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Posted: 2/22/2017 12:07:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: m1awolf]
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Two carriers are packaged up and waiting on UPS for pickup this morning,I have also sent an IM with serial#'s of carriers and tracking# from the call tag.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/22/2017 9:02:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Z09SS:
As I said, "wait and see". I think he can make a fair case that despite their putting "freedom" on the invoice, such a designator didn't exist when he ordered. There were just blem and non-blem barreled receivers. We'll see. This is the kit I ordered. The SKU has since been scrubbed from the Palmetto website, but here's still evidence out there. Like I said, mine never specified what "level" it was at. So I'll definitely post up what I end up with. |
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Posted: 2/22/2017 10:25:16 PM EDT
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Right now he's getting frustrated that he's got a tracking number, but it's not active.
I told him to not worry. I have a parts kit here that shows up as "processing" on my order page. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 5:54:56 PM EDT
[#4]
Sooo- were the carriers sent out today? or should I come back Monday and ask?
Thanks- |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 8:00:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Z09SS]
[#5]
I like this system. I mention he's freaking out and a tracking number appears like magic!
His kits are actually pretty nice for blem. The gas tubes are tighter than... <metaphor not found> Some material needs to come off the front of the tube or you're beating that thing off the gun. With handguards in place, there's no place to bear on with the beating tool. The gas-tube latch is also super tight. The magazine catches were both too long and wouldn't latch on any magazine we had, and he's got a bunch from every nation from years of neckbearding them. Some gentle time with a file fixed it. I'm not even upset, it's a blem kit! I went into this assuming that some fitting would have to be done because it's both a kit and a blemish. I don't think I had to do too much to get his gun together for him. I am hoping that Palmetto is reading this as feedback so they can make their product better and not taking it as sour grapes. The machining under for the bolt carrier looks much better than I've seen on one person's who's getting his whole kit replaced. On par with a Yugo we had handy. 
We had zero problems with the lower handguard retainer's slot. It doesn't look doubled at all to me. 
It went together very smoothly and as long as it zeros we're happy. 
We are ticked off at how Magpul attaches that stock. The weld nuts are too light a grade and the screws are just a bit too short to bite in properly with all that loctite stuff on them. The front screw sits proud of its recess and the recoil spring guide sticks a bit on it. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 8:03:03 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MaxFubar:
This is the kit I ordered. The SKU has since been scrubbed from the Palmetto website, but here's still evidence out there. Like I said, mine never specified what "level" it was at. So I'll definitely post up what I end up with. That sku has been discontinued, and is no longer available to order, so it was removed from the website. The kits that replaced it are very clear on the product specs so the customer is not confused as to what they are receiving. |
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Posted: 2/24/2017 8:09:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PalmettoStateArmory]
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bwc_oh33:
Sooo- were the carriers sent out today? or should I come back Monday and ask? Thanks- If you have sent one back, IM me your order number and I will be happy to give you an update on your carrier. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 2/25/2017 12:07:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Z09SS:We are ticked off at how Magpul attaches that stock. The weld nuts are too light a grade and the screws are just a bit too short to bite in properly with all that loctite stuff on them. The front screw sits proud of its recess and the recoil spring guide sticks a bit on it. Ditto on that. The way its designed, there's actually a lot of stress on those 2 sissy little t-nuts. When one of them (the rear one) finally stripped out, the stock went all floppy on me. You can tighten the really long screw inside the stock and get rid of the wobble, but once that weld nut is stripped out, the stock will only tighten up with a lot of droop to it. Picture the stock tilting down towards the floor 10 degrees. I called Magpul up and the lady sent me out 2 replacement nuts for free. That's cool, but they replacements don't look much different than the original ones. I'll probably have to find some better t-nuts or keep calling them every 6 months for extras. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 2:21:59 AM EDT
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And now there are two!
Both kits needed the same work on the magazine latch and gas tube. No biggie, it made the project more fun. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 9:59:07 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Z09SS:
And now there are two! https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3685/32944243722_bdfbc0824c_b.jpg Both kits needed the same work on the magazine latch and gas tube. No biggie, it made the project more fun. Can you elaborate on where exactly you filed the catch? All my yugo's are extremely tight, 1 Russian waffle goes but with a good slam on the bottom, same for the Bakelite I have. Another polish mag has zero chance of sitting. Great looking rifles by the way, digging the plum- |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 2/25/2017 10:33:57 AM EDT
[#11]
What cleaning rod work with PSA AK47? What is the proper thead on end of rod?
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PA, USA
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Posted: 2/25/2017 10:43:49 AM EDT
[#12]
I had this problem with my Magpul stock also. Replaced rear screw with a stainless 10-32 screw that was very similar to what I think was a 10-24 screw. Fits in hole nicely. Ordered a square 10-32 stainless nut. Had to mill nut down to .105 to enter slot properly. You could properly do this with course sandpaper but it will take awhile. Now stock is rock solid. Much better than Magpul hardware.
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Posted: 2/25/2017 11:31:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Z09SS]
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bwc_oh33:
Can you elaborate on where exactly you filed the catch? All my yugo's are extremely tight, 1 Russian waffle goes but with a good slam on the bottom, same for the Bakelite I have. Another polish mag has zero chance of sitting. Great looking rifles by the way, digging the plum- Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bwc_oh33:
Can you elaborate on where exactly you filed the catch? All my yugo's are extremely tight, 1 Russian waffle goes but with a good slam on the bottom, same for the Bakelite I have. Another polish mag has zero chance of sitting. Great looking rifles by the way, digging the plum- I am a deft hand with a Dremel. I used one of the small mushroom shaped grinder tips. The flat underside fits over the top of the latch and you grind down away from the gun. We did not take much off at all, 1/64" at most, to go from nothing latched to getting a firm 'click' and no wobble when latched. Originally Posted By deider:
What cleaning rod work with PSA AK47? What is the proper thead on end of rod? The rod in the plum one is a 15-5/8" long one from a Yugo SKS. We've got two 15-3/4" rods on order from Numrich coming which should fit. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 11:35:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: m1awolf]
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Z09SS:
I like this system. I mention he's freaking out and a tracking number appears like magic! His kits are actually pretty nice for blem. The gas tubes are tighter than... <metaphor not found> Some material needs to come off the front of the tube or you're beating that thing off the gun. With handguards in place, there's no place to bear on with the beating tool. The gas-tube latch is also super tight. The magazine catches were both too long and wouldn't latch on any magazine we had, and he's got a bunch from every nation from years of neckbearding them. Some gentle time with a file fixed it. I'm not even upset, it's a blem kit! I went into this assuming that some fitting would have to be done because it's both a kit and a blemish. I don't think I had to do too much to get his gun together for him. I am hoping that Palmetto is reading this as feedback so they can make their product better and not taking it as sour grapes. The machining under for the bolt carrier looks much better than I've seen on one person's who's getting his whole kit replaced. On par with a Yugo we had handy. https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2694/32281824123_188fbec3f4_b.jpg We had zero problems with the lower handguard retainer's slot. It doesn't look doubled at all to me. https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2789/32251329614_b6c19d3cab_b.jpg https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3903/33055036396_5d4d54c4ff_b.jpg It went together very smoothly and as long as it zeros we're happy. https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2554/33055039716_be1a03be04_b.jpg We are ticked off at how Magpul attaches that stock. The weld nuts are too light a grade and the screws are just a bit too short to bite in properly with all that loctite stuff on them. The front screw sits proud of its recess and the recoil spring guide sticks a bit on it. That carrier looks like it has some sort of coating on it,guncoat,alumahide,ceracote? krylon  ? got any more pics? and what is it covering up?.....cast or forged?
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Posted: 2/25/2017 11:42:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m1awolf:
That carrier looks like it has some sort of coating on it,guncoat,alumahide,ceracote? krylon ? got any more pics? and what is it covering up?.....cast or forged?
It looks cast to me, but it could be the texture of the coating. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 8:34:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Jfor]
[#17]
So I got an email from Joe at PSA last night. They have asked for me to send the whole rifle back for them to make sure everything is ok once they replace the carrier.
ETA - I see on AKfiles that a bunch folks there got the same thing. |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 9:29:49 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jfor:
So I got an email from Joe at PSA last night. They have asked for me to send the whole rifle back for them to make sure everything is ok once they replace the carrier. ETA - I see on AKfiles that a bunch folks there got the same thing. I got a phone call today,along with a direct number to the rep...no more waiting on hold 
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Posted: 2/25/2017 10:08:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m1awolf:
I got a phone call today,along with a direct number to the rep...no more waiting on hold I just hope they ain't gonna do to me like they did to MelD over there and just keep the rifle and refund my purchase price. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 2/25/2017 10:43:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: giantpune]
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By deider:
What cleaning rod work with PSA AK47? What is the proper thead on end of rod? This is the one I got and it works fine. He's all sold out, but maybe having it for reference help you. https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campId=5337559805&toolId=10001&customId=izm2s6b3zr00zk8a00004&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F271751567146 |
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Posted: 2/25/2017 10:59:56 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m1awolf:
I got a phone call today,along with a direct number to the rep...no more waiting on hold yep, he called me today. i called him back a few hours later to ask a few more questions. three rings and "hello this is Joe". I was pretty shocked that was a direct number. so they're wanting to make sure the new carriers fit the receivers. if they don't, they will try to find one that will. if they can't make it work, they'll call and see what you want to do. supposedly a 1 day turn around, but i assume that will only be the case if it fits and there is no other issues. this is what i was told. i get the feeling that they have a good hunch that these carriers won't work. |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 8:34:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: bwc_oh33]
[#22]
I'll be sending in my whole built out gun. I'm not messing with taking it all down. If the carrier doesn't fit, then they have the whole gun to replace for me. If they want to go ahead and upgrade me to the premium barreled receiver I think we can work something out
Edit: just went through the PSA thread on akfiles...a little worried now we may just be handed a refund, which in that case I will be very unhappy- Really hoping PSA takes care of us. |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 10:38:13 AM EDT
[#23]
I got the same call yesterday. I was told I didn't have to remove the furniture, but I may remove the stock so it'll fit in the same box the barreled receiver came in (I don't want to have to find a new box that'll fit the whole rifle). Since I have to send it in, I'm going to point out some other little issues I've noticed. I installed an ALG recoil spring and high energy main spring when I assembled everything, so I'm wondering if I should replace those with the stock PSA springs before sending it back.
I'm glad they're standing behind their product. I just hope everything gets fixed this time. |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 10:51:08 AM EDT
[#24]
This is where my buddy starts getting nervous and worries that they're going to say he voided the warranty by fixing the magazine catch.
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Posted: 2/26/2017 11:27:09 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Z09SS:
This is where my buddy starts getting nervous and worries that they're going to say he voided the warranty by fixing the magazine catch. That is such a minor fix, and a common one at that I hope they would not hold that against him. It seems they're having way bigger problems to worry about. I hope we are not looking at months before a resolution is come up with. |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 11:48:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bwc_oh33:
I'll be sending in my whole built out gun. I'm not messing with taking it all down. If the carrier doesn't fit, then they have the whole gun to replace for me. If they want to go ahead and upgrade me to the premium barreled receiver I think we can work something out
Edit: just went through the PSA thread on akfiles...a little worried now we may just be handed a refund, which in that case I will be very unhappy- Really hoping PSA takes care of us. This. |
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Posted: 2/26/2017 12:22:06 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m1awolf:
This. I am hoping this will not be the case. Not trying to spread rumors or anything, but I think it would be very deceptive if they were to just hand us a refund and not provide a replacement kit and barreled receiver or a whole rifle for that matter. Like I said, they will be receiving my whole gun, not just the stripped barreled receiver. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 2/27/2017 9:40:14 AM EDT
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Just arrived this Friday. Only problem that I had was some parts missing for Magpul butstock. Was able to make a new one at work. Described process on previous post.
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Posted: 2/27/2017 11:50:10 AM EDT
[#29]
Well- Just got my call tag to send the rifle in for repair. Now I just need to wait for my foam lined shipping case to get here. Hopefully we see a quick turnaround time and I get my gun back next week. I'll keep this updated to follow the process.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/27/2017 1:23:53 PM EDT
[#30]
Ordered a Blem Freedom build kit with the Moekov and a red stock kit. Received the Moekov & wood stock set within a week, the barreled receiver 4 days later. Did order an ALG AKT-UL fcg, their wound trigger spring and recoil spring. Had a VERY minor issue with an otherwise outstanding build. The countersink for the screw that fits the 'puzzle piece' into the rear trunion to mount the stock was a fudge shallow-easily fixed and the recoil spring assembly now clears the screw head. Easy enough. The sling mount is on the lower handguard locking front piece. I could find no 'blem' but apparently PSA felt there was something-me? Not so much. Fit and finish are very good, outside of the shallow countersink. It is a cast bolt carrier and appears to be of high quality. I grew up in machine shops and that's not a deal breaker for me, a good cast forging is a durable part. You want machined billet steel, be ready to pony up. As PSA starts gearing up we'll see if they offer an upgrade, that seems where they're headed. Making their parts interchangeable for a 'new' American Standard AK. It seems like PSA is looking up to be a major player in the AK field and are getting their act together. Robski mentioned they bought DDI, that's a commitment there folks. I like what I see so far, just be a trifle patient. Went to the range yesterday and it ran over 200 rounds without a hiccup. I have to say even with my eyesight at 100 yds and using iron sights I was impressed, everything inside of the outer bull ring of a standard 100 yd target. Feel like once I get used to these sights I'll do better, this was the first time I've shot an AK. I feel I got a good basic firearm for the $379.00 for the barreled receiver. Keep up the good work PSA.
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Posted: 3/1/2017 11:18:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: bwc_oh33]
[#31]
Just sent my gun in- Hoping for a quick turn around time so I can enjoy it finally!!! Let's keep this thread updated guys, especially when people start receiving their rifles back (or not).
Edit: just saw on akfiles that a new carrier was shipped back to a member- looks 100000x times better than that cast shit. Hopes are running high here that they are making this right for us! |
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Posted: 3/1/2017 8:37:01 PM EDT
[#32]
My receiver was delivered to PSA at 9:30 this morning and I received an email (with tracking number) at 2:30 this afternoon stating everything was on its way back. I can't complain about a 5 hour turnaround.
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Posted: 3/1/2017 9:36:19 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Beclyn:
My receiver was delivered to PSA at 9:30 this morning and I received an email (with tracking number) at 2:30 this afternoon stating everything was on its way back. I can't complain about a 5 hour turnaround. Be sure to post pics man! Let's see that carrier |
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Posted: 3/1/2017 10:54:06 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bwc_oh33:
Be sure to post pics man! Let's see that carrier Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bwc_oh33:
Originally Posted By Beclyn:
My receiver was delivered to PSA at 9:30 this morning and I received an email (with tracking number) at 2:30 this afternoon stating everything was on its way back. I can't complain about a 5 hour turnaround. Be sure to post pics man! Let's see that carrier Near the bottom of page 34. One guy has his back and posted picks. Night and day difference in carriers plus two AKpmags as promised. If all the rifles/carriers that have been returned get the same I will be very happy with PSA's efforts to make things right. AK files pic's near bottom of page 34 I dropped mine and my coworkers receivers off at the local UPS store last night,still no updated tracking on it 
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Posted: 3/1/2017 11:54:37 PM EDT
[#35]
That carrier looks WAY better. I will be very pleased if everything goes smoothly. I would even consider looking at their premium or CHF barreled receiver for a next purchase. I've also been waiting for the Atlantic Firearms polish barreled receiver, but PSA may still edge them out for me (considering all goes well!)
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Posted: 3/2/2017 1:30:25 PM EDT
[#36]
Mine looks like the other carrier posted - way better. They were very generous with the lube/grease lol. I'll try to get some pics and shoot a little this weekend after I clean it up some. They did include 2 pmags and a chamber flag. So far, I'm happy with everything.
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Posted: 3/2/2017 1:39:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bwc_oh33]
[#37]
My package was delivered to PSA at 9:30 am this morning
- starting to get excited to finally have my first AK back!
edit: was really hoping I would receive a tracking number today with that 1 day turnaround....I guess they still have time, keeping my fingers crossed!! Welp, no tracking number
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Posted: 3/6/2017 1:28:04 PM EDT
[#38]
Happy to report my rifle came in today with the new forged carrier. Looks WAY better than the cast one previously sent. Also got my two pmags. I appreciate PSA making this right for me and providing the parts I believed I was getting. Now I just need to find some time and get out and shoot. I'll update the thread with round count and pictures after I'm able to get out.
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Posted: 3/7/2017 3:04:11 AM EDT
[#39]
Nice! I look forward to reading your range report!
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Posted: 3/7/2017 9:00:44 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jekbrown:
Nice! I look forward to reading your range report! Hopefully be able to get out this weekend! I'll post pics of the carrier, bolt and internals w/ round count- |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/7/2017 3:53:57 PM EDT
[#41]
Finally got a shipping confirmation on my barreled receiver. Ordered back on 2/7 and shipped yesterday 3/6. Should be in by Thursday. I will post pics once received. Per the conversations I've had, I should be getting one with all the forged goodies.
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Posted: 3/8/2017 11:34:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: m1awolf]
[#42]
Tracking shows that my
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Posted: 3/8/2017 12:42:10 PM EDT
[#43]
Mine departed Nashville this morning. Will be at PSA tomorrow.
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Posted: 3/9/2017 6:49:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: m1awolf]
[#44]
I just saw this posted over on AKfiles
Without any notice, my FFL just called me that my replacement barreled receiver had arrived. Will be picking it up later today and hope that everything is good this time. Don't know if they included any extra goodies in the package but I know for sure I'll be out another $25 transfer fee. WTF, I was told by Joe that these would be returned to you directly so no additional FFL fees would be imposed. Unless I am mistaken and he was shipped replacement receiver and not his original that had been refit with a new carrier. |
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Posted: 3/9/2017 7:03:44 PM EDT
[#45]
My rifle was received at PSA today.
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Posted: 3/9/2017 11:19:02 PM EDT
[#46]
I think the guy over on the files had to get a replacement, not just a repair (New serial number). I was able to sneak out on lunch today and hit the farm to put two mags through the rifle. Not one hiccup. Went bang every time. I'm hoping to get a couple hundred rounds through it this weekend. After that, I'll post some pics. So far, so good.
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Posted: 3/10/2017 1:46:16 PM EDT
[#47]
Both carriers were returned today with no advance UPS tracking supplied,not complaining about that at all. Received by PSA Wed morning back in our hands Friday,100% + improvement on the carriers as witnessed by previous pics . Like others have also reported no mags as promised unless they have shipped separately
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Posted: 3/10/2017 10:37:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: m1awolf]
[#48]
And the saga continues....When we got the receivers w/new carriers back today we just gave them a quick once over to check out the new carriers. When we went to put them back together tonight both were missing the pistol grip base/block/nut that we had returned with the receiver. If you look back at my post about our build,you will see that we had to tap/drive them into place as they were such a tight fit. looks like I will be sending Joe a text in the morning about this and the promised mags that we didn't get. Other than that the new carriers look great.
Our build post |
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Posted: 3/11/2017 1:17:16 AM EDT
[#49]
Here's a question for PSA...
Let's say they decide that you ordered a Freedom kit and won't upgrade you for free. How much does it cost to upgrade? |
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Posted: 3/11/2017 1:09:43 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Z09SS:
Here's a question for PSA... Let's say they decide that you ordered a Freedom kit and won't upgrade you for free. How much does it cost to upgrade? They are selling forged carriers for 99 bucks. They are showing as it if stock however. |
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