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Quoted: Neither are the case. One if you cut off foreign ownership of land do you think you would have foreign car companies or manufacturing facilities coming to the US? What about biotech companies that have foreign ownership? Should we be able to buy land and houses in other countries? Because in 90% of countries we can purchase land and houses. But keep with your stupid argument that I hate whites just because I don't hate non whites. View Quote As far as other countries restricting our property rights, that's their business, not mine. I've no desire to tell other sovereign countries what to do. |
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Quoted: The people making those complaints know f*ck-all about single family residence corporate ownership. Of all the rental properties in the US, only about 30% are owned by corporations...and the vast majority of those "corporations" are single-proprietor LLCs, ergo normal families that own investment properties for family wealth. Big corps like Blackstone own a single-digit percentage of that 30%. Both of these things are old man yelling at cloud. View Quote They're also likely responsible for the rampant mortgage fraud that has only accelerated since the GFC. https://www.philadelphiafed.org/consumer-finance/mortgage-markets/owner-occupancy-fraud-mortgage-performance |
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Why are companies allowed to fire Americans and then hire h1bs saying there's no american that can do the job?
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This is interesting since my Indian next door neighbor mentioned that he might be interested in buying my mothers condo if he can rent it out. I’m not sure if the condo association allows rentals.
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Quoted: I don't like capitalism if it means my family is disadvantaged in the country I was born in. It's an economic system, not a diety to sacrifice my children to. Try again. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Op: "I lOvE cApItAliSm" *captialism happens* Op: NnnnoooOOOOOOoooo NoT lIke ThAt. This is gayer than Richard Simmons starting an OF account. I don't like capitalism if it means my family is disadvantaged in the country I was born in. It's an economic system, not a diety to sacrifice my children to. Try again. The only reason your family has a perceived disadvantage is because of the decisions you have made and/or will make. |
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Quoted: Why are companies allowed to fire Americans and then hire h1bs saying there's no american that can do the job? View Quote The scam is that they run job postings with insultingly low pay for absurdly lofty requirements. Then after a period of time with no qualified applicants they get to cry “we need a H1B to fill this role that we cannot otherwise fill”. |
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Quoted: You're real quick to imply people that disagree with you are racist. I'm simply returning the favor. Nobody here was talking about foreign business opening manufacturing here, but if you want to shift the subject, then yes, that should absolutely be gatekept too. As far as other countries restricting our property rights, that's their business, not mine. I've no desire to tell other sovereign countries what to do. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: You're real quick to imply people that disagree with you are racist. I'm simply returning the favor. Nobody here was talking about foreign business opening manufacturing here, but if you want to shift the subject, then yes, that should absolutely be gatekept too. As far as other countries restricting our property rights, that's their business, not mine. I've no desire to tell other sovereign countries what to do. Quoted: Explain why allowing foreign land ownership is a bad thing please. I think if US citizens can’t buy land there, they can’t buy here. That’s only fair, right? Multiple people have asked what the downside of not allowing foreign ownership of property are. Is reading tough for you? |
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Quoted: This is interesting since my Indian next door neighbor mentioned that he might be interested in buying my mothers condo if he can rent it out. I'm not sure if the condo association allows rentals. View Quote He probably doesn't care. Indians have bought and rented out houses in my childhood neighborhood despite signing covenants prohibiting such transactions. They will keep it rolling until HOA forces them to sell, it's happened at least twice on the street so far. |
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Quoted: Multiple people have asked what the downside of not allowing foreign ownership of property are. Is reading tough for you? View Quote Industrial uses are a separate issue, but it's real foolish to believe the answer should be "yes" without any caveats. |
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Quoted: The only reason your family has a perceived disadvantage is because of the decisions you have made and/or will make. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Op: "I lOvE cApItAliSm" *captialism happens* Op: NnnnoooOOOOOOoooo NoT lIke ThAt. This is gayer than Richard Simmons starting an OF account. I don't like capitalism if it means my family is disadvantaged in the country I was born in. It's an economic system, not a diety to sacrifice my children to. Try again. The only reason your family has a perceived disadvantage is because of the decisions you have made and/or will make. That's not true at all, unless you think I control the prime lending rate, monetary policy leading to inflation, or that I'm behind wages not keeping up with economic growth since the 1970s. I don't know why you take it personally when people talk about wanting better futures for their children, seems pretty fucking hateful to want my kids to have worse lives if you ask me. |
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Here is one for you all would you rather have a H1B doctor or no doctor at all? My local hospital has a lot of indian M.D's because good white doctors just don't apply or stay. Do you lower standards to become a Dr or import doctors? Should those people be able property rights?
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Quoted: Here is one for you all would you rather have a H1B doctor or no doctor at all? My local hospital has a lot of indian M.D's because good white doctors just don't apply or stay. Do you lower standards to become a Dr or import doctors? View Quote Maybe your local hospital should pay more to incentivize good doctors to work there? |
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Quoted: Here is one for you all would you rather have a H1B doctor or no doctor at all? My local hospital has a lot of indian M.D's because good white doctors just don't apply or stay. Do you lower standards to become a Dr or import doctors? View Quote |
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Quoted: Here is one for you all would you rather have a H1B doctor or no doctor at all? My local hospital has a lot of indian M.D's because good white doctors just don't apply or stay. Do you lower standards to become a Dr or import doctors? View Quote |
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Quoted: Maybe your local hospital should pay more to incentivize good doctors to work there? Quoted: I'd rather increase pay. Im sure pay will make up for this. Some estimates are higher, I had to wait a month to see a specialist locally. "According to new projections published today by the AAMC (Association of American Medical Colleges), the United States will face a physician shortage of up to 86,000 physicians by 2036." |
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Quoted: Here's a wild thought. Maybe we wouldn't need as many doctors if there weren't millions of migrants pouring in and straining the healthcare infrastructure. Crazy, I know. View Quote You just said I lived in a all white utopia so I am not seeing a correlation. Also I never once said I was in favor of illegal immigration. You won't get any arguments out of building a fence or securing our border at all cost be it mines or bullets. |
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Quoted: That's a misleading proposition. The standards to become a doctor have already been lowered for minorities in an effort to increase diversity. Furthermore, the increase in demand for health care is in part due to the population explosion from mass migration. If we cut that off and invest in our own people, I don't see why we can't have our own native doctors. View Quote So DEI doctors is your fix, fuck that I will take a H1B indian over a tranny that got through because of mental illness. |
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Quoted: Im sure pay will make up for this. Some estimates are higher, I had to wait a month to see a specialist locally. "According to new projections published today by the AAMC (Association of American Medical Colleges), the United States will face a physician shortage of up to 86,000 physicians by 2036." View Quote |
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Quoted: The US does not need these H1B people. Cut the H1B and related programs by 98-99.3% and deport them. View Quote The problem isn't them buying rental properties, that's smart on their behalf but the question is should they even be allowed to live here anyway. The entire H1B Visa program is a Corporate Welfare program hurting the every shrinking middle-class in this country. These type are for all intended purposes indentured servants for whatever Corp entity that will sponsor them. |
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Quoted: Im sure pay will make up for this. Some estimates are higher, I had to wait a month to see a specialist locally. "According to new projections published today by the AAMC (Association of American Medical Colleges), the United States will face a physician shortage of up to 86,000 physicians by 2036." View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I'd rather increase pay. Quoted: Maybe your local hospital should pay more to incentivize good doctors to work there? Quoted: I'd rather increase pay. Im sure pay will make up for this. Some estimates are higher, I had to wait a month to see a specialist locally. "According to new projections published today by the AAMC (Association of American Medical Colleges), the United States will face a physician shortage of up to 86,000 physicians by 2036." I think I see the problem. You live in the middle of nowhere so you don't see the rampant influx of unrestricted migration. In effect, you reside in a bubble and your opinions are based on that. I would encourage you to listen to the perspectives of those who have firsthand experience with its consequences before deeming it to be an innocuous phenomenon. It's very easy to say "well I don't care about XYZ" when you're relatively insulated from it's results. I see this a lot with older folks who are more "Traditional" conservatives, ie Libertarian leaning or what you might even call "Ronald Reagan" Republicans. You guys just don't know what you don't know. I will try to be kinder when I object to some of your points. |
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Quoted: The problem isn't them buying rental properties, that's smart on their behalf but the question is should they even be allowed to live here anyway. The entire H1B Visa program is a Corporate Welfare program hurting the every shrinking middle-class in this country. These type are for all intended purposes indentured servants for whatever Corp entity that will sponsor them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The US does not need these H1B people. Cut the H1B and related programs by 98-99.3% and deport them. The problem isn't them buying rental properties, that's smart on their behalf but the question is should they even be allowed to live here anyway. The entire H1B Visa program is a Corporate Welfare program hurting the every shrinking middle-class in this country. These type are for all intended purposes indentured servants for whatever Corp entity that will sponsor them. Bingo. This is correct. |
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Quoted: Couldn't have anything to do with an explosion in the population. Nah View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Here's a wild thought. Maybe we wouldn't need as many doctors if there weren't millions of migrants pouring in and straining the healthcare infrastructure. Crazy, I know. Where do you even live? you hide behind a fake location tag. |
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Quoted: You have to remember to alot of guys on here if they see someone with brown screen they are automatically bad. Doesn't matter that that individual IQ is 2-3 SD's above what theirs is. View Quote IQ's have little to do with good or bad. Very smart people can be liberal assholes, and they can be good conservatives. Just like dumb people. |
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Quoted: Dozens. I've offshored more than 5000 FTE's. I've managed hundreds of H1B's. And I've been on the board with H1B and Greencard holders making strategic plans decades in advance. Your insight into their culture is surface level at best. You only have a limited experience with them. The things you point out are mostly true (they drink like fish, just not in front of you)...but you miss a BUNCH of other things. First Nepotisim. This is just a part of their culture. They will hire their brother, sister, cousin and put them in place of people who are better suited for the role in an instant. You will never get away from this. That is a fact. Sometimes this can be beneficial, but often it's at the detrimint of the overall organization. Second Caste system. Basically cultural racisim. If you have the wrong last name, you can't get a promotion. There's a glass ceiling no matter how damn good you are. Which sucks for that individual, true, but can be a real problem for the organization too if you have a shit manager or director with a subordinate that's a rock star but just happens to have the wrong last name. Third anti-assimilation. People on an H1B have NO INTEREST in assimalating into American life or culture. None. They are here because of their family, to get money, and it's on a limited timeframe. So they are maximizing their profits to go home and be better off than they were. This means that they may learn about American culture, but they won't adopt it in practice. This is more of a problem for the communities they temporarily reside in, but can be an organizational problem as well. Fourth, intellectual property rights. The only people who steal intellectual property more prolificly than Indians are Chineese. And, the Indian laws do not allow for protections or reclimation of those things. If you need to be educated on how bad this is then lord help us. If you are aware of all the negatives the Indian culture brings to the table, you can plan around it and leverage the benefits they bring to the table for mutually beneficial relationships. But you're rose colored, there's no drawback's view of the Indian culture tells me you are wet behind the ears and have a lot to learn. View Quote This man and I have the same experiences. Mass importing their culture into the US is just as harmful as 3rd world Latin Americans and will lead to the same |
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Quoted: I think I see the problem. You live in the middle of nowhere so you don't see the rampant influx of unrestricted migration. In effect, you reside in a bubble and your opinions are based on that. I would encourage you to listen to the perspectives of those who have firsthand experience with its consequences before deeming it to be an innocuous phenomenon. It's very easy to say "well I don't care about XYZ" when you're relatively insulated from it's results. I see this a lot with older folks who are more "Traditional" conservatives, ie Libertarian leaning or what you might even call "Ronald Reagan" Republicans. You guys just don't know what you don't know. I will try to be kinder when I object to some of your points. View Quote Live in a larger than average MO town but okay. Also are we talking H1B's or illegals pouring across the border this mental gymnastics is getting rough. |
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OP, it's almost the same in my AO, but with Chicoms. And zero LinkedIn activity... I'm always going down our county's property records rabbit bootyhole. Insane how many foreign nationals own property in the US.
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Quoted: You just said I lived in a all white utopia so I am not seeing a correlation. Also I never once said I was in favor of illegal immigration. You won't get any arguments out of building a fence or securing our border at all cost be it mines or bullets. View Quote H1B is not just a few thousand doctors filling in gaps. That wouldn't be a huge deal. It's millions of people, many of whom bring along their entire family who consume a lot of real physical resources and infrastructural in exchange for nebulous, non-tangible, but high paying tech bubble jobs that in many instances do not actually produce real wealth or lead to any real wealth creation. |
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Quoted: Live in a larger than average MO town but okay. Also are we talking H1B's or illegals pouring across the border this mental gymnastics is getting rough. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I think I see the problem. You live in the middle of nowhere so you don't see the rampant influx of unrestricted migration. In effect, you reside in a bubble and your opinions are based on that. I would encourage you to listen to the perspectives of those who have firsthand experience with its consequences before deeming it to be an innocuous phenomenon. It's very easy to say "well I don't care about XYZ" when you're relatively insulated from it's results. I see this a lot with older folks who are more "Traditional" conservatives, ie Libertarian leaning or what you might even call "Ronald Reagan" Republicans. You guys just don't know what you don't know. I will try to be kinder when I object to some of your points. Live in a larger than average MO town but okay. Also are we talking H1B's or illegals pouring across the border this mental gymnastics is getting rough. "Mass migration" encompasses both illegal and legal routes of immigration. It's not mental gymnastics, it's a comprehensive look at the sources of immigration and the lived experiences of the US-born populations in the areas that experience the influx of new people. There are negative repercussions (there are also some positives, to some people, mainly business owners and other employers) to this phenomenon and it's not racist to point that out. |
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Quoted: Here is one for you all would you rather have a H1B doctor or no doctor at all? My local hospital has a lot of indian M.D's because good white doctors just don't apply or stay. Do you lower standards to become a Dr or import doctors? Should those people be able property rights? View Quote You just made the point that many on here have been trying to make. Not to mention, for someone use "capitalism" for your reason it's ironic you just undercut your own argument. Perhaps your local hospital should pay more but thanks to the H1B program, your hospital can sponsor dozens of Doctors at $50K a pop. Nevermind these "doctors" are at best under-qualified but hey, your hospital has doctors on staff. |
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Quoted: That's not true at all, unless you think I control the prime lending rate, monetary policy leading to inflation, or that I'm behind wages not keeping up with economic growth since the 1970s. I don't know why you take it personally when people talk about wanting better futures for their children, seems pretty fucking hateful to want my kids to have worse lives if you ask me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Op: "I lOvE cApItAliSm" *captialism happens* Op: NnnnoooOOOOOOoooo NoT lIke ThAt. This is gayer than Richard Simmons starting an OF account. I don't like capitalism if it means my family is disadvantaged in the country I was born in. It's an economic system, not a diety to sacrifice my children to. Try again. The only reason your family has a perceived disadvantage is because of the decisions you have made and/or will make. That's not true at all, unless you think I control the prime lending rate, monetary policy leading to inflation, or that I'm behind wages not keeping up with economic growth since the 1970s. I don't know why you take it personally when people talk about wanting better futures for their children, seems pretty fucking hateful to want my kids to have worse lives if you ask me. Somehow or another millions of people have found success and a better future for their family while dealing with the same prime rate, monetary policies and lack of wage growth that you’ve had. None of those things affect you and you alone. And yet you continually blame those things to excuse your dissatisfaction with the success you’ve been able to realize to this point. |
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Quoted: Where do you even live? you hide behind a fake location tag. View Quote If it did, you wouldn't be on here supporting more of it, you'd realize how demoralizing and soul sucking it is to witness. And while on paper the kumbaya shit sounds fine, in actuality it's awful and leaves you feeling like an outcast. How do I know? Because I was making your exact arguments 10 years ago. Indians were a small percentage of the population, I thought they're probably hard working, they aren't committing violent crimes and they're adding value to society. Then the years pass by, suddenly you realize you're the minority now, the American flags come down, there isn't this feeling of community or strong social bonds like there once was. Not because you hate brown people, but because they are culturally different from you, they don't share your holidays, they don't want to BBQ with you, they don't give a fuck about watching the game or having some iced tea in the back yard. They don't want to be a part of your life or your culture. They're here to make money and for THEIR families, not to share some sense of community with you. They are carving out their own pockets to have a sense of community with their own people. Many won't even make eye contact with you or acknowledge you when you say hi as you pass by. That might not be universally true of all H1B's, but this is my experience. And it is more demoralizing than anything. It feels like we lost a major war and are under occupation where I'm at. They don't associate with you, nor do they want to. It's like slowly becoming a Gaijin or untouchable in the place you grew up. There is no more sense of cohesion or community and it's absolutely destructive. And then on top of that, when they vote, its for democrats. Why anyone would want more of that, I have no idea. I expect it's because you haven't been exposed to it yet. You'll learn one day though. |
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Quoted: So you want to join the ranks of China, Indonesia, Nigeria, Philippines, and Thailand? They don't allow foreigners to own land. I would agree if you said foreign governments or agents but not allowing foreign individuals to own land would put us one step closer to being a third world shit hole. View Quote We are pretty close to third world status with our current justice system and government debt. |
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Quoted: Somehow or another millions of people have found success and a better future for their family while dealing with the same prime rate, monetary policies and lack of wage growth that you’ve had. None of those things affect you and you alone. And yet you continually blame those things to excuse your dissatisfaction with the success you’ve been able to realize to this point. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Op: "I lOvE cApItAliSm" *captialism happens* Op: NnnnoooOOOOOOoooo NoT lIke ThAt. This is gayer than Richard Simmons starting an OF account. I don't like capitalism if it means my family is disadvantaged in the country I was born in. It's an economic system, not a diety to sacrifice my children to. Try again. The only reason your family has a perceived disadvantage is because of the decisions you have made and/or will make. That's not true at all, unless you think I control the prime lending rate, monetary policy leading to inflation, or that I'm behind wages not keeping up with economic growth since the 1970s. I don't know why you take it personally when people talk about wanting better futures for their children, seems pretty fucking hateful to want my kids to have worse lives if you ask me. Somehow or another millions of people have found success and a better future for their family while dealing with the same prime rate, monetary policies and lack of wage growth that you’ve had. None of those things affect you and you alone. And yet you continually blame those things to excuse your dissatisfaction with the success you’ve been able to realize to this point. Somehow all humans have still been able to carve out a life in spite of any of the hardships of their time... why are you making that argument like I'm a bad person or that I'm inept somehow for realizing my society has problems and then trying to solve them so that my children can have better lives? That's also something that all humans have always done throughout history, but somehow I'm a piece of shit when I do it just because I'm white and I was born in America? You have to realize your argument of historical relativism falls apart under even the slightest scrutiny. Of course humans have always had problems. But they've always tried to solve them. Just like I am. Whoop de fuckin do. That's not a significant insight. |
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Quoted: So you want to join the ranks of China, Indonesia, Nigeria, Philippines, and Thailand? They don't allow foreigners to own land. I would agree if you said foreign governments or agents but not allowing foreign individuals to own land would put us one step closer to being a third world shit hole. View Quote I don't have a problem with foreign nationals who legally reside here buying a primary residence (condo or SFH with max 1/2 acre) but they shouldn't be allowed to buy properties as investments. The real problem isn't some random Indian dude renting out the house his parents bought when he was in college, it's rich Chinese/Russians/Arabs buying up entire neighborhoods |
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Quoted: Quoted: Because they were smart with their money and invested it instead of blowing it on firearms, ammo, and gear that sits in the closet 362 days/year or alcohol that is pissed away 8 hours later? I love this lol With bait like that he’s going to need a bigger boat. |
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Quoted: You just made the point that many on here have been trying to make. Not to mention, for someone use "capitalism" for your reason it's ironic you just undercut your own argument. Perhaps your local hospital should pay more but thanks to the H1B program, your hospital can sponsor dozens of Doctors at $50K a pop. Nevermind these "doctors" are at best under-qualified but hey, your hospital has doctors on staff. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Here is one for you all would you rather have a H1B doctor or no doctor at all? My local hospital has a lot of indian M.D's because good white doctors just don't apply or stay. Do you lower standards to become a Dr or import doctors? Should those people be able property rights? You just made the point that many on here have been trying to make. Not to mention, for someone use "capitalism" for your reason it's ironic you just undercut your own argument. Perhaps your local hospital should pay more but thanks to the H1B program, your hospital can sponsor dozens of Doctors at $50K a pop. Nevermind these "doctors" are at best under-qualified but hey, your hospital has doctors on staff. Call me a xenophobe if you like but I want to be able to understand my doctor without having to ask them to repeat themself 3 or 4 times. |
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Quoted: Here is one for you all would you rather have a H1B doctor or no doctor at all? My local hospital has a lot of indian M.D's because good white doctors just don't apply or stay. Do you lower standards to become a Dr or import doctors? Should those people be able property rights? View Quote After they become a US citizen |
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90% of the homes in my neighborhood are owned by Indians.
Vey nice people to have as neighbors in my experience. I would expect that many of them will eventually transfer to other locations and would want to keep their current house as a rental property if they can afford to. No big conspiracy. Quoted: They probably bought the home while attending University then moved back home and just rent it out for the income. I don't see the issue if it's just some rando Indian dude....as they don't have the ability to actually move a market and manipulate it like Zillow, Black Rock etc. View Quote |
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Quoted: "Enjoy your free markets and capitalism when the demographic that allowed for that is the minority" Dudes advocating for a white ethnostate, what else would you like to call it? Most people that talk about the white race becoming the minority are in fact racist. Also the white race is already a minority from a global standpoint. View Quote Question for you: why is immigration promoted from all but white countries? Could it maybe be that people are merely seeking equal protecion for whites rather than preferential treatment for everyone else? Could it be that the citizens of a nation want their supposedly representative government to represent their interests rather than those of foreign nationals? |
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The H1B visa issue is different from allowing foreigners to own houses in the US.
We absolutely should shut down most H1B visas from India. And we should tax the hell out of any company sending jobs to India. If California and New Jersey can tax UX residents for leaving their States we should be able to do something similar to companies moving jobs overseas. Quoted: The US does not need these H1B people. Cut the H1B and related programs by 98-99.3% and deport them. View Quote |
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Quoted: There shoujld be some lawyer that would eat their ass if so I would assume View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: They probably bought the home while attending University then moved back home and just rent it out for the income. I don't see the issue if it's just some rando Indian dude....as they don't have the ability to actually move a market and manipulate it like Zillow, Black Rock etc. There shoujld be some lawyer that would eat their ass if so I would assume They, infosys and wipro, have been sued a few times but he's right about hiring practices. If an Indian manager gets in, non-Indians are on their way out usually in less than 18 months. |
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