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Link Posted: 1/17/2015 7:47:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JJREA:
Dang, that would make me very nervous to be walking in front of all of them.
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If you look carefully, you'll notice they are all on "safe" & there are no magazines in any of those rifles either.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 6:38:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
http://www.me.ngb.army.mil/img/archives/2009/07/IMG_1189.jpg


If you look carefully, you'll notice they are all on "safe" & there are no magazines in any of those rifles either.
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http://www.me.ngb.army.mil/img/archives/2009/07/IMG_1189.jpg
Originally Posted By JJREA:
Dang, that would make me very nervous to be walking in front of all of them.


If you look carefully, you'll notice they are all on "safe" & there are no magazines in any of those rifles either.


I could give a shit less.  It only takes one ying yang not thinking to spoil a persons day.   I'm sure they know what they're doing.  I'm just saying I would totally be uncomfortable standing in front of all them.  God bless them.  I'm sure they check them well and are safe, but dang.  They deserve a medal to just be doing that job of training.
Link Posted: 2/6/2015 4:42:45 PM EDT
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Mexican special forces 727 carbine:

Note A2 upper with what looks to be an A1 lower
Link Posted: 2/28/2015 9:10:32 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/1/2015 2:37:29 PM EDT
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AF refurb issued to me at BAF in 2011



Link Posted: 3/2/2015 4:16:11 PM EDT
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Beautiful mutt.
Link Posted: 3/11/2015 3:22:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By stikbass:
AF refurb issued to me at BAF in 2011

<a href="http://s195.photobucket.com/user/stikbass/media/143aafc2-5a89-46c1-9e59-769d9c726bdc.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z250/stikbass/143aafc2-5a89-46c1-9e59-769d9c726bdc.jpg</a>

<a href="http://s195.photobucket.com/user/stikbass/media/8e003097-9284-4ccf-bd51-23d1e1e1d74a.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z250/stikbass/8e003097-9284-4ccf-bd51-23d1e1e1d74a.jpg</a>
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I had an A2 issued to me as late as late 2010/Early 2011. Was issued an m4 right before I transferred.

Nice mutt though
Link Posted: 4/6/2015 10:58:40 PM EDT
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Found these of Brazilian Police rocking some A2 SBR's












Link Posted: 4/24/2015 5:05:49 PM EDT
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Colt Alpha Deuce with M203

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Originally Posted By xoldsmugglerx:


Mexican special forces 727 carbine:



Note A2 upper with what looks to be an A1 lower

http://i.imgur.com/JDS64VQ.jpg
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Mexicam FX-05s in the wild too.

 
Link Posted: 7/13/2015 12:21:15 AM EDT
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Mexican Federale with a Colt 727 carbine.

Link Posted: 8/8/2015 8:08:44 AM EDT
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Spotted this afternoon in a pax terminal headed to Iraq belonging to 1st AD.  They had quite a few of these done.  Shotgunned the action open and looked at the buffer.  Its something new to me "H6".  Felt lighter then a "H2" buffer.  Seems TACOM got these 20" guns running with the carbine stock.






CD
Link Posted: 8/8/2015 1:56:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Spotted this afternoon in a pax terminal headed to Iraq belonging to 1st AD.  They had quite a few of these done.  Shotgunned the action open and looked at the buffer.  Its something new to me "H6".  Felt lighter then a "H2" buffer.  Seems TACOM got these 20" guns running with the carbine stock.


http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/IMG_0733_rz.jpg



CD
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Nice find CD! Supposedly the H6 buffer is the same weight as a rifle buffer, so im sure that was their reasoning. Should run the same with the H6 as it did with a rifle stock/tube. Lets hope anyway.
Link Posted: 8/8/2015 2:10:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:

Nice find CD! Supposedly the H6 buffer is the same weight as a rifle buffer, so im sure that was their reasoning. Should run the same with the H6 as it did with a rifle stock/tube. Lets hope anyway.
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Spotted this afternoon in a pax terminal headed to Iraq belonging to 1st AD.  They had quite a few of these done.  Shotgunned the action open and looked at the buffer.  Its something new to me "H6".  Felt lighter then a "H2" buffer.  Seems TACOM got these 20" guns running with the carbine stock.


http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/IMG_0733_rz.jpg



CD

Nice find CD! Supposedly the H6 buffer is the same weight as a rifle buffer, so im sure that was their reasoning. Should run the same with the H6 as it did with a rifle stock/tube. Lets hope anyway.


The soldier I talked to stated it ran fine for him before he deployed with it.

CD
Link Posted: 8/8/2015 2:16:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:


The soldier I talked to stated it ran fine for him before he deployed with it.

CD
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Spotted this afternoon in a pax terminal headed to Iraq belonging to 1st AD.  They had quite a few of these done.  Shotgunned the action open and looked at the buffer.  Its something new to me "H6".  Felt lighter then a "H2" buffer.  Seems TACOM got these 20" guns running with the carbine stock.


http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/IMG_0733_rz.jpg



CD

Nice find CD! Supposedly the H6 buffer is the same weight as a rifle buffer, so im sure that was their reasoning. Should run the same with the H6 as it did with a rifle stock/tube. Lets hope anyway.


The soldier I talked to stated it ran fine for him before he deployed with it.

CD

Before the legit conversion was around, I wonder what buffers they used to try to get it to run.
My guess would be car or H. (I cant even imagine the effects of being THAT overgassed)
Link Posted: 8/8/2015 3:54:56 PM EDT
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Learn something new every day.......  H6...
Link Posted: 8/9/2015 11:00:19 PM EDT
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The most distinctive thing about the H6 is that it is supposed to use six, rather than three reciprocating weights.  

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=db60ef5f99161a44b4accbfa719ee654&_cview=1

It would appear that the government expects to pay about $25 each, per H6 buffer (maximum 20,000 units for a maximum $500,000 increase to final contract value).  

http://damageindustriesllc.com/product/buffer-recoil-carbine-h6

http://damageindustriesllc.com/product/h6-buffer-upgrade-kit

The Canadians used the H2 or "HH" buffer in their C7A2s, and some M16A2s have been seen using the sliding buttstock assembly and H2 buffers as well.  

~Augee
Link Posted: 8/10/2015 9:19:14 PM EDT
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The only time I ever saw the A2 20" upper with collapsable stock was in basic and only a few had them. Was a few years back but I think they had H2 buffers in them, not H6.
Link Posted: 8/10/2015 11:01:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BePhreed:
The only time I ever saw the A2 20" upper with collapsable stock was in basic and only a few had them. Was a few years back but I think they had H2 buffers in them, not H6.
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If you read that solicitation I posted (not that I'm saying that anyone was required to read it - just pointing out for everyone's SA ) - it notes that the H6 buffer was a contract amendment to the original contract for the sliding buttstock assembly.  

It points out that the dollar amount of the contract amendment is low enough that it did not require an open competition for an "improved buffer," which doubtless would have cost hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars more...

It also notes that the H6, at least at the time (2009) was only approved for use with M16A2 uppers - and had not been tested with the M4/M4A1, and was not to be used as a replacement until further testing was conducted (I have not been able to find out whether or not such testing has been conducted - though I would assume it's likely become redundant with the adoption service-wide of the M4A1/RO921HB with the H2 buffer).  

Earlier conversions appear to have been done with the H2 buffer.  

~Augee
Link Posted: 8/11/2015 9:10:47 PM EDT
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Wasn't doubting you in the least bit but rather just pointing out what I had seen. I should have been more clear.
Link Posted: 8/11/2015 10:14:40 PM EDT
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Didn't think you were, just clarifying the most likely reason for it.  

~Augee
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I'm guessing 733's? with collection of fiberlite, waffle stocks and fat handguards. They all look the same barrel length not like chopped various barrels of IDF Metuz'rar carbines
 
Link Posted: 10/25/2015 7:36:13 PM EDT
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did some googlin' about the BOPE featured in the above pics, found a video of them doing maneuvers in preparation for the 2014 World Cup. Some decent close shots of their A2 carbines. Most of them appear to be running EOs on their carry handle, hell most look like they have 2 pos receiver extentions (most carbines appear fully open or closed positions)

One is shown close up with "Colt's MFG Co. Inc" roll marked on the left side with what looks like a S-1-F FCG. Some rifles appear to have A2 lower reinforcements.







Sorry for the rambling detail, I spend most of my time in the retro forum I'm planning to do an A2 10.5 SBR so I thought I'd pass along my observations to anyone who else might be planning something similar.




LINK TO THE VIDEO:




https://youtu.be/ViC18RXQ8fo
Link Posted: 10/27/2015 2:18:36 PM EDT
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I have no clue.  I just downloaded it from a google search.
Link Posted: 10/29/2015 3:12:12 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/2/2015 5:50:13 PM EDT
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I apologize if this is an A4.  I can't really tell.  

Link Posted: 11/2/2015 5:54:31 PM EDT
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It looks like an A2 to me.
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 6:05:06 PM EDT
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It looks like an A2 to me.
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It looks like an A2 to me.


It is an A2.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 2:14:58 PM EDT
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I thought so too, but wasn't sure.  Thank you.
Link Posted: 11/3/2015 6:21:31 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/3/2015 8:38:56 PM EDT
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Operation Desert Shield









































Link Posted: 11/4/2015 3:40:31 PM EDT
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Great pics!!!!

Link Posted: 11/4/2015 9:12:52 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/11/2015 2:38:24 PM EDT
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20 round mags??????

Link Posted: 11/11/2015 5:04:23 PM EDT
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You can still find 20rd magazines floating around in the inventory.  On my last deployment I routinely had a 20rd magazine in my rifle and 30rd magazines in my vest pouches while on mission.
Link Posted: 11/11/2015 7:19:03 PM EDT
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Interesting.  I did not know that.  I don't think I've seen too many pics if any of guys with M4's and 20 round mags.....
Link Posted: 11/12/2015 1:19:23 AM EDT
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I had 2 during my last deployment.  I might still have them
Link Posted: 11/13/2015 10:26:02 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/14/2015 1:31:46 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JJREA:
Interesting.  I did not know that.  I don't think I've seen too many pics if any of guys with M4's and 20 round mags.....
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Carried couple 20s with me every deployment.  Usually range practice for service rifle competition, combat/diving swimming (you don't kick it), airborne ops (20s fit inside the weapon inside a M1950 weapons case, no go on a 30) and when seated inside a armored vehicle with the muzzle down between your legs.  The 20 doesn't bang your knees!





CD
Link Posted: 11/14/2015 1:32:49 PM EDT
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Makes sense.  I prefer them too!  For my High Drag Low Speed operating.

Link Posted: 11/14/2015 9:31:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:



Carried couple 20s with me every deployment.  Usually range practice for service rifle competition, combat/diving swimming (you don't kick it), airborne ops (20s fit inside the weapon inside a M1950 weapons case, no go on a 30) and when seated inside a armored vehicle with the muzzle down between your legs.  The 20 doesn't bang your knees!

http://www.hunt101.com/data/548/9809gun_rack_resized.JPG



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Originally Posted By JJREA:
Interesting.  I did not know that.  I don't think I've seen too many pics if any of guys with M4's and 20 round mags.....



Carried couple 20s with me every deployment.  Usually range practice for service rifle competition, combat/diving swimming (you don't kick it), airborne ops (20s fit inside the weapon inside a M1950 weapons case, no go on a 30) and when seated inside a armored vehicle with the muzzle down between your legs.  The 20 doesn't bang your knees!

http://www.hunt101.com/data/548/9809gun_rack_resized.JPG



CD


Love that picture ... thanks for sharing CD

ETA:  The AK looks like a Bulgarian with Milled receiver.  I'd heard that Uncle Sugar bought a bunch of these Bulgy's with Steyr cold-hammer forged barrels for our boys.  But no one could confirm.
Link Posted: 11/15/2015 2:36:45 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Pro2ndAm:


Love that picture ... thanks for sharing CD

ETA:  The AK looks like a Bulgarian with Milled receiver.  I'd heard that Uncle Sugar bought a bunch of these Bulgy's with Steyr cold-hammer forged barrels for our boys.  But no one could confirm.
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Originally Posted By JJREA:
Interesting.  I did not know that.  I don't think I've seen too many pics if any of guys with M4's and 20 round mags.....



Carried couple 20s with me every deployment.  Usually range practice for service rifle competition, combat/diving swimming (you don't kick it), airborne ops (20s fit inside the weapon inside a M1950 weapons case, no go on a 30) and when seated inside a armored vehicle with the muzzle down between your legs.  The 20 doesn't bang your knees!

http://www.hunt101.com/data/548/9809gun_rack_resized.JPG



CD


Love that picture ... thanks for sharing CD

ETA:  The AK looks like a Bulgarian with Milled receiver.  I'd heard that Uncle Sugar bought a bunch of these Bulgy's with Steyr cold-hammer forged barrels for our boys.  But no one could confirm.



It is a Bulgarian (circle 10) AK that was bought for equipping the Iraqis.  We gave some to our own contracted security force that we vetted, trained and used (not a QRF).  Didn't know that about the barrels, but can't confirm as I had that gun in 05-06'.


CD
Link Posted: 11/19/2015 5:26:09 PM EDT
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