I pretty much stick to watching Golf Channel and whoever is showing the PGA event (even though there are a bunch of names I don’t recognize).

I flipped over to the LIV event and saw so many players I used to watch. Maybe I got lazy but hate not seeing everyone competing at the same events.

Anyone else feel the same? And, not a fan (yet) of the “team” format. It’s an individual sport.

Oh, and first time in the golf forum. Glad we have it.

ETA: A year ago my wife and I were in Augusta for the Monday practice. (Her cousin won the tix in the lottery.) it’s amazing there. I just like being on the course.

I think LIV format is the future.

It appeals to the younger generation.

I find watching golf entertaining when I can't play myself.  And the LIV events are definitely laid back and entertaining.

The team thing is additional to the normal stroke play.  Not sure how that detracts?

It's like the shorts thing.  Why can't the pros be comfortable, instead of displaying swamp ass on national television?  

Oh well, I will continue to watch all golf either way (even you tube)

I'll watch some this week, haven't watched much this year, lots of no names on the PGA.  They screwed up and lost most of their talent.  LIV is hard to watch also.  Phoenix Open had a 35% drop in viewers from last year.  Tour is on life support.   Tiger is BACK!  Got to play to keep the endorsements coming in.  Pro sports has lost its luster for me.

LIV could have been cool, but the problem is the Saudis aren’t cool. They don’t understand what the Good Good generation wants out of golf. Loud music and team format isn’t making the sport better.


I wanted to like LIV, but at the end of the day it isn’t better than the PGA. That said PGA has obviously changed their socials Team. Whoever is running their Tik Tok and Insta accounts is young and has a very barstool sports vibe to their posts. It has improved their exposure and is resulting in a lot of engagement. If they could bring some of that edge to their broadcasts and events it would help these young guys getting into golf find a space to grow. As long as municipal public courses are having course marshals  chasing people down for wearing hooded pullovers the game is being hurt. Better to bring the bros in young and teach them love of the game and respect for the course.

no cap but the Good Good generation sure doesn't want Brandel Chamblee... He is the PGA tool in the marshal cart you described and is cringe fr fr



But I agree with you about keeping young folks active and interested in the sport

I’m a mixed bag when it comes to golf. It pisses me off to no end when clowns are blasting music from their Bluetooth speakers and at the same time if the THOTS want to wear tiny skirts and guys want to play in J’s I couldn’t give a shit less as long as they aren’t tearing up the course.

Agreed on all counts.... especially the thots

Music is fine but you should be respectful of the volume.

I came in expecting a thread about Tour Edge clubs.

Exit stage left.  

I don't care for it either.

I understand change can be a good thing, but look what it's done for NASCAR the last 10 years...

The PGA screwed up bad trying to ban the LIV players. People have always played multiple tours and exhibitions. I don't think anybody bought the tour's moral objection to Saudi money shtick for a second either. All the tour managed to do was degrade their product.

I wish Brian Harman would go to LIV. I can't stand watching the bobble head.

I don't watch LIV. F the Saudis.

100% correct. When this whole thing got started, Phil stated he just wanted to change the way PGA did things. Players not owning the rights to their likeness? Yeah that’s not right. Then they went on the smear tour of LIV. That worked out well, huh?

A second tour isn’t a bad thing. Baseball has it, football has it, why not golf?

Many of the guys who left for LIV did it for the money. I get the detract from that. But would you not set up your family with a few hundred million?

Happy to see “the LIV” is the lesser tour got put to bed, at least IMO. Golf is an individual sport - guys competing for the top spot. So what does it matter who they play for? If baseball had a home run derby (an individual sport) every week, does it matter if the winner plays in the MLB everyday?

I watched a video the other day that explained why Bryson was more popular than Xander at the Vallhalla.

Bryson owns his identity and is all over social media/you tube so his "brand" is growing among golfers, especially younger folks.

He is no longer trapped by the PGA image of him, people can root for someone they understand better.  

That is another thing LIV got correct.  PGA did not innovate, LIV did. Hopefully a net positive for golf in the end.

K