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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:00:59 PM EDT
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I'm facing something similar. I just got a notice the other day that my rent is going up $300 in July, and I'm already barely staying afloat. Technically I'm not even doing that because I have to prioritize which bills I pay on time every month.
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:01:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MADMAXXX: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/522423/20210513_083724-2148308.jpghttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/522423/20210513_083646-2148306.jpgI pay less than $600 for a 2 bedroom, 2 bath pool view with balcony, furnished condo less then 2 blocks, 8 minutes walk to the beach. I also just pay $40 a month electricity and $20 water.  https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/522423/20210513_084400-2148324.jpgCool, now calculate how much you lose in time and energy determining whether or not she was a biological her? Them MEU boys didn't call that place The Gauntlet for nada, amigo. But hey, nice pad. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:01:18 PM EDT
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The US is going to choke under the load of a handful of
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:01:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By denverdan: I bet they still need eelektrcitee in OH.  indubitably. but it's still OH and who wood move to OH voluntarily? 
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:02:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By maslin02: $588 a month puts you around $80k. That gets me a 5,600 sq ft lot with a nice view outside a nothing town, 0.5 acres of dirt on the highway west of town, or a 1971 trailer in a park on rented land. Something close to your example with a "no value" trailer is $389k, 30 minutes from town. If I wanted to live way out in coal country past Roanoke somewhere, I could find something better than a run down trailer for 300-400k. The problem is the lack of work for me. I'm already in the sticks as it is... 20 miles to a grocery store. At least I dropped my monthly to 1100/mo vs the 1900 it would've been. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:02:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jonny762: Didn't start saving until too late, didn't get while the gettin' was good. Live alone. Found a fairly nice place three years ago for $650. Lease is up at the end of next month. Sometime last year began a noticeable influx of what the left likes to call "migrants", which is growing by the month. They seem to mostly have Florida id's. I know this because they like to leave all their personal shit lying around the laundry room, which has become a defacto social hall and is usually filled with four or five adults and about a dozen very young children at any time of the day or night. I don't know what language they're speaking, but they either don't understand English or pretend not to if you try to talk to them. There was never an issue with any type of crime here that I know of, but that's changing too. We had so many car break-ins and domestics in the past six months that the cops now like to sit at the entrance to the parking lot at night and run speed, just to keep an eye on things. We have three dumpsters for the building, which are constantly full past capacity, to the point that bags of trash just pile up around them like a fucking landfill spilling food, alcohol, dirty diapers, etc. everywhere. The pool, which was the best part of living here, became overrun with so many kids from dawn until dusk that it became impossible to enjoy. They filled it in a few months back and now we have a nice big dirt courtyard instead. Oh, and on my lease renewal application I found out they're increasing the rent another $75/month, up from the $35 bump the last two years. So now I have 30 days to find a new place. I go online and filter under $800, which is about my price point, and there's basically nothing. I don't know how these people are even getting approved or affording to live here, since none of them seem to have cars or go to work. I know, go be poor somewhere else. I just had to vent. TLDR: Today is my one day off, it's 85 degrees, and instead of sitting out by the pool enjoying a drink with civilized people I'm sitting inside looking for a new place to live, listening to my new neighbors jabber in whatever Godforsaken language they speak while gaggles of feral kids screech outside and the entire building reeks of what I can only assume is the same long pig stew they cook from morning until night every day. You work 6 days a week and can only afford 800.00 a month rent? 
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:03:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wolverine1776: I'm facing something similar. I just got a notice the other day that my rent is going up $300 in July, and I'm already barely staying afloat. Technically I'm not even doing that because I have to prioritize which bills I pay on time every month. I don't enjoy being alive.
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OR, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:06:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alex_F: If I wanted to live way out in coal country past Roanoke somewhere, I could find something better than a run down trailer for 300-400k. The problem is the lack of work for me. I'm already in the sticks as it is... 20 miles to a grocery store. At least I dropped my monthly to 1100/mo vs the 1900 it would've been. Might as well find some roommates and stay in Blacksburg at that point We looked at moving back to Charlottesville, wages are half what they are here and housing is 80% or so. Gotta have that old money. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:07:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By denverdan:  Or western Colorado. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By denverdan: Originally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: Originally Posted By Giltweasel: The $588/mo includes 5.17 acres, a vintage 1976 mobile-home with methbilly built outbuildings, 10 neighbors in the subdivision, $360 a year subdivision road and well maintenance fees, and a 3 mile drive to town. But we butt up against 120 wooded acres of a Century farm on one edge and 80 acres of working corn and soybean fields on another. It's not a country estate or hobby farm environment. But that isn't an obstacle to turning our part into one. The kicker is the same circumstances probably exist within 30-50 miles of every whiner in this thread. Or western Colorado. We are close enough to the city to go to Cardinals games on the regular if we wanted. Same with access to specialty hospitals, the major universities, and a selection of shopping, dining, and the little cultural enclaves that have "neat" benefits like unusual foods or crafts. We are far enough that we aren't required to pay exorbitant prices for slummy, shithole, fixer-upper, entry level housing. We have cable or fiber internet if you want, and our smart phones work out here too. That's true for the $1500 iPhones and the $50 Walmart androids both. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:08:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By maslin02: Might as well find some roommates and stay in Blacksburg at that point We looked at moving back to Charlottesville, wages are half what they are here and housing is 80% or so. Gotta have that old money. lol, I work in the Fredericksburg/Quantico area office-wise so my commute went from 20 minutes to over 2 hours when I moved in August, but the cost of living sucks up there. Moving further west won't happen because it'd bump me to 4-5 hours one way. That's an overnight. Fortunately I do WFH most of the time so I can manage this but I need to buy a house at some point... looking at Caroline county right now. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:09:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: but why move to OH? at least move somewhere enjoyable for a few years. then once saddled with crippling debt, a job you hate, and kids then move to the rust belt. Fair 
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:10:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eagarminuteman: Wife and I should consider OH after I graduate. All those places would likely be 300-400k in AZ. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:12:58 PM EDT
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If you were 55 you could snag a troublewide in a park down here. You and a room mate could split the mortgage and the around $1K a month lot fee and party down. Lot fee usually includes lawn care, water and sewer. Most are fully furnished down to the doilies on the chairs. Club house with pool and BINGO Thurs night. https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1904-Birkdale-Ln-Ocala-FL-34472/2104078022_zpid/?
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:18:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LRShooter: If you can bump your budget up to $1500 a month, you can get a pretty nice house in that area of Ohio. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:23:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jonny762]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WTF54: You work 6 days a week and can only afford 800.00 a month rent? |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:24:55 PM EDT
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Someone needs to do a class action suit against illegal aliens and their sponsors. They are illegal and impacting the sanctity of life for too many people.
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:25:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jonny762: Didn't start saving until too late, didn't get while the gettin' was good. Live alone. Found a fairly nice place three years ago for $650. Lease is up at the end of next month. You found a place to live for $650 a month? That's, that is incredible. My 2nd youngest is back at home with us for a while (great kid (6' 315lb food destroying machine, the pantry would fair better if He'll either have to leave the area, or find a couple of roommates. That, or I buy a small chunk of unimproved land that he can 'homestead' on (an actual serious consideration). May the Force be with you, hope you find something that meets your needs  |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:26:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burnka871: Fairly nice / 650 a month...what lol Oh shutup |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:27:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Precious87: He'll either have to leave the area, or find a couple of roommates. That, or I buy a small chunk of unimproved land that he can 'homestead' on (an actual serious consideration).  Stealth Step Van TOUR - FedEx Truck Converted into Tiny Home |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:32:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: Originally Posted By Precious87: He'll either have to leave the area, or find a couple of roommates. That, or I buy a small chunk of unimproved land that he can 'homestead' on (an actual serious consideration).  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZzqBh9LOTsThis is the way, feller. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:33:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Giltweasel]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By maslin02: $588 a month puts you around $80k. That gets me a 5,600 sq ft lot with a nice view outside a nothing town, 0.5 acres of dirt on the highway west of town, or a 1971 trailer in a park on rented land. Something close to your example with a "no value" trailer is $389k, 30 minutes from town. An hour from town with a 1997 trailer and a small "shop" is $580k... for a trailer. $588 a month was reasonable 20+ years ago when the wife was making $17.50/hr. I would take part time or temp.work for $10/hr when needed. We both make double that now and parcels like what we want are available for a range of $1,000-1400 a month in Wyoming, Colorado, Minnesota, Western panhandle Florida, and for a little more in Montana with reasonable access to Yellowstone from Bozeman or Billings. We found places that could be made livable for less money and more sweat invested, but we are old enough now not to be in a 25-35 year old mindset about starting from scratch. Even so there are used mobile homes that aren't burned out wrecks that could be stripped to the frame and rebuilt as a small cabin with any level of quality you want. Put that on a place with water, sewer, and electric and expand your skillset. Takes a bit of work though. These are places with water, electric, sewer or septic. Many already have liveable houses or mobile homes. All have potential with 20 years of sweat invested to be awesome. Expand your search radius. Re-examine what "decent" or "nice" means. I wouldn't want to start from scratch right now either, but that's after 30 years of starting from scratch a few times in places that weren't always as nice as my mom and dads house. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:34:34 PM EDT
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Damn. Looking at those prices, they're more than my mortgage for a house on 4.5 ac.
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:35:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scalped: This is the way, feller. you can't take the sky from me.gif 
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:42:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI seriously considered a motorhome towing my LC behind but I quickly found that there aren't many year-round plots for one to rent, just seasonal. Trying to get electric and water hookups at Walmart isn't a thing. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:44:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alex_F: I seriously considered a motorhome towing my LC behind but I quickly found that there aren't many year-round plots for one to rent, just seasonal. Trying to get electric and water hookups at Walmart isn't a thing. i've thought long and hard about this. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:44:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ramairthree: Take a close look at the legend. https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/uu220/ramairfour/F772EED1-422F-4F4C-8EA0-B57BD8D68CAB.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds" target="_blank">https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/uu220/ramairfour/F772EED1-422F-4F4C-8EA0-B57BD8D68CAB.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds Speer ate out the top 0.01% and the top 0.1%. They have risen and concentrated way out of proportion. The top 1% everyone bitches about, is more the same rise, just with more assets. It’s proportional. As is the top quintile as a whole. The next three quintiles- 60% of the population, is not rising any better, and at times worse, than the lowest quintile. We are pouring resources into parasitic bottom feeders at the expense of the productive population. The top 0.1 to 0.01 percent or so- the political, financial, social, legal elite Are essential raping the next 0.9%. The next 9%- Making the next 40% or so bleak To get rich and buy off the bottom 40% or so, - To stay in power. https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/uu220/ramairfour/84497F1D-806B-4B3C-A396-A7B3D94EA085.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds" target="_blank">https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/uu220/ramairfour/84497F1D-806B-4B3C-A396-A7B3D94EA085.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds The game should have been up decades ago- But we have leveraged cheap overseas labor, illegally imported bottom end labor, legally imported higher end labor- Defecit spend twice our income tax revenue each year, And bluff the rest of the world into pretending our dollar is worth a dollar and not just printed.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:44:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jonny762: It blows my mind that $825 is considered cheap for rent now. Mind you, when I moved in three years ago this was one of the higher end places in town at $650 (advertised as "luxury apartment homes"). I didn't think I'd have any issue finding another place under $800, but times they are a-changin' I guess. Good Luck in your search. If I may offer another perspective. I pay 2080 a month for a 1 bedroom, thats just Rent/Water/Trash; does not include electricity, internet, wireless phone, insurance.. Keep your head up! You will find something. Is a roommate out of the question? When I moved out here in 2009 (near DC), my DC living coworkers were stacked up 5 to 8 to a town home that was renting for 5k a month (in 2009). |
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USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:47:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alex_F: And you just have to live as an expat! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alex_F: Originally Posted By MADMAXXX: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/522423/20210513_083724-2148308.jpghttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/522423/20210513_083646-2148306.jpgI pay less than $600 for a 2 bedroom, 2 bath pool view with balcony, furnished condo less then 2 blocks, 8 minutes walk to the beach. I also just pay $40 a month electricity and $20 water. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/522423/20210513_084400-2148324.jpgAnd you just have to live as an expat! Well they say America is an idea 😵💫 |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:50:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scalped: Unless he's got stud-level credit, he's going to be ass raped w/ PMI. And he has to live in the place for at least 12 months before renting it out, if done with a conventional loan. VHA would be worse I think especially with reliance on state law and lender regs. Bro. He lives in a complex. This is his chance to get his own place that can be a future 100% money maker, while living affordably and becoming a landlord. He can rent out the other side day one, what? Also PMI on $200k would be about $70/mo tops. WTF??? |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:52:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: i gotchu fam: An option, but we'd likely build something un-permanent. I'm in the home building industry and have a few connections for materials, and can frame / roof / plumb / wire / side / paint / install cabs & flooring myself (though most of my contractors would show up to help for free, if I told them what I was doing, what it was for). The more I think about it, and the fact that all the kids, save one, are nearby, the amount we pay monthly... I just might pickup 20 acres to hedge against, issues. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 5:59:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jonny762: North, about 45 min south of Toledo. Wood and Hancock Co’s are pricey. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 6:10:26 PM EDT
[#33]
My mortgage is cheaper than nearly every apartment around us. Granted we bought the house for $259k and a 2.2% mortgage rate.
Rentals are all $1600 and up for multi bedroom apartments and rental homes. We pay $1100 mortgage and an extra $500 in principal each month. We thought about selling and renting for a bit to find something further out away from city limits. But with northerners and people from out west moving in with money to burn from sale prices where they are from, it's hard to find anything that people aren't paying way above asking for. Having a house built is crazy now also. It's up close to or above $300 per sq ft now. Couldn't imagine apartment living now with no telling what kind of 3rd world shithole neighbor you would get. |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 6:23:42 PM EDT
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Only an idiot rents a place to live.
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Posted: 4/28/2024 6:24:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jeffg: Only an idiot rents a place to live. imagine being that poor. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 6:29:32 PM EDT
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Yep, that's why I made the tough decision to sell my home in GA and lose out on the perfect mortgage rate....
Lots of plates from FL and CA, where they literally ran down the neighborhood....drug selling, unkept lawns, trash all over, slumlords renting to them and 4 families living on top of each other...they even were bulling the other Hispanic neighbors, who not only were friends of ours, but never did the things they did. **sigh*** |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 6:32:30 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OregonShooter: Damn Ohio is cheap. Here is a low-mid level apartment in Portland, OR https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/76/apartments_JPG-3200472.JPG Yea but who would live in Poltland? |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 6:34:06 PM EDT
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you can thank the US.Gov for all these issues with Immigrants driving up housing.
they cater to them and get the paperwork started before they ever leave the other country. death from within |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 6:35:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: callgood]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: agreed, $150k is too much. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: Originally Posted By Explorer225: You can find them in my area for 150ish it's too much but what's a man going to do. there's always used...........  Epic and Honest Mobile Home Commercial |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 6:40:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ibn_Huq]
[#40]
I may retire in Ohio
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Posted: 4/28/2024 6:41:05 PM EDT
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Quote Historyabout 10 years ago i looked at buying a used trailer in a trailer pahk in montucky. trailer was only $40k (old beat up singlewide, no carport, no shed, no porch/patio) but the lot rent was $800/mo. that was a lot of money back then for lot rent so i noped the fuck outta there.  now i play this when i work in the trailer park:  Paul Thorn: Burn Down The Trailer Park @eagarminuteman |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 6:47:33 PM EDT
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Living in an expensive area has its advantages.
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NY, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 7:02:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLPettimoreIII: renters lol. imagine being that poor. I would buy a used POS trailer and live in a Trailer Park before I paid some dipshit $1500 for fucking rent. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 7:04:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jeffg: I would buy a used POS trailer and live in a Trailer Park before I paid some dipshit $1500 for fucking rent. You do realize that in a trailer park you’d be renting the dirt it sits on right? |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 7:08:26 PM EDT
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It's just your negative attitude bucko.
Pull yourself up by your boot starps. Those are the New Americans you're talking about. It's just little property crime and weed smell. Its parts and Parcells. Somebody has to pay into social security since all the gyat dayum zoomahs have the W2 mindset. Did I miss anything? |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 7:10:27 PM EDT
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Join the service, learn to weld / code. It’s a SHIT SAMMICH….
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Posted: 4/28/2024 7:12:18 PM EDT
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OP: consider toughing it out for a couple of more years where you are.
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Posted: 4/28/2024 7:14:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jeffg: I would buy a used POS trailer and live in a Trailer Park before I paid some dipshit $1500 for fucking rent. So you would pay $700 a month in rent for the lot? |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2024 7:14:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jeffg: Only an idiot rents a place to live. |
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Posted: 4/28/2024 7:14:48 PM EDT
[#50]
Last year I checked local (Colorado Springs) apartment rent prices and it was terrible. I don't know what they were pre-COVID hoax but they are bad now.
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