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MD, USA
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Posted: 9/8/2018 1:47:24 PM EDT
The ATF has ruled that all 50bmg UPPERS will now be considered firearms and as such MUST have their own Serial Number. Letters have been sent to ALL manufacturers of 50bmg uppers to explain this running. Yes, an upper now needs a serial number. The ruling leads one to believe that your 50 bmg firearm mayl have 2 serial numbers. Which one do you use during a transfer? This ruling will further confuse dealers and the public. Imagine.
My question is what do you do if you already own an upper that doesn't have a serial number?  image hosting website
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MO, USA
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Posted: 9/8/2018 2:04:30 PM EDT
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WOW!
You should post this in GD. I know there is a lot of BS there, but there are also a lot more eyes. |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 2:12:18 PM EDT
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So if this is a new regulation, doesnt the ATF need to cancel 2 other regulations to implement it per Trump's EO's?
Hummmm...... |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 2:19:21 PM EDT
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ATF...needs to be abolished along with the acts that begot BATFE.
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Posted: 9/8/2018 2:22:33 PM EDT
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what the fuck
they scared |
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USA
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Posted: 9/8/2018 2:29:15 PM EDT
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Trump will certainly shut this down post haste.
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Posted: 9/8/2018 2:35:54 PM EDT
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Didnt we already do this?
IIRC, it was just the Safety Harbor manufactured uppers, and not ALL 50 BMG uppers... I'm not okay with this, but I dont believe it affects all 50 cal uppers. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/8/2018 2:45:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MaxxII:
Didnt we already do this? IIRC, it was just the Safety Harbor manufactured uppers, and not ALL 50 BMG uppers... I'm not okay with this, but I dont believe it affects all 50 cal uppers. |
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Posted: 9/8/2018 4:05:17 PM EDT
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The caliber determines if it's a firearm or upper? Good luck with that...
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MD, USA
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Posted: 9/8/2018 7:53:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MaxxII:
Didnt we already do this? IIRC, it was just the Safety Harbor manufactured uppers, and not ALL 50 BMG uppers... I'm not okay with this, but I dont believe it affects all 50 cal uppers. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/07/30/breaking-news-atf-is-classifying-50-cal-bolt-action-ar-uppers-as-firearm/ |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 9/8/2018 8:16:12 PM EDT
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Sorry, but I didn't include the entire letter. I don't know why the pages kept getting larger. That's something I couldn't fix, but you get the information that the ATF conveyed to Safety Harbor along with the other manufacturers.
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USA
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Posted: 10/2/2018 5:13:30 PM EDT
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I have owned a safety harbor upper 50BMG. This is bullshit. You can bet it will spread to all uppers in the near future. Hope they appeal it!
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Posted: 10/2/2018 5:19:50 PM EDT
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So when do they send letters to Ares and AR57...
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Posted: 10/2/2018 5:20:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bearcat24:
I have owned a safety harbor upper 50BMG. This is bullshit. You can bet it will spread to all uppers in the near future. Hope they appeal it! |
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Posted: 10/6/2018 10:41:19 AM EDT
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One of the original letters was to the manufacturer of BOHICA uppers. It was to them specifically and at the time, no other manufacturers got them.
I think it had more to do with the fact that their uppers weren't the best out there. The owner was a little out there also, made a lot of weird claims... He also pissed off a lot of his customers, ended up moving to AZ if I remember correctly and changed the name of the company. I've heard that if you call and ask about getting parts for your BOHICA upper, he'll hang up on you! As far as these new letters go, the upper is just a part and I don't see how they'll be able to make this work. If it does go through it could affect any company that manufactures uppers for AR's. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 12/16/2018 8:24:58 PM EDT
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If it is true then it will effect Thompson center contenders and encores, they are switch barrel guns and if bought as gandus can be made into rifle-shotgun and muzzle loader by just two scrres and pushing out by a pin.
You feed the ammo straight into the varrel |
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Posted: 12/16/2018 9:01:26 PM EDT
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How will this effect that weird California .50 BMG round, it is like .4999 BMG or something?
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Posted: 3/21/2021 2:07:02 AM EDT
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Did this ever happen?
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Posted: 3/21/2021 2:11:19 AM EDT
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They're doing this to track sales.
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Posted: 3/21/2021 2:36:51 AM EDT
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This interpretation is consistent with the law.
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Posted: 3/21/2021 4:20:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By j_h_smith: The ATF has ruled that all 50bmg UPPERS will now be considered firearms and as such MUST have their own Serial Number. Letters have been sent to ALL manufacturers of 50bmg uppers to explain this running. Yes, an upper now needs a serial number. The ruling leads one to believe that your 50 bmg firearm mayl have 2 serial numbers. Which one do you use during a transfer? This ruling will further confuse dealers and the public. Imagine. My question is what do you do if you already own an upper that doesn't have a serial number? https://s15.postimg.cc/3unrmmzu3/ATF.pngimage hosting website Are they unaware that the firing mechanism is not housed in the upper? AR lowers aren't even de jure firearms. Fuck atf people are retarded. |
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