of penetration OR expansion, but not both. If you want both and drive it fast enough, now you're at that +P/light .357 line, and it's not at home in the ~15oz Snubbies (the 22oz+ steel ones are supposedly the floor for what most can really tolerate for "light" 357) My only concern with the .32 wadcutters is, I wonder if there's a step down in performance vs a 38 wadcutter? Not one that can be quantified. You have a slightly smaller PCC with the .32, still good penetration in all the testing I've seen. Interesting ETA: It makes me think that .32 is a great pick for older shooters who might have arthritis as a concern. .32 being easier to manage than .38, an extra round being a bonus in what is a very small, reliable package |
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Posted: 5/22/2024 3:18:29 PM EDT
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Trigger looks MIM.
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