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Posted: 4/28/2024 1:04:36 PM EDT
Figure on average, one half TRILLION dollars per year spent on various aid to the poor programs in America, since LBJ left office.
Something like $2.75 trillion if my numbers are correct.
Why dey be po' folks nowadays? Somting's rong.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:06:38 PM EDT
[#1]
Because they keep voting democrat instead of small government.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:06:55 PM EDT
[#2]
Define poor.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:10:33 PM EDT
[#3]
Being poor is like being stupid. You can't fix it no matter how much money you throw at it.

Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:10:46 PM EDT
[#4]
Mindset usually.  

Although it isn't a popular opinion too many young men can't keep their dick in their pants.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:11:13 PM EDT
[#5]
laziness and poor life decisions
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:11:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal:
Define poor.
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Single NODS with visible laser
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:12:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal:
Define poor.
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We have some of the richest poor people in the world, that have luxuries like cable TV, cell phones, get "free" food and regularly buy stuff like scratchers and alcohol. Venture out in the world to see real poor.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:12:12 PM EDT
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75-inch TVs, brand-new iPhones, and "spinner" wheel covers on their Cadillac Escalades.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:12:12 PM EDT
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Looked at in terms of consumption, there is no poverty in the USA that is not self inflicted.  Some of that self inflicted poverty is regretable.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:13:25 PM EDT
[#10]
"Poor people have poor ways."

Doesn't matter how much money you shovel at someone.  People who make bad decisions continue to make bad decisions, and teach their offspring how to make bad decisions.  The money always filters it's way to the top.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:14:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
laziness and poor life decisions
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Lots of this.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:15:14 PM EDT
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there are no poor people in America. There are people who work and people who refuse to work.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:15:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal:
Define poor.
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In America, poor is slightly above the working/lower middle class. With the advantage of not having to get dressed for work everyday.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:15:59 PM EDT
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Found a stat, for 2022, that said 7.4 million families below the poverty line in the US... that 2.75 trillion breaks down to $371K per family.

Census bureau has 37.9 million people below poverty line in 2022. That 2.75 trillion breaks down to $75K per person.

That amount of money is not reaching the impoverished. Poor has become an industry that people are making big money from. That's why poor still exists.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:17:19 PM EDT
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There's no one reason.  Many Americans are poor today because of their horrendous personal choices with drugs, alcohol, and sex.

Then there's ones like my brother, who failed to adequately plan for retirement and are finding out that Social Security covers only a fraction of their cost of living.

And then there's those who got left behind when American companies sold out our industrial base and sent high-paying blue collar jobs overseas, and the job at the local convenience store doesn't come close to making up the difference.

It doesn't help that our government's current policies are designed to make people poorer.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:18:11 PM EDT
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There’s lots of lazy pieces of shit who don’t want to work for a living
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:18:23 PM EDT
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Well right now, I am at the horse races at a casino, so it is not surprising to me.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:19:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GarandM1:
There's no one reason.  Many Americans are poor today because of their horrendous personal choices with drugs, alcohol, and sex.

Then there's ones like my brother, who failed to adequately plan for retirement and are finding out that Social Security covers only a fraction of their cost of living.

And then there's those who got left behind when American companies sold out our industrial base and sent high-paying blue collar jobs overseas, and the job at the local convenience store doesn't come close to making up the difference.

It doesn't help that our government's current policies are designed to make people poorer.
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This...

Plus, unlimited immigration to keep undercutting wages for regular jobs here,
all while increasing competition for affordable rent and housing.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:19:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Joker117:
Being poor is like being stupid. You can't fix it no matter how much money you throw at it.

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Low IQ and low income corralate. Not everyone can be a mathematician or physicist. Lots of people inbetween smart and dumb as well.

There is nothing that can change genetics until pregnancy is regulated or some sort of DNA manipulator is applied to a fetus so everyone has a smart kid.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:21:01 PM EDT
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I'm a GD poor. I'm not a real world poor. There's a difference.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:22:58 PM EDT
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Demoncrats.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:25:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Explorer225:
Mindset usually.  

Although it isn't a popular opinion too many young men can't keep their dick in their pants.
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Yep, blasting loads half a Summer out of high school into the first Suzy Rotten Crotch in town to spread isn’t a well thought through
life plan.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:27:01 PM EDT
[#23]
Because we have dumb people and dumb people are poor.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:27:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sparkyfender2:
I'm a GD poor. I'm not a real world poor. There's a difference.
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You are GD honest like me. Many here are full of shit.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:28:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GDaawg:


Low IQ and low income corralate. Not everyone can be a mathematician or physicist. Lots of people inbetween smart and dumb as well.

There is nothing that can change genetics until pregnancy is regulated or some sort of DNA manipulator is applied to a fetus so everyone has a smart kid.
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Facts are scary.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:29:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FrankSymptoms:
Figure on average, one half TRILLION dollars per year spent on various aid to the poor programs in America, since LBJ left office.
Something like $2.75 trillion if my numbers are correct.
Why dey be po' folks nowadays? Somting's rong.
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Half trillion per year 2.75. Trillion = 5.5 years
Lbj left office 75 years ago

Half trillion is 500 billion

I think
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:29:57 PM EDT
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Because whatever you subsidize, you get more of?
But seriously, there are no poor people in America, in most of the world if you have a car, A/C, TV, computer, smartphone, etc...you ain't poor but solid middle class or higher.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:30:15 PM EDT
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They make different choices because the prioritize different things. It's really that simple.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:30:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By motoguy:
"Poor people have poor ways."

Doesn't matter how much money you shovel at someone.  People who make bad decisions continue to make bad decisions, and teach their offspring how to make bad decisions.  The money always filters it's way to the top.
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I have observed my sister in law for 40 years, the above statement is true in her case.
Her excuse not to work is “ they don’t pay enough “.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:33:31 PM EDT
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Some people just aren't very bright or motivated.  Both keep people from working their way up.

Some people are raised in the welfare environment are happy with .gov handouts.  The do have a job, every first Tuesday in November to make sure the .gov gravy train keeps rolling.
Ages ago Louis Rukeyser said things started going to hell when welfare started competing with entry level jobs.

Some people make a decent buck but are foolish with money.

And some have some bad breaks or do drugs and make their own bad breaks.

So I doubt there's any single answer.

For the inevitable 'what to do about it' question, opportunity and expanding economy do far more to alleviate poverty than subsidizing the poor and thus buying more poverty.
The best welfare program is a job.


Thomas Sowell said to avoid poverty, graduate high school, get a job, and get married before having children.  Almost no one who does all three is in poverty.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:33:41 PM EDT
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I think the problem is social media, "influencers", and, celeberties.

These people set the bar of how you should be living, how to dress, how to talk and people buy into all that shit.

theres a price to pay for "looking cool" or whatever the trend is..
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:35:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RattleCanAR:
Because we have dumb people and dumb people are poor.
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This. A lot of people are dumb. They will never out earn their choices.

The other poors are lazy. They’d rather be poor and exert minimal effort in life than be well off and work hard.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:37:05 PM EDT
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Because, like me, many have earned and kept more than their fair share. Oh well, the secret is in the answer.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:39:24 PM EDT
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Only in America are poor people fat. Poor in America have a tv a cell phone and a car as well as a place to live. They are not poor.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:43:34 PM EDT
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If you want to be poor, just be a whore.

Pregnancy and being young and single will make most females poor and on the dole for years if not forever.

And you aren't getting CS from some unemployed 19 year old either.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:43:50 PM EDT
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Poverty rate by county.


Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:46:16 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:47:30 PM EDT
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Lack of financial literacy passed on from generation to generation
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:49:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By motoguzzi:
Because whatever you subsidize, you get more of?
But seriously, there are no poor people in America, in most of the world if you have a car, A/C, TV, computer, smartphone, etc...you ain't poor but solid middle class or higher.
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Thats because in a lot of cases, housing, food, bills, and supplemental support by Uncle Sugar is taking up a lot of the slack.

Cut off the "gibsmedat" and a lot of the extraneous luxury would disappear.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:49:06 PM EDT
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Is that South Dakota anomaly Indian reservations?
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:52:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FredMan:

Is that South Dakota anomaly Indian reservations?
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Originally Posted By FredMan:

Is that South Dakota anomaly Indian reservations?


I think in WI and upper Michigan too.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:53:38 PM EDT
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Substance abuse. Low IQ
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:56:03 PM EDT
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Being poor in the USA is still similar to being fat, you won’t get out of poverty, or lose weight without some discipline. Which is why most poor people are fat, poor self control.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:58:08 PM EDT
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Even if you were to give a bunch of our country's tax dollars to the poor directly, they would all most likely stay poor. I'm not talking a few hundred to a couple thousand bucks either, I'm talking $100,000.

You give a poor person $100,000 and they'll most likely pay some bills, buy some toys, then be back into the same hole they were in very soon.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:59:48 PM EDT
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Poor people are generally stupid.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:59:50 PM EDT
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I have seen generation after generation live off of the system. They reproduce around 15 years old. Nobody works or goes to college. They sit in the trailer park waiting for that check to drop every month. Drugs, crime, and no desire to achieve anything in life. We as a society have made being a bum acceptable.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 2:03:02 PM EDT
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Being below the poverty line doesn't make one poor.  Especially compared to the rest of the world.

The poverty line is an arbitrary standard for defining eligibility for government benefits.

Below the poverty line in USA can be high cotton in much of the rest of the world.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 2:03:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Waldo0506:


This. A lot of people are dumb.
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Link Posted: 4/28/2024 2:06:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BMSMB:
Found a stat, for 2022, that said 7.4 million families below the poverty line in the US... that 2.75 trillion breaks down to $371K per family.

Census bureau has 37.9 million people below poverty line in 2022. That 2.75 trillion breaks down to $75K per person.

That amount of money is not reaching the impoverished. Poor has become an industry that people are making big money from. That's why poor still exists.
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People stay/become poor for two reasons:

1. Bad luck
2. Bad choices (stupid and/or untalented)

#2 is 99% of people who are perpetually poor. You can't help them by giving them money. It's like trying to fill the grand canyon with a squirt gun. Stupid people can always lose/waste/spend it faster than you can give it to them. See also the lottery winners who are almost immediately broke.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 2:12:06 PM EDT
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lack of motivation.

gubbmint providing a safety net so they're not properly motivated to work/be successful.

gubbmint enabling them.
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