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Posted: 5/8/2024 2:36:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: wheel]
Disenchanted people looking for a simpler more conservative life. They've grown disillusioned with Trump.
"MAGA voters have explained why they turned their backs on the US for a new life in Russia, claiming the former communist state is a, 'positive vision of 1950s America'. Conservative men have cited the country's Christian values, beautiful women and stunning scenery as reasons behind their move. After losing faith in their hero Donald Trump, some have moved as far east as Siberia, unfazed by the prospect of being led by an autocratic dictator. They have even expressed admiration for Vladimir Putin, choosing to believe his narrative about his decision to invade Ukraine. 'I think he's a good man,' ex-pat Peter Frohwein, 62, told the Free Press. 'This lie that he's somehow a dictator—just because he was in the KGB doesn't mean he's ever killed anybody.' Frohwein is divorced with no kids, but has hopes of starting up a family. He moved from Atlanta to Yalta in the Crimea in July 2023. 'Twenty percent of the women could be supermodels,' he said, explaining he anticipates his children would speak three languages: English, Russian and Mandarin. 'I wouldn't seriously consider starting a family in the U.S. today,' he added. 'The U.S. is a political mess. Socially, things are a mess. Spiritually, things are a mess.' Bernd Ratsch, 56, agrees with this assessment of US politics and moved to Moscow from Texas in 2019. 'Is Trump better than Biden? Of course. But do I want him? Would I vote for him again? No. It's just, "Boy, shut your mouth for a while,"' he explained. Meanwhile, family man Joseph Rose has managed to carve out a career with his YouTube channel documenting his new life in Moscow. 'I would say that Russia is becoming a bastion of Christianity and that America is becoming the opposite of this,' Rose explained. 'I do think it was God leading me to where I needed to be right now. I was put in a spot where I could be used.' https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13396031/MAGA-voters-moving-Russia-conservative-values.html . |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 5:53:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/8/2024 5:54:56 PM EDT
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Those putin lovers will end up getting tenderly kissed by UA drones.
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Posted: 5/8/2024 5:55:36 PM EDT
[#3]
Some of you have difficulty recognizing made-up, propagandist’s bull-shit.
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Posted: 5/8/2024 5:57:07 PM EDT
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I’m sure tens of people have done that.
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Posted: 5/8/2024 6:03:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Makarov: Some of you have difficulty recognizing made-up, propagandist’s bull-shit. I have no doubt there are people who have actually moved to Russia of their own accord. There are people who thought moving to North Korea was a good idea too, and actually followed through. Propaganda value notwithstanding, I see this as validation of the Carlin Hypothesis. |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 6:03:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LowBeta]
[#6]
I'm only interested in one thing.
 and biakal kvas. |
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NM, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2024 6:25:16 PM EDT
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Do people believe this shit?
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Posted: 5/8/2024 6:28:29 PM EDT
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IL, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2024 6:34:26 PM EDT
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Seems like most posters here aren’t falling for it, but for anyone who wants to go on such an adventure, this may come in handy:
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/07/21/a-guide-to-giving-a-bribe-in-russian-a81922 |
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USA
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Posted: 5/8/2024 6:55:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iggy1337: Russia has absolutly no history of killing western usefull idiots that drink the coolaid move there I actually knew (FoF) of a guy whose family did exactly that - his grandfather moved in the 1930s to United States to USSR. Ended up being executed as a spy, his family got split up, kids went into orphanages...anyway, his grandson immigrated back to United States first chance he could in the 1990s. Smart guy, got a degree, worked as a software developer, made damn good money ....then got into trouble with the IRS and ran back to Russia. Now he lives in a one bedroom apartment in Moscow with peeling paint and water leaks. I think he got the genes for making bad choices from his grandpa. |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 8:02:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stickfigure: Do people believe this shit? I doubt it long term. With no local friends/support they tend to fail irrespective of the country. With local support they stand a lot larger chance to move. I have family in Germany and "adopted family" in Russia. Late cousin married a German woman. She acclimated well. Lot of support. Let's see how Russians view moving to the US. Keep in mind that the lady is an American and the family moved with support of a blended family.  WOULD RUSSIANS LIVE IN THE USA? ???????? |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2024 8:18:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ninjaman: Just more Democrat lies. The liberal leftist bullshit machine is in high gear! Joseph Goebbels, Joseph Stalin and Heinrich Himmler would be proud! |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 8:20:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 56xdx_Z]
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: What purpose does it serve for liberals to claim MAGA's are moving to Russia. What purpose does it serve for Russia to claim MAGA's are moving to Russia. (Keeping in mind this is a well established tactic they've used many times before in slightly varying forms). You see how this is essentially the same message right?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK0yl0_PdDYETA - if your point is that liberals will make fun of idiot MAGA's that move to Russia then sure. The larger point is these handful of fools move to Russia in the first place because they're dumb enough to believe Russian propaganda. I think the headline serves the interests of liberals, because of how it specifically characterizes MAGA and links it with Russia in peoples minds. So it serves as 'evidence' of the fake collusion narrative. If it was russian propaganda, I think it would probably look more like this: https://www.rt.com/russia/597079-british-soldier-russian-army/, notice how it doesnt focus on him being conservative party or any of the internal politics stuff, it characterizes him as being british and then upset over banderists burning people alive in odessa. |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 8:25:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Glock63]
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 bastion of Christianity and freedom lol. Farewell you stupid fucking simpletons. All 10 of them. Nobody with an IQ over room temp believes this shit.
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Posted: 5/8/2024 8:29:27 PM EDT
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MSM has been the death of this country. People fall for any news title, hook line and sinker.
When AI gets it's hooks in things are going to go completely off the rails. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2024 8:31:37 PM EDT
[#16]
Like full on 1950’s US…?
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Posted: 5/8/2024 8:35:08 PM EDT
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lol
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USA
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Posted: 5/8/2024 8:35:51 PM EDT
[#18]
A Trump bashing article masquerading as a story about moving to Russia.
Total BS. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2024 9:29:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gelandewagen: Propa Propa Propaganda.... No kidding. No Trump voters I know of have abandoned this country for Russia. None. They're all invested in this country and working to make it better. A few fools that might have voted for him but have turned on him may have run to Russia, but those are Never Trumpers. |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 9:32:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoodonit00: Oh bullshit. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2024 9:34:01 PM EDT
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Idiots
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Posted: 5/8/2024 9:39:15 PM EDT
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Having lived in Siberia for several years, the biggest and most disgusting lie that article tells is in regards to the women there. 20% supermodels my ass.
More like 40%, then another 40% being a 7 or above in most western countries. Also, I can count on my fingers the number of female fatties I saw, and all but two of them were senior citizens. [InsertweshouldinvadeRussiaandtaketheirwomencat.jpg] |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 9:43:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cyclone]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Krater: I actually knew (FoF) of a guy whose family did exactly that - his grandfather moved in the 1930s to United States to USSR. Ended up being executed as a spy, his family got split up, kids went into orphanages...anyway, his grandson immigrated back to United States first chance he could in the 1990s. Smart guy, got a degree, worked as a software developer, made damn good money ....then got into trouble with the IRS and ran back to Russia. Now he lives in a one bedroom apartment in Moscow with peeling paint and water leaks. I think he got the genes for making bad choices from his grandpa. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Krater: Originally Posted By iggy1337: Russia has absolutly no history of killing western usefull idiots that drink the coolaid move there I actually knew (FoF) of a guy whose family did exactly that - his grandfather moved in the 1930s to United States to USSR. Ended up being executed as a spy, his family got split up, kids went into orphanages...anyway, his grandson immigrated back to United States first chance he could in the 1990s. Smart guy, got a degree, worked as a software developer, made damn good money ....then got into trouble with the IRS and ran back to Russia. Now he lives in a one bedroom apartment in Moscow with peeling paint and water leaks. I think he got the genes for making bad choices from his grandpa. Quite a few people who went over for Ford to set up their automotive plants in the 20s and 30s were disappeared or refused the right to leave...........many were killed Anyone who did move, whether true or not, is a fool |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 9:44:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikedamon: What’s their ARF screen name? Theresurrector 
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Posted: 5/8/2024 9:45:26 PM EDT
[#25]
Yeah, no.
No way in hell. |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 9:45:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Tuco22]
[#26]
As was mentioned earlier in the thread we literally had a member here do just that, even posted about how much better it was over there.
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Posted: 5/8/2024 9:47:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Admiral_Crunch: IDontBelieveYou.gif Sure, out of 350 million people, you can probably find 2-3. But a trend it ain’t. And they sure as hell aren’t going to be MAGA types. The Arfcom guy who moved to russia was. He stated he was upset over how America was going. There’s also the active duty army guy who was a trump guy and thought nato was an aggressor and went to Russia..subsequently got arrested. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2024 9:47:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Master_Shake: We all know what MAGA stands for, how stupid would you have to be to assume that moving to Russia is somehow making America great I expect that if someone is really dumb enough to think that Russia is a better place to live than America and goes there, then America is made better by their departure... |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2024 9:50:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fishing_cabin: I doubt it long term. With no local friends/support they tend to fail irrespective of the country. With local support they stand a lot larger chance to move. I have family in Germany and "adopted family" in Russia. Late cousin married a German woman. She acclimated well. Lot of support. Let's see how Russians view moving to the US. Keep in mind that the lady is an American and the family moved with support of a blended family. Almost a million Russians live in the US. According to the search results, there are approximately 896,026 Russians living in the United States as of 2020. It’s worth noting that the search results also mention that there are around 5,000 American citizens living in Russia, but this number is likely referring to American citizens who are temporarily or permanently residing in Russia, rather than the total number of Americans living in Russia. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2024 9:53:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tuco22: As was mentioned earlier in the thread we literally had a member here do just that, even posted about how much better it was over there. And he's what, gone? AR15.com is a banned site there and they have also banned VPNs. Soooo |
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USA
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Posted: 5/8/2024 9:55:30 PM EDT
[#31]
Biden admin/criminal conspirators looking for a place to retire after working to destroy America for the commies?
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Posted: 5/8/2024 9:57:01 PM EDT
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So there's like 4 people?
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Posted: 5/8/2024 9:57:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: What purpose does it serve for liberals to claim MAGA's are moving to Russia. What purpose does it serve for Russia to claim MAGA's are moving to Russia. (Keeping in mind this is a well established tactic they've used many times before in slightly varying forms). You see how this is essentially the same message right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK0yl0_PdDYETA - if your point is that liberals will make fun of idiot MAGA's that move to Russia then sure. The larger point is these handful of fools move to Russia in the first place because they're dumb enough to believe Russian propaganda. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By 56xdx_Z: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: I am, we just disagree on the goal of such an article. Considering this story is right in line with Russian propaganda- even directly from Putin's mouth and advertisements from Russian sources directed at Americans. It seems more likely that this is in fact Russian propaganda, not liberals trying to somehow associate conservatives with Russia which really serves no purpose for them, and sadly conservatives seem to do well enough on their own anyway. I don't think anyone is falling for the part in bold What purpose does it serve for liberals to claim MAGA's are moving to Russia. What purpose does it serve for Russia to claim MAGA's are moving to Russia. (Keeping in mind this is a well established tactic they've used many times before in slightly varying forms). You see how this is essentially the same message right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK0yl0_PdDYETA - if your point is that liberals will make fun of idiot MAGA's that move to Russia then sure. The larger point is these handful of fools move to Russia in the first place because they're dumb enough to believe Russian propaganda. It’s certainly in line with the Democrat “Russia collusion “ nonsense and consistently supports the propaganda they’ve been doing since 2016 |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 10:12:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikedamon: What’s their ARF screen name? nomadekib |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 10:16:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Tuco22]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gelandewagen: And he's what, gone? AR15.com is a banned site there and they have also banned VPNs. Soooo Probably why he's not around anymore, doesn't change the fact he posted what he did. Maybe you're implying he, or i, are full of shit? Only place i know to read his posts anymore are in the early pages of the main Ukraine thread. |
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MS, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2024 10:19:51 PM EDT
[#36]
Well, Russia is no longer Communist so you know no Biden supporters would want to move there.
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Posted: 5/8/2024 10:21:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Alacrity]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikedamon: What's their ARF screen name? |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 10:25:00 PM EDT
[#38]
So two dudes? One wouldn't even vote for trump again and the other wants a hot wife.
Sure sure |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 10:25:36 PM EDT
[#39]
In other fake news.....
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Posted: 5/8/2024 10:50:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikedamon: What’s their ARF screen name? Holy crap, some of you just can't help yourselves, can you? Should we all start asking when you and your boys are going to Ukraine to fight your war? |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2024 11:03:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tuco22: Probably why he's not around anymore, doesn't change the fact he posted what he did. Maybe you're implying he, or i, are full of shit? Only place i know to read his posts anymore are in the early pages of the main Ukraine thread. Not implying anything. Just stating if he's not around anymore that's likely why. I think the VPN law got passed in '21 or '22. |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 11:04:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Thunder900: That is just as dumb as Queers for Palestine. 'Christians' idolizing a Communist regime.  Attached FileRussia hasn’t been ‘Communist’ for at least 30 years. |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 11:38:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dabster: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/tarn-1226108-887.jpg Russia hasn’t been ‘Communist’ for at least 30 years. Oddly, while I am no fan of Russia, it certainly seems they are actually less Socialist than we are at this point. Far more openly corrupt. But less socialist. |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 11:45:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gelandewagen: Propa Propa Propaganda.... |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 11:46:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Master_Shake: This was posted about a half a year ago. It hits all the tropes I mean even the name of the YT channel is "Russian Code" so I didn't take it too seriously but this is the closest I've found to the article. We all know what MAGA stands for, how stupid would you have to be to assume that moving to Russia is somehow making America great https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i5s7rlffBQThat - or really this is made up smear campaign propaganda on an election year |
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Posted: 5/8/2024 11:48:40 PM EDT
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1950's soviet union, how's the food lines doing?
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Posted: 5/8/2024 11:54:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanKulak: Tempting, but Russia has a history of eventually going crazy drunken uncle on outside ethnic groups it invites in. Ask the Volga Germans how that worked out. Plenty of Americans as well. The Ford employees that were still in the Soviet Union when Henry Ford walked away from the plant he built there, the 100,000 Americans that accepted Stalin's invitation to immigrate during the depression, lend-lease sailers, Russel Bentley, и так далее. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 9:44:25 AM EDT
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You can tell any story about people you want if the criteria is that you only need find a couple of examples. There's billions of us.
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ME, USA
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Posted: 5/9/2024 9:51:49 AM EDT
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I've worked with a few Americans who lived and worked in Russia for years.
They were fine. It's just another country. Some of you need to turn off your TV and leave your mom's basement more often. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 9:55:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ben: Oddly, while I am no fan of Russia, it certainly seems they are actually less Socialist than we are at this point. Far more openly corrupt. But less socialist. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ben: Originally Posted By Dabster: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/tarn-1226108-887.jpg Russia hasn’t been ‘Communist’ for at least 30 years. Oddly, while I am no fan of Russia, it certainly seems they are actually less Socialist than we are at this point. Far more openly corrupt. But less socialist. this seems like a distinction without a difference |
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