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Posted: 5/14/2024 4:35:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: spmx7777]
https://www.fleischersauctions.com/auctions/civil-war-african-american-history-wm-t-sherman-collection/
The following lots (79-128) are consigned directly by General William Tecumseh Sherman’s descendants, who have decided to sell their inherited collection after generations of careful preservation. The collection has never been offered before and represents a rare opportunity to acquire significant historical artifacts linked to one of the most important figures in American history. Notable items in the collection include: General Sherman’s wartime sword, his personal copy of Ulysses S. Grant’s memoirs (featuring Sherman’s own annotations), his uniform’s rank insignia worn during the Civil War, the Sherman family bible with meticulous records written by General Sherman himself, and Sherman’s copy of the definitive photographic record of his “March to the Sea:” George Barnard’s Photographic Views of Sherman’s Campaign. Some of the more interesting to me and/or expensive items and their sale prices are below. See the link above for all Sherman items (lots 79 - 128) SHERMAN'S COPY OF BARNARD'S "PHOTOGRAPHIC VIEWS OF SHERMAN'S CAMPAIGN" $144,000 GEN. WILLIAM T. SHERMAN'S SWORD & TRUNK $130,000 Click To View Spoiler SHERMAN'S ANNOTATED GRANT'S MEMOIRS $70,000 GEN. WILLIAM T. SHERMAN'S RANK INSIGNIA $37,000 SHERMAN FAMILY BIBLE, EXTENSIVELY INSCRIBED BY GENERAL AND MRS. SHERMAN $17,000 GEN. SHERMAN'S "MARCH TO THE SEA" MAP $22,000 GEN. SHERMAN INSCRIBED "MILITARY HISTORY OF ULYSSES S. GRANT" $6750 GEN. SHERMAN'S PISTOL, COLLECTION OF ASIAN DAGGERS & OBJET D'ART $6500 |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 4:35:29 PM EDT
[#1]
ummmm..
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Posted: 5/14/2024 4:36:30 PM EDT
[#2]
Who the hell is Sherman Tecumseh Sherman?
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NV, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 4:38:05 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Admiral_Crunch: Who the hell is Sherman Tecumseh Sherman? Bill's brother. 
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Posted: 5/14/2024 4:39:07 PM EDT
[#4]
I wish the collector guy would buy that then burn it all on national television.
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Posted: 5/14/2024 4:40:32 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Admiral_Crunch: Who the hell is Sherman Tecumseh Sherman? He’s the one that marched to Michigan, the other one went to Atlanta. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 4:42:36 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CavScout: I wish the collector guy would buy that then burn it all on national television. It belongs in a museum. To honor the greatest American to have ever lived.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 4:42:41 PM EDT
[#7]
Yeah, we still hurting from that sum-bitch.
 Good blueprint for how to fuck shit up though. 
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Posted: 5/14/2024 4:47:57 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CavScout: I wish the collector guy would buy that then burn it all on national television. Worst. Cav. Scout. Ever. Do you even Indian Wars bro? |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 4:51:07 PM EDT
[#9]
I like the "asian daggers".
I wonder if those were like the civil war version of Chinese stars.
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Posted: 5/14/2024 4:52:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: spmx7777]
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Admiral_Crunch: Who the hell is Sherman Tecumseh Sherman? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Admiral_Crunch: Who the hell is Sherman Tecumseh Sherman? Corrected. Happy now? Oh look, a southerner that doesn't like General Sherman. Boo hoo. GEN. SHERMAN'S NYC ADDRESS, 1878 $4700 "There are such things as Abstract Right and Abstract Wrong, and when History is written, human actions must take their place in one or the other category. We claim that, in the great Civil War, we of the National Union Army were right, and our adversaries wrong; and no special pleading, no excuses, no personal motives, however pure and specious, can change this verdict of the war." He continues with a call for historical understanding: "I would not for the world revive the angry passions of that period of time, nor do I question the personal motives of our then antagonist; but I do and ever will contest the proposition, that we should tear form the history of our country the pages which record the great events from 1860 to 1865; for they should stand there forever as a warning to those who come after us - who, from passion, self-interest, or any human cause or pretext whatever, may undertake to destroy this Government by violence." |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 4:59:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Admiral_Crunch: Who the hell is Sherman Tecumseh Sherman? He fought under Colonel Angus at the Battle of Big Beaver. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:01:00 PM EDT
[#12]
There were some big money bidders, bumping up a bid by $1000 in seconds like it was nothing. I was tempted on some of the less expensive items but I'm saving up for an LMT .308 ight now so I just lurked.
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TN, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:04:13 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CavScout: I wish the collector guy would buy that then burn it all on national television. If I won the lottery, I would make this dream come true. Fuck him and Lincoln. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:05:46 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CavScout: I wish the collector guy would buy that then burn it all on national television. How Islamic of you. Anyone willing to destroy history, be it good bad or indifferent, is scum of the earth. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:07:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aspida1776: If I won the lottery, I would make this dream come true. Fuck him and Lincoln. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aspida1776: Originally Posted By CavScout: I wish the collector guy would buy that then burn it all on national television. If I won the lottery, I would make this dream come true. Fuck him and Lincoln. I knew this thread would bring out the Confederates. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:07:38 PM EDT
[#16]
Best general ever at exploiting his numerical and logistical superiority. However, put him on equal footing with his enemy and he would have had his ass handed to him.
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:10:00 PM EDT
[#17]
That's my home town General!
To hell with the haters. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:10:40 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CavScout: I wish the collector guy would buy that then burn it all on national television. 
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:12:59 PM EDT
[#19]
In before I buy it and light it on fire
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:14:12 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aspida1776: If I won the lottery, I would make this dream come true. Fuck him and Lincoln. Mind right! |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:14:53 PM EDT
[#21]
Too bad no flashlight. I coulda used a flashlight.
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:17:20 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CavScout: I wish the collector guy would buy that then burn it all on national television. Seems appropriate. Sherman was a guy who even burned black people's homes and churches... claiming he was helping them:  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:18:11 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryIs Willem Defoe related to him |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:25:17 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Banditman: Is Willem Defoe related to him Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Banditman: Is Willem Defoe related to him Sure looks like it!!! |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:25:51 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spmx7777: I knew this thread would bring out the Confederates. Bring out? We’ve been here all along. Just call me ‘unreconstructed’. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:26:00 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aspida1776: If I won the lottery, I would make this dream come true. Fuck him and Lincoln. Bless your heart. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:28:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: _DR]
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Admiral_Crunch: Who the hell is Sherman Tecumseh Sherman? Legendary drunkard and murderer of noncombatants, no matter how you say his name. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:29:07 PM EDT
[#28]
Ah the "glorious lost cause" myth.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:31:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: _DR]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By last_crusader: Ah the "glorious lost cause" myth. Tell that to the souls of those civilians his men murdered and raped in Georgia, with his tacit approval. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:36:30 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bob6012: That's my home town General! To hell with the haters.   Attached File |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:39:50 PM EDT
[#31]
Threads like this are why so many people make fun of the South.
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GA, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:39:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _DR: Legendary drunkard and murderer of noncombatants, no matter how you say his name. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _DR: Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch: Who the hell is Sherman Tecumseh Sherman? Legendary drunkard and murderer of noncombatants, no matter how you say his name. I'd be a drunkard too if I had to kill the fuck out of non-combatants via starvation to break a nation's will to fight as well, but Sherman was a rote amateur at killing civilians compared to the average WW2 bomber wing commander. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:43:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CavScout: I wish the collector guy would buy that then burn it all on national television. Great minds think alike. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:45:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Low-Cap: Best general ever at exploiting his numerical and logistical superiority. However, put him on equal footing with his enemy and he would have had his ass handed to him. Did you even think about how stupid that sounded before you typed it? Great military leaders win despite the odds. A numerical advantage on the part of an attacker, fighting on the defenders home turf isn’t quite the advantage. You seem to think it is. But I’ll give you the chance to correct me. What great confederate general ever defeated Sherman? |
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USA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:46:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: crazymoose]
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spmx7777: I knew this thread would bring out the Confederates. Several of my relatives fought for the Union, and I have zero southern ancestry. Sherman was still a dickhead. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:49:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By crazymoose: Several of my relatives fought for the Union, and I have zero southern ancestry. Sherman was still a dickhead. Tell everyone how much you hate general Curtis LeMay. I bet you can’t stand George Patton? |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:50:37 PM EDT
[#37]
Vicksburg
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:51:12 PM EDT
[#38]
Some people need to reflect on the nature of fucking around and finding out.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:52:40 PM EDT
[#39]
Your glorious President just removed the reunification monument so Its back on!
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:53:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:53:36 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By crazymoose: Several of my relatives fought for the Union, and I have zero southern ancestry. Sherman was still a dickhead. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By crazymoose: Originally Posted By spmx7777: I knew this thread would bring out the Confederates. Several of my relatives fought for the Union, and I have zero southern ancestry. Sherman was still a dickhead. Confederate monuments shouldn’t be toppled, and artifacts from one of the more important generals of the war should be preserved regardless of contemporary biases. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:55:31 PM EDT
[#42]
Say what you will about WTS, but the man was effective.
Both natives and the Old South are subdued, contained, culturally and even physically occupied, with once prominent facets of their cultures drastically altered or outright obliterated as a result of his warfighting. I guess the lesson learned is that to win a war, you have to crush not just opposing armies, but the peoples and cultures who formed them against you. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:56:11 PM EDT
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:56:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WildBoar]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spmx7777: I knew this thread would bring out the Confederates. I wonder how many of them served as Federal Soldiers, are Republicans and took part in invading and occupying Soverign nations? |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 6:06:37 PM EDT
[#45]
GD: Sherman was scum, fuck him etc...
GD: LeMay was a national treasure, we need men like him today etc... |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 6:09:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KC-130 FLT ENG: GD: Sherman was scum, fuck him etc... GD: LeMay was a national treasure, we need men like him today etc... Tis the queer duality of GD. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 6:10:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Admiral_Crunch: Who the hell is Sherman Tecumseh Sherman? I think that that SOB that came down here tried to impose his order!!! |
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USA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 6:11:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CavScout: I wish the collector guy would buy that then burn it all on national television. This. Fuck that guy. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 6:21:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Some people need to reflect on the nature of fucking around and finding out. BTW, Sam Houston wanted nothing to do with the Confederacy. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 6:31:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Worst. Cav. Scout. Ever. Do you even Indian Wars bro? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By CavScout: I wish the collector guy would buy that then burn it all on national television. Worst. Cav. Scout. Ever. Do you even Indian Wars bro? I did not become a Cav Scout to kill Indians, my job is to protect them. Sherman shelled my Capitol building and he can continue burning in hell. Oh and to the wise man who posted “How very Islamic of me…” to paraphrase his comment, yeah very Islamic of me to crush some memorabilia from that SOB. Not like I tore down any statues, ever. We all know who is doing that. If I am running around burning down villages and killing everyone in them, then perhaps that comment would make some sense lol. |
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