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Posted: 4/29/2024 1:33:54 AM EDT
With my woods gun I always load hardcast on the belief that with wildlife you need penetration, but it always bugs me because I know that even in the woods the biggest threats are two leggers. If I ever do need the gun I'll probably want hollowpoints.

So how bad would HP be on wildlife?

Say in a suitable caliber, either 357 or 10mm or 44mag, but with something like XTP or even HST.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 2:16:46 AM EDT
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Just alternate every other round in your mag.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 6:16:14 AM EDT
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The XTP tends to penetrate far better than any other brand of rapidly expanding hollowpoint.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 6:42:16 AM EDT
[#3]
what type of wildlife?

we've been using 357sig in ranger jhp for over ten years to put down deer with good effect.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 7:33:50 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Chowser:
what type of wildlife?

we've been using 357sig in ranger jhp for over ten years to put down deer with good effect.
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This.  If you're not facing down moose and griz, HP are probably fine.

You realize Hardcast aren't great on people too, right?
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 7:34:59 AM EDT
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I shoot things I don't have to clean, predators and prairie dogs.  Hollow points work great!  Hides aren't worth picking up anyway.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 7:39:30 AM EDT
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I only change out my carry ammo if i need to meet hunting regs.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 7:40:44 AM EDT
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The most deadly wild life out there is bees, and a good JHP will easily drop a bee.  Also bears and big cats.  Carry a JHP appropriate for two legged dangers, and it will stop four legged dangers.  Just use a heavy for caliber JHP.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 8:43:42 AM EDT
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I live without grizzly so no issues with HST when I’m hiking.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 9:48:32 AM EDT
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I am really not much of a hunter but when you do a lot of reading there are many examples of hollow points failing for some reason or another . Low velocity it doesn't open at all or much , to much velocity and they tend to explode , fall apart if you hit a large bone---whatever.

Big square nose lead bullets just seem to plow through causing lots of damage with any decent hit.

Not talking about using FMJ for hunting but rather a big old soft point or cast semi wadcutter to plow along and get the job done.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 12:08:10 PM EDT
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If it works on critters, it works on people.

My woods gun carries hard cast lead always. I ain't trusting a JHP out of a handgun to stop a pissed off FL boar.
Link Posted: 5/2/2024 9:18:21 AM EDT
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I don't sweat it. Big meplates work really well on game. They'll work just fine on bad guys too
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Link Posted: 5/2/2024 9:22:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By wvfarrier:
The XTP tends to penetrate far better than any other brand of rapidly expanding hollowpoint.
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I carry 200gr XTP in my 10mm woods gun for that reason.
Have finished a couple deer and shot a fox squirrel with it
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 6:51:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RDTCU:

I carry 200gr XTP in my 10mm woods gun for that reason.
Have finished a couple deer and shot a fox squirrel with it
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Damn.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 7:12:40 PM EDT
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After shooting a deer with a .44 magnum hollow point, I can personally say that a 2 legged animal would not continue to be a threat.

You don't want to get shot with a .44 magnum hollow point.
Link Posted: 5/6/2024 10:20:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TGWLDR:


Damn.
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Originally Posted By RDTCU:

I carry 200gr XTP in my 10mm woods gun for that reason.
Have finished a couple deer and shot a fox squirrel with it


Damn.

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Link Posted: 5/8/2024 2:35:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By wvfarrier:
The XTP tends to penetrate far better than any other brand of rapidly expanding hollowpoint.
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Yeah I am thinking 10mm XTP might be a good balance for the woods
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 4:38:29 AM EDT
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I can say that a .410 JHP out of my 20" Marlin did complete penetration on a grey squirrel.  
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 6:00:43 AM EDT
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I will say that a 240 or 250 grain .454 XTP is like the hammer of the Gods on White tails.
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