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Posted: 5/1/2024 10:47:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spasm: For those who say MTG is wrong to do this because we could get worse....help me understand how it can be worse? He looked promising. He has literally passed everything the Dems want and done nothing we want. Whats the point in him being there? I honestly think they have something on him. He has pushed legislation that he routinely voted against before he was speaker...he was always against money for Ukraine and now boom sending them sacks full of cash. Makes no sense. We have no need to compromise with Dems here, and in this case just bending over giving them what they want. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 10:48:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Morlawn66]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd341: The speaker has control of what gets scheduled for a vote. The speaker is a republican who's constituents didn't support this deal. If the tables were turned Pelosi would have never held that vote...never. Why put Republicans in power if they don't know what to do with it? Johnson could have withheld funding for things that most R's are totally opposed to . He did NOTHING . |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 10:55:23 AM EDT
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I hope the Democrat majority leader gets canned. Enough of the RINO Republicans!
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MS, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 10:57:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd341: The speaker has control of what gets scheduled for a vote. The speaker is a republican who's constituents didn't support this deal. If the tables were turned Pelosi would have never held that vote...never. Why put Republicans in power if they don't know what to do with it? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd341: Originally Posted By Low_Country: Republicans have like a 2 person majority in the 435 member house. Many of whom do support Ukraine funding. The democrats control the senate and WH. The republicans simply don't have a seat at the head of the table right now. And the likes of MTG throwing a temper tantrum everytime she doesn't get her way only works to keep it that way. If the tables were turned Pelosi would have never held that vote...never. Why put Republicans in power if they don't know what to do with it? It isn't that simple. Republicans have a problem with supporting leadership. They allow themselves to get caught up in democrat/media-created narratives that turn everyone against each other. When you can't agree to stick together on something as simple as border security, then there is no point holding onto power and using it to thwart opponents. You are simply going to lose due to being undermined. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 11:04:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By XxbatraiderxX: It isn't that simple. Republicans have a problem with supporting leadership. They allow themselves to get caught up in democrat/media-created narratives that turn everyone against each other. When you can't agree to stick together on something as simple as border security, then there is no point holding onto power and using it to thwart opponents. You are simply going to lose due to being undermined. It would help tremendously to have a unifier nominated for the Repubclican nominee instead of a divider. But... nope. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 11:05:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By XxbatraiderxX: It isn't that simple. Republicans have a problem with supporting leadership. They allow themselves to get caught up in democrat/media-created narratives that turn everyone against each other. When you can't agree to stick together on something as simple as border security, then there is no point holding onto power and using it to thwart opponents. You are simply going to lose due to being undermined. Did I just read some political analysis from you I fundamentally agree with?  
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USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 11:11:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PeepEater: Firing a less than perfect friend to get an enemy as a replacement seems tactically misguided The fact that the democrats want to save him pretty much says he's a democratic pupet. Actually anyone who supports money for Ukraine is a democrat and enemy of the US. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 11:12:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low_Country: And then one day, for no reason at all, the republicans lost control of the house, the senate, and the WH. So the same as right now? |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 11:12:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sawgunner73: Unless MTG or Matt Gaetz put their hat in the ring for Speaker, no R in the House will be pure enough for those two. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sawgunner73: Originally Posted By callgood: Who else would be dumb enough to put his/her name in the hat for Speaker of the House?  MTG?Unless MTG or Matt Gaetz put their hat in the ring for Speaker, no R in the House will be pure enough for those two.  |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 11:13:55 AM EDT
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He's in no danger. He's still got some more work to do to ensure the Biden agenda continues to progress so he'll get more than enough votes from the Ds.
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KY, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 11:18:56 AM EDT
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If/when Speaker Jeffries takes the gavel, will that be the time we should all celebrate? The R majority is paper thin, and a defection or two would do it. At least then the R reps can become semi-useless opposition like many seem to prefer.
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Posted: 5/1/2024 11:25:25 AM EDT
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"The swamp is on the run. MAGA is ascendant. If you don't think that moving from Kevin McCarthy to MAGA Mike Johnson shows ascendance of this movement and where the power in the Republican Party truly lies, then you're not paying attention. He's gonna do great things for the country."
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Posted: 5/1/2024 11:26:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PeepEater: Firing a less than perfect friend to get an enemy as a replacement seems tactically misguided Keeping a less than perfect friend who capitulated to the enemy ain’t all that smart either |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 11:32:57 AM EDT
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With the Budget, Debt Cap Deal, and UKE funding he and McCarthy already gave away every bit of leverage we had. There is really nothing left to do until after the election.
What is apparent is that about 40% of Republicans in congress are really no different than moderate Democrats. This contingent and the Democrats are the Uniparty. Bought out by the Chamber of Commerce and the Military Industrial Complex. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 11:50:15 AM EDT
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How did your rep vote? Mine voted "nay".
How did your rep vote? Mine voted "nay". How did your rep vote? MIne voted "nay". You should bitch at your own reps if they voted for these bills. 
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Posted: 5/1/2024 11:53:13 AM EDT
[#16]
Dems have his back. He is now an open leader of the state and all of our current policies.
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Posted: 5/1/2024 11:57:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mooreshawnm: Dems have his back. He is now an open leader of the state and all of our current policies. Amazing how quick it happened. Blackmail material, threats, bribery, or all of the above? |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 11:58:09 AM EDT
[#18]
Horse face needs a muzzle.
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Posted: 5/1/2024 11:58:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By a390st: If/when Speaker Jeffries takes the gavel, will that be the time we should all celebrate? The R majority is paper thin, and a defection or two would do it. At least then the R reps can become semi-useless opposition like many seem to prefer. Yes because the charade will have finally ended and reality will be staring all of us in the face. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 11:58:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tallahasseezz: Amazing how quick it happened. Blackmail material, threats, bribery, or all of the above? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tallahasseezz: Originally Posted By mooreshawnm: Dems have his back. He is now an open leader of the state and all of our current policies. Amazing how quick it happened. Blackmail material, threats, bribery, or all of the above? Probably all of the above. They're pretty thorough. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:01:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Walleyeguy24: He deserves the boot after putting that shit bill to a floor vote. The problem is there is nobody to replace him that can actually win.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:05:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tallahasseezz: With the Budget, Debt Cap Deal, and UKE funding he and McCarthy already gave away every bit of leverage we had. There is really nothing left to do until after the election. What is apparent is that about 40% of Republicans in congress are really no different than moderate Democrats. This contingent and the Democrats are the Uniparty. Bought out by the Chamber of Commerce and the Military Industrial Complex. This . I'd call my Congressman but he's leaving . |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:07:42 PM EDT
[#23]
Good! It won't make any difference in the long run but it does send the message that Republicans who cater to the Dems won't be tolerated.
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:10:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MFP_4073: ridiculous will accomplish nothing -- just more dysfunction BTW : Trump SUPPORTS Johnson https://www.newsmax.com/politics/donald-trump-support-mike-johnson/2024/04/23/id/1162046/ Well he supported Ryan and McCarthy too, so... |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:10:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PeepEater: Firing a less than perfect friend to get an enemy as a replacement seems tactically misguided Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PeepEater: Originally Posted By M4-AK: If he isn't on our side, then do it. Firing a less than perfect friend to get an enemy as a replacement seems tactically misguided His new friends show he’s more of an enemy than a less than perfect friend. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:11:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By craig24680: More infighting to detract from real issues Funding the DNC agenda isnt a real issue? Huh.. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:13:49 PM EDT
[#27]
Great. I’m sure whoever they replace him with will be much better
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:14:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ZitiForBreakfast]
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low_Country: And then one day, for no reason at all, the republicans lost control of the house, the senate, and the WH. They never do anything with it..They're afraid of leadership, power and they are more comfortable acting as victims. DNC controls DC, the agenda of the GOP and the purse no matter what the status of "power" is. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:17:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By XxbatraiderxX: It isn't that simple. Republicans have a problem with supporting leadership. They allow themselves to get caught up in democrat/media-created narratives that turn everyone against each other. When you can't agree to stick together on something as simple as border security, then there is no point holding onto power and using it to thwart opponents. You are simply going to lose due to being undermined. If you don't at least try to fire his ass for that, there is no accountability in government at all and there won't be until something dramatic happens. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:17:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: We got you, fam. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/172926/dems_png-3202774.JPG LOL Dumborats will ALL vote to kick out Johnson, lean back and watch the GOP turn on each other. I can't believe anyone is dumb enough to fall for it. But then we are talking about MTG, the AOC of the right. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:18:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By a390st: If/when Speaker Jeffries takes the gavel, will that be the time we should all celebrate? The R majority is paper thin, and a defection or two would do it. At least then the R reps can become semi-useless opposition like many seem to prefer. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:20:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low_Country: And then one day, for no reason at all, the republicans lost control of the house, the senate, and the WH. When republicans owned the house, the senate and the WH, they failed to pass anything that their constituent's wanted. Repeal Obama Care, HPA, Tax Relief, Birdwr Security. The list goes on. We are in an abusive relationship with our government. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:21:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Abakan: LOL Dumborats will ALL vote to kick out Johnson, lean back and watch the GOP turn on each other. I can't believe anyone is dumb enough to fall for it. But then we are talking about MTG, the AOC of the right. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:22:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tallahasseezz: Amazing how quick it happened. Blackmail material, threats, bribery, or all of the above? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tallahasseezz: Originally Posted By mooreshawnm: Dems have his back. He is now an open leader of the state and all of our current policies. Amazing how quick it happened. Blackmail material, threats, bribery, or all of the above? AIPAC donations. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:22:09 PM EDT
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Mike Johnson is a piece of shit and no better than scumbag left who are destroying our country. Make Politicians Afraid of The People Again. Says a whole lot when communist assholes of the democrat party try to save a "republican" in the house. FUCK MIKE JOHNSON.
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:24:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lug1: Ask yourself, WHY DOES NOBODY WANT THAT JOB? Matt Gaetz explained a lot of the reasons last time. The Speaker is required to raise funds for the party, as in millions of dollars a day. That only is possible if the wealthy businesses owners donate. Both Democrat and Republican business owners want influence, so he has to appeal to both parties. The job is basically sucking up to donors and making them promises. The American people come last which is what we see. Johnson's agenda is the exact same agenda McCarthy was trying to push. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:25:07 PM EDT
[#37]
For fuck's sake...
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:26:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Krater]
[#38]
We need a real Trump conservative, somebody DJT has personally vetted in the Speaker seat. The beautiful thing is - they don't even have to be a Congressman to be the speaker. With that in mind, I have some suggestions from Trump's first term cabinet:
Bill Barr Rex Tillerson Mick Mulvaney Betsy Devos and finally, the one man who was arguably closest to Donald for years and years. Super close relationship, will be sure to do a great job. Michael Cohen |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:27:03 PM EDT
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Quote Historypretty much.
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:27:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: lazyengineer]
[#40]
(screw it - call it double post of the same point)
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:28:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Krater: We need a real Trump conservative, somebody DJT has personally vetted in the Speaker seat. The beautiful thing is - they don't even have to be a Congressman to be the speaker. With that in mind, I have some suggestions from Trump's first term cabinet: Bill Barr Rex Tillerson Mick Mulvaney Betsy Devos and finally, the one man who was arguably closest to Donald for years and years. Super close relationship, will be sure to do a great job. Michael Cohen Bringing back Mad Dog will really be beneficial. It will help stave off the globalists and climatnistas. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:29:29 PM EDT
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I don't understand why our strategy seems so hard for them.
Worst alternative to a negotiated agreement (WATNA) should be the basis to every attempt at compromise and the republicans come out better with no compromise. The WATNA for us is a government shut down, yes the media always blames the republicans, but that is not going to change the votes of anyone voting for either side. So you end up with a government that can't do much, that is a huge win for the repub side and for America. The less the gov does the better. If the repubs can ignore the media (which again won't change votes) eventually the dems will cave because their donors/special interests won't be getting the kickbacks. If the repubs just wait a month or two the dems will probably agree to whatever they want in order to get the kickback machine turned back on. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:29:49 PM EDT
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He's done a great job snatching defeat from the jaws of victory - it's what R's do best!
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:31:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Krater: We need a real Trump conservative, somebody DJT has personally vetted in the Speaker seat. The beautiful thing is - they don't even have to be a Congressman to be the speaker. With that in mind, I have some suggestions from Trump's first term cabinet: Bill Barr Rex Tillerson Mick Mulvaney Betsy Devos and finally, the one man who was arguably closest to Donald for years and years. Super close relationship, will be sure to do a great job. Michael Cohen If not 
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:33:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OldGlazier: Probably all of the above. They're pretty thorough. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OldGlazier: Originally Posted By Tallahasseezz: Originally Posted By mooreshawnm: Dems have his back. He is now an open leader of the state and all of our current policies. Amazing how quick it happened. Blackmail material, threats, bribery, or all of the above? Probably all of the above. They're pretty thorough. I think he’s appeasing RINOs whom would otherwise resign and cost Republicans the House majority. He threw them a bone with the Ukraine deal. That’s my suspicion anyway. It was a shitty bill, and I can’t defend any aspect of it. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:33:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: He's worse than McCarthy. Out! Out! Out! Or Paul Ryan for that matter. 
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:34:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By redseven11b: This. He's going nowhere Make them vote for it. Both dems and neocons. It's time for each to declare their allegiances in the open. You can't win a war while you have the enemy within. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:34:36 PM EDT
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Good, he's a bum
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:36:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sjm1582002: Johnson has proven to be a typical "Bush League" politician of the kind we were warned about. "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself." --Cicero |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:36:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd341: The speaker has control of what gets scheduled for a vote. The speaker is a republican who's constituents didn't support this deal. If the tables were turned Pelosi would have never held that vote...never. Why put Republicans in power if they don't know what to do with it? |
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