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Posted: 2/22/2023 12:24:59 PM EDT
Their page states that the range is days to 9 months. I passed 10 months and in 4 days it will be 11 months. So how do they maintain saying the longest is only 9 months? The only reason I bought one was they sold me saying 90 days with e-filing. I did this one as a trial and was looking at several others, but no more. At this point if it were possible I'd rather refund it and be done with this process. It's not worth having the ATF spend that much time looking at one's life for something as benign as a suppressor.
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They didn’t lie. They have no control over the ATF or how many current applications are in or the political climate. When I got my suppressors in 2014 one took 6.5 months the other 5 both filed 3 weeks from each other.
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It's just an estimate and it can vary wildly sometimes month by month. It's not like they have any control over it. If you're an inpatient person NFA firearms probably aren't for you.
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Silencer Shop's approval date range posted on their site is data relating to actual recent approvals, not an estimation of how long unapproved eForms will take. Also, I don't see how Silencer Shop has any control over what the ATF says versus what they actually do. |
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Originally Posted By 10mmillie:They didn’t lie. They have no control over the ATF or how many current applications are in or the political climate. When I got my suppressors in 2014 one took 6.5 months the other 5 both filed 3 weeks from each other. View Quote Their site says the range at it's longest is 9 months. https://www.silencershop.com/atf-wait-times. I'm at 329 days. I wouldn't have a beef if they would accurately state how long it's taking. I'm not saying that the length of time is their fault either, that's the ATF. To me it's deceiving the public if they say they are updating the stats daily and the stats they put out are wrong. Silencer Shop should be able to determine that they have customers who have been waiting longer than the stated 9 months. |
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Originally Posted By mak0: It's just an estimate and it can vary wildly sometimes month by month. It's not like they have any control over it. If you're an inpatient person NFA firearms probably aren't for you. View Quote It has nothing to do with impatience. Maybe reading comprehension isn't your thing so you shouldn't post. |
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Originally Posted By fredegar: Silencer Shop's approval date range posted on their site is data relating to actual recent approvals, not an estimation of how long unapproved eForms will take. Also, I don't see how Silencer Shop has any control over what the ATF says versus what they actually do. View Quote Silencer Shop states 9 months is the longest it takes. It takes longer, I know this because I'm one of those. Silencer Shop SHOULD be aware that they have customers that are taking longer than 9 months. They SHOULD know somewhere in their records that there are still outstanding filers. So to then state on their page that the longest time is 9 months is not accurate, it doesn't matter if they update daily or not. Basing the wait time data on their daily snapshot if that's what your arguing isn't right. That's akin to saying everyone in the 100 meter race runs as fast Bolt, because he finished first. The rest of the pack behind him may finish in 15 seconds, so the range would be when the last one finishes, not when Bolt crosses the line. |
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Perhaps you should find another hobby. One that involves a lot less stress.
I'm coming up on 10 months on a .22LR can. It'll get here when it gets here. |
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Call 'em up and cancel your order. Then call the aft and get your loot back. You'll probably be looking at a restocking fee though.
Or continue to wait. Those are your only two choices I think. |
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Originally Posted By gonetotexas: https://i.postimg.cc/ZYNzs9sy/Screenshot-2023-02-22-112545.png View Quote Even though it’s impossible to know exactly how long ATF wait times will be in the future, the best indicator is typically to look at what’s currently being approved. Damn, am I the only person that reads the word range as how long it takes? If I had a company as big as Silencer Company I think I'd have a spreadsheet with outstanding filers. True? I'm not asking anyone to predict anything, just report the data they have accurately. If they have that data of filers who are outstanding and they have wait times beyond the reported 9 months then it isn't an honest range. |
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Originally Posted By im_monster_man: Silencer Shop states 9 months is the longest it takes. It takes longer, I know this because I'm one of those. Silencer Shop SHOULD be aware that they have customers that are taking longer than 9 months. They SHOULD know somewhere in their records that there are still outstanding filers. So to then state on their page that the longest time is 9 months is not accurate, it doesn't matter if they update daily or not. Basing the wait time data on their daily snapshot if that's what your arguing isn't right. That's akin to saying everyone in the 100 meter race runs as fast Bolt, because he finished first. The rest of the pack behind him may finish in 15 seconds, so the range would be when the last one finishes, not when Bolt crosses the line. View Quote It says through nine months. It also states the median wait is nine months. Where are they saying 9 months is the maximum it has been known to take? Why do you have that impression in the first place? The way I'm reading the website, they specifically warn you against interpreting this kind of thing the way you have. Multiple times. In all kinds of different places. Without you specifically quoting language from the site, I am having trouble believing anyone could reasonably interpret anything on the entirety of the website to suggest that 9 months is the longest anyone has been known to wait. And even if it did the language is clear that your experience could well be expected to be different. In short, call your congressman instead, and bitch about the ATF not delivering on the 90 days deadline they were instructed to meet. |
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Originally Posted By im_monster_man: Even though it’s impossible to know exactly how long ATF wait times will be in the future, the best indicator is typically to look at what’s currently being approved. Damn, am I the only person that reads the word range as how long it takes? If I had a company as big as Silencer Company I think I'd have a spreadsheet with outstanding filers. True? I'm not asking anyone to predict anything, just report the data they have accurately. If they have that data of filers who are outstanding and they have wait times beyond the reported 9 months then it isn't an honest range. View Quote It's an honest range. Especially as they prominently disclaim the interpretation you're making. If I say I'll "be working through the last of the month" you know that I will still be working on the thirtieth and some unstated amount of time after that as well. The statement does not in any way suggest or imply anything more than that. Finally, you could look at nfatracker yourself. |
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Originally Posted By John-in-austin: Perhaps you should find another hobby. One that involves a lot less stress. I'm coming up on 10 months on a .22LR can. It'll get here when it gets here. View Quote It isn't stress. I could have bought a suppressor for years but the process was said to always be so long I decided not to. The this e-filing thing was touted to do it in 90 days, so I figured it was time . I get that Silencer Shop didn't come up with that number. The thing I'm ticked off about is if that Silencer Shop is protecting the ATF by not honestly stating how long it takes or is it being dishonest as to not scare away potential customers? |
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Originally Posted By im_monster_man: Their page states that the range is days to 9 months. I passed 10 months and in 4 days it will be 11 months. So how do they maintain saying the longest is only 9 months? The only reason I bought one was they sold me saying 90 days with e-filing. I did this one as a trial and was looking at several others, but no more. At this point if it were possible I'd rather refund it and be done with this process. It's not worth having the ATF spend that much time looking at one's life for something as benign as a suppressor. View Quote Also, ATF isn't looking at your life that whole time. They're not even started on your stamp probably. ATF doesn't really do any actual investigation, they're just delaying things on purpose for the sake of delaying. They probably like being the spigot where they can drip out the number of regulated items on a whim. Also, you have consistently been trying to hold a private company to estimates they have made when the actual delay is from the government agency who has been operating unchecked since its creation, beholden to no one and nothing including the law, their own regulations and policies, etc - nevermind some company that sells regulated items. Despite that company very clearly telling you they are estimates and warning you about how broken the system is. Is this your first stamp of any kind? You're going to have to learn to relax. Originally Posted By im_monster_man: It isn't stress. I could have bought a suppressor for years but the process was said to always be so long I decided not to. The this e-filing thing was touted to do it in 90 days, so I figured it was time . I get that Silencer Shop didn't come up with that number. The thing I'm ticked off about is if that Silencer Shop is protecting the ATF by not honestly stating how long it takes or is it being dishonest as to not scare away potential customers? View Quote You are trying way too hard to lay this at SilencerShop's feet and arguing in bad faith. They have very clearly shown their good intentions, showed the data they have, and been honest. Compare that to you in this thread. What have you been doing? |
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I sure miss the days of 1.5 month approvals
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FTFTWFMF
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Originally Posted By Mike327: It says through nine months. It also states the median wait is nine months. Where are they saying 9 months is the maximum it has been known to take? Why do you have that impression in the first place? View Quote Range: A number or grouping of things in the same category or within specified limits., An amount or extent of variation. |
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"I miss the days of being able to shoot all commies" G.B.
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Originally Posted By im_monster_man: That's it. Had Silencer Shop said that they have people waiting 12 months or more I'd reconsider. Nothing more. View Quote The times are not constant, consistent, or predictable. They vary. And you don't know how long it will take until it takes that long. Silencershop very clearly warned you about this. So did everything else around NFA items. |
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Originally Posted By Mike327:The times are not ... predictable. They vary. And you don't know how long it will take until it takes that long. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mike327:The times are not ... predictable. They vary. And you don't know how long it will take until it takes that long. So Silencer Shop has no idea that they have customers waiting longer than 9 months? Originally Posted By Mike327:Silencershop very clearly warned you about this. No they didn't, they're saying on their site the longest is 9 months, Yeah, I'm holding onto that definition of range like a dog with a bone. Originally Posted By Mike327:So did everything else around NFA items. I was aware of how long it took, but then this e-filing thing came online so I took the bait. I figured even if it was beyond the touted 90 days it was better than a year or more. Well, e-filed and a year or more isn't far off. As a matter of fact where I purchased mine there was a young lady in there recently and she said hers took more than a year. So I'm not arguing so much for me personally as to wanting the facts to be what they are, not sugar coating it. |
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Buddy of mine just got his stamp today he submitted May 31 through the SS kiosk.
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"I miss the days of being able to shoot all commies" G.B.
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Originally Posted By akethan: Buddy of mine just got his stamp today he submitted May 31 through the SS kiosk. View Quote That's awesome. It gives me other questions that I'm not arguing here, like how if the ATF is working on a so-called certain date then how can someone get their's approved in shorter times, like days? How did the days approved person's application get to the front? Great for that person but those still waiting aren't thrilled. With all the improvements in computers this process should be faster and easier, it isn't as if we're asking for an item that does something nefarious. People in Europe can walk into a store and walk out with the suppressor the same as a gallon of milk. |
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Originally Posted By im_monster_man: 1. So Silencer Shop has no idea that they have customers waiting longer than 9 months? 2. No they didn't, they're saying on their site the longest is 9 months, Yeah, I'm holding onto that definition of range like a dog with a bone. 3. I was aware of how long it took, but then this e-filing thing came online so I took the bait. I figured even if it was beyond the touted 90 days it was better than a year or more. Well, e-filed and a year or more isn't far off. As a matter of fact where I purchased mine there was a young lady in there recently and she said hers took more than a year. So I'm not arguing so much for me personally as to wanting the facts to be what they are, not sugar coating it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By im_monster_man: Originally Posted By Mike327:The times are not ... predictable. They vary. And you don't know how long it will take until it takes that long. 1. So Silencer Shop has no idea that they have customers waiting longer than 9 months? Originally Posted By Mike327:Silencershop very clearly warned you about this. 2. No they didn't, they're saying on their site the longest is 9 months, Yeah, I'm holding onto that definition of range like a dog with a bone. Originally Posted By Mike327:So did everything else around NFA items. 3. I was aware of how long it took, but then this e-filing thing came online so I took the bait. I figured even if it was beyond the touted 90 days it was better than a year or more. Well, e-filed and a year or more isn't far off. As a matter of fact where I purchased mine there was a young lady in there recently and she said hers took more than a year. So I'm not arguing so much for me personally as to wanting the facts to be what they are, not sugar coating it. Numbered for convenience. 1. No, that's not what 'predictable' means. When you bought, they had no idea how long it would take your stamp, only how long it took stamps submitted however many days ago that just came back prior to you ordering. So if you ordered during a time when approvals took 100 days, that means they only knew that because people had submitted stamps 100 days prior that came back. If in this hypothetical, you still didn't have approvals 99 days after you ordered, there would still be no evidence that it was going to take longer than 100 days. SilencerShop cannot predict the future. 2. Unfortunately that's going to continue to leave you disappointed if you hold onto the definition of one word and ignore all the other words around it. I've explained why it's a mistaken reading. 3. No one likes the situation (except maybe the ATF). Especially with the bullshit in WA and the ridiculous complications that creates if you have stamps waiting to be processed. I lived in MA during Maura Healey's bullshit (which is ongoing by the way, and she's governor now) and I had stamps during that whole time. You have some options if you want to move and they all suck but they're better than being stuck between multiple levels of immovable and implacable bureaucracy that would prefer people like you and me dead. |
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Originally Posted By im_monster_man: That's awesome. It gives me other questions that I'm not arguing here, like how if the ATF is working on a so-called certain date then how can someone get their's approved in shorter times, like days? How did the days approved person's application get to the front? Great for that person but those still waiting aren't thrilled. With all the improvements in computers this process should be faster and easier, it isn't as if we're asking for an item that does something nefarious. People in Europe can walk into a store and walk out with the suppressor the same as a gallon of milk. View Quote You're preaching to the choir. |
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It clearly says MEDIAN wait. As the other poster pointed out, Median doesn't mean maximum. They're not being dishonest or sandbagging you. They're saying -on average-, the wait is between 140 days and 9 months. You're outside of the average. Someone has to be, and you're it. Congratulations.
The median is the value in the middle of a data set, meaning that 50% of data points have a value smaller or equal to the median and 50% of data points have a value higher or equal to the median. |
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Originally Posted By hoothrewpoo: It clearly says MEDIAN wait. As the other poster pointed out, Median doesn't mean maximum. They're not being dishonest or sandbagging you. They're saying -on average-, the wait is between 140 days and 9 months. You're outside of the average. Someone has to be, and you're it. Congratulations. The median is the value in the middle of a data set, meaning that 50% of data points have a value smaller or equal to the median and 50% of data points have a value higher or equal to the median. View Quote So you're ignoring what I'm arguing, range. I've not said a word about median. BTW, median isn't an average. For instance 1,2,3,4, 9,9,9,9 the median would be 6.5 but the average would be 5.75. I think that's how median works but I'm 60 so it's been a while. |
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The ATF and government are here to help you
Wait or March up to the ATF and demand them to expedite your process |
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Originally Posted By gasgas: The ATF and government are here to help you Wait or March up to the ATF and demand them to expedite your process View Quote Reagan was right when he said those are the most terrifying words. I will march up there and also demand they shut down after they bend over so I can insert my pistol brace where the sun don't shine. No fan of the ATF, that's what I'm really bitching about. |
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Originally Posted By im_monster_man: So you're ignoring what I'm arguing, range. I've not said a word about median. BTW, median isn't an average. For instance 1,2,3,4, 9,9,9,9 the median would be 5 but the average would be 5.75. I think that's how median works but I'm 60 so it's been a while. View Quote The median would be 6.5 Since you had an even number, 8 digits, the median splits the difference between numbers 4 & 5 of your data set (4,9). If you had 9 numbers in your set it would have been the 5th number of the data set. A median of 9 months implies that 50% of their data on approvals is 9 months OR greater. And 50% of their approvals are 9 months OR less. That includes numbers like 8 months and 30 days. I see your point, “the range” they list might be a little misleading, but it’s out of their control. You wouldn’t have had any better luck buying from anywhere else. I hate to say it, but you probably should have known better. I can’t go a day here without seeing a post from someone saying that they’re a year into their wait Your frustration is being placed on the wrong party. It’s the ATF you should be upset with. Their process makes zero sense and they’re the ones that promised 90 days or less. Noone else. Take a breath, you’re probably not that far off from getting your stamp. |
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Originally Posted By im_monster_man: Their page states that the range is days to 9 months. I passed 10 months and in 4 days it will be 11 months. So how do they maintain saying the longest is only 9 months? The only reason I bought one was they sold me saying 90 days with e-filing. I did this one as a trial and was looking at several others, but no more. At this point if it were possible I'd rather refund it and be done with this process. It's not worth having the ATF spend that much time looking at one's life for something as benign as a suppressor. View Quote IT IS NOT SILENCERSHOP’s fault…stop being a Karen…maybe at age 60 you haven’t gained much wisdom and patience… |
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Originally Posted By Dat1Guy117: The median would be 6.5 Since you had an even number, 8 digits, the median splits the difference between numbers 4 & 5 of your data set (4,9). If you had 9 numbers in your set it would have been the 5th number of the data set. A median of 9 months implies that 50% of their data on approvals is 9 months OR greater. And 50% of their approvals are 9 months OR less. That includes numbers like 8 months and 30 days. I see your point, “the range” they list might be a little misleading, but it’s out of their control. You wouldn’t have had any better luck buying from anywhere else. I hate to say it, but you probably should have know better. I can’t go a day here without seeing a post from saying that they’re a year into their wait Your frustration is being placed on the wrong party. It’s the ATF you should be upset with. Their process makes zero sense and they’re the ones that promised 90 days or less. Noone else. Take a breath, you’re probably not that far off from getting your stamp. View Quote I had that median fixed, it was a typo. I am frustrated or my displeasure is with the ATF. Silencer Shop is seemingly protecting them if they don't display am accurate range. So my thought goes to why, to keep customers from shying away? That's the gist. |
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Originally Posted By thehun06: IT IS NOT SILENCERSHOP’s fault…stop being a Karen…maybe at age 60 you haven’t gained much wisdom and patience… View Quote You must have gone to school in Baltimore. And you must be a liberal. Liberals will attack the messenger and not the message. Kids in Baltimore can't read at level. |
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Originally Posted By im_monster_man: You must have gone to school in Baltimore. And you must be a liberal. Liberals will attack the messenger and not the message. Kids in Baltimore can't read at level. View Quote Good grief. Get a life. This the game in the NFA… My first can was 13 months, next was 102 days and my third is still not approved since October…get over your childish comments. SilencerShop and many others have done more to get cans in people hands than this dumb thread you posted…really…you are just proving to the forum how much of a Karen attitude you have… Literally no one has agreed about what you have written. That alone should be your CLUE that you are clearly in the wrong. GO TAKE A NAP…maybe that will help you have a clear mind about this… |
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Originally Posted By im_monster_man: Again a product of the Baltimore school system. "If 'range' was the only word in question, you might have a point." "I see your point, “the range” they list might be a little misleading, " Do you know what literally means? View Quote You are clearly too stubborn to dip your feet into the NFA game…go drink your prune juice and take a nap…let life go on…the NFA wait game isn’t set in stone…I bet we will see further delays since the pistol brace regs and the influx of eform1 filings… But. This thread is dumb. You are being a Karen about all this especially with your “prove me” attitude is just over the top…go complain about this to your backyard animals and image they are your friends that care about you complaining about something you shouldn’t complain about… |
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Avatar fits.
Go hulk smash something after you read up on the NFA forum and wait times, or take into consideration the amount of cucks trying to register their braced pistols. The fact that you're complaining about a couple extra months in this political climate is hilarious. "Maybe reading comprehension isn't your thing so you shouldn't post." - Internet tough guy, calling people liberals while attacking their responses (typical liberal behavior)....at 60 Go yell at some clouds old man. |
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Originally Posted By im_monster_man: Again a product of the Baltimore school system. "If 'range' was the only word in question, you might have a point." "I see your point, “the range” they list might be a little misleading, " Do you know what literally means? View Quote Since I recognize my own words - I do not agree with you. Notice the "if". And while we're at it, you're the only one in this thread that has failed to comprehend the very straightforward language on SilencerShop's website. Were I you, I would not attempt to criticize the reading skills of others that did not struggle with this task. |
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Originally Posted By thehun06: You are clearly too stubborn to dip your feet into the NFA game…go drink your prune juice and take a nap…let life go on…the NFA wait game isn’t set in stone…I bet we will see further delays since the pistol brace regs and the influx of eform1 filings… But. This thread is dumb. You are being a Karen about all this especially with your “prove me” attitude is just over the top…go complain about this to your backyard animals and image they are your friends that care about you complaining about something you shouldn’t complain about… View Quote The only thing you've got right about me is I'm stubborn. My superiors in the Navy called me a pitbull, more than once, when I got a hold of something or argued a point. It isn't being a Karen when the company that has led me to spend more than a couple of grand gives me data that isn't factual or accurate. Maybe that isn't a lot of money to you but it is for me. To be 100% honest, this point I'm arguing wasn't my thought originally. I agreed with someone after having a discussion with someone I know. But I do stand by it now, 100%. I don't understand why someone would get their panties bunched because a person calls out a company. Do you have a vested interest in Silencer Shop? Why attack a person in a personal manner for calling a company out? That makes no sense to me. I've been online fighting with liberals for years and that's their modus operandi to a T. So keep it up all you want, I feel I can go toe to toe with anyone. Liberals say some of the most retarded shit and have been good training. |
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Originally Posted By Mike327: Since I recognize my own words - I do not agree with you. Notice the "if". And while we're at it, you're the only one in this thread that has failed to comprehend the very straightforward language on SilencerShop's website. Were I you, I would not attempt to criticize the reading skills of others that did not struggle with this task. View Quote sorry, my bad, I read might have a point as saying otherwise |
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Originally Posted By im_monster_man: The only thing you've got right about me is I'm stubborn. My superiors in the Navy called me a pitbull, more than once, when I got a hold of something or argued a point. It isn't being a Karen when the company that has led me to spend more than a couple of grand gives me data that isn't factual or accurate. Maybe that isn't a lot of money to you but it is for me. To be 100% honest, this point I'm arguing wasn't my thought originally. I agreed with someone after having a discussion with someone I know. But I do stand by it now, 100%. I don't understand why someone would get their panties bunched because a person calls out a company. Do you have a vested interest in Silencer Shop? Why attack a person in a personal manner for calling a company out? That makes no sense to me. I've been online fighting with liberals for years and that's their modus operandi to a T. So keep it up all you want, I feel I can go toe to toe with anyone. Liberals say some of the most retarded shit and have been good training. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By im_monster_man: Originally Posted By thehun06: You are clearly too stubborn to dip your feet into the NFA game…go drink your prune juice and take a nap…let life go on…the NFA wait game isn’t set in stone…I bet we will see further delays since the pistol brace regs and the influx of eform1 filings… But. This thread is dumb. You are being a Karen about all this especially with your “prove me” attitude is just over the top…go complain about this to your backyard animals and image they are your friends that care about you complaining about something you shouldn’t complain about… The only thing you've got right about me is I'm stubborn. My superiors in the Navy called me a pitbull, more than once, when I got a hold of something or argued a point. It isn't being a Karen when the company that has led me to spend more than a couple of grand gives me data that isn't factual or accurate. Maybe that isn't a lot of money to you but it is for me. To be 100% honest, this point I'm arguing wasn't my thought originally. I agreed with someone after having a discussion with someone I know. But I do stand by it now, 100%. I don't understand why someone would get their panties bunched because a person calls out a company. Do you have a vested interest in Silencer Shop? Why attack a person in a personal manner for calling a company out? That makes no sense to me. I've been online fighting with liberals for years and that's their modus operandi to a T. So keep it up all you want, I feel I can go toe to toe with anyone. Liberals say some of the most retarded shit and have been good training. To answer your question in my case - because you're accusing them of something. Multiple things, actually. That they're not remotely guilty of. If you'd come in and said "Hey, the website still says 9 months, but my thing is 11 months and nfatracker shows that's pretty common right now. Maybe SilencerShop should update their website? " this thread would have gone very differently. |
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Originally Posted By im_monster_man: The only thing you've got right about me is I'm stubborn. My superiors in the Navy called me a pitbull, more than once, when I got a hold of something or argued a point. It isn't being a Karen when the company that has led me to spend more than a couple of grand gives me data that isn't factual or accurate. Maybe that isn't a lot of money to you but it is for me. To be 100% honest, this point I'm arguing wasn't my thought originally. I agreed with someone after having a discussion with someone I know. But I do stand by it now, 100%. I don't understand why someone would get their panties bunched because a person calls out a company. Do you have a vested interest in Silencer Shop? Why attack a person in a personal manner for calling a company out? That makes no sense to me. I've been online fighting with liberals for years and that's their modus operandi to a T. So keep it up all you want, I feel I can go toe to toe with anyone. Liberals say some of the most retarded shit and have been good training. View Quote Read your last sentence…and re-read again because you posted about the most retarded crap about your wait time…AND NO ONE AGREES WITH YOUR STATEMENTS. FREAKIN’ get the picture man… No one cares that you were a pitbull in the Navy. What kind of stupid boomer statement is that…tough guy…NO ONE CARES! |
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This thread is gold. lol. I have had form 4's take 11 months, I've had them take 28 days. Trying to find the logic in anything government related is wasted energy. Shit, my form 1 took 6 months. I had friends submit theirs weeks after me and get approvals in a matter of 3 weeks.
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Originally Posted By im_monster_man: Not what I'm complaining about. View Quote So...if you received your stamp in 9 months and 1 day. Would you still have made this post? What was the driving factor behind this post....the wait time. You then found semantics you could argue on the company website you purchased from, and ran with it. It really comes down to how you handle unexpected events, and you failed. It's ok, I expect to be pretty grumpy at 60 too. |
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View Quote OP should beg the mods to nuke this shit show of a thread. |
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Sucks and part of the reason I've never got into the NFA game
Stamps should be approved immediately |
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This is why I will never have a business dealing with the public.
Pure lack of common sense and reading comprehension. Then it becomes my fault that they don't possess those things. No thanks. |
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