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WA, USA
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Posted: 10/21/2022 4:18:15 PM EDT
Now I've wondered this for a long time, but why has Troy never made available the round rear sight along with the M4 front sight in the micro series? It's the only combination I'd want to have and I assume I'm not the only one. I just don't care for the Dioptic rear sight or the incorrectly executed Troy/HK "style" front. I'd be fine with the HK style front sight if it was done correctly, but it wasn't.
Am I alone? |
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Posted: 12/22/2022 8:44:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Uys]
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I agree with you. The front sight picture of a real HK sight is useful and I always liked it. The front sight post moving within the round guard defeats the purpose. They'd have to make the rear sight have elevation and windage adjustments and that seems like it won't happen.
I emailed about the M4 front sight/round aperature commbo, but never heard back. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 12/22/2022 10:41:43 PM EDT
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The big problem here with these micro sights is that Troy is really the only game in town if you need them. I can't think of any other manufacturer that is making BUIS that are micro height.
But Troy is unresponsive and they seem very unreceptive to make any changes. This isn't the first time I've brought this to their attention. |
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Posted: 12/24/2022 10:56:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Uys]
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I put the OCCAM Defense sights on a Galil ACE gen 2. They remind me of the CZ scorption sights. I don't recall their exact height, but they are shorter than HK 416 fixed sights. About 5/8 from top of rail to the aperture, eyeballing with a tape measure.
I am not a fan of sky-high sights when it is not necessary. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 12/24/2022 2:29:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 556Cliff]
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Very interesting... I never heard of OCCAM Defense. I might have to look into them a bit more. The sights look like a perfect match for the Beretta ARX-100, which is the main reason I've been considering the Troy micro sights.
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Posted: 12/24/2022 3:51:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Uys]
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They were $160 for the pair. Price has gone up a bit, but they were perfect on my ARX100 due to the rail to comb height. Ended up putting RobertsRTG HK416 sight pair on the ARX and swapped the Occam Defense sights to the ACE.
Actual HK sights are available at MidwayUSA right now. Not cheap (in stock), but HK - https://www.midwayusa.com/s?searchTerm=hk+rifle+sights |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 12/24/2022 4:00:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Uys: They were $160 for the pair. Price has gone up a bit, but they were perfect on my ARX100 due to the rail to comb height. Ended up putting RobertsRTG HK416 sight pair on the ARX and swapped the Occam Defense sights to the ACE. Actual HK sights are available at MidwayUSA right now. Not cheap (in stock), but HK - https://www.midwayusa.com/s?searchTerm=hk+rifle+sights What's the difference between the RobertsRTG HK416 sights and the real HK416 sights? I've considered the HK416 sights a few times, but being fixed sights I thought they still might sick up a bit too much through a dot sight for my preference. |
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Posted: 12/24/2022 4:10:07 PM EDT
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If I remember correctly the front sight blade and rear drum parts are HK take-off parts, but the aluminum bases were sourced by RobrertsRTG. They were $99 for the pair and have worked just fine. I don't know if they are still available from RobertsRTG. I loaned them to a friend that put them on a SIG Virtus for a carbine class. They are the right height for the Virtus too. I can measure the rail to peep height if you like.
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Posted: 12/24/2022 4:17:27 PM EDT
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I measured the front since it isn't adjustable and it is about 1 1/8 inches from the rail. I don't have a photo dump, otherwise I could post a photo.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 12/24/2022 5:37:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 556Cliff]
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Thanks for the measurements! I'd probably rather go the route of the Occam Defense sights since they sit a bit lower. Actually (as you mentioned), the CZ Scorpion sights do indeed appear to be very similar to the Occom Defense sights. I haven't decided on anything yet, but I guess I have some new options to consider.
 In a perfect world I'd still prefer the Troy micros if they offered a combination I'd be willing to buy, but I don't think there's any possibility of that happening. |
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