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Posted: 2/4/2024 8:19:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bakke1: Pretty please, with sugar on top, make a fixed 6 or 8 power scope with a good bdc and GLX+ glass for dedicated use with an rmr/T1. I would buy about eight of them. The LPVO vs. prism vs. magnifier has me tired. A fixed 6 would be great. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 2/14/2024 4:28:09 PM EDT
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How about a 3x microprism with a .22LR reticle? Calibrated from a 16” barrel like the 10/22 has.
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Posted: 2/14/2024 4:33:31 PM EDT
[#3]
I keep asking for this but a 4x prism with a rds built in up top?
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Posted: 2/14/2024 4:41:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoody2shoez: I keep asking for this but a 4x prism with a rds built in up top? Preferably GLX or PLX. I'd prefer RMR footprint, but plenty of folks would like ACRO, so I wouldn't have an issue with MOS plate system like on some of the other offerings. But a built in mount like on the Vortex 5x or the ACOG "wing" boss mounts would give me another option than the TA33s I've standardized on. And I've bought two TA33s in the last month and would have been quite happy to go with a cheaper PA offering if the execution (durability) of the piggyback mount hadn't been complete shit. |
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Posted: 2/14/2024 4:43:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By keeperofthedew: Preferably GLX or PLX. I'd prefer RMR footprint, but plenty of folks would like ACRO, so I wouldn't have an issue with MOS plate system like on some of the other offerings. But a built in mount like on the Vortex 5x or the ACOG "wing" boss mounts would give me another option than the TA33s I've standardized on. And I've bought two TA33s in the last month and would have been quite happy to go with a cheaper PA offering if the execution (durability) of the piggyback mount hadn't been complete shit. No No footprint Literally a built in rds up top One solid unit. |
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Posted: 2/14/2024 4:49:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Castillo]
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoody2shoez: No No footprint Literally a built in rds up top One solid unit. Interesting Awesome idea |
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Posted: 2/14/2024 4:54:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: hoody2shoez]
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Castillo: Interesting Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Castillo: Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: No No footprint Literally a built in rds up top One solid unit. Interesting I mean people buy these things and proceed to mount a rds to it anyway. Let's all just agree to save a step and have it come as a single piece |
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Posted: 2/14/2024 5:32:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoody2shoez: I mean people buy these things and proceed to mount a rds to it anyway. Let's all just agree to save a step and have it come as a single piece Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoody2shoez: Originally Posted By Castillo: Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: No No footprint Literally a built in rds up top One solid unit. Interesting I mean people buy these things and proceed to mount a rds to it anyway. Let's all just agree to save a step and have it come as a single piece Eh, I'd skip that, and I don't think it would do all that well. I also think there are some serious production issues with the idea. Two reasons I wouldn't want that: 1. Redundancy. I currently have two separate optics, so a failure of one leaves me with the other still functional. 2. Futureproofing. Modularity allows you options for upgrading down the road. I can put a $200 holosun on it now and replace it with an RMR or even an ACRO later if I decide I want to. Built in removes that snd forces the company to make the decision of what kind of red dot they're going to use. Reasons I don't think it makes sense from a production/business perspective: • More cost to design what is essentially two optics that are integrated to presumably running on a single power source. • No real advantage over two optics. • Increased housing and electrical engineering complexity. • The majority of buyers are currently buying prisms and either running them as stand alone or with an offset dot, so market share is questionable for the amount of investmemt required. |
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Posted: 2/14/2024 5:40:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By keeperofthedew: Eh, I'd skip that, and I don't think it would do all that well. I also think there are some serious production issues with the idea. Two reasons I wouldn't want that: 1. Redundancy. I currently have two separate optics, so a failure of one leaves me with the other still functional. 2. Futureproofing. Modularity allows you options for upgrading down the road. I can put a $200 holosun on it now and replace it with an RMR or even an ACRO later if I decide I want to. Built in removes that snd forces the company to make the decision of what kind of red dot they're going to use. Reasons I don't think it makes sense from a production/business perspective: • More cost to design what is essentially two optics that are integrated to presumably running on a single power source. • No real advantage over two optics. • Increased housing and electrical engineering complexity. • The majority of buyers are currently buying prisms and either running them as stand alone or with an offset dot, so market share is questionable for the amount of investmemt required. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By keeperofthedew: Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: Originally Posted By Castillo: Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: No No footprint Literally a built in rds up top One solid unit. Interesting I mean people buy these things and proceed to mount a rds to it anyway. Let's all just agree to save a step and have it come as a single piece Eh, I'd skip that, and I don't think it would do all that well. I also think there are some serious production issues with the idea. Two reasons I wouldn't want that: 1. Redundancy. I currently have two separate optics, so a failure of one leaves me with the other still functional. 2. Futureproofing. Modularity allows you options for upgrading down the road. I can put a $200 holosun on it now and replace it with an RMR or even an ACRO later if I decide I want to. Built in removes that snd forces the company to make the decision of what kind of red dot they're going to use. Reasons I don't think it makes sense from a production/business perspective: • More cost to design what is essentially two optics that are integrated to presumably running on a single power source. • No real advantage over two optics. • Increased housing and electrical engineering complexity. • The majority of buyers are currently buying prisms and either running them as stand alone or with an offset dot, so market share is questionable for the amount of investmemt required. 100% disagree on all accounts. It's fair if you're not interested. A single piece will be worlds stronger than several pieces put together using mounts and whatnot. And no, the majority of prisms use a top mounted as the acog makes the majority of the prisms on the market. |
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Posted: 2/14/2024 6:02:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoody2shoez: I mean people buy these things and proceed to mount a rds to it anyway. Let's all just agree to save a step and have it come as a single piece I’d want 5x at least for that set up and I’d argue you don’t even need her prism illuminated with a RDS on top |
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Posted: 2/14/2024 6:17:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Castillo: I’d want 5x at least for that set up and I’d argue you don’t even need her prism illuminated with a RDS on top Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Castillo: Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: I mean people buy these things and proceed to mount a rds to it anyway. Let's all just agree to save a step and have it come as a single piece I’d want 5x at least for that set up and I’d argue you don’t even need her prism illuminated with a RDS on top What about instead of a prism it's a lightweight ffp 2-6? Straight body, 30mm obj, 34mm tube, mil based reticle with wind holds, acog style adjustments, with a built in rds up top? Built in mount, etc. Basically a smaller, lighter vcog with a built in rds. Not going down to 1x would eliminate a lot of the issues/complexities lpvo's face I'm not going to lie-if somebody could pull off a lightweight package with premium glass like that I would pay big money. Like March class money |
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Posted: 2/14/2024 11:09:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 0351: Everyone is getting into retro guns. How about retro scopes with ACSS reticles? The two I would love to see: 1) USMC M40A1 Unertl fixed 10x (various reticles) 2) COLT (Japanese mfg.) fixed 4x with Aurora reticle. Something that would look at home on a Mk12 would be great. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 2/16/2024 8:32:47 AM EDT
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Retro is a great idea. It's a shame the 30mm retro red dot clone is discontinued.
They could bring that back in a higher quality spec. I'd also ask that PA bring something like the old ARMS direct carry handle mount for 30mm reddots. |
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USA
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Posted: 2/22/2024 1:17:56 PM EDT
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I would like to see a super compact 1-4 SFP with the nova fiber reticle. Silver and/or gold class. Most of the LPVOs are 9.5-10” long so something like this would be cool if it were to be 7” or less if possible, maybe even go for a 34mm tube if that helps with the FOV and eyebox, but 30mm would be fine if it could work well.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 3/2/2024 12:51:03 PM EDT
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I would like to see a "glx" tier 30mm magnifier with the following features:
-long eye relief -Pegasus Reticle -30mm (aimpoint pattern) body, glx glass -4x or 5x magnification The reason for using 30mm is it would enable you to have a Pegasus reticle that can be rotated properly for use in Unity, Spuhr RDF, or conventional mounts. I think 4x and 5x are the most overlooked mag range and should work well with the Pegasus reticle. Finally, there is a real lack of mid-tier options in the 30mm pattern. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 3/23/2024 2:23:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ex_Sanguine_Nation]
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edit: disregard
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MI, USA
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Posted: 4/1/2024 12:48:50 PM EDT
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Probably mentioned already, but a ring cap mount for the PLX mount that is a 509 footprint.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/2/2024 5:54:20 AM EDT
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I know this isn't Primary Arms (forgive my sin) but this guy explains why larger mag prisms aren't really a thing and won't be any time soon:
 Intro to Prism Scopes: What are they Anyway? I wish they would re-do the 5x micro with a piggyback option built in. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 4/3/2024 3:50:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Bakke1]
[#19]
Is there any hope of a different reticle in the plx?
**edit** when do we get the chance to buy nova plxc? |
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Posted: 4/10/2024 10:19:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bakke1: Is there any hope of a different reticle in the plx? **edit** when do we get the chance to buy nova plxc? We hoping soon! hopefully end of 3rd quarter |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 12:13:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: -OdieGreen-]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpyHawk: I know this isn't Primary Arms (forgive my sin) but this guy explains why larger mag prisms aren't really a thing and won't be any time soon:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78EtShVhVBQI wish they would re-do the 5x micro with a piggyback option built in. Yep. You can’t escape the physics of light gathering. On something like a TA31 the prism is already too big for the body and lens sizes to handle. This is why ACOG’s peak field of view and peak eye box don’t align with eachother. The PA microprisms use smaller likely laser cut prisms so they can align the field of view and eye box using smaller prisms. While this is technically peak prism geometry, the ACOG’s have an immensely larger eye box if you’re willing to work outside of their peak field of view. Most people can’t overcome the psychology of not using the largest viewing area though. I certainly don’t have the expertise of the gentleman in that video, but if you get bored and want to read about why everyone uses ACOG’s wrong and how their prism inefficiency is actually kind of a plus, check out my 3rd post HERE. |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 12:30:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoody2shoez: What about instead of a prism it's a lightweight ffp 2-6? Straight body, 30mm obj, 34mm tube, mil based reticle with wind holds, acog style adjustments, with a built in rds up top? Built in mount, etc. Basically a smaller, lighter vcog with a built in rds. Not going down to 1x would eliminate a lot of the issues/complexities lpvo's face I'm not going to lie-if somebody could pull off a lightweight package with premium glass like that I would pay big money. Like March class money Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoody2shoez: Originally Posted By Castillo: Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: I mean people buy these things and proceed to mount a rds to it anyway. Let's all just agree to save a step and have it come as a single piece I’d want 5x at least for that set up and I’d argue you don’t even need her prism illuminated with a RDS on top What about instead of a prism it's a lightweight ffp 2-6? Straight body, 30mm obj, 34mm tube, mil based reticle with wind holds, acog style adjustments, with a built in rds up top? Built in mount, etc. Basically a smaller, lighter vcog with a built in rds. Not going down to 1x would eliminate a lot of the issues/complexities lpvo's face I'm not going to lie-if somebody could pull off a lightweight package with premium glass like that I would pay big money. Like March class money Both the prism and scope with built in RDS ideas are winners. Sell it with a decent QD mount that doesn't weigh 87lbs too. I'm so over dicking around with 300 different mounts, plates, screws and changing 87 batteries. Same issue with pistol slides not having built in RDS by now. But that's an issue for another thread. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/13/2024 5:26:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: Both the prism and scope with built in RDS ideas are winners. Sell it with a decent QD mount that doesn't weigh 87lbs too. I'm so over dicking around with 300 different mounts, plates, screws and changing 87 batteries. Same issue with pistol slides not having built in RDS by now. But that's an issue for another thread. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: Originally Posted By Castillo: Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: I mean people buy these things and proceed to mount a rds to it anyway. Let's all just agree to save a step and have it come as a single piece I’d want 5x at least for that set up and I’d argue you don’t even need her prism illuminated with a RDS on top What about instead of a prism it's a lightweight ffp 2-6? Straight body, 30mm obj, 34mm tube, mil based reticle with wind holds, acog style adjustments, with a built in rds up top? Built in mount, etc. Basically a smaller, lighter vcog with a built in rds. Not going down to 1x would eliminate a lot of the issues/complexities lpvo's face I'm not going to lie-if somebody could pull off a lightweight package with premium glass like that I would pay big money. Like March class money Both the prism and scope with built in RDS ideas are winners. Sell it with a decent QD mount that doesn't weigh 87lbs too. I'm so over dicking around with 300 different mounts, plates, screws and changing 87 batteries. Same issue with pistol slides not having built in RDS by now. But that's an issue for another thread. I mean, it's not outside the realm of possibility for PA to make an integral optic Glock slide. Not that I want a Glock slide. I'm just saying they could. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 7:37:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoody2shoez: What about instead of a prism it's a lightweight ffp 2-6? Straight body, 30mm obj, 34mm tube, mil based reticle with wind holds, acog style adjustments, with a built in rds up top? Built in mount, etc. Basically a smaller, lighter vcog with a built in rds. Not going down to 1x would eliminate a lot of the issues/complexities lpvo's face I'm not going to lie-if somebody could pull off a lightweight package with premium glass like that I would pay big money. Like March class money Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoody2shoez: Originally Posted By Castillo: Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: I mean people buy these things and proceed to mount a rds to it anyway. Let's all just agree to save a step and have it come as a single piece I’d want 5x at least for that set up and I’d argue you don’t even need her prism illuminated with a RDS on top What about instead of a prism it's a lightweight ffp 2-6? Straight body, 30mm obj, 34mm tube, mil based reticle with wind holds, acog style adjustments, with a built in rds up top? Built in mount, etc. Basically a smaller, lighter vcog with a built in rds. Not going down to 1x would eliminate a lot of the issues/complexities lpvo's face I'm not going to lie-if somebody could pull off a lightweight package with premium glass like that I would pay big money. Like March class money I'd actually prefer a 30mm 2-8 based on the PLXc, and ideally with a mini/micro-RDS footprint machined into the optic body, possibly just forward of the elevation turret. Or a 2-10 on the same architecture, but with a slightly larger objective lens. But I freely admit I'm a sample of 1, and even if such a thing existed I probably wouldn't have the $$ on hand to buy it anyway. Right now I'm looking at the PLXc 1-8 with the Griffin mil-tree for possible short-to-medium range GP bolt gun use. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 8:03:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RifleCal30m1n00b: I'd actually prefer a 30mm 2-8 based on the PLXc, and ideally with a mini/micro-RDS footprint machined into the optic body, possibly just forward of the elevation turret. Or a 2-10 on the same architecture, but with a slightly larger objective lens. But I freely admit I'm a sample of 1, and even if such a thing existed I probably wouldn't have the $$ on hand to buy it anyway. Right now I'm looking at the PLXc 1-8 with the Griffin mil-tree for possible short-to-medium range GP bolt gun use. 2-10 is a great magnification range. A 1-5 double power is kind of a sweet spot. Build in an enclosed RDS on top and it would be amazing. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2024 8:56:50 PM EDT
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Optics that take CR123A/AAA batteries
VCOG-style integral mounts for NOVA scopes A variable-power magnifier QD variations of mounts. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 6:19:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Southdog: Optics that take CR123A/AAA batteries VCOG-style integral mounts for NOVA scopes A variable-power magnifier QD variations of mounts. I used to have the Lucid variable power magnifier. It was not great and kind of soured me on the idea. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/5/2024 9:02:35 PM EDT
[#28]
Anything chance of getting a Gemini or similar reticle in the GLx micro prism?
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Posted: 5/6/2024 9:29:50 AM EDT
[#29]
The Discovery 2024 release of the GLx 1X MP will feature the Cyclops reticle, however, that doesn't mean we won't have something up our sleeve for 2025!
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2024 8:34:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: bruh44]
[#30]
I’d like to see a 1.5x or 2x pistol red dot. I have no idea how many others would be interested. I have an XTen I plan to hunt with. Seems like a 1.5 or 2x unlimited eye relief optic would be ideal for that.
I would think others would be interested just as a range toy depending on price. Circle dot reticle is good for bullet drop. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/9/2024 11:48:25 PM EDT
[#31]
A 3X 22lr prism optic would be great.
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NV, USA
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Posted: 5/10/2024 12:06:37 AM EDT
[#32]
Not trying to be a dick but manufactured anywhere but China.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/10/2024 2:32:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheOldRepublic: Not trying to be a dick but manufactured anywhere but China. That would be ideal. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/13/2024 8:18:38 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bruh44: A 3X 22lr prism optic would be great. I have an SXl 1x Gemini with the 3x magnifier on my M&P15-22. It's an awesome setup. I highly recommend. For plinking just having the 3x microprism would be pretty dang sweet. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/15/2024 7:59:54 PM EDT
[#35]
I’m still hoping for a super compact 2.5-15 or 20 in the platinum or gold line and the nova reticle in all of the prisms.
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Posted: 5/16/2024 7:48:50 PM EDT
[#36]
4x micro prism made literally anywhere but china, with a built in method to piggyback mount a red dot (preferably rmr footprint), good FOV, eye relief, and eyebox.
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