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Posted: 5/1/2024 3:10:37 PM EDT
I’m sure this has been done before but I don’t recall reading a thread about it. I just took a few of my new pistols (PSA sales) to the range and ran about 100 rounds of mixed range ammo through them followed by a box each of HSTs which I plan to carry them with. No hiccups whatsoever so I feel GTG. Just curious to what extreme some of you do for initial testing on a carry piece.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 3:12:27 PM EDT
[#1]
87 of course
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Posted: 5/1/2024 3:13:03 PM EDT
[#2]
I should have seen that one coming
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Posted: 5/1/2024 3:13:14 PM EDT
[#3]
First post thing again. Amazing!
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IA, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 3:37:55 PM EDT
[#4]
Some never make the cut but I can usually tell that within the first 100 rounds.
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Posted: 5/1/2024 3:41:00 PM EDT
[#5]
My Glocks, I usually run a couple hundred FMJ and then a couple mags of JHP assuming no issues, if there are issues then I start over. I just bought a couple of Staccatos and I'm going to run at least 500rds FMJ and then 100 or so rounds of JHP before it sees duty, duty as in HD or EDC, I am not LEO.
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Posted: 5/1/2024 3:41:28 PM EDT
[#6]
About 1,000.
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Posted: 5/1/2024 3:42:46 PM EDT
[#7]
A box of what I'm gonna carry in it.
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GA, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 3:43:26 PM EDT
[#8]
At 250 rounds I start feeling a level of trust. Fully at 500 rounds.
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Posted: 5/1/2024 3:44:34 PM EDT
[#9]
500 minimum with a variety of ammo.
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Posted: 5/1/2024 3:51:36 PM EDT
[#11]
Coming off of several piss poor ARs in the 1990s, it took me about 10,000 rounds through my BCM to get that "OK, this will work" feeling.
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Posted: 5/1/2024 3:55:51 PM EDT
[#12]
Tree Fiddy
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Posted: 5/1/2024 3:58:17 PM EDT
[#13]
200
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Posted: 5/1/2024 3:58:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Curmudgeon762]
[#14]
I am talking dead stock, un-altered pistols. S&W Shield 2.0 40 cals, one standard and one compact. They both ate 100 rounds of whatever I had laying around (including old cast reloads) and when then ran flawlessly with a box of HSTs. I figure they are fine at this point.
If it was a home built AR, I would shoot it a lot more as I have had a few issues there. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 3:59:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BabaYaga22]
[#15]
1k rounds of 115/124 gr target ammo
150 rds of carry ammo, I also shoot carry ammo through my CCWs 2-4 times a year usually an additional 100 rds per gun. I swap out my carry ammo in all my CCWs every 6 months. This applies with any pistol from any of the big manufacturers. I just got this done with my HK USP-9 I bought 1.5 months ago. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 4:03:29 PM EDT
[#16]
I go based of performance. If I run 100rd of FMJ and a few mags of carry ammo with no issues how is that different than 500, 5000, or any arbitrary number. If the first round fails to chamber but every round after for 10K is flawless is that a fail?
It really comes down to budget and what you can afford plus what you think it adequate. I know people who had never shot a particular firearm who carry them. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 4:08:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Pantexan]
[#17]
87 of course .
ETA : Beat by about an hour . |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 4:09:36 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By artburg: A box of what I'm gonna carry in it. this. if I get through 3-4 mags I'm usually moderately happy. I'm more suspicious of mags. if I have a jam in a mag I watch it pretty close. 2 or 3 I mark it. more than 2 marks and I usually tear it apart to see what's up and if nothing obvious, I toss it. |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 4:11:05 PM EDT
[#19]
1-200rds of FMJ, 50-100rds of SD and at least 1-2 full mags worth of each in every mag I plan on carrying.
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Posted: 5/1/2024 4:12:21 PM EDT
[#20]
One.
Datum can be optimistic. Data, however, is constrictive. Don't let The Man win by locking you into the patriarchal constructs of rigorous, repeatable testing. If it fired once, and chambered the next round ok, why wouldn't it do so again, when asked? Come on, man. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 4:13:56 PM EDT
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AR gets approx 300-500 in one sitting. no cleaning the barrel nonsense.
my .22 Ruger Mk IV is deemed trustworthy as soon as I find the right ammo that feeds correctly. CCI Stingers for the win!! my 92FS was deemed trustworthy as soon as I fired it and cleaned it for the next time. AR, at the end of 500rds in one sitting. Once cleaned and inspected it is deemed trustworthy. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 6:30:26 PM EDT
[#22]
I'm pretty comfortable with Glocks and clones I build after four mags of mixed ammo (FMJ and JHP) when using OEM mags
I literally have never had a malfunction that wasn't my fault. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 6:36:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TriggerM: At 250 rounds I start feeling a level of trust. Fully at 500 rounds. Same. I don't sweat a few malfunctions in the first 100, but it's gotta run flawless from 250-500 with carry and range ammo before it's getting the nod. |
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MS, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 6:49:58 PM EDT
[#24]
Usually a couple hundred rounds of training ammo and a couple hundred rounds of what I’ll be carrying in it.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 6:53:17 PM EDT
[#25]
at my agency anytime one of us buys a new personally owned firearm we have to run the qualification course a minimum of three times so that’s 150 rounds total. presumably that’s to make sure it functions properly but more so to make sure that we have a series of qualifying scores on file. That’s how it’s been for us forever although when I first got hired, our qualification courses were 100 round so that would be 300 total, but they cut our qualifications in half many years ago for money reasons
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USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 6:54:45 PM EDT
[#26]
Bought a model 29. I Put 12 rounds down range.
I trust and carry it. Same with my jframe. Glock 19 has about 6k through it and I trust it. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 6:57:25 PM EDT
[#27]
First range trip. If it works, it works. At the end of the range trip, I'll run some carry ammo through it to represent the gun being dirty or dryer on lube. Usually 100-400 rounds before the carry ammo.
Guns break at weird times. No way to to determine that unless you completely disassemble and inspect each part and even that might not show you anything. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 6:59:39 PM EDT
[#28]
I pretty much know if a gun is gonna work in two-three mags.
The last gun I bought is used cz 75d. I cleaned it, lubed it and put4 or 5 mags through it. It shot great, no malfunction. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 6:59:49 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: First range trip. If it works, it works. At the end of the range trip, I'll run some carry ammo through it to represent the gun being dirty or dryer on lube. Usually 100-400 rounds before the carry ammo. Guns break at weird times. No way to to determine that unless you completely disassemble and inspect each part and even that might not show you anything. This. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 7:01:07 PM EDT
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Damn. Some of you guys REALLY test your weapons. I’ve carried stuff into combat that I only zeroed and fired a qualification course on..like 50 rounds…many times and was never worried about a failure.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 7:11:17 PM EDT
[#31]
Carried my G43 for about a year before I even shot it
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Posted: 5/1/2024 7:12:45 PM EDT
[#32]
87 rounds.
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Posted: 5/1/2024 7:14:16 PM EDT
[#33]
For a Glock, at least 8 mags and I call it a day. Rifles, basically 300 rounds
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 7:19:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: flynbenny]
[#34]
OP is pretty close to what I do.
I trust a factory stock or stock-ish pistol after about 200-300 practice (usually my reloads) and 50 or so of the JHP I'd carry in it. I test all my mags (they are numbered so suspect ones can be isolated if needed) about 4-5 full load to unloaded cycles including a few "Bill drills" before I trust them. I do the lock back test Glock taught me in the armorer course annually on every mag I carry in the gun it is carried in. I like to get at least one full load to empty cycle with the carry ammo too in every mag. I know GD's favorite gun instructor says not to carry handloaded stuff. But my "woods" load is a handloaded clone of the Buffalo Bore Outdoorsman load. I treat them like hunting ammo, sealing primers and bullets, load single stage, and plunk every single round in the barrel. I chrono them to work up the load, then the final load needed about 100 problem free (and 10 of those randomly chrono-ed) before I felt good about them. I treated my 380 defense load the same way, I have fired about 250 or so of those now over the last four years with no hiccups at all. I shoot out my carried ammo in every gun once a year right, out of the holster and spare mag in my belt as it is carried. I think I have shot over 2k Speer and Remington LE ammo in five different Glocks (stock or Magpul Glock mags) over the last decade with exactly zero failures. Edit: I should mention my practice ammo is a clone of whatever I carry using a cheaper coated bullet. I spent months developing my 9mm load to duplicate the performance of the Speer Gold Dot 124 gr +P load. Let's just say it drops even poorly set poppers with authority. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 7:19:28 PM EDT
[#35]
Not that many. Modern guns and ammo is pretty damn reliable.
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Posted: 5/1/2024 7:21:40 PM EDT
[#36]
I just buy quality guns and ammo for carry
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Posted: 5/1/2024 7:23:04 PM EDT
[#37]
Depends on the brand, but generally not many any more.
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Posted: 5/1/2024 7:26:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TheYellowThing]
[#38]
No way would I carry my PPK/s as a daily carry.
Some days it works. Some days it doesn't. Like a Lambretta scooter.  |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 7:27:47 PM EDT
[#39]
500 rds min, various ammo types and brands. Let it get dirty and see if it still eats.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 7:28:26 PM EDT
[#40]
Ill carry a gun after 2-3 trouble free mags
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Posted: 5/1/2024 7:31:45 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TriggerM: At 250 rounds I start feeling a level of trust. Fully at 500 rounds. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 7:32:27 PM EDT
[#42]
100 rounds without failure usually let's me trust it enough
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Posted: 5/1/2024 7:33:33 PM EDT
[#43]
A few mags and a few rounds of my carry load. If I have any issues, it gets another range trip with a few more mags.
But I've found it's also best to run some drills (draw from the holster, reloading, multiple targets, etc.). This can reveal issues that won't present itself during slow fire. And I always carry a small back-up gun. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 7:33:39 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: Not that many. Modern guns and ammo is pretty damn reliable. You are not wrong. I have never had a factory LE load fail to cycle or fire in a Glock, Sig, or S&W, ever. Primers are stupid reliable, I have loaded thousands of loads with CCI primers and have had zero duds. Since the phrase "test engineer" is usually in my job title and I'm a skeptical guy, I'm gonna test stuff. It is in my DNA |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 7:36:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 21usernamechecksout]
[#45]
Depends on the gun.
My Beretta 92..... One mag of FMJ One mag of SD No malfunctions.... GTG Ammo is too expensive to waste. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 7:36:51 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By California_Kid: About 1,000. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 7:37:32 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TriggerM: At 250 rounds I start feeling a level of trust. Fully at 500 rounds. |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 7:39:20 PM EDT
[#48]
Anything mechanical is capable of failing.
However, I feel pretty comfortable with a firearm/ammunition/ magazine combo that goes 350-400 rounds without failure. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 7:40:10 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flynbenny: You are not wrong. I have never had a factory LE load fail to cycle or fire in a Glock, Sig, or S&W, ever. Primers are stupid reliable, I have loaded thousands of loads with CCI primers and have had zero duds. Since the phrase "test engineer" is usually in my job title and I'm a skeptical guy, I'm gonna test stuff. It is in my DNA For sure. I can't carry a gun or have one for HD without testing it. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 7:40:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jabbanobother: Carried my G43 for about a year before I even shot it Yep. For Glock and HK—disassemble, couple drops of oil, reassemble, load and holster up. Good to go so far. S&W revolvers, too. Pre lock only. |
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