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Posted: 5/16/2023 1:16:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Digger440]
BCM,
You make exceptional products, but you seem to give no cares about us lawful gun owners in Washington State. I ordered only keymod covers. And, I got the following response from you; Hello Digger440, Thank you for contacting us. Due to actions by the State of Washington, and after extensive consultation with expert legal counsel; we have made the difficult decision to suspend all sales to Washington until further notice. This includes any order with a billing or shipping address in Washington. The new rules and its extent are not determinable at this time, and it seems unlikely that the rule will withstand constitutional scrutiny. We oppose the behavior of the current Washington government, however our actions are designed to protect both customers and vendors from liability. We will continue to monitor all legal developments in Washington and support American rights. At this time you order has been canceled and refunded. Bravo Company USA, Inc www.BravoCompanyUSA.com Have you ended business with all of us in Washington State? Or, better said, what of your goods can I buy? Please advise Order Number:604662 |
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Posted: 5/16/2023 1:29:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Digger440: BCM, You make exceptional products, but you seem to give no cares about us lawful gun owners in Washington State. I ordered only keymod covers. And, I got the following response from you; Hello Digger440, Thank you for contacting us. Due to actions by the State of Washington, and after extensive consultation with expert legal counsel; we have made the difficult decision to suspend all sales to Washington until further notice. This includes any order with a billing or shipping address in Washington. The new rules and its extent are not determinable at this time, and it seems unlikely that the rule will withstand constitutional scrutiny. We oppose the behavior of the current Washington government, however our actions are designed to protect both customers and vendors from liability. We will continue to monitor all legal developments in Washington and support American rights. At this time you order has been canceled and refunded. Bravo Company USA, Inc www.BravoCompanyUSA.com Have you ended business with all of us in Washington State? Or, better said, what of your goods can I buy? Please advise Order Number:604662 Seems your anger should be directed at your fellow citizens in Washington, not BCM. The answer to your questions would seem to be yes, and none, for very obvious reasons out of BCM's control. |
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Posted: 5/16/2023 2:00:08 PM EDT
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So damn sad that a state named after Washington has become a commie state.
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Posted: 5/16/2023 4:14:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Seems your anger should be directed at your fellow citizens in Washington, not BCM. The answer to your questions would seem to be yes, and none, for very obvious reasons out of BCM's control. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By Digger440: BCM, You make exceptional products, but you seem to give no cares about us lawful gun owners in Washington State. I ordered only keymod covers. And, I got the following response from you; Hello Digger440, Thank you for contacting us. Due to actions by the State of Washington, and after extensive consultation with expert legal counsel; we have made the difficult decision to suspend all sales to Washington until further notice. This includes any order with a billing or shipping address in Washington. The new rules and its extent are not determinable at this time, and it seems unlikely that the rule will withstand constitutional scrutiny. We oppose the behavior of the current Washington government, however our actions are designed to protect both customers and vendors from liability. We will continue to monitor all legal developments in Washington and support American rights. At this time you order has been canceled and refunded. Bravo Company USA, Inc www.BravoCompanyUSA.com Have you ended business with all of us in Washington State? Or, better said, what of your goods can I buy? Please advise Order Number:604662 Seems your anger should be directed at your fellow citizens in Washington, not BCM. The answer to your questions would seem to be yes, and none, for very obvious reasons out of BCM's control. @Backbencher We normally get along and see eye to eye, but this time you need to go suck a lemon. Have you read the text of Washington HB1240? In not one part of that horrible piece of legislation are keymod rail covers prohibited. This is not GD and I am not here to argue with you. I came in here specifically to ask BCM why they will not sell parts that are not prohibited. I also should have been less disrespectful in my title, edit inbound. I do need to apologize as I was completely in the wrong. |
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Posted: 5/16/2023 5:44:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: backbencher]
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Why would I bother reading communist legislation? Is anyone actually selling to you guys? Until you get an injunction, I doubt anyone will touch your state with anything but fudd guns and ammo.
ETA: Get a 3-D printer. You're gonna need it. |
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Posted: 5/16/2023 5:46:17 PM EDT
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OP, primary arms sells BCM parts. Just order from them.
Sucks for you guys, hopefully it gets challenged in courts quickly. Good luck ! |
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Posted: 5/16/2023 6:05:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Why would I bother reading communist legislation? Is anyone actually selling to you guys? Until you get an injunction, I doubt anyone will touch your state with anything but fudd guns and ammo. ETA: Get a 3-D printer. You're gonna need it. Please stop, again this is not GD. I utterly failed at having any sort of decorum with my original title. I have edited my completely out of line title and I will apologize again. I would like a BCM rep to explain why a rubber rail cover is a prohibited part. |
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Posted: 5/16/2023 6:10:17 PM EDT
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I think you might be better off citing chapter and verse why their lawyers are wrong. Their lawyers' job is to minimize risk to the company. You've not demonstrated that the lawyers were incorrect in their assessment of legal risk to BCM.
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Posted: 5/16/2023 6:14:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Capt_Destro]
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From IL I feel you. Even with a TRO getting stuff shipped is spotty
eBay has bcm keymod covers. Sellers there rarely care about such laws. 
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Posted: 5/17/2023 8:49:09 PM EDT
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Hey OP, I got to the credit card page on PSA w/ Jay Inslee as my name & the Capitol address for shipping:
https://palmetto statearmory.com/hexmag-low-profile-keymod-polymer-rail-cover-black-hx-kmc-4pk-blk.html Link intentionally broken to prevent ARFCOM selling your data. |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 5/17/2023 8:56:11 PM EDT
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If it makes you feel better, BCM and Brownells both won't sell to IL either.
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Posted: 5/18/2023 8:09:26 AM EDT
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Just remember, behind every decision to not sell is a lawyer, or insurance company, or both, telling the vendor what they can and can not do.
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Posted: 5/18/2023 1:20:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: backbencher]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lancelot: Just remember, behind every decision to not sell is a lawyer, or insurance company, or both, telling the vendor what they can and can not do. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lancelot: Just remember, behind every decision to not sell is a lawyer, or insurance company, or both, telling the vendor what they can and can not do. Based on restrictive state laws. Think I found your problems, OP: https://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2023-24/Pdf/Bills/Session%20Laws/House/1240-S.SL.pdf?q=20230518100848 (iii) A conversion kit, part, or combination of parts, from which an assault weapon can be assembled or from which a firearm can be converted into an assault weapon if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person; or... (I) A shroud that encircles either all or part of the barrel designed to shield the bearer's hand from heat, except a solid forearm of a stock that covers only the bottom of the barrel; https://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2023-24/Pdf/Bills/Session%20Laws/Senate/5078-S.SL.pdf?q=20230518100852 (iv) An accessory or device that is designed or adapted to be inserted into, affixed onto, or used in conjunction with a firearm, if the device is marketed or sold to the public and that is designed, intended, or able to be used to increase a firearm's rate of fire, concealability, magazine capacity, or destructive capacity, or to increase the firearm's stability and handling when the firearm is repeatedly fired; (Emphasis mine) I don't see why anyone would risk selling you rail covers - or just about any modern rifle part other than 10 round magazines - until y'all manage to secure an injunction. |
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