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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:39:54 AM EDT
Destiny's main goal right now is survival. The 21-year-old grew up in foster care in Florida and left the foster-care system at 16. Retail jobs helped her save enough money for an apartment, and she eventually became a manager at Family Dollar. She enrolled in college and maintained straight A's for a while. But Destiny, who asked to go by only her first name for fear of personal and professional repercussions, began to suffer from overwork while having multiple jobs during the pandemic, and her mental health faltered. "I feel for those who are in my shoes and don't have a connection or a home base," said Destiny, who now lives in a small apartment in Alabama with her boyfriend. "You think you're alone, but there are so many of us who are in this situation. We're hopeless, feel like a failure, and we want to get it together. We just need better resources and time." Eventually, Destiny dropped out of college and quit her job. She's struggled to get medication for her OCD and find stable employment beyond part-time gig work. She knows she's not alone in feeling stuck when it comes to investing in education or finding the right job. "When I was a general manager, when I would hire people, I was hiring people who had master's" degrees, Destiny said. "They just couldn't find a job that used that degree or jobs they just weren't qualified enough for with their experience. I think a degree now is just pretty much a baseline education for most people with jobs." A growing group of America's young people are not in school, not working, or not looking for work. They're called "disconnected youth" or "opportunity youth," and their ranks have been growing for nearly three decades. Experts say it's not just work and school; this group is often also disconnected from a sense of purpose. It's creating a tale of two Gen Zs: those who have followed traditional milestones and others who are increasingly getting left behind. These aren't all young people taking gap years the disconnected youth Business Insider spoke with want education and good jobs but are partly victims of economic circumstances outside their control. And that might cost them. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:41:40 AM EDT
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This thread should be civil.
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NV, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:44:25 AM EDT
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Stop helping except in extreme cases.
Sink or swim bitches. I think the kids will find a way if they were raised with morals and ethics. If not there's always only fans and selling crack!
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:44:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eagarminuteman: This thread should be civil. Four timeouts, two bans, 87 mod edits, and a thread lock….
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:45:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eagarminuteman: This thread should be civil. order yourself a plate of delicious cado toast and get your stahbucks and iphone and settle in.
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:45:34 AM EDT
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Zoomers are just a made up generation of millenials that boomers created to make older millenials feel better about themselves.
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:45:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scoobysmak: Four timeouts, two bans, 87 mod edits, and a thread lock…. Nah, the thread is about zoomers. Not Ukraine. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:45:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scoobysmak: Four timeouts, two bans, 87 mod edits, and a thread lock .  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:46:01 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: Destiny's main goal right now is survival. The 21-year-old grew up in foster care in Florida and left the foster-care system at 16. Retail jobs helped her save enough money for an apartment, and she eventually became a manager at Family Dollar. She enrolled in college and maintained straight A's for a while. But Destiny, who asked to go by only her first name for fear of personal and professional repercussions, began to suffer from overwork while having multiple jobs during the pandemic, and her mental health faltered. "I feel for those who are in my shoes and don't have a connection or a home base," said Destiny, who now lives in a small apartment in Alabama with her boyfriend. "You think you're alone, but there are so many of us who are in this situation. We're hopeless, feel like a failure, and we want to get it together. We just need better resources and time." Eventually, Destiny dropped out of college and quit her job. She's struggled to get medication for her OCD and find stable employment beyond part-time gig work. She knows she's not alone in feeling stuck when it comes to investing in education or finding the right job. "When I was a general manager, when I would hire people, I was hiring people who had master's" degrees, Destiny said. "They just couldn't find a job that used that degree or jobs they just weren't qualified enough for with their experience. I think a degree now is just pretty much a baseline education for most people with jobs." A growing group of America's young people are not in school, not working, or not looking for work. They're called "disconnected youth" or "opportunity youth," and their ranks have been growing for nearly three decades. Experts say it's not just work and school; this group is often also disconnected from a sense of purpose. It's creating a tale of two Gen Zs: those who have followed traditional milestones and others who are increasingly getting left behind. These aren't all young people taking gap years the disconnected youth Business Insider spoke with want education and good jobs but are partly victims of economic circumstances outside their control. And that might cost them. she's done all that by the time she;s 21? yeah, I'm throwing the bullshit flag on this one |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:46:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: you know it, good sir. order yourself a plate of delicious cado toast and get your stahbucks and iphone and settle in.  Nothing about boot straps…. 
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:46:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eagarminuteman: Nah, the thread is about zoomers. Not Ukraine. *mind blown* JLP3: does this mean Lujan's not coming?  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:47:01 AM EDT
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Just give them Adderall , that ll fix it . What a soup sandwich.
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:47:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scoobysmak: Nothing about boot straps .
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:47:23 AM EDT
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Naming her Destiny mapped her career choice.
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:47:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: slow3v]
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Either way, I can say indefinitely that life now is a bit more difficult than it was 30-40 years ago. All things being equal (and they are not), growing up and starting out now sucks dick compared to 40 years ago, at least from what all of my older peers tell me, my parents tell me, and what I have observed.
Every single older influential person in my life (there have been many) reminisce on the days of old, how much simpler things were, how much more enjoyable even little things were like being a late teen/early twenty something. The world of constant connection and constant societal influence is awful on the mind and awful on the psyche. I hope some day there are parallel societies, one that is connected and one that says to hell with this and is not. It won't happen, we're too far in, but the future is bleak for humanity. -32 y/o. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:48:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DDDDCheapAF: Just give them Adderall , that ll fix it . What a soup sandwich. supposed to be some good shit. i also know a CPA who has an Rx for adderall during tax season.  |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:49:58 AM EDT
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Dang boomer’s have gone and ruined the Zoomers. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:50:16 AM EDT
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There was recently a thread about building them homes and letting them live rent free forever.
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:50:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Scoobysmak]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: what about when the Zoomas get drafted to fight WWIII in da ukraine? *mind blown* JLP3: does this mean Lujan's not coming? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/253414/ezgif-3-7c68682ee8_jpg-3200201.JPG I would rent that….. (ETA…provided that has OEM equipment) |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:50:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jackslack: If not there's always only fans and selling crack! |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:50:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: what about when the Zoomas get drafted to fight WWIII in da ukraine? *mind blown* JLP3: does this mean Lujan's not coming? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/253414/ezgif-3-7c68682ee8_jpg-3200201.JPG If Lujan ain’t coming then I ain’t going.
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:51:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: what about when the Zoomas get drafted to fight WWIII in da ukraine? *mind blown* JLP3: does this mean Lujan's not coming? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/253414/ezgif-3-7c68682ee8_jpg-3200201.JPG After seeing the HRC comparison pic I can't unseen it.
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:53:09 AM EDT
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Meh, took me till my late 20s to take off. I struggled with college and min wage jobs. My college education prepared me for a field I ended up hating.
It turned out alright. I found good work that I enjoy. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:54:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: every pipeline welder i know has an Rx for adderall. supposed to be some good shit. i also know a CPA who has an Rx for adderall during tax season. I know some dudes on it too , every one of them is a shit sandwich |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:58:55 AM EDT
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She can't get OCD meds because she doesn't have it. Guaranteed she's just another fake self diagnosed whiner who says they have it to try and get their way all the time.
And as. DG Manager, I doubt using the stripper name "Destiny" was necessary to prevent "professional repercussions".  I found this article, if even real, both pathetic and funny at the same time. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:59:52 AM EDT
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Soft times create soft people. Add in crushing inflation and a current society pushing communist values and here is what happens.
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Posted: 4/28/2024 10:06:40 AM EDT
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Kids growing up with no guidance turn into adults that have issues? No kidding.
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Posted: 4/28/2024 10:10:16 AM EDT
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Poor lil zoomas, but there are some smart ones.
Enrollment in vocational community colleges is up 16% since 2018, according to a January 2024 National Student Clearinghouse report, as younger generations are turning towards trades and careers instead of paying for college tuition. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 10:13:03 AM EDT
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Arm them and set them them loose to speak their truths.
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Posted: 4/28/2024 10:52:48 AM EDT
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Being hungry, penniless and sleeping in a old car with an empty tank in the cold can be a epiphany for some.
Just sayin' |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 11:02:42 AM EDT
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Sounds like thing are going to plan. Disaffected youth are needed for the upcoming cultural revolution. I don’t think they will be called the red guards though. Maybe the rainbow brigade?
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Posted: 4/28/2024 11:40:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rtlm: Naming her Destiny mapped her career choice. Oh, the irony |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 11:50:06 AM EDT
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As a parent of two Zoomas still in High School I'll put in my two cents.
The public school system is completely rotted. The Democrats and their Teachers Unions have gutted American public education. Instead of learning basic reading, writing and arithmetic they waste time on all kinds of stupid shit. I would say someone graduating high school today is the equivalent of a 9th or 10th grader 30 years ago. The internet and social media have been used to spread all kinds of poisonous ideas and to wreck our culture. Some of this is Democrats and some of it is China. It's hard as a parent to stem the tide of these forces against your children. And no older generations you didn't have it the same. The school system was mostly sane up until the 90s. Your kids didn't have smartphones and social media or probably even the internet. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 11:54:34 AM EDT
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She's 21. She wants sex and fun, not to be working constantly to survive. She's a foster care ageout without parents to help a little, and she's trying.
She needs to get on a woodland fire crew doing something. Make some money. Work, fun, and become a woodland 9. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 12:30:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Laydown: She's 21. She wants sex and fun, not to be working constantly to survive. She's a foster care ageout without parents to help a little, and she's trying. She needs to get on a woodland fire crew doing something. Make some money. Work, fun, and become a woodland 9. That's the problem with all the free trade bullshit. People like her who could have had a job doing manual labor in a factory or wherever can't, because all the factories got shipped out to Mexico, China, or where ever, or the jobs are being done here on the cheap by immigrants. Not everyone can code or do information/intelligent work, but our politicians have made it so that those people can't find work to do while fucking around in their 20's. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 12:33:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: Destiny's main goal right now is survival. The 21-year-old grew up in foster care in Florida and left the foster-care system at 16. Retail jobs helped her save enough money for an apartment, and she eventually became a manager at Family Dollar. She enrolled in college and maintained straight A's for a while. But Destiny, who asked to go by only her first name for fear of personal and professional repercussions, began to suffer from overwork while having multiple jobs during the pandemic, and her mental health faltered. "I feel for those who are in my shoes and don't have a connection or a home base," said Destiny, who now lives in a small apartment in Alabama with her boyfriend. "You think you're alone, but there are so many of us who are in this situation. We're hopeless, feel like a failure, and we want to get it together. We just need better resources and time." Eventually, Destiny dropped out of college and quit her job. She's struggled to get medication for her OCD and find stable employment beyond part-time gig work. She knows she's not alone in feeling stuck when it comes to investing in education or finding the right job. "When I was a general manager, when I would hire people, I was hiring people who had master's" degrees, Destiny said. "They just couldn't find a job that used that degree or jobs they just weren't qualified enough for with their experience. I think a degree now is just pretty much a baseline education for most people with jobs." A growing group of America's young people are not in school, not working, or not looking for work. They're called "disconnected youth" or "opportunity youth," and their ranks have been growing for nearly three decades. Experts say it's not just work and school; this group is often also disconnected from a sense of purpose. It's creating a tale of two Gen Zs: those who have followed traditional milestones and others who are increasingly getting left behind. These aren't all young people taking gap years the disconnected youth Business Insider spoke with want education and good jobs but are partly victims of economic circumstances outside their control. And that might cost them. I think Destiny knows what profession she should seek out, and it pays in tips well lol If she’s hot anyways |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 12:34:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jackslack: Stop helping except in extreme cases. Sink or swim bitches. I think the kids will find a way if they were raised with morals and ethics. If not there's always only fans and selling crack! The world's always needed whores and rum, I suppose... same difference
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Posted: 4/28/2024 12:39:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DeltaV42: That's the problem with all the free trade bullshit. People like her who could have had a job doing manual labor in a factory or wherever can't, because all the factories got shipped out to Mexico, China, or where ever, or the jobs are being done here on the cheap by immigrants. Not everyone can code or do information/intelligent work, but our politicians have made it so that those people can't find work to do while fucking around in their 20's.  
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Posted: 4/28/2024 12:46:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tallahasseezz: As a parent of two Zoomas still in High School I'll put in my two cents. The public school system is completely rotted. The Democrats and their Teachers Unions have gutted American public education. Instead of learning basic reading, writing and arithmetic they waste time on all kinds of stupid shit. I would say someone graduating high school today is the equivalent of a 9th or 10th grader 30 years ago. The internet and social media have been used to spread all kinds of poisonous ideas and to wreck our culture. Some of this is Democrats and some of it is China. It's hard as a parent to stem the tide of these forces against your children. And no older generations you didn't have it the same. The school system was mostly sane up until the 90s. Your kids didn't have smartphones and social media or probably even the internet. It’s even worse for a kid like her who was in the system. I see how those kids are raised, and it’s an absolute disaster. Raising kids based on the advice of social workers is probably worse than abusing them. At least your kids have you to help, and guide them, and 30 years ago kids like her had the schools. Today a kid like her has neither. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 12:48:04 PM EDT
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Fuck 'em, what are they going to do, vote for Democrats? Also, if they vote for Democrats then the election was rigged.
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Posted: 4/28/2024 12:48:54 PM EDT
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I had two part time jobs in college and graduated with a 3.6 (out of 4) GPA. I had a buddy who worked full time at UPS as a sorter (graveyard shift), went to school full time, and had a young daughter to care for with his ex wife (who was a nut). I knew other people in similar situations.
Kids now are soft. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 1:04:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By magnum_99: I had two part time jobs in college and graduated with a 3.6 (out of 4) GPA. I had a buddy who worked full time at UPS as a sorter (graveyard shift), went to school full time, and had a young daughter to care for with his ex wife (who was a nut). I knew other people in similar situations. Kids now are soft. lol I’m doing the exact same thing, not all of us are. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 1:04:57 PM EDT
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Everyone should be faced with a challenging hardship early on and successfully deal with it to foster an appreciation for the things made available in this country.
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Posted: 4/28/2024 1:09:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slow3v: Either way, I can say indefinitely that life now is a bit more difficult than it was 30-40 years ago. All things being equal (and they are not), growing up and starting out now sucks dick compared to 40 years ago, at least from what all of my older peers tell me, my parents tell me, and what I have observed. Every single older influential person in my life (there have been many) reminisce on the days of old, how much simpler things were, how much more enjoyable even little things were like being a late teen/early twenty something. The world of constant connection and constant societal influence is awful on the mind and awful on the psyche. I hope some day there are parallel societies, one that is connected and one that says to hell with this and is not. It won't happen, we're too far in, but the future is bleak for humanity. -32 y/o. Constant connectivity and social media undoubtedly has a negative effect. But we also do a lot of it to ourselves. The thread about using smart phones to track spouses and children was depressingly illuminating. Same with the surveillance networks many people set up around the homes and properties. Couple that in with rigidly scheduling/overscheduling their activities and huge academic demands. It takes helicoptering to a whole new level. Many parents don’t let their kids just be kids any more. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 1:40:13 PM EDT
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It seems that liberals or others try to create a new term that justifies every shortcoming that someone can have.
We don't need need more support/help/financial aid for those "in need," we need fewer people who think they deserve financial help from taxpayers. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 1:43:51 PM EDT
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Millennials: Boomers!
Boomers: Millineals! Gen X: i DrANk fROm a wATEr HOse! |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 1:46:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DVCER: Poor lil zoomas, but there are some smart ones. Enrollment in vocational community colleges is up 16% since 2018, according to a January 2024 National Student Clearinghouse report, as younger generations are turning towards trades and careers instead of paying for college tuition. Nothing wrong with that. People with skills in plumbing, electrical work, automotive repair etc will always be in demand. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 2:01:55 PM EDT
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Cut off government aid, ie welfare, snap, etc and see how fast they get jobs. We need to stop incentivizing laziness.
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Posted: 4/28/2024 2:06:55 PM EDT
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A foster kid on psych meds is struggling? No shit Sherlock.
Times are getting harder for sure, but overtly cherry picking your article focus doesn't make it more credible. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 2:10:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slow3v: Either way, I can say indefinitely that life now is a bit more difficult than it was 30-40 years ago. All things being equal (and they are not), growing up and starting out now sucks dick compared to 40 years ago, at least from what all of my older peers tell me, my parents tell me, and what I have observed. Every single older influential person in my life (there have been many) reminisce on the days of old, how much simpler things were, how much more enjoyable even little things were like being a late teen/early twenty something. The world of constant connection and constant societal influence is awful on the mind and awful on the psyche. I hope some day there are parallel societies, one that is connected and one that says to hell with this and is not. It won't happen, we're too far in, but the future is bleak for humanity. -32 y/o. 1900 timeframe there were some really good sweatshops. Today we have Space-X sweatshop and the glory of working there 
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Posted: 4/28/2024 2:42:46 PM EDT
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My millenial neighbor just kicked his zoomah son out of “the house”:
 Because his son just bought his own van to live in, a white one. Crazy kid. |
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