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Posted: 4/28/2024 1:45:24 PM EDT
 We Test The US Military's Newly Adopted .277 Fury Round Posting for the drama  3062fps from the 13" barrel with 113gr solid copper TSX, gel and armor at 4 minutes in. want.png
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Posted: 4/28/2024 3:41:39 PM EDT
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Just got done watching a few mins ago.
Seems like a serious round! Barely any holdovers from 500-600 yds they said. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 3:43:57 PM EDT
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We've done this thread before, we'll do it again, but not matter how many times we do it, it'll still be retarded.
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Posted: 4/28/2024 3:57:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BladedRonin]
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nobody69s: Just got done watching a few mins ago. Seems like a serious round! Barely any holdovers from 500-600 yds they said. I dont know about the rest of yall, but I get an feeling of dread every time he joked about the being pushed in prep for use against the PLA and armor. I cant help but feel its not being pushed against external threats wearing armor, but perceived internal adversaries. Proliferation of armor in the US is a thing. No matter how much they say you dont need an AR15 against f35s, we all know thats not what they will use. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 3:58:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BladedRonin: I dont know about the rest of yall, but I get an feeling of dread every time he joked about the being pushed in prep for use against the PLA and armor. I cant help but feel its not being pushed against external threats wearing armor, but perceived internal adversaries. Proliferation of armor in the US is a thing. No matter how much they say you dont need an AR15 against f35s, we all know thats not what they will use. I’m keeping 556 as a large part of my stuff. But I’m moving to bigger stuff too. Just in case. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 4:01:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bigshot64: I’m keeping 556 as a large part of my stuff. But I’m moving to bigger stuff too. Just in case. Im trying to get my bigger stuff to run reliably suppressed. Thats been a chore. Just added a JP enhanced ejector to my 308. Lets hope that fixed some problems. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 4:01:41 PM EDT
[#6]
Terrible bullet design, too much of bullet profile is exposed, ANOTHER new DUD!🙄🤦🏻♂️
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Posted: 4/28/2024 4:05:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Kingdead]
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BladedRonin: I dont know about the rest of yall, but I get an feeling of dread every time he joked about the being pushed in prep for use against the PLA and armor. I cant help but feel its not being pushed against external threats wearing armor, but perceived internal adversaries. Proliferation of armor in the US is a thing. No matter how much they say you dont need an AR15 against f35s, we all know thats not what they will use. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 4:09:41 PM EDT
[#8]
The secret real reason for the new round to killing Termonators. They're thinking UGVs, not Ivan in plates.
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Posted: 4/28/2024 4:12:28 PM EDT
[#9]
1.5 mil at 700 yds, that's a pretty impressive BC.
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Posted: 4/28/2024 4:12:50 PM EDT
[#10]
Isn’t barrel life cut in half with this round or something?
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Posted: 4/28/2024 4:14:48 PM EDT
[#11]
The future M-14
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Posted: 4/28/2024 4:15:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Kingdead]
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -OdieGreen-: Isn't barrel life cut in half with this round or something? |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 4:16:54 PM EDT
[#13]
How does/will the commercially available ammunition (which I'm assuming will be brass cased) compare to 6.5 cm because 6.5cm with factory hornady loads are knocking on 3,000 fps at a similar bullet weight anyway.
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Posted: 4/28/2024 4:22:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Badlatitude: How does/will the commercially available ammunition (which I'm assuming will be brass cased) compare to 6.5 cm because 6.5cm with factory hornady loads are knocking on 3,000 fps at a similar bullet weight anyway. Not from a 13" barrel |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 4:36:41 PM EDT
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I noticed that the blunt trama from hitting the ballistics dummy in the side plate was pretty rough on the ribs. One question though. I thought it was normal to wear soft armor under the main rifle plate, so wouldn't much of that impact be more evenly distributed and possibly not break as many ribs, or would it make little difference?
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Posted: 4/28/2024 4:41:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Badlatitude: How does/will the commercially available ammunition (which I'm assuming will be brass cased) compare to 6.5 cm because 6.5cm with factory hornady loads are knocking on 3,000 fps at a similar bullet weight anyway. I think where the Creedmoor shines is barrel life and price/performace. .277 Fury with the steel/brass hybrid case should be superior in every other way that’s measurable. That case will never be cheap. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 4:51:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By billclo: I noticed that the blunt trama from hitting the ballistics dummy in the side plate was pretty rough on the ribs. One question though. I thought it was normal to wear soft armor under the main rifle plate, so wouldn't much of that impact be more evenly distributed and possibly not break as many ribs, or would it make little difference? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 4:52:51 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Badlatitude: How does/will the commercially available ammunition (which I'm assuming will be brass cased) compare to 6.5 cm because 6.5cm with factory hornady loads are knocking on 3,000 fps at a similar bullet weight anyway. They're selling hybrid cased 277 Fury to civilians too. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 4:54:24 PM EDT
[#19]
Isnt that the rifle thats heavier than the Garand?
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USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 4:58:12 PM EDT
[#20]
The .gov is moving to the M5 for one reason…. Citizens with hard plates.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:00:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher15: Isnt that the rifle thats heavier than the Garand? XM7 is 8.5lbs, Garand is 9.5lbs. Slap on optic and can then it gets heavier…but optic and can |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:00:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nobody69s: Just got done watching a few mins ago. Seems like a serious round! Barely any holdovers from 500-600 yds they said. Yup |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:24:20 PM EDT
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I still don't understand why these are almost twice as much as the MCX. Too much of a premium for me. I was really excited about a modern large frame gun but damn.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eurotrash: I think where the Creedmoor shines is barrel life and price/performace. .277 Fury with the steel/brass hybrid case should be superior in every other way that’s measurable. That case will never be cheap. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eurotrash: Originally Posted By Badlatitude: How does/will the commercially available ammunition (which I'm assuming will be brass cased) compare to 6.5 cm because 6.5cm with factory hornady loads are knocking on 3,000 fps at a similar bullet weight anyway. I think where the Creedmoor shines is barrel life and price/performace. .277 Fury with the steel/brass hybrid case should be superior in every other way that’s measurable. That case will never be cheap. I can't wait to see Creedmoor barrel assemblies for this thing. If it stays around that will certainly happen. This is one of those times I'd love to see a chart with everything plotted out so you can really see the difference of everythng. I know that 6.5 Creedmoor isn't as fast 6.8 Angry but like so many things I'd bet it's close enough. I think it would be cool if 6.5 Creedmoor kept working its way into military stuff. Not just as a precision round but some good fmj and specialty. Originally Posted By sc16: Terrible bullet design, too much of bullet profile is exposed What does that mean? |
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MT, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:32:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sc16: Terrible bullet design, too much of bullet profile is exposed, ANOTHER new DUD!🙄🤦🏻♂️ 
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:34:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: I still don't understand why these are almost twice as much as the MCX. Too much of a premium for me. I was really excited about a modern large frame gun but damn. I can't wait to see Creedmoor barrel assemblies for this thing. If it stays around that will certainly happen. This is one of those times I'd love to see a chart with everything plotted out so you can really see the difference of everythng. I know that 6.5 Creedmoor isn't as fast 6.8 Angry but like so many things I'd bet it's close enough. I think it would be cool if 6.5 Creedmoor kept working its way into military stuff. Not just as a precision round but some good fmj and specialty. What does that mean? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: I still don't understand why these are almost twice as much as the MCX. Too much of a premium for me. I was really excited about a modern large frame gun but damn. Originally Posted By eurotrash: Originally Posted By Badlatitude: How does/will the commercially available ammunition (which I'm assuming will be brass cased) compare to 6.5 cm because 6.5cm with factory hornady loads are knocking on 3,000 fps at a similar bullet weight anyway. I think where the Creedmoor shines is barrel life and price/performace. .277 Fury with the steel/brass hybrid case should be superior in every other way that’s measurable. That case will never be cheap. I can't wait to see Creedmoor barrel assemblies for this thing. If it stays around that will certainly happen. This is one of those times I'd love to see a chart with everything plotted out so you can really see the difference of everythng. I know that 6.5 Creedmoor isn't as fast 6.8 Angry but like so many things I'd bet it's close enough. I think it would be cool if 6.5 Creedmoor kept working its way into military stuff. Not just as a precision round but some good fmj and specialty. Originally Posted By sc16: Terrible bullet design, too much of bullet profile is exposed What does that mean? White the 6.5 can get close, it would have to be like 26” barrel, loaded above max pressure us civvies deal with. Also, sc16 can’t tell you what that means, because it doesn’t mean anything. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:40:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kingdead: Wearing chest armor doesn't make you invincible. It may help stop an immediate kill, but you will still be hurt or if you are shot in the extremities you can still be incapacitated or killed. I'm not saying don't wear armor, but if you think the us gov purchased a new weapon to kill maga civilians you are too far gone. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kingdead: Originally Posted By BladedRonin: I dont know about the rest of yall, but I get an feeling of dread every time he joked about the being pushed in prep for use against the PLA and armor. I cant help but feel its not being pushed against external threats wearing armor, but perceived internal adversaries. Proliferation of armor in the US is a thing. No matter how much they say you dont need an AR15 against f35s, we all know thats not what they will use. If you have $$$, armor piercing doesn't do shit. If you can hump heavy weight, armor doesn't do shit. You are better off blinding your enemies with over powered lasers. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:42:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperHeavy: If you have $$$, armor piercing doesn't do shit. If you can hump heavy weight, armor doesn't do shit. You are better off blinding your enemies with over powered lasers. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SuperHeavy: Originally Posted By Kingdead: Originally Posted By BladedRonin: I dont know about the rest of yall, but I get an feeling of dread every time he joked about the being pushed in prep for use against the PLA and armor. I cant help but feel its not being pushed against external threats wearing armor, but perceived internal adversaries. Proliferation of armor in the US is a thing. No matter how much they say you dont need an AR15 against f35s, we all know thats not what they will use. If you have $$$, armor piercing doesn't do shit. If you can hump heavy weight, armor doesn't do shit. You are better off blinding your enemies with over powered lasers. Sounds like power armor needs to become a reality to me. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:46:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SuperHeavy]
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Raider14: Sounds like power armor needs to become a reality to me. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Raider14: Originally Posted By SuperHeavy: Originally Posted By Kingdead: Originally Posted By BladedRonin: I dont know about the rest of yall, but I get an feeling of dread every time he joked about the being pushed in prep for use against the PLA and armor. I cant help but feel its not being pushed against external threats wearing armor, but perceived internal adversaries. Proliferation of armor in the US is a thing. No matter how much they say you dont need an AR15 against f35s, we all know thats not what they will use. If you have $$$, armor piercing doesn't do shit. If you can hump heavy weight, armor doesn't do shit. You are better off blinding your enemies with over powered lasers. Sounds like power armor needs to become a reality to me. If you look through history and out current ammo, it never could be effective against a near peer opponent. Bitch about m855 zipping through skinny enemies, but it never would have been effective against a guy armored like any 1st world nation or the guys who shop on Chinese websites. A level 4 plate will stop a lead core 50 BMG. Energy might do you in though. Physics and science are not on the side of the guy shooting the gun. It's very easy to stop a bullet, it's expensive to do that lightly. No modern infantry rifle will compete with modern armor. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:52:58 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kuraki: Not from a 13" barrel 
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:58:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: What does that mean? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Originally Posted By sc16: Terrible bullet design, too much of bullet profile is exposed What does that mean? I am curious as well. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 6:07:54 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BladedRonin: I cant help but feel its not being pushed against external threats wearing armor, but perceived internal adversaries. Proliferation of armor in the US is a thing. Why not just change that to a definite use against us. It's the truth. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:33:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ronin72: Why not just change that to a definite use against us. It's the truth. Because China can't produce things at scale. Right. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:35:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ronin72: Why not just change that to a definite use against us. It's the truth. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ronin72: Originally Posted By BladedRonin: I cant help but feel its not being pushed against external threats wearing armor, but perceived internal adversaries. Proliferation of armor in the US is a thing. Why not just change that to a definite use against us. It's the truth. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:37:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shockergd: Because China can't produce things at scale. Right. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shockergd: Originally Posted By Ronin72: Why not just change that to a definite use against us. It's the truth. Because China can't produce things at scale. Right. China will produce anything for profit sake not sure if that includes the PLA though 
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:38:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TaskForce]
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ronin72: Why not just change that to a definite use against us. It's the truth. I hate to break it to you and shatter the fantasy but most people don't actually believe the US army is going to kill us all every time they get a new rifle. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:38:44 PM EDT
[#36]
Neat. Maybe I'll be able to afford one and a few rounds eventually
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Posted: 4/28/2024 9:39:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By noob5000000: Neat. Maybe I'll be able to afford one and a few rounds eventually Too niche. It's 5.56 and .308 forever boys. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 11:03:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: Too niche. It's 5.56 and .308 forever boys. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: Originally Posted By noob5000000: Neat. Maybe I'll be able to afford one and a few rounds eventually Too niche. It's 5.56 and .308 forever boys. Maybe not forever, but for at least another decade. By then there will be a SFAR, PSA or similar in 6.8 Furry that will be just as gud for civilians. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 11:09:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By noob5000000: Neat. Maybe I'll be able to afford one and a few rounds eventually The basic brass cased stuff isn’t too bad, looking like $22 a box for range ammo. The hybrid stuff starts pushing $3 a round real quick tho lol |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 12:15:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 50-140: 1.5 mil at 700 yds, that's a pretty impressive BC. Couldn’t find any data on that bullet. The 110 TSX at 3100 fps, 6,000’ elevation and zeroed at 200 yards only gets to 440 yards at 1.5 mil holdover. 140 grn 6.5 boat tail with a G1 BC of 0.586 same conditions only gets to 480 yards at 1.5 mil holdover. The video implied this was zeroed at 100. Something seems magical. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 12:20:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kuraki: Not from a 13" barrel Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kuraki: Originally Posted By Badlatitude: How does/will the commercially available ammunition (which I'm assuming will be brass cased) compare to 6.5 cm because 6.5cm with factory hornady loads are knocking on 3,000 fps at a similar bullet weight anyway. Not from a 13" barrel This. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 3:07:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sc16: Terrible bullet design, too much of bullet profile is exposed, ANOTHER new DUD!🙄🤦🏻♂️ Welcome fellow cartridge enthusiast! |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 3:40:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By billclo: I noticed that the blunt trama from hitting the ballistics dummy in the side plate was pretty rough on the ribs. One question though. I thought it was normal to wear soft armor under the main rifle plate, so wouldn't much of that impact be more evenly distributed and possibly not break as many ribs, or would it make little difference? I can't imagine wearing a plate carrier over a standard ballistic vest. Talk about uncomfortable, hot and heavy. |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 3:44:42 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BladedRonin: I dont know about the rest of yall, but I get an feeling of dread every time he joked about the being pushed in prep for use against the PLA and armor. I cant help but feel its not being pushed against external threats wearing armor, but perceived internal adversaries. Proliferation of armor in the US is a thing. No matter how much they say you dont need an AR15 against f35s, we all know thats not what they will use. A good friend of mine mirrored this exact sentiment to me. One thing I've come to learn is that our government will use any means nefariously for it's own greed and power. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 4:46:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Seneca-Cayuga: I can't imagine wearing a plate carrier over a standard ballistic vest. Talk about uncomfortable, hot and heavy. The soft armor is integrated into the plate carrier. See the IOTV. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 6:09:49 AM EDT
[#46]
DoA
I doubt us peons will ever see the 80Kpsi rounds. .277 Fury civilian offerings will only offer performance of the 7mm-08 in my research. Sad, I'd love to play with the full power stuff. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 6:46:49 AM EDT
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Interesting video on an interesting cartridge. Seems rather over powered and heavy for general use. He also mentioned a lot of heat. Does not sound like a rifle meant for high volume of fire.
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Posted: 4/29/2024 6:56:38 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TaskForce: I hate to break it to you and shatter the fantasy but most people don't actually believe the US army is going to kill us all every time they get a new rifle. I hate to break it to you and shatter your masturbatory fantasy that you're safe, but you're not. You have already been labeled a domestic terrorist and your boy Joe has brought in enough people to make sure those that hate you stay in power. You are exactly where the Jews were just as the Nazis took power, Skippy. I want you to keep that in mind. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 7:02:59 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BladedRonin: I dont know about the rest of yall, but I get an feeling of dread every time he joked about the being pushed in prep for use against the PLA and armor. I cant help but feel its not being pushed against external threats wearing armor, but perceived internal adversaries. Proliferation of armor in the US is a thing. No matter how much they say you dont need an AR15 against f35s, we all know thats not what they will use. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BladedRonin: Originally Posted By Nobody69s: Just got done watching a few mins ago. Seems like a serious round! Barely any holdovers from 500-600 yds they said. I dont know about the rest of yall, but I get an feeling of dread every time he joked about the being pushed in prep for use against the PLA and armor. I cant help but feel its not being pushed against external threats wearing armor, but perceived internal adversaries. Proliferation of armor in the US is a thing. No matter how much they say you dont need an AR15 against f35s, we all know thats not what they will use. I love GT, Charlie cracks me up, but I got this feeling that this week’s video and last week’s, are psyops. My first thought was to head off a Chinese invasion of Taiwan but it could be internal too. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 7:21:10 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AEROMechanic: DoA I doubt us peons will ever see the 80Kpsi rounds. .277 Fury civilian offerings will only offer performance of the 7mm-08 in my research. Sad, I'd love to play with the full power stuff. The bi-metal cases were/are available for handloading. Not sure if anyone has taken them to 80k psi using pressure testing equipment though. |
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