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Originally Posted By eagarminuteman: I'll have to drag the wife up there to check it out. She asked me recently where I wanted to end up. I said wherever we can find a house and I can find work. View Quote https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/703-4th-Ave-Edgemont-SD-57735/242584229_zpid/ |
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Originally Posted By wareagle30: It’s already ruined. I’m looking at leaving for Wyoming. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By wareagle30: Originally Posted By GomerPyle: If they ruin Montana, that will be quite an accomplishment. It’s already ruined. I’m looking at leaving for Wyoming. Its getting pretty damn bad. |
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Originally Posted By RikWriter: I live half an hour from Cody. There's plenty of places available out here, though they are going to run you $500-700K if you want a nice house with some acreage around it. You can get land a lot cheaper than that, of course, and build your own. View Quote I’ll have to keep that in mind. If I can find work out there once I graduate, that would be a win in my book. Always liked Cody and the surrounding towns. |
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Originally Posted By AbleArcher: Tourists are responsible for the problem? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AbleArcher: Originally Posted By 49north: It can't start snowing soon enough to hide the stench. Maybe city officials could tax the tourists more to pay for this mess since it's them and the newcomers responsible for this problem. Tourists are responsible for the problem? Californians selling their 3/2 ranch for $2,000,000 and moving to Montana, Idaho, Arizona, Colorado, Texas, Georgia, Tennessee or any other red or formally red state and pricing locals out of the market either via sale prices or raising tax values. Locusts who should be made to stay in the rotten bed they shit. |
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Originally Posted By eagarminuteman: I’ll have to keep that in mind. If I can find work out there once I graduate, that would be a win in my book. Shay’s liked Cody and the surrounding towns. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By eagarminuteman: Originally Posted By RikWriter: I live half an hour from Cody. There's plenty of places available out here, though they are going to run you $500-700K if you want a nice house with some acreage around it. You can get land a lot cheaper than that, of course, and build your own. I’ll have to keep that in mind. If I can find work out there once I graduate, that would be a win in my book. Shay’s liked Cody and the surrounding towns. Ooh, finding work is the hard part. That's why a lot of the residents in Bozeman are priced out--the only jobs available are tourism and service. |
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Originally Posted By ar15robert: big money moving in buy it cheap then a few years later wonder why the town has no employees or bus open anymore.Seen it in other towns where money comes in buys or starts a business charges the prices they did in CA but pay the local wages then again wonder why employees are gone View Quote It’s happening everywhere. |
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Originally Posted By MtnMusic: This house was just listed for $810k. https://photos.zillowstatic.com/fp/2a229fadb01aaad3df55df3b825f4937-cc_ft_768.webp View Quote LOL! The coming crash is going to be biblical. |
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Originally Posted By OscarD: Californians selling their 3/2 ranch for $2,000,000 and moving to Montana, Idaho, Arizona, Colorado, Texas, Georgia, Tennessee or any other red or formally red state and pricing locals out of the market either via sale prices or raising tax values. Locusts who should be made to stay in the rotten bed they shit. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By OscarD: Originally Posted By AbleArcher: Originally Posted By 49north: It can't start snowing soon enough to hide the stench. Maybe city officials could tax the tourists more to pay for this mess since it's them and the newcomers responsible for this problem. Tourists are responsible for the problem? Californians selling their 3/2 ranch for $2,000,000 and moving to Montana, Idaho, Arizona, Colorado, Texas, Georgia, Tennessee or any other red or formally red state and pricing locals out of the market either via sale prices or raising tax values. Locusts who should be made to stay in the rotten bed they shit. You DO know that a lot of Californians are very conservative and hate what's happened to their state, right? Do you want to punish them because they got outvoted? |
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Originally Posted By Bourbonator: That's a nice looking $100k home View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Bourbonator: Originally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: Originally Posted By Liberty_Tree: Interested. What's the address? https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/617-N-Willson-Ave-Bozeman-MT-59715/74929238_zpid/ That's a nice looking $100k home Somewhere in its price history it will say $12,000. |
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Originally Posted By RikWriter: Ooh, finding work is the hard part. That's why a lot of the residents in Bozeman are priced out--the only jobs available are tourism and service. View Quote Well I could always attempt to find remote too. Mechanical engineering is always gonna be marketable. And if that don’t work I’ll learn a trade or something. |
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Originally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/617-N-Willson-Ave-Bozeman-MT-59715/74929238_zpid/ View Quote $873/sqft What type of retard pays that much for a cracker box built in the 30’s? |
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Originally Posted By eagarminuteman: Well I could always attempt to find remote too. Mechanical engineering is always gonna be marketable. And if that don't work I'll learn a trade or something. View Quote https://www.newyorker.com/news/dept-of-energy/the-great-electrician-shortage |
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Originally Posted By Deadtired: I'm confused. Are these people that DID have homes in Bozeman, but then rent went up and they couldn't afford them? Or are these homeless people that were going to be homeless anywhere, but Bozeman is a nice place for your cousin with the truck to drop your shitbox trailer off at? Also, why is it ALWAYS a Nissan Versa? View Quote Californian buys the house Nextdoor for four times what it sold for ten years ago. Repeat the process five or six times on your street and now what was $100k house is a $400k dollar house. Somebody born and raised in that community making a salary appropriate to area now cannot afford to purchase or rent a home there. Somebody who already owned a home there can’t keep up with rising property tax values and is forced to sell. |
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Originally Posted By stickfigure: Most of Montana just doesn't have the infrastructure for this many people, most of the big towns don't have by-passes to move traffic around them. Secondly everyone who thinks they are going to move here and "buy a few acres, just out of town". No, no you're not, that train left the station 20 years ago. Same with everyone who thinks they are going to live down a gravel road 20 miles out of town and just go in for supplies once a month. All those gravel roads are full of people with their Toyotas and Subarus who drive to town everyday for Starbucks, and blow all the roads out. Bozeman is going to be at 100% production and construction capacity for the next 6 years trying to keep up with projected growth, and all the rest of the surrounding communities, don't really have solid plans on how to deal with all the people. The biggest barrier to more people trying to move here, is that the current infrastructure won't allow it and the cost is only going to make it worse. View Quote You’ve forgotten horses in your calculus. Everyone coming out of CA has promised their daughter a horse on their huge 2 acre ranchette. Horse prices in the rest of the west are stupid as a result. $60k for a busted down “ranch” horse. LOL. |
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Originally Posted By BTccw: You’ve forgotten horses in your calculus. Everyone coming out of CA has promised their daughter a horse on their huge 2 acre ranchette. Horse prices in the rest of the west are stupid as a result. $60k for a busted down “ranch” horse. LOL. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BTccw: Originally Posted By stickfigure: Most of Montana just doesn't have the infrastructure for this many people, most of the big towns don't have by-passes to move traffic around them. Secondly everyone who thinks they are going to move here and "buy a few acres, just out of town". No, no you're not, that train left the station 20 years ago. Same with everyone who thinks they are going to live down a gravel road 20 miles out of town and just go in for supplies once a month. All those gravel roads are full of people with their Toyotas and Subarus who drive to town everyday for Starbucks, and blow all the roads out. Bozeman is going to be at 100% production and construction capacity for the next 6 years trying to keep up with projected growth, and all the rest of the surrounding communities, don't really have solid plans on how to deal with all the people. The biggest barrier to more people trying to move here, is that the current infrastructure won't allow it and the cost is only going to make it worse. You’ve forgotten horses in your calculus. Everyone coming out of CA has promised their daughter a horse on their huge 2 acre ranchette. Horse prices in the rest of the west are stupid as a result. $60k for a busted down “ranch” horse. LOL. And yet everyone out here still has horses. I don't know how they afford it. Not rich Californians, either. Talking locals who work regular jobs. |
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Originally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: northwestern energy is screaming for people in BZN. and i refuse to do it, because fuck bozeman. View Quote Attached File |
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Originally Posted By RikWriter: You DO know that a lot of Californians are very conservative and hate what's happened to their state, right? Do you want to punish them because they got outvoted? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By OscarD: Originally Posted By AbleArcher: Originally Posted By 49north: It can't start snowing soon enough to hide the stench. Maybe city officials could tax the tourists more to pay for this mess since it's them and the newcomers responsible for this problem. Tourists are responsible for the problem? Californians selling their 3/2 ranch for $2,000,000 and moving to Montana, Idaho, Arizona, Colorado, Texas, Georgia, Tennessee or any other red or formally red state and pricing locals out of the market either via sale prices or raising tax values. Locusts who should be made to stay in the rotten bed they shit. You DO know that a lot of Californians are very conservative and hate what's happened to their state, right? Do you want to punish them because they got outvoted? Doesn’t seem to have been the case in Arizona or Colorado. |
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Originally Posted By Rem700PSS: Bozeman is far worse than Missoula now. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Rem700PSS: Originally Posted By eagarminuteman: Have you seen Missoula? I dropped my daughter off at the Bozeman airport not that long ago. It was the first time I'd spent more than a few minutes in the town in 2 years and I was amazed how much had changed in just that short of a period of time. That city is crazy. |
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Originally Posted By OscarD: Doesn’t seem to have been the case in Arizona or Colorado. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By OscarD: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By OscarD: Originally Posted By AbleArcher: Originally Posted By 49north: It can't start snowing soon enough to hide the stench. Maybe city officials could tax the tourists more to pay for this mess since it's them and the newcomers responsible for this problem. Tourists are responsible for the problem? Californians selling their 3/2 ranch for $2,000,000 and moving to Montana, Idaho, Arizona, Colorado, Texas, Georgia, Tennessee or any other red or formally red state and pricing locals out of the market either via sale prices or raising tax values. Locusts who should be made to stay in the rotten bed they shit. You DO know that a lot of Californians are very conservative and hate what's happened to their state, right? Do you want to punish them because they got outvoted? Doesn’t seem to have been the case in Arizona or Colorado. Which part? Them being outvoted or them moving? Because I can see people in CO and AZ not moving because they still hold out hope things will change. CA is beyond hope. |
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View Quote used to do hard time with his brother in missoula. goes like this: construction manager: so, we still need some help in bozeman. JLP3: i know, sizzlechest. and i still ain't coming to BZN. |
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Originally Posted By RikWriter: Ooh, finding work is the hard part. That's why a lot of the residents in Bozeman are priced out--the only jobs available are tourism and service. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By eagarminuteman: Originally Posted By RikWriter: I live half an hour from Cody. There's plenty of places available out here, though they are going to run you $500-700K if you want a nice house with some acreage around it. You can get land a lot cheaper than that, of course, and build your own. I’ll have to keep that in mind. If I can find work out there once I graduate, that would be a win in my book. Shay’s liked Cody and the surrounding towns. Ooh, finding work is the hard part. That's why a lot of the residents in Bozeman are priced out--the only jobs available are tourism and service. Totally, the 16k student university has no economic impact on jobs. |
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Originally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: i know northwestern's construction manager in BZN. used to do hard time with his brother in missoula. goes like this: construction manager: so, we still need some help in bozeman. JLP3: i know, sizzlechest. and i still ain't coming to BZN. View Quote Surprised you didn’t tell him to buy you a few more harbor freight tarps and you would consider it. |
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Originally Posted By GarandM1: The general Rule of Thumb when moving out West is if a town is next to or near a national park, a ski resort or recreation area, or has a university then the Californians have already ruined it and you can't afford to live there. You look for an old mill town that has fallen on hard times, or someplace where agriculture or timber are the main industries. Yeah, you'll have to sometimes put up with methheads or illegals but at least it will keep the rich liberals at bay. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By GarandM1: Originally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman: I won't even mention the names of the towns I'm considering moving to anymore, for sake of ruining another cool place. I remember Bozeman in the 90s. It's unrecognizable when I drive through it anymore. You look for an old mill town that has fallen on hard times, or someplace where agriculture or timber are the main industries. Yeah, you'll have to sometimes put up with methheads or illegals but at least it will keep the rich liberals at bay. The biggest factor I see is being within about 2 hrs of an airport with commercial flights. Wealthy folks don’t want to deal with a vacation house they can’t get to easily, or live in an area where it’s overly difficult to jet to NY or LA. All the areas I’m comsidering are a major PITA to get to. I’m praying it stays that way for next 10 years. |
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Originally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: nailed it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: Originally Posted By RedAngus: That's 1/3 off the median. So, there's still deals to be found You’d jump on it in a Nu Yawk minute if it came with a dishwasher (Steph Chung or LBP), wouldn’t you? Don’t bullshit me, Hoss! |
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Originally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: best i can do is an airstream in the pahkin' lot at work. https://images.plex.tv/photo?size=large-1920&scale=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Fimage.tmdb.org%2Ft%2Fp%2Foriginal%2FmT1nNikSCwz250HvW8QlOnMjthy.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: Originally Posted By eagarminuteman: Surprised you didn't tell him to buy you a few more harbor freight tarps and you would consider it. best i can do is an airstream in the pahkin' lot at work. https://images.plex.tv/photo?size=large-1920&scale=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Fimage.tmdb.org%2Ft%2Fp%2Foriginal%2FmT1nNikSCwz250HvW8QlOnMjthy.jpg Some days that sounds like paradise. |
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Originally Posted By RedAngus: You'd jump on it in a Nu Yawk minute if it came with a dishwasher (Steph Chung or LBP), wouldn't you? Don't bullshit me, Hoss! View Quote i doubt i'd qualify for that much mortgage. can steph chung and/or LBP shovel snow and butcher an elk? well that and my dream has always been to purchase a 4/3 house in a college town, live in the unfurnished basement, and rent the bedrooms out to bicurious college cheerleaders and/or college gymnast chicks and/or college rower chicks to cover the rent. |
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Originally Posted By exponentialpi: Some days that sounds like paradise. View Quote he has a KLR on the back of the short bus to we talk KLRs. happiest sumbitch i've met in a long time. |
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Originally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman: The biggest factor I see is being within about 2 hrs of an airport with commercial flights. Wealthy folks don't want to deal with a vacation house they can't get to easily, or live in an area where it's overly difficult to jet to NY or LA. All the areas I'm comsidering are a major PITA to get to. I'm praying it stays that way for next 10 years. View Quote problem solved, problem staying solved. |
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My dad grew up in and around Bozeman. Used to be a place for anyone. Now it's only afforable for rich socialites.
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Originally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: just pick somewhere shitty like eastern WY or eastern south dakota or nebraska or kansas or missouri. problem solved, problem staying solved. View Quote Eastern WY might be it. As long as I qualify for resident WY hunting licenses, I’ll be happy. Buffalo or Sheridan seem nice. |
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Originally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman: Eastern WY might be it. As long as I qualify for resident WY hunting licenses, I'll be happy. Buffalo or Sheridan seem nice. View Quote too close to the mountains to be cheap. not shitty enough to be cheap. i'm thinking like pine bluffs, gillette, or torrington. |
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Originally Posted By OscarD: Californians selling their 3/2 ranch for $2,000,000 and moving to Montana, Idaho, Arizona, Colorado, Texas, Georgia, Tennessee or any other red or formally red state and pricing locals out of the market either via sale prices or raising tax values. Locusts who should be made to stay in the rotten bed they shit. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By OscarD: Originally Posted By AbleArcher: Originally Posted By 49north: It can't start snowing soon enough to hide the stench. Maybe city officials could tax the tourists more to pay for this mess since it's them and the newcomers responsible for this problem. Tourists are responsible for the problem? Californians selling their 3/2 ranch for $2,000,000 and moving to Montana, Idaho, Arizona, Colorado, Texas, Georgia, Tennessee or any other red or formally red state and pricing locals out of the market either via sale prices or raising tax values. Locusts who should be made to stay in the rotten bed they shit. You won’t find many people who despise Californians more than me, but…the ones who move (in droves) to horse country here in my area are, for the most part, conservatives and ashamed of their former state’s politics. I always tell them (my new clients) “You don’t have to tell me where you came from. When you look at the ground when I ask, it answers my question. Just remember what made your state so ‘great’ and don’t vote to ruin mine”. To my knowledge, I haven’t lost a client yet by saying that. Most of them really do want to fit in. But I don’t think that’s the norm in CO, MT, ID, AZ, etc. |
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Originally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: i lived in sheridan for a while. too close to the mountains to be cheap. not shitty enough to be cheap. i'm thinking like pine bluffs, gillette, or torrington. View Quote Sad but true. Like I said, WY residency and not next to a sprawling suburban liberal shithole I’ll be pretty happy. The wind and cold and nothing will make me happy knowing who it keeps away. |
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Originally Posted By RikWriter: I live half an hour from Cody. There's plenty of places available out here, though they are going to run you $500-700K if you want a nice house with some acreage around it. You can get land a lot cheaper than that, of course, and build your own. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By eagarminuteman: Originally Posted By RikWriter: He's wrong anyway. I live in NW Wyoming and the prices are nowhere near that high, nor is it overcrowded. So my dream of maybe moving to Cody or somewhere in that area isn’t dead? I live half an hour from Cody. There's plenty of places available out here, though they are going to run you $500-700K if you want a nice house with some acreage around it. You can get land a lot cheaper than that, of course, and build your own. Build your own in the west is north of $$$350ft2. Further from “town” is pushing 400-450. |
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Originally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman: Sad but true. Like I said, WY residency and not next to a sprawling suburban liberal shithole I'll be pretty happy. The wind and cold and nothing will make me happy knowing who it keeps away. View Quote basically nebraska but no state income tax since it's still in WY. |
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Originally Posted By BTccw: You’ve forgotten horses in your calculus. Everyone coming out of CA has promised their daughter a horse on their huge 2 acre ranchette. Horse prices in the rest of the west are stupid as a result. $60k for a busted down “ranch” horse. LOL. View Quote 2 year old rope prospects are starting at about $50K here. Cutters at $100K. Could probably buy a house in downtown Bozeman for what a busted down ranch horse would bring. |
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Originally Posted By BTccw: Build your own in the west is north of $$$350ft2. Further from “town” is pushing 400-450. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BTccw: Originally Posted By RikWriter: Originally Posted By eagarminuteman: Originally Posted By RikWriter: He's wrong anyway. I live in NW Wyoming and the prices are nowhere near that high, nor is it overcrowded. So my dream of maybe moving to Cody or somewhere in that area isn’t dead? I live half an hour from Cody. There's plenty of places available out here, though they are going to run you $500-700K if you want a nice house with some acreage around it. You can get land a lot cheaper than that, of course, and build your own. Build your own in the west is north of $$$350ft2. Further from “town” is pushing 400-450. I don't know. Our neighbors managed it within the last two years. |
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