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Originally Posted By tarheel7734: Brownells never shipped out my upper and yesterday arms unlimited sent email said the Colt uppers were in stock so I jumped on it before it was out of stock. 160.00 shipped and will be here Monday. I can start to assemble my upper and hopefully I'll get parts for my lower for Christmas as that is all I had on my list for Christmas. colt upper View Quote If AU ever gets an ad pic posted that's accurate I'll probably shit myself. |
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR: If AU ever gets an ad pic posted that's accurate I'll probably shit myself. View Quote Lol yeah this will most likely be a cage code upper. Only reason I really care is it was only 150.00 and I spent 350 for a new Colt 14.5" socom barrel. Hopefully I have the rifle complete in 4 months. I'm leaving the parts at my parents house and that's probably when I'll be back. |
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Originally Posted By tarheel7734: Brownells never shipped out my upper and yesterday arms unlimited sent email said the Colt uppers were in stock so I jumped on it before it was out of stock. 160.00 shipped and will be here Monday. I can start to assemble my upper and hopefully I'll get parts for my lower for Christmas as that is all I had on my list for Christmas. colt upper View Quote That's a good deal, glad you were patient and waited. |
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Ordered a colt upper, but pretty disappointed it didn't have a cage code or c stamping, but it will still work. All other parts minus optic are ordered, so I should be able to finish it this month.
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Originally Posted By tarheel7734: Ordered a colt upper, but pretty disappointed it didn't have a cage code or c stamping, but it will still work. All other parts minus optic are ordered, so I should be able to finish it this month. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/380981/1000027099_jpg-3063577.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/380981/1000027101_jpg-3063578.JPG Gas buster charging handle was on backorder, so I'll use this one temporarily https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/380981/1000027090_jpg-3063580.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/380981/1000027091_jpg-3063581.JPG View Quote So no cage markings or c stamping for the uppers coming from AU? |
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Originally Posted By tarheel7734: Nope not on this one. Just keyhole forge. View Quote So not to sound shitty but if there’s no markings, how do you know it’s a Colt and not just a standard milspec upper? I only say this as AU has been known in the past to fuck around with parts and pawn stuff off as Colt that’s not Colt. Personally, no cage code or “C” and I’m not buying it. I mean if it’s no more than a milspec upper, no biggie but I’m sure as shit not paying AU a premium for a non marked upper. |
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Originally Posted By JSPA: So not to sound shitty but if there’s no markings, how do you know it’s a Colt and not just a standard milspec upper? I only say this as AU has been known in the past to fuck around with parts and pawn stuff off as Colt that’s not Colt. Personally, no cage code or “C” and I’m not buying it. I mean if it’s no more than a milspec upper, no biggie but I’m sure as shit not paying AU a premium for a non marked upper. View Quote Unfortunately Colt does not appear to be marking uppers any more at least not consistently. Not really sure how else to tell if it’s Colt or something else. If it’s got a dust cover and forward assist there is a difference in the staked dust plunger vs commercial most others use. The FA also has a roll pin holding the cap. I do agree about AU. They have sold me non Colt detents and springs passed off as Colt recently. |
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Originally Posted By stickyheat: Unfortunately Colt does not appear to be marking uppers any more at least not consistently. Not really sure how else to tell if it’s Colt or something else. If it’s got a dust cover and forward assist there is a difference in the staked dust cover plunger vs commercial most others use. The FA also has a roll pin holding the cap. View Quote From Colt you will see BAFE (Square) forge and Cerro (Keyhole) forge. With and without a C or 13629 CAGE code. I have new factory Colts that have neither a C or CAGE code. If you buy it commercially and not on a military or LE contract, its a roll of the dice on what you will get. |
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Originally Posted By JSPA: So not to sound shitty but if there’s no markings, how do you know it’s a Colt and not just a standard milspec upper? I only say this as AU has been known in the past to fuck around with parts and pawn stuff off as Colt that’s not Colt. Personally, no cage code or “C” and I’m not buying it. I mean if it’s no more than a milspec upper, no biggie but I’m sure as shit not paying AU a premium for a non marked upper. View Quote Well fortunately it was only 150.00 which is less than everyone eles premium. As stated, it's a gamble no matter where you get a colt if it will be marked or not. It did have the forward assist and the dust cover with it. Rest of parts should be here tomorrow or Sat. Hopefully can build it after Christmas. |
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I think the only other modern company I’ve seen use the same dust cover is BCM. They use a different spring for the dust cover though.
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Originally Posted By JSPA: So not to sound shitty but if there’s no markings, how do you know it’s a Colt and not just a standard milspec upper? I only say this as AU has been known in the past to fuck around with parts and pawn stuff off as Colt that’s not Colt. Personally, no cage code or “C” and I’m not buying it. I mean if it’s no more than a milspec upper, no biggie but I’m sure as shit not paying AU a premium for a non marked upper. View Quote It should, at minimum, be dry film lubed interior and be M4 marked above the gas tube hole. I've seen them sans CAGE /C markings. Sans T-markings. I've only come across one sans dry film (pretty sure that was a fuck up as it was CAGE marked). I have not seen one minus the M4 marking at gas tube hole. |
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR: It should, at minimum, be dry film lubed interior and be M4 marked above the gas tube hole. I've seen them sans CAGE /C markings. Sans T-markings. I've only come across one sans dry film (pretty sure that was a fuck up as it was CAGE marked). I have not seen one minus the M4 marking at gas tube hole. View Quote I have a couple of Colt uppers with no 'M4' marking also. |
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Mine has zero key hole, m4 marl and is dr film coated inside.
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Originally Posted By Minuteman1636: I have a couple of Colt uppers with no 'M4' marking also. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Minuteman1636: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: It should, at minimum, be dry film lubed interior and be M4 marked above the gas tube hole. I've seen them sans CAGE /C markings. Sans T-markings. I've only come across one sans dry film (pretty sure that was a fuck up as it was CAGE marked). I have not seen one minus the M4 marking at gas tube hole. I have a couple of Colt uppers with no 'M4' marking also. Do they have M4 ramps? Where do you get all of the cool shit? |
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Originally Posted By Minuteman1636: I will have to look and see if they have M4 ramps. Just a couple of commercial guns without some markings. Doesn't rank as cool in my book. Lol. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Minuteman1636: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Do they have M4 ramps? Where do you get all of the cool shit? I will have to look and see if they have M4 ramps. Just a couple of commercial guns without some markings. Doesn't rank as cool in my book. Lol. Well....if they are not M4 cut, then that explains that! Edit: Seriously though, if they are and are not M4 stamped I'd be interested to know. Like I said, I've not come across one yet. But, then again, Colt's ~ consistency.....so not hand in hand. |
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR: It should, at minimum, be dry film lubed interior and be M4 marked above the gas tube hole. I've seen them sans CAGE /C markings. Sans T-markings. I've only come across one sans dry film (pretty sure that was a fuck up as it was CAGE marked). I have not seen one minus the M4 marking at gas tube hole. View Quote If you do get one without the M4 marking check feed ramps. Should be none for a rifle (M16A3/4) |
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: If you do get one without the M4 marking check feed ramps. Should be none for a rifle (M16A3/4) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: It should, at minimum, be dry film lubed interior and be M4 marked above the gas tube hole. I've seen them sans CAGE /C markings. Sans T-markings. I've only come across one sans dry film (pretty sure that was a fuck up as it was CAGE marked). I have not seen one minus the M4 marking at gas tube hole. If you do get one without the M4 marking check feed ramps. Should be none for a rifle (M16A3/4) Absolutely. |
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Originally Posted By Minuteman1636: Colt is putting M4 feed ramps in all 5.56mm firearms. Makes production simple. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Minuteman1636: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Absolutely. Colt is putting M4 feed ramps in all 5.56mm firearms. Makes production simple. That'll bork up the cloner plans. |
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR: That'll bork up the cloner plans. View Quote What doesn't screw up their plans? Lol Obviously government/LE contracts could be done differently. Both of my AR-15A4's, commercial guns, both have M4 feed ramps. Me personally, I don't care because the feed ramps help reliability. |
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Originally Posted By Minuteman1636: What doesn't screw up their plans? Lol Obviously government/LE contracts could be done differently. Both of my AR-15A4's, commercial guns, both have M4 feed ramps. Me personally, I don't care because the feed ramps help reliability. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Minuteman1636: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: That'll bork up the cloner plans. What doesn't screw up their plans? Lol Obviously government/LE contracts could be done differently. Both of my AR-15A4's, commercial guns, both have M4 feed ramps. Me personally, I don't care because the feed ramps help reliability. Aren't all Colt AR15A4s M4 ramped, I understood this to be across the board and nothing new? Much like the omission of F stampings on FSB. All flat tops/all M4 ramped. Barring .gov/LE possibilities as you stated. |
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Aren't all Colt AR15A4s M4 ramped, I understood this to be across the board and nothing new? Much like the omission of F stampings on FSB. All flat tops/all M4 ramped. Barring .gov/LE possibilities as you stated. View Quote No, last I checked they are different NSN for rifle ramp vs carbine (2019 dated TM). Barrel extension are different on 20” vs 14.5/11.5/10.3” |
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: No, last I checked they are different NSN for rifle ramp vs carbine (2019 dated TM). Barrel extension are different on 20” vs 14.5/11.5/10.3” View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: Aren't all Colt AR15A4s M4 ramped, I understood this to be across the board and nothing new? Much like the omission of F stampings on FSB. All flat tops/all M4 ramped. Barring .gov/LE possibilities as you stated. No, last I checked they are different NSN for rifle ramp vs carbine (2019 dated TM). Barrel extension are different on 20” vs 14.5/11.5/10.3” I see 3 20" barrel w/extension entries, didn't see any NSN assigned in TM. (?) I see 2 flat top upper receivers listed, differing NSNs assigned. Which verifies the .gov/LE exceptions as Minuteman1636 stated. |
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Forward assist is another way to id a Colt, i believe they all have a roll pin on the assist. Stag does too but many don't. Unmarked cerro Colts are correct for Mod H and Rolex Guy Geissele rails builds. I guess from buying them commercially, from Brownells?
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I've got really crap luck. I just purchased what was supposed to be a new Colt bcg off the ee and of course there are no c markings on it either. Bolt is mpc marked. No donut. Don't remember when they had them.
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You don't need a o-ring (donut) on the spring with the new Colt extractor springs. If I remember correctly, the Colt Gold springs were first introduced in the 2004 time period but took significantly longer to get to civilian hands.
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Pardon the mess, doing it in the living room while everyone opens up presents.
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Originally Posted By tarheel7734: Pardon the mess, doing it in the living room while everyone opens up presents. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/380981/1000027238_jpg-3070615.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/380981/1000027239_jpg-3070616.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/380981/1000027240_jpg-3070617.JPG I'll take it out to shed and torque everything later.. View Quote Nice Christmas present! |
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Originally Posted By Deadsquiggles: Well I wasn't planning on building a Block 1 but I guess now I'm obligated to, right? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/430237/IMG_9261_jpeg-3070632.JPG View Quote I met the guy who invented them. He's at a machine shop in PA :) U must :) |
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Originally Posted By Deadsquiggles: Even re-found a M951 on an ARMS mount in my safe. Now I really have to do it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Deadsquiggles: Originally Posted By HaveBlue83: U got yerself a 1005-01-484-8000 !!! I met the guy who invented them. He's at a machine shop in PA :) U must :) Even re-found a M951 on an ARMS mount in my safe. Now I really have to do it. Nice!! I’ve got the same on mine, as I had on my actual M4 in Iraq. Apart from a third pin, pinned flash hider, and an N1 stock (my s/n was W0105xx!), that thing is as close to the real McCoy as possible. You can’t go wrong with a block 1! Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Wubbman: Nice!! I’ve got the same on mine, as I had on my actual M4 in Iraq. Apart from a third pin, pinned flash hider, and an N1 stock (my s/n was W0105xx!), that thing is as close to the real McCoy as possible. You can’t go wrong with a block 1! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/66756/IMG_6289_jpeg-3075025.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Wubbman: Originally Posted By Deadsquiggles: Originally Posted By HaveBlue83: U got yerself a 1005-01-484-8000 !!! I met the guy who invented them. He's at a machine shop in PA :) U must :) Even re-found a M951 on an ARMS mount in my safe. Now I really have to do it. Nice!! I’ve got the same on mine, as I had on my actual M4 in Iraq. Apart from a third pin, pinned flash hider, and an N1 stock (my s/n was W0105xx!), that thing is as close to the real McCoy as possible. You can’t go wrong with a block 1! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/66756/IMG_6289_jpeg-3075025.JPG And you've got the DFAC grip. |
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Any reference pics or known use of a black exps3-0 and a 4 prong? My heart says do it, but the cLoNeR says no
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I've got one of those Cerro Forged non C and M4 marked Colts and I thinks it's clean as hell and would make a perfect Mod H clone Upper.................It's been well documented they are all over the place with markings the last year or so
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Added an aimpoint pro with the comp m2 covers for the battery and adjustment knobs. Still need the rubber band for the covers though. Hopefully I'll have it in a few days. Also changed my optic on my block II to a razor gen III.
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Still not shot my block 1, but debating on picking up an ta31 for it instead of the aimpoint I currently have as my eyes are not like what they used to be. In the past I loved the ta01nsn I had in Afghanistan, but I like the idea of the illum reticle all the time.
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Originally Posted By tarheel7734: Still not shot my block 1, but debating on picking up an ta31 for it instead of the aimpoint I currently have as my eyes are not like what they used to be. In the past I loved the ta01nsn I had in Afghanistan, but I like the idea of the illum reticle all the time. View Quote Thats why I have my TA31. Also works great at dawn and dusk when hunting. |
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Originally Posted By tarheel7734: Do you prefer the ta31-ch woth the crosshairs like the ta0-1-nsn or the ta-31f with the chevron? View Quote Have only used the TA01NSN and TA-31F. Used the TA01NSN from 95-08', triduum goes dead in reticle after 10 yrs. I purchased a TA-31F and with the fiber optic, its always bright. |
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