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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:59:26 PM EDT
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Dogs are not humans. They don’t act or think like humans. Regardless of how many Disney movies you’ve seen. And I own and love dogs and cats. They’re well behaved, but trust them to go against nature….NO.
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Posted: 5/1/2024 1:21:39 PM EDT
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Prey drive is real especially in GSDs… Prey drive is very real with GSDs/Mal’s in a pack
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Posted: 5/1/2024 1:34:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: King_Mud]
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By midmo:
Re-reading OP, it looks like barn cat followed OP out into the field so was presumably alive. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 1:37:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Why is it completely acceptable for a cat to hunt small animals and be okay around kids, but a dog that hunts a small animals in a pasture is suddenly a threat to the child? Even domesticated animals are still animals... it doesn't matter how much a person loves them. You mean besides the fact that the dog can kill a child quite easily and a cat, if it attacks like it is rabid, may give you no more than a stitches? Oh, nothing. No difference at all. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 1:45:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ramairthree: My life is filled with dozens of friends, colleagues, relatives, etc. that have had dogs chase down and get a squirrel, snake, rabbit, possum, raccoons, etc. even a cat wandering into their fenced yard from someone else- Without ever harming one of the kids or family members. Prey drive and aggression are very different things. Prey drive is a form of aggression, certainly when the target is killed. You might use the word aggression to mean aggression towards people, but that doesn't change the definition of the word. Concern about the possible intersection of strong prey drive in big/strong animals and small/weak humans or pets is valid. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 1:48:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By X-CaptHook: Don’t tell your daughter. Regardless of what type of story you have to make up. No point in her hating the dogs just for doing dog things. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 1:50:14 PM EDT
[#7]
that's so freaking sad.
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Posted: 5/1/2024 1:52:36 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanPeople: How do people come to this viewpoint? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanPeople: Originally Posted By SnapCity: Time to kill the dogs. How do people come to this viewpoint? Some people may have sociopathic tendencies, are trying to be edgy, maybe not that bright or could be a-holes. My GSD has a prey drive towards cats, bunnies and squirrels. He has never gone after a little kid or any dog of any size. OP's dogs thought they were going after a little critter on the property. It's as simple as that. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 2:01:44 PM EDT
[#9]
Prey drive. If the cat was running away this kicks in and instinct takes over. Unfortunate but the dogs probably didn’t know what they were chasing till they were on it.
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Posted: 5/1/2024 2:01:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Duke117]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uncle_big_green: Some people may have sociopathic tendencies, are trying to be edgy, maybe not that bright or could be a-holes. My GSD has a prey drive towards cats, bunnies and squirrels. He has never gone after a little kid or any dog of any size. OP's dogs thought they were going after a little critter on the property. It's as simple as that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uncle_big_green: Originally Posted By AmericanPeople: Originally Posted By SnapCity: Time to kill the dogs. How do people come to this viewpoint? Some people may have sociopathic tendencies, are trying to be edgy, maybe not that bright or could be a-holes. My GSD has a prey drive towards cats, bunnies and squirrels. He has never gone after a little kid or any dog of any size. OP's dogs thought they were going after a little critter on the property. It's as simple as that. 100% THIS. An unidentified furry creature in tall grass. What’s so ridiculous about some of the responses here advocating for removing the dogs is that according to OP, the conditions were such that no clear field of view was available to the dogs to provide IFF. If they saw the cat on an open area and still elected to kill it, maybe a different story. Given the circumstances, it was over long before any recognition of a family cat could have been made. As far as drawing parallels between what happened and a sudden, newfound risk to children? Bullshit.. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 2:03:12 PM EDT
[#11]
Just go to the pound and get another cat. If it turns out that by getting new cats you are just feeding the dogs, quit getting cats.
We had a Sheppard that hated all other animals except her sister my husky. We would find dead coyotes, she killed a neighbors pitbull, killed a lap dog, if it strayed into her territory she was going to kill it. She was also the most loyal protective dog you could ever ask for. My dad told anyone who ever came to our house to not bring their dogs because Sadie would kill them. His advice was not listened to one time and that’s how she got the lap dog. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 2:07:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanPeople: How do people come to this viewpoint? There's a lot of people here that are pure douchebags. Which is actually an insult to douchebags as they serve a purpose. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 2:08:44 PM EDT
[#13]
Your dogs are assholes.
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IN, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 2:10:10 PM EDT
[#14]
Breed of Peace
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Posted: 5/1/2024 2:11:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Duke117]
[#15]
Holy Fuck…that’s a plot twist I didn’t see coming
Let’s see if the dog killing sociopaths show back up to eat their words.. OP, go apologize to your dogs.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 2:11:57 PM EDT
[#16]
Have the low T city folk showed up ye..........
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Posted: 5/1/2024 2:12:18 PM EDT
[#17]
See OP's update in OP, and some of you can eat (more) crow.
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Posted: 5/1/2024 2:16:14 PM EDT
[#18]
Originally Posted By HK_FTW: Well my barn cat was back in the barn this afternoon when I got home from the shop alive and well. I walked out to the scene of the crime and sure enough there is a dead cat. I never considered the possibility of another black cat getting caught out there. So your dogs saved you from an unfamiliar animal that was stalking you. They should get a steak, not be re-homed. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 2:21:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RoccoOnFire: So your dogs saved you from an unfamiliar animal that was stalking you. They should get a steak, not be re-homed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RoccoOnFire: Originally Posted By HK_FTW: Well my barn cat was back in the barn this afternoon when I got home from the shop alive and well. I walked out to the scene of the crime and sure enough there is a dead cat. I never considered the possibility of another black cat getting caught out there. So your dogs saved you from an unfamiliar animal that was stalking you. They should get a steak, not be re-homed. this. even if it had been the barn cat they did a good deed. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 2:22:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RoccoOnFire: So your dogs saved you from an unfamiliar animal that was stalking you. They should get a steak, not be re-homed. Yeah I'm going to eat crow while they have steak and eggs tonight. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 2:23:45 PM EDT
[#21]
Dishwashers have killed more cats than my GSD.
I need a t-shirt with that. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 2:25:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RoccoOnFire: So your dogs saved you from an unfamiliar animal that was stalking you. They should get a steak, not be re-homed. 100% excellent work!! |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 2:38:07 PM EDT
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LOL
Well not for stranger kitty I guess.  I thought that was kind of weird behavior for GSD's and a cat they were accustomed to. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 2:56:41 PM EDT
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About 20 yrs ago I buried our outside cat, Brewster. I found him dead in the road. The next day my wife called me at work and
said, "Brewster is on the back porch." It turned out I buried a cat that looked just like Brewster. I was glad he wasn't dead. He was the best cat I have ever known. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 3:29:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sauce: Prey drive is a form of aggression, certainly when the target is killed. You might use the word aggression to mean aggression towards people, but that doesn't change the definition of the word. Concern about the possible intersection of strong prey drive in big/strong animals and small/weak humans or pets is valid. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sauce: Originally Posted By ramairthree: My life is filled with dozens of friends, colleagues, relatives, etc. that have had dogs chase down and get a squirrel, snake, rabbit, possum, raccoons, etc. even a cat wandering into their fenced yard from someone else- Without ever harming one of the kids or family members. Prey drive and aggression are very different things. Prey drive is a form of aggression, certainly when the target is killed. You might use the word aggression to mean aggression towards people, but that doesn't change the definition of the word. Concern about the possible intersection of strong prey drive in big/strong animals and small/weak humans or pets is valid. FFS if every dog that pounced on a bird that bounced off a window, dug up a mole, chased and/or caught a squirrel or rabbit, Etc. was going to kill children there would be like 87% less kids alive out there. The entire thing we are discussing is danger/aggression towards people. And it ends up not even being the barn cat. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 3:36:56 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/1/2024 3:40:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople: Mow the vegetation. Don't blame the dogs. Originally Posted By Kiju: well, good to see that the Holy German Shepard is a fuck up, after all... condolences to your daughter, for the loss of her friend. I had put hands on the Chocolate lab, to get her to drop the neighbors cat, who somehow got into our fenced in back yard. She thankfully didn't kill the cat (I prefer to avoid neighbor drama if possible), but she sure slung the shit outta that thing. Either of my dogs will open an extra large can of whoop ass on any animal that sets paw in their backyard. Both of my neighbors big ass Pits have came over (before I fenced in the section for the dogs) and got a pretty good beat down. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 3:43:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hollowhandle: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/44438/EVB6iffXYAM_m5z_jpeg-3203008.JPG A goose wandered off the farm where my daughter was working so my daughter and another hand drove out to pick it up and bring it back. Turns out it was a different goose and they'd essentially rolled up and stolen a goose out of someone's front yard. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 4:03:40 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mnd: A goose wandered off the farm where my daughter was working so my daughter and another hand drove out to pick it up and bring it back. Turns out it was a different goose and they'd essentially rolled up and stolen a goose out of someone's front yard. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mnd: Originally Posted By hollowhandle: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/44438/EVB6iffXYAM_m5z_jpeg-3203008.JPG A goose wandered off the farm where my daughter was working so my daughter and another hand drove out to pick it up and bring it back. Turns out it was a different goose and they'd essentially rolled up and stolen a goose out of someone's front yard. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 4:49:33 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By midmo: Re-reading OP, it looks like barn cat followed OP out into the field so was presumably alive. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By midmo: Originally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Originally Posted By midmo: Definitely odd, at least as far as my experience goes anyway. Are you sure the cat was alive when they found it? This is what I'm wondering too. Are you sure the dogs weren't picking up on whatever just killed the cat? Re-reading OP, it looks like barn cat followed OP out into the field so was presumably alive. I just reread it, and OP says he didn't know the cat had followed him into the pasture because of the overgrowth from the rain. He never says that he knows the cat is there, until the dogs 'pick up on something.' Pretty sure, later he responded that he didn't call them off because he didn't know it was the cat. I've heard cats fighting, and it's usually very loud. It may be something that was very obvious to OP, but he never says that he sees the cat alive or fighting. The cat may have already been dead/dying. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 4:53:26 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -Obsessed-: You mean besides the fact that the dog can kill a child quite easily and a cat, if it attacks like it is rabid, may give you no more than a stitches? Oh, nothing. No difference at all. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -Obsessed-: Originally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Why is it completely acceptable for a cat to hunt small animals and be okay around kids, but a dog that hunts a small animals in a pasture is suddenly a threat to the child? Even domesticated animals are still animals... it doesn't matter how much a person loves them. You mean besides the fact that the dog can kill a child quite easily and a cat, if it attacks like it is rabid, may give you no more than a stitches? Oh, nothing. No difference at all. Obviously the dog is a bigger threat to a small child's life. I didn't mean it as an attack against cats or cat owners. But I don't think a parent would let any animal or object be around a small child that might injure and mame the child. I was pointing out that it's completely expected for one domestic animal to give into its instincts, but not the other. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 4:56:20 PM EDT
[#32]
Think of all the birds your dogs saved.
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Posted: 5/1/2024 4:58:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HecklerKac]
[#33]
Sorry about the cat
 Dont take it out on the dogs for doing what dogs do though Edit: Dont tell your daughter either...nothing good will come from it |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 5:05:01 PM EDT
[#34]
Wow...the amount of grown men on here that are fantasizing about killing a dog over dogs killing a cat is crazy. Go get some help immediately.
Some weirdos out there holy shit |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 5:06:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HecklerKac: Wow...the amount of grown men on here that are fantasizing about killing a dog over dogs killing a cat is crazy. Go get some help immediately. Some weirdos out there holy shit Goes both ways, plenty around here that want cats dead. I just don't get it (either side). |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 5:06:52 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HecklerKac: Sorry about the cat Dont take it out on the dogs for doing what dogs do though Edit: Dont tell your daughter either...nothing good will come from it OP updated, cat came back. Turns out the dogs killed a different, similar looking, cat. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 5:09:31 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HK_FTW: Yeah I'm going to eat crow while they have steak and eggs tonight. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 5:09:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HecklerKac]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -Obsessed-: You mean besides the fact that the dog can kill a child quite easily and a cat, if it attacks like it is rabid, may give you no more than a stitches? Oh, nothing. No difference at all. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -Obsessed-: Originally Posted By Mr_Nasty99: Why is it completely acceptable for a cat to hunt small animals and be okay around kids, but a dog that hunts a small animals in a pasture is suddenly a threat to the child? Even domesticated animals are still animals... it doesn't matter how much a person loves them. You mean besides the fact that the dog can kill a child quite easily and a cat, if it attacks like it is rabid, may give you no more than a stitches? Oh, nothing. No difference at all. Dogs chasing and killing cats has been happening since time and memorial. There are literally phrases and sayings and jokes and cartoons based on it. To assume that a dog is in any way unsafe around humans just because it wants to chase or kill small animals is insane. Cats guys especially can be some fuckin weirdos. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 5:10:54 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DV8EDD: OP updated, cat came back. Turns out the dogs killed a different, similar looking, cat. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DV8EDD: Originally Posted By HecklerKac: Sorry about the cat Dont take it out on the dogs for doing what dogs do though Edit: Dont tell your daughter either...nothing good will come from it OP updated, cat came back. Turns out the dogs killed a different, similar looking, cat. Yeah I just saw that....shits wild |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 5:21:59 PM EDT
[#40]
Originally Posted By HK_FTW: EDIT for pet cemetery Well my barn cat was back in the barn this afternoon when I got home from the shop alive and well. I walked out to the scene of the crime and sure enough there is a dead cat. I never considered the possibility of another black cat getting caught out there. Lol WTF?! This thread just got epic! |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 5:24:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SnapCity]
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HecklerKac: Wow...the amount of grown men on here that are fantasizing about killing a dog over dogs killing a cat is crazy. Go get some help immediately. Pendulum swings both ways. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 6:34:44 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -Obsessed-: You mean besides the fact that the dog can kill a child quite easily and a cat, if it attacks like it is rabid, may give you no more than a stitches? Oh, nothing. No difference at all. I know a few adults who have had life changing injuries from domestic cats. You’re underselling the damage cats can dish out. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 6:35:55 PM EDT
[#43]
Black cats do have 9 lives
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Posted: 5/1/2024 7:33:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PeepEater: Tools that don't work correctly get thrown away. Living tools don't train themselves, and even then, will do stoopid shit. People that think like you shouldn't own dogs. My wife has cats, and I can't stand them, they're filthy creatures that don't belong in my home, I'd take them all to the pound tomorrow, but I'd take a bullet for my dog. Some people love cats, they're just not my thing, I guess. Glad it worked out op, it's never fun to see a little kid in pain. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 7:46:21 PM EDT
[#45]
All is well that ends well I suppose.
I would be leery of them if they killed another member of the family pack, but killing an intruder is just what they do. Steaks it is! Glad no rash decisions were made. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 7:49:19 PM EDT
[#46]
Originally Posted By HK_FTW: . EDIT for pet cemetery Well my barn cat was back in the barn this afternoon when I got home from the shop alive and well. I walked out to the scene of the crime and sure enough there is a dead cat. I never considered the possibility of another black cat getting caught out there. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 8:05:46 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fingas: Sounds like the dogs did their job. I hate dealing with it but my dogs keep the neighborhood fairly free from stray cats which for some reason like getting into my yard. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fingas: Originally Posted By HK_FTW: . EDIT for pet cemetery Well my barn cat was back in the barn this afternoon when I got home from the shop alive and well. I walked out to the scene of the crime and sure enough there is a dead cat. I never considered the possibility of another black cat getting caught out there. Dogs are still predisposed to eat OP kids though, what do we do about that? |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 8:16:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -Obsessed-: Because the dog obviously has tendencies that are not compatible with safe rearing of a 6 year old child. I had a cat that hated my newborn and would just randomly attack her. That cat is long gone. Sorry, but pets are not the same level as children and if you risk ones safety for the sake of keeping the other around you fall into the same group of people who are surprised when their innocent pibble mauled their toddler to death. Animal shows any aggression at all, then they just deemed themselves disposable. You can't train out aggression. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 8:17:11 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wakeboarder: Do you bring your houseplants as well? |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 8:17:33 PM EDT
[#50]
I know you said shepherds, but you can tell us.
They were pitbulls, weren't they? It's ok. |
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