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Posted: 4/30/2024 9:57:16 PM EDT
I have been kicking around a SxS (UTV) for a couple of years now. This would be my first one. I have a 20 year old Honda Rubicon ATV with close to 20k on the odometer and it has never given me any problems. I know the UTV purchase would be different.
I am more interested in a "sport" model for trail riding, etc than a "farm" model with a dump bed and stuff like that. New prices are a bit out of my league. Sure, I'd love to drop 40k+ on the latest and greatest but thats not going to happen. I'm just looking for feedback on the various brands, etc. I am eyeing a 2023 Polaris RZR with 1600 on the odometer. A buddy of mine really poopoos on Polaris citing frequency of warranty repairs, but I think his opinion is skewed because Polaris is the biggest seller in my AO. I'm an open book. School me GD. 
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Posted: 4/30/2024 10:05:30 PM EDT
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It's not just fast vs utility, it's race car level maintanence vs tractor level maintanence.
One friend has an RZR, the other has a Honda Pioneer. When the Pioneer is due for an oil change, the RZR needs a new belt and a clutch rebuilt. Sure its fast, but damn. Also figure out if you are riding wide open dunes and trails, or hitting the 50" wide stuff restricted to ATVs and dirtbikes. Those trails have far less idiots. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 4/30/2024 10:08:13 PM EDT
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My cousin in law and his father have enough money, they could own any of them. For the combo of dump bed, sxs, seats 4+, they went with Honda Pioneers.
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Posted: 4/30/2024 10:08:32 PM EDT
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Can-Am all the way. RZRs live at the dealership.
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Posted: 4/30/2024 10:09:45 PM EDT
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My 2014 CanAm Commander 1000 XT has NEVER let me down. Ten years old and runs like it was brand new. Been all over Moab, Colorado and more and more. We use it EVERY day around our place. Best vehicle purchase I've ever made.
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Posted: 4/30/2024 10:09:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rock_Ranger: It's not just fast vs utility, it's race car level maintanence vs tractor level maintanence. One friend has an RZR, the other has a Honda Pioneer. When the Pioneer is due for an oil change, the RZR needs a new belt and a clutch rebuilt. Sure its fast, but damn. Also figure out if you are riding wide open dunes and trails, or hitting the 50" wide stuff restricted to ATVs and dirtbikes. Those trails have far less idiots. I am looking at a RZR 1000 non-turbo. It puts down a modest 110hp. The latest and greatest RZRs now have a full on 4 cylinder in them and are putting out 240hp+ which is crazy insane to me. The width on this one is 64" so I wouldnt be going on "ATV only" trails. |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 10:10:24 PM EDT
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I race them, hence my user name. If you want some fun doing general trail riding, some work around the farm etc - I personally like the Honda Talon. It's a dual clutch transmission, auto or paddle shift. No belts.
If you must have belt I'd consider a Yamaha Rmaxx before I'd consider a Polaris. If you want to go fast as hell, Canam X3 turbo. I have a personal preference for my Yamaha YXZ. However I race in harescramble/woods races, and I really like the 5spd manual transmission. It's also easy to work on. Running 10psi boost I am getting 205hp to the wheels. It scoots. |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 10:11:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ARMinnesota]
[#7]
I went from quads to utv 2 years ago. My wife wanted to be a passenger Instead of driving her own machine. It's been great and we ride more often. I bought the fastest machine available and it's fun but yeah the performance machines generally need more maintenance.
Canam maverick DS X3 RR. Hot as hell and loud inside. We won't even ride if it's mid 80's and above. |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 10:11:51 PM EDT
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I'd put Polaris at the bottom of the list.
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Posted: 4/30/2024 10:11:59 PM EDT
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Polaris is known for catching fire. I had a Can Am Maverick X3 XDS (64” model). Loved it, lots of fun and the 64” width allowed me to get into some tight trails but still would rather have the 72” wide model. Can Ams are also are almost unbearable in the cab with the clutch noise. They are loud. Haven’t rode in a new one but supposedly they are a lot quieter. Turbo models make me giggle…but can be a lot to handle on trails and when crawling.
Kawasaki is making waves in the sport SxS world even though underpowered. They are getting popular with the crawling crowd as they have a phenomenal suspension and are a hell of a lot cheaper to get into. They just lack aftermarket support but it’ll come around. Stay away from Hondas and Yamahas, IMO. Shock Therapy on YouTube has some great videos that go in depth on each manufacturer’s suspension. |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 10:14:45 PM EDT
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I hated Honda quads but they’re the only SxS I would own after using a few dozen in Alaska (besides utility ones). Pioneer or Talon get my vote.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/30/2024 10:15:31 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aspida1776: My cousin in law and his father have enough money, they could own any of them. For the combo of dump bed, sxs, seats 4+, they went with Honda Pioneers. https://www.superatv.com/media/catalog/product/h/o/honda_pioneer_6_inch_lift_kit_1_1.jpg?auto=webp&format=pjpg&quality=70&optimize=high&crop=1:33:1&width=1600 So they picked a 2 seat model that an engineer decided to throw 2 more seats in the back  . Never heard of the General or Commander
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Posted: 4/30/2024 10:21:35 PM EDT
[#12]
Also, I am 100% after a two seater. Its just the old lady and me.
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Posted: 4/30/2024 10:23:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GlutealCleft]
[#13]
Originally Posted By LexDiamonds: I am more interested in a "sport" model for trail riding, etc than a "farm" model with a dump bed and stuff like that. First thing... suspension travel and quality of shocks are one of the FIRST things you should look at, they'll determine whether you're getting jolted around enough to hurt your neck or whether you don't even notice the bumps. You want around 12" of travel minimum, with name-brand shocks (Fox, King, etc.), not the generic OEM shocks on base models. After that, track width helps with stability, but depends on whether your trails are width-restricted. But even if you don't plan on going fast, you (and especially your passenger) will REALLY thank you for the better suspension. As for power... on actual trails, not dune/desert racing, you'll run out of suspension long before you run out of power. |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 10:25:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Firespecialist: Polaris is known for catching fire. I had a Can Am Maverick X3 XDS (64” model). Loved it, lots of fun and the 64” width allowed me to get into some tight trails but still would rather have the 72” wide model. Can Ams are also are almost unbearable in the cab with the clutch noise. They are loud. Haven’t rode in a new one but supposedly they are a lot quieter. Turbo models make me giggle…but can be a lot to handle on trails and when crawling. Kawasaki is making waves in the sport SxS world even though underpowered. They are getting popular with the crawling crowd as they have a phenomenal suspension and are a hell of a lot cheaper to get into. They just lack aftermarket support but it’ll come around. Stay away from Hondas and Yamahas, IMO. Shock Therapy on YouTube has some great videos that go in depth on each manufacturer’s suspension. Curious why the Honda and Yamaha hate? Talons are pretty good trail machines. Not spectacular for racing. Torquey motors. I've heard of expensive transmission repairs, but I'd still take that over a belt. Yamaha - admittedly outdated suspension design, kind of a minimalist setup, but sporty and fun. New 2024 has a 6 spd trans manual or paddle. Idk to each his own, in my experience the Yamaha has been very easy to work on, I've had mine down to the frame many times. Canned Hams, Polaris - not as easy to service. |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 10:29:47 PM EDT
[#15]
Polaris is always breaking and the build is just not great . We have multiple.
They sure are proud of the new ones but all of them are expensive. There are these stores in Central and North Florida called “Ride Now”. We have patronized them some in past but they are ridiculous. I went in today to look at some accessories smdcrenered why I don’t like them. Arrogant bunch inside with 4 different women employees ignoring customers and looking at their phones. Another female appeared to be a dike in a motocross get up. Several salesmen dudes kicked back looking cool. I looked around a few minutes and did not see what I was looking for and it was a bit obvious. Nope, they were locked in on their phones and whatever. Think we are goin to go elsewhere in future. |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 10:36:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tjcj: So they picked a 2 seat model that an engineer decided to throw 2 more seats in the back . Never heard of the General or CommanderQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tjcj: Originally Posted By Aspida1776: My cousin in law and his father have enough money, they could own any of them. For the combo of dump bed, sxs, seats 4+, they went with Honda Pioneers. https://www.superatv.com/media/catalog/product/h/o/honda_pioneer_6_inch_lift_kit_1_1.jpg?auto=webp&format=pjpg&quality=70&optimize=high&crop=1:33:1&width=1600 So they picked a 2 seat model that an engineer decided to throw 2 more seats in the back . Never heard of the General or CommanderGuess they just arent as smart as you cause, man, you are. |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 10:39:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LexDiamonds: Also, I am 100% after a two seater. Its just the old lady and me.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 10:40:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By YXZ1000R: Curious why the Honda and Yamaha hate? |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 10:41:26 PM EDT
[#19]
They're mostly owned by D-bags. Make sure and get some white framed sunglasses
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Posted: 4/30/2024 10:50:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gunhand1: They're mostly owned by D-bags. Make sure and get some white framed sunglasses Not a D-Bag. Just looking to have some fun. |
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AK, USA
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Posted: 4/30/2024 10:55:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: feetpiece]
[#21]
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UT, USA
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Posted: 4/30/2024 10:58:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Whiskey1Alpha]
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I have a RZR, friend has a CanAm.
I'm not driving it like an idiot. I keep up with maintenance. I don't do anything special with it, and it seems like every other time I take it out, something is fucking broken and needs replaced. If not that, some weird fucking electrical issue that can't get diagnosed and then just goes away on its own all of a sudden. Also Polaris are either the dumbest or the laziest people alive who will go to lengths to try and band aid recall issues any way they can as opposed to actually spending $15 to permeantly fix the problem. Friend's CanAm seems to break less, but when something does its expensive. |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 11:00:57 PM EDT
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I have a Polaris general and the comments say I fucked up I guess.
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Posted: 4/30/2024 11:03:27 PM EDT
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I’ve owned 3 Polaris machines without issue. My current ride is the General 1000 and for a do it all machine it’s the bees knees.
Goes plenty fast enough for me. Hauls me and my gear all over the deer lease. |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 11:05:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: USCG_CPO]
[#25]
OP, I have a Kubota Sidekick and work the shit out of it. It is not as fast as some of them but I got mine to work and casual play. A 3 cyl Subaru gas engine, governed to 41 mph which is plenty fast for farm use. Metal bed with 1,000 lb capacity, 2,000 lb tow capacity.
I will be honest and say I have overloaded mine in the bed and tow capacity and it didnt let me down. It has locking dif, 4 low, 4 high and regular 2 wheel drive. Never had an issue in 3 years. The are around $14K and Kubota always has zero percent interest. 
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Posted: 4/30/2024 11:06:38 PM EDT
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I don't know anything about them but my buddy has one of some sort
  .I'm sure it's nothing fancy, but we took the boys out around Boulder (MT) around March a couple years back and that thing kicked the shit out of my Jeep TJ in snow covered mountain roads. Granted he had knobbies and I had Hankook Dynapro ATs with some miles on them, might have helped to have decent tires or chained up but we didn't make it too far in and I was too sketched out to keep following him. Good luck in your search, they look fun. |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 11:14:30 PM EDT
[#27]
Just depends. Look at the power plants. I'm very partial to Kawi Teryx and Yamaha Viking and Wolverines. My old Yamaha Rhino's power plant was in use for over 10 years in other offroad machines. Just bulletproof.
Stay away from RZRs. What's your budget? |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 11:14:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mike3000fl]
[#28]
Canam X3 in whatever flavor floats your boat...
XRC for rock crawling XDS for 64" narrow trails XRS for full 72" width and speed MAX versions are four seaters Turbo RR version is most HP come on over to maverickforums.net if you want to research |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 11:18:06 PM EDT
[#29]
Whoever said sport models take more maintenance might be onto something. Neighbor I fish with like to take his smoking fast razor up the mountain, except it’s usually in the shop lol. We take my Yamaha most of the time, it’s never in the shop.
 Attached FileNot fast Not sexy Climbs like a goat and always gets us back. |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 11:28:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USCG_CPO: OP, I have a Kubota Sidekick and work the shit out of it. It is not as fast as some of them but I got mine to work and casual play. A 3 cyl Subaru gas engine, governed to 41 mph which is plenty fast for farm use. Metal bed with 1,000 lb capacity, 2,000 lb tow capacity. I will be honest and say I have overloaded mine in the bed and tow capacity and it didnt let me down. It has locking dif, 4 low, 4 high and regular 2 wheel drive. Never had an issue in 3 years. The are around $14K and Kubota always has zero percent interest. https://cdn-fastly.atv.com/media/2022/10/24/8778326/2018-kubota-rtv-xg850-sidekick-review.jpg?size=1200x628 @uscg_cpo Pics of yours? We are going to get a kubota tractor. If we can do zero percent financing on both as a package deal that’s a win. I prefer Japanese made for everything. It’s quality. |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 11:32:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9divdoc]
[#31]
Just got a Yamaha Wolverine R-MAX after doing a lot of research...big sale on too.
Best belt tech...imo |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 11:34:02 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: @uscg_cpo Pics of yours? We are going to get a kubota tractor. If we can do zero percent financing on both as a package deal that’s a win. I prefer Japanese made for everything. It’s quality. Those aren't made in Japan |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 11:35:48 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ACEB36TC: My 2014 CanAm Commander 1000 XT has NEVER let me down. Ten years old and runs like it was brand new. Been all over Moab, Colorado and more and more. We use it EVERY day around our place. Best vehicle purchase I've ever made. I beat the living dogshit out of my Commander for 7 years. Jumping, rolling, dozing, etc. Never had a single failure on them. I’ve got a Defender now that I treat gently. Got that young and dumb out of my system with the Commander. We’ve had 5 Can Ams in our family, and the only failure was a single fuel pump on my Defender after about 3 weeks of nasty riding in mood dust. After looking in the fuel screen it was full of the dust, and I’m assuming it was the cause of the failure. I can’t blame that on the machine at all. |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 11:37:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: USCG_CPO]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: @uscg_cpo Pics of yours? We are going to get a kubota tractor. If we can do zero percent financing on both as a package deal that’s a win. I prefer Japanese made for everything. It’s quality. @fadedsun After almost 3 years of use, I dont have one bad thing to say about it and mine gets a lot of use.EDIT: Found some on my phone. Here is a pic from a couple months ago, that’s a 14 foot trailer it’s pulling.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 11:38:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9divdoc: Just got a Yamaha Wolverine R-MAX after doing a lot of research...big sale on too. Best belt tech...imo 8 or 10 year belt warranty says something. My 19 Wolverine just goes, and this was before I put good tires on. We went to the top of this picture, first tracks.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 11:53:45 PM EDT
[#36]
Y’all don’t want to hear about a John Deere Gator XUV.
Won’t go faster than 32 MPH, tow more than 2,000 lbs, or haul more than 1,400 lbs in the bed. Nothing sexy or fun about it, but it keeps getting the job done. Not sure there is a bad UTV out there today, to be honest. I doubt 1% of the riders/users/drivers would max one out if they bought based on the strong points of any model. |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 11:55:08 PM EDT
[#37]
lol, OP wants something fast and fun, without dump beds.
everyone posts pics of off road golf cart utility sxs with dump beds. lol. seriously either go Polaris RZR or Canam X3 |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:07:15 AM EDT
[#38]
Make sure you get the loudest exhaust possible. Only operate while consuming beer and chucking the empties on the trail. Fire it up and drive everywhere at redline while everyone else in the National Forest is trying to sleep at 2am.
This has been a primer on proper SxS ownership and usage. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:07:35 AM EDT
[#39]
We enjoy our general. Same 1000 motor as the rzr, plenty of suspension unless your ripping the dunes, more comfortable seats then the rzr and comes with a factory winch.
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:13:12 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike3000fl: lol, OP wants something fast and fun, without dump beds. everyone posts pics of off road golf cart utility sxs with dump beds. lol. seriously either go Polaris RZR or Canam X3 You're right, I misread his OP but one person benefited from my post so not all is lost. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:14:32 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bondryan: We enjoy our general. Same 1000 motor as the rzr, plenty of suspension unless your ripping the dunes, more comfortable seats then the rzr and comes with a factory winch. https://i.imgur.com/lc3Dm1C.jpg Also a great deal in comparison to most quads out there. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:16:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bondryan: We enjoy our general. Same 1000 motor as the rzr, plenty of suspension unless your ripping the dunes, more comfortable seats then the rzr and comes with a factory winch. https://i.imgur.com/lc3Dm1C.jpg Your car needs my sign.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 12:21:08 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aspida1776: Guess they just arent as smart as you cause, man, you are. Whatever |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 1:03:37 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USCG_CPO: OP, I have a Kubota Sidekick and work the shit out of it. It is not as fast as some of them but I got mine to work and casual play. A 3 cyl Subaru gas engine, governed to 41 mph which is plenty fast for farm use. Metal bed with 1,000 lb capacity, 2,000 lb tow capacity. I will be honest and say I have overloaded mine in the bed and tow capacity and it didnt let me down. It has locking dif, 4 low, 4 high and regular 2 wheel drive. Never had an issue in 3 years. The are around $14K and Kubota always has zero percent interest. https://cdn-fastly.atv.com/media/2022/10/24/8778326/2018-kubota-rtv-xg850-sidekick-review.jpg?size=1200x628 The one real downside to the XG-850: It's fucking retarded way too twitchy throttle control; it's especially a PITA at low speed and worse for reverse. I'm surprised that there aren't class action lawsuits against Kubota for that clusterfuck.  |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 1:05:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9divdoc: Those aren't made in Japan Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 9divdoc: Originally Posted By fadedsun: @uscg_cpo Pics of yours? We are going to get a kubota tractor. If we can do zero percent financing on both as a package deal that's a win. I prefer Japanese made for everything. It's quality. Those aren't made in Japan |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 1:15:21 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aspida1776: My cousin in law and his father have enough money, they could own any of them. For the combo of dump bed, sxs, seats 4+, they went with Honda Pioneers. https://www.superatv.com/media/catalog/product/h/o/honda_pioneer_6_inch_lift_kit_1_1.jpg?auto=webp&format=pjpg&quality=70&optimize=high&crop=1:33:1&width=1600 |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 1:17:23 AM EDT
[#47]
Who makes the quietest SxS? We rented a Razr a few times and they are so loud I can't hear anything over the engine noise.
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Posted: 5/1/2024 1:25:18 AM EDT
[#48]
The honda talon is pretty decent. I think they moved to a gen 2 machine in 2022. The transmission problems are the result of moving from high range to low range while still moving. The maintenance on them is not difficult, all fluids can be changed in 1 hr.
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Posted: 5/1/2024 1:50:21 AM EDT
[#49]
The upper pic is my 2013 RZR 570, just had the motor rebuilt.
It's my fishing and hunting rig and right now I'm looking for a small toyhauler trailer for it. So I can take it camping with me. It's been to quite a few small Wyoming lakes and is awesome on the trail. The lower pic is my 2023 Kawasaki KRX 1000. It's faster, rides better and is far more comfortable than my RZR. This is the one I take when me and my friends ride in the South Hills or to Jarbridge from Salmon Dam. Test drive a few and see which you like most. The Honda Talon is built like a brick and rides like one. Arctic Cats and Can Ams have seats that sit low like a dune buggy. I like how the KRX sits higher.  
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Posted: 5/1/2024 2:07:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: fadedsun]
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike3000fl: lol, OP wants something fast and fun, without dump beds. everyone posts pics of off road golf cart utility sxs with dump beds. lol. seriously either go Polaris RZR or Canam X3 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike3000fl: lol, OP wants something fast and fun, without dump beds. everyone posts pics of off road golf cart utility sxs with dump beds. lol. seriously either go Polaris RZR or Canam X3 USCG posted some good info here. I am looking for a SXS to use at our ranch. Haven't decided if it's gonna be one of the kei trucks or a Kubota like USCG's. Originally Posted By USCG_CPO: @fadedsun After almost 3 years of use, I dont have one bad thing to say about it and mine gets a lot of use.EDIT: Found some on my phone. Here is a pic from a couple months ago, that’s a 14 foot trailer it’s pulling. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/249630/IMG_5697_jpeg-3202517.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/249630/IMG_5698_jpeg-3202518.JPG That's cool as hell and answers the questions I have about it pulling our 10 foot single trailer  Originally Posted By USCG_CPO: You're right, I misread his OP but one person benefited from my post so not all is lost. Thank you for posting what you did! I am looking into them. Originally Posted By 9divdoc: Those aren't made in Japan Japanese designed 
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