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Posted: 8/2/2022 9:01:59 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/2/2022 9:06:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bishop3: We're deep into August now. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/89656/afd_jpeg-2473906.JPG  😆 🤣 |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/2/2022 1:12:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bishop3: We're deep into August now. Same for Vickers Gude AR-15 V2 suppose to ship in August, |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/2/2022 6:16:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OTDR: Same for Vickers Gude AR-15 V2 suppose to ship in August, Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OTDR: Originally Posted By Bishop3: We're deep into August now. Same for Vickers Gude AR-15 V2 suppose to ship in August, If Colt doesn't hurry and release them soon and if the Senate passes the ban bill, we may never see a CM5. |
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Posted: 8/2/2022 6:17:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By securenet: If Colt doesn't hurry and release them soon and if the Senate passes the ban bill, we may never see a CM5. Yeah thats my concern too. |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 8/3/2022 6:40:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By securenet: If Colt doesn't hurry and release them soon and if the Senate passes the ban bill, we may never see a CM5. Not going to happen. |
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Posted: 8/8/2022 2:08:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HipSh0T]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By securenet: If Colt doesn't hurry and release them soon and if the Senate passes the ban bill, we may never see a CM5. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By securenet: Originally Posted By OTDR: Originally Posted By Bishop3: We're deep into August now. Same for Vickers Gude AR-15 V2 suppose to ship in August, If Colt doesn't hurry and release them soon and if the Senate passes the ban bill, we may never see a CM5. I'll give a Charlton Heston scream like he did at the end of Planet of the Apes if this happens. |
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Posted: 8/18/2022 9:09:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dadasmithywinkle]
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https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/modern-sporting-rifles/colt-m5-carbine-sentry-556mm-nato-16in-black-anodized-semi-automatic-modern-sporting-rifle-301/p/1764465
Soon, maybe? I first saw it on Sportsmans but searched and found that several shops have them listed, albeit OOS, below MSRP now: https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/cm556-16-m5s I know there have been listings for a minute but it seems to be coming up more and more on various sites |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 8/20/2022 12:48:01 AM EDT
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I can't wait for 11.5" Upper.
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/30/2022 11:41:03 PM EDT
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I wonder if this M5 Sentry is ever going to still happen?
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Posted: 8/31/2022 11:49:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OTDR: I wonder if this M5 Sentry is ever going to still happen? Make sure you are subscribed to Arms Unlimiteds email newsletter. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/31/2022 1:38:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Minuteman1636: Make sure you are subscribed to Arms Unlimiteds email newsletter. Yes Sir, I already am. |
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Posted: 8/31/2022 4:13:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: keano]
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Posted: 8/31/2022 4:19:56 PM EDT
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Damn. I just bought a Staccato P and MCX Rattler in .300BLK within the last month so I can't do it.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 8/31/2022 5:23:56 PM EDT
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Just got the email from Arms Unlimited its in stock - seems kind of odd they went with a carbine gas on a 16" for a premium rifle
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/31/2022 5:30:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By keano: https://www.armsunlimited.com/Colt-M5-Carbine-Patrol-Rifle-p/cm556-16-m5s.htm In stock Just ordered that bitch!! |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/31/2022 6:00:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By keano: https://www.armsunlimited.com/Colt-M5-Carbine-Patrol-Rifle-p/cm556-16-m5s.htm In stock Shows 94 in stock, but me thinks they are only in transit from Hartford. Will be interesting to see how long it takes to sell out. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 8/31/2022 6:12:18 PM EDT
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I just ordered 1. I may put a 6960 upper on it. I can't wait. Been waiting for this thing for a few years
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PA, USA
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Posted: 8/31/2022 6:33:08 PM EDT
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Are these actually coming with a 13.5” rail?
It sure doesn’t look like a 13.5” rail on a 16” barrel in the pic on AUs site (or any other pic I see) |
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Posted: 8/31/2022 6:47:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Minuteman1636]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By oxford411: Are these actually coming with a 13.5” rail? It sure doesn’t look like a 13.5” rail on a 16” barrel in the pic on AUs site (or any other pic I see) I haven't been able to see one/measure one but it is supposed to be the same rail as shown on this 14" example image.  Attached FileHaving said that, I haven't seen one so all we can do is speculate. Buyer proceed with caution if you are looking for a specific feature. |
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Posted: 8/31/2022 6:57:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By oxford411: Are these actually coming with a 13.5” rail? It sure doesn’t look like a 13.5” rail on a 16” barrel in the pic on AUs site (or any other pic I see) With 8 Mlok slots and not much barrel sticking out it’s definitely not a 13.5 rail. AU pic  Attached File |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 8/31/2022 8:10:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: oxford411]
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It will be interesting to see what they show up with. Lipseys description says 15” rail. After what fonty posted, I looked a little more and it does appear that some are using a 14.5” barrel with a 13.5” handguard in the “stock” pic while a few while a few others have a 16” barrel with 15” handguard pic.
Lipseys M5 I’m still curious as to what barrel profile will be under that handguard and if it’s going to be a standard barrel extension or a 6940 style. |
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Posted: 8/31/2022 9:32:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DieselII]
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Dammit , I couldn't resist . .
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MN, USA
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Posted: 9/1/2022 12:24:16 AM EDT
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I really hope it's got a SOCOM profile barrel. That would set it off..
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UT, USA
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Posted: 9/1/2022 1:31:14 AM EDT
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MN, USA
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Posted: 9/1/2022 9:52:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MGYSGT8541]
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I hope it comes with that charging handle as well. My hope is for the following:
ambie CH SOCOM barrel 6 position tube "M5 Carbine" markings |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 10:31:52 AM EDT
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The rail in the 16" guns is about 15". It stops behind the flash hider.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 9/1/2022 10:43:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Under_ScoreFTW]
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Price for what is a Colt-assembled parts gun is absurd. Carbine gas system. Lol. But America is wonderful because I don't have to like what you like and you don't have to like what I like. ETA: Show me where the Barrel, BCG, Upper/Lower are all manufactured by Colt and I'll retract my "parts gun" comment. ETA #2: Lower is advertised as "full ambi". Is it really full ambi? People say that KAC's lower is "full ambi", but it's not since there's no bolt-hold open on the right-hand side (vs. LMT, LWRC, CMT, Radian, ADM, etc.). I can't tell what Colt's mechanism is, but if they're using a "one button/two function" system, they may be having to pay Radian for the rights. ETA #3: Doesn't look like it's truly full-ambi. I'm sorry, I just don't consider a gun that doesn't have right-side bolt hold open as "full ambi". Clearing malfunctions is a thing.  That's a hard pass for me. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 9/1/2022 11:17:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MGYSGT8541]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Under_ScoreFTW: Price for what is a Colt-assembled parts gun is absurd. Carbine gas system. Lol. But America is wonderful because I don't have to like what you like and you don't have to like what I like. ETA: Show me where the Barrel, BCG, Upper/Lower are all manufactured by Colt and I'll retract my "parts gun" comment. ETA #2: Lower is advertised as "full ambi". Is it really full ambi? People say that KAC's lower is "full ambi", but it's not since there's no bolt-hold open on the right-hand side (vs. LMT, LWRC, CMT, Radian, ADM, etc.). I can't tell what Colt's mechanism is, but if they're using a "one button/two function" system, they may be having to pay Radian for the rights. ETA #3: Doesn't look like it's truly full-ambi. I'm sorry, I just don't consider a gun that doesn't have right-side bolt hold open as "full ambi". Clearing malfunctions is a thing. https://i.postimg.cc/qqKkHhdx/3-E873-B83-8303-46-E9-B910-005-BCEEE4-E70.jpg That's a hard pass for me. it appears in the photo that is a heavier profile barrel. Carbine gas system is good. Especially with 16 inch barrel. Don't know what's funny about that. Some will complain no matter what. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 9/1/2022 11:35:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Under_ScoreFTW]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MGYSGT8541: good for you. it appears in the photo that is a heavier profile barrel. Carbine gas system is good. Especially with 16 inch barrel. Don't know what's funny about that. Some will complain no matter what. I guess you missed the "you don't have to like what I like and I don't have to like what you like" part of my post. MY PREFERENCE for a 16" barrel is mid-length (and Crane's, too) at least (and often rifle). This is exponentially so because I shoot suppressed (because I'm not a neanderthal - I kid, I kid . . . mostly). It's funny because Colt is like a dog with a bone with the carbine-length system. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 9/1/2022 5:20:01 PM EDT
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So you guys really think these are worth $2k? I'm thinking more like 1.5k and I would spring for one.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 9/1/2022 5:43:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Under_ScoreFTW]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By H53EXPERT: So you guys really think these are worth $2k? I'm thinking more like 1.5k and I would spring for one. Take whatever an DI LWRCI is going for these days, and then subtract (yes, I said subtract), $500 and that's what your market price should be (LWRC is way more fully featured, and 100% built in house), then add in whatever you think the value of the the Colt |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 6:38:41 PM EDT
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CCC has them for $1895 but it's CCC...
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Posted: 9/1/2022 7:16:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: quicksilvergoat04]
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I always get a kick out of the Colt haters and the efforts they put into hating. They can never resist showing up.
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Posted: 9/1/2022 7:36:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By quicksilvergoat04: I always get a kick out of the Colt haters and the efforts they put into hating. They can never resist showing up. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 9/1/2022 7:52:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tactical_dude: CCC has them for $1895 but it's CCC... I ordered from them a few times and they have been great. Sorry that's not others experience |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 9/1/2022 8:03:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Under_ScoreFTW]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DieselII: Probably the first ones hitting the place order button . Lol, no. I've had two colts (both OEM2s). They were pre parts-assembly colt, not the current ones. They were just fine, but got sold shortly before Covid (if only I would have held onto them) . . . I think it's overrated, but I have an SR-15 that's better, an LMT (well, two if you count the 300BLK) pair of LWRCIs, a pair of Radians, a pair of ADMs (ADMs are kinda parts assemblers, too, but they offer a somewhat unique product) and a variety of others . . . . I think there's some validity in the value of the Pre-colt-as-assembler Colts (otherwise I wouldn't have bought them), so I don't so much hate them as much as I scratch my head nowadays because what they used to have they don't anymore, and what they're putting together isn't that great or unique. I think they're in a tough place as a business, so I understand why they're doing what they're doing. But that doesn't mean they are what they used to be, and accordingly the market shouldn't treat them like that. Not trying to bash them at all . . . just hope they get better. |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 8:15:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Under_ScoreFTW: Lol, no. I've had two colts (both OEM2s). They were pre parts-assembly colt, not the current ones. They were just fine, but got sold shortly before Covid (if only I would have held onto them) . . . I think it's overrated, but I have an SR-15 that's better, an LMT (well, two if you count the 300BLK) pair of LWRCIs, a pair of Radians, a pair of ADMs (ADMs are kinda parts assemblers, too, but they offer a somewhat unique product) and a variety of others . . . . I think there's some validity in the value of the Pre-colt-as-assembler Colts (otherwise I wouldn't have bought them), so I don't so much hate them as much as I scratch my head nowadays because what they used to have they don't anymore, and what they're putting together isn't that great or unique. I think they're in a tough place as a business, so I understand why they're doing what they're doing. But that doesn't mean they are what they used to be, and accordingly the market shouldn't treat them like that. Not trying to bash them at all . . . just hope they get better. All OEM-2's have been part sourced/assembled the same way since they became an active product. Other than cosmetics (rollmarks, selector stops, etc) there isn't any dramatic difference. |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 8:18:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Minuteman1636: All OEM-2's have been part sourced/assembled the same way since they became an active product. Other than cosmetics (rollmarks, selector stops, etc) there isn't any dramatic difference. |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 8:20:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 45FMJoe: Some people just can't help but show off ignorance. I'm being ignorant? How? Lol... |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 9/1/2022 8:22:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Under_ScoreFTW]
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Minuteman1636: I'm being ignorant? How? Lol... My OEM2s were not the same as the current OEM2s - almost nothing is the same. I didn't call you ignorant, but I think you're mistaken here. |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 8:31:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Under_ScoreFTW: My OEM2s were not the same as the current OEM2s - almost nothing is the same. I didn't call you ignorant, but I think you're mistaken here. Completely different. Please tell us exactly how one version was completely different (you said nothing is the same) from the other. You are saying triggers were different, bcg's were different, charging handles were different, barrels were different. Not a thing about your claim makes sense. I know many members here have multiple OEM-2's. I hope someone jumps into this conversation and can illustrate what you claim. There were never 'different' OEM-2's. You might have a Rosco barrel instead of a Wilson barrel...or an F1 marked pistol grip instead of F3. You're just trolling or drinking too much. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 9/1/2022 8:55:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Minuteman1636: just trolling This |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 9:37:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Minuteman1636: I'm being ignorant? How? Lol... |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 9:41:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 45FMJoe: Not you, homie! Ah ok. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 9/1/2022 9:48:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Under_ScoreFTW: My OEM2s were not the same as the current OEM2s - almost nothing is the same. I didn't call you ignorant, but I think you're mistaken here. Can you elaborate in detail on what is different between your OEM2s and the current OEM2s I own? |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 9/1/2022 10:23:05 PM EDT
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We are being side tracked here. CCC claims the M5 has a Geissele handguard and MBus Pro sights. Has anyone seen the CM556-16-M5S yet?
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MN, USA
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Posted: 9/1/2022 10:35:27 PM EDT
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Can you haters please go elsewhere. We are talking about the M5. Go somewhere else and troll and talk about how colt sucks now. This thread is about the M5. If you don't like it then STFU and move on please
I ordered one. I hope the ambie CH is on this one. Barrel profile? Still no proof of either. If anyone gets theirs or can confirm some things then please post. Thanks. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 9/1/2022 10:36:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Under_ScoreFTW]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OTDR: Can you elaborate in detail on what is different between your OEM2s and the current OEM2s I own? Does your BC have a "C" stamp? I'm assuming your Bolt has MPC Barrels are different. Mine came with a Surefire War Comp from the factory (JUST KIDDING, relax). In judging from the rest of the photos I'm looking at closely online - I overstated the "nothing is the same". There are some similarities. There are, however, not as many similarities between what my OEM2 was and the newer Colt guns I've seen. So, while I will eat crow about overstating the dissimilarities on the OEM2, that doesn't invalidate my larger point about them being a parts assembler. If the barrels, uppers, (some of) the bolt carriers are coming from outside . . . . (and who knows what else), are they a manufacturer or an assembler? Please save the argument about "other companies doing the same thing." All I'm talking about is "heyday Colt" and current colt. If you think they are "as good" as they used to be at their, I'd love to hear why - educate me - I'm not unreasonable, and can be convinced. I'm not particularly brand-loyal to one company or another. I love firearms from companies that I hate, and I don't "hate" Colt at all. I wouldn't even say I dislike them. I have a real appreciation for what they represent and their history (and have Vickers' book on the AR, which of Course is unreal in what it shows about them). |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 9/1/2022 10:46:57 PM EDT
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Unanswered questions I'm sure to have answered soon:
1:barrel length 14.5 p/w or 16" 2:barrel profile m4A1 was mentioned somewhere 3: Rollmarks 4: CZ in the serial number range like Dan Wesson 1911s 5: scratching my head on a 15" rail on carbine gas 6: CAGE codes 7: M5 only mentioned in Colt LEO\Military catalog and none were offered with 16" barrel . Was this a last minute commercial decision 8: 2k for the gun with a $40 stock? Come on man! 9: Accessories 10: Commonality of parts with M4 (lower parts and BCG) I have others , but that's a start |
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