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Posted: 5/9/2024 12:29:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JET55: This is a fact. But even worse is the fact that even if the MSM ran another story refuting the original, it won’t make a difference. Once a libtard has heard something on the MSM it’s forever imprinted as being true on the brain cell that still functions. No matter what happens after, they can only cling to the first thing they heard. Yep. As it has been throughout the ages, they are great tools of tyranny. Many/most would be all-too-happy to be storm troopers and evict, imprison, torture, and murder for their evil masters. Look how many of them said that those who chose not to be experimental lab rats over the past few years should be put in camps, and many even said "I hope you die from covid". And despite their puppet masters admitting more and more that covid was overblown and created by our government, they still stubbornly refuse to acknowledge the fact that they were rubes. They are the very same as those who murdered for Pol Pot, Mao, Stalin, Hitler, etc. What is old is new again. They are the enemies of freedom, life, and self-determination and individuality. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 12:31:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMiller: It's rather amusing to see people who are claiming the government botched chain of custody and evidence documentation so badly that the case should be dismissed also getting upset about FBI agents taking photos to document evidence before removing it from Mar-a-Lago.  I'm curious how anybody can claim they are "random documents" when they are redacted. 
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Posted: 5/9/2024 12:33:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By unreformed66: You CAN'T be that fucking retarded so you must be a shill. Taking photos to document evidence? No, taking photos of random piles of paper that they put the "top secret" cover sheets that they brought with them on to create outrage and a propaganda coup for the left. You do realize that it's been proven that the FBI printed those cover sheets out themselves and brought them with them to Mar-a-Lago and attached them to random papers they say were in the boxes they confiscated, right? Better response than mine. But note he's discrediting himself. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 12:36:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dorobuta: Who did the redacting? And who verified it needed to be redacted? And also, which set of documents did they belong to, the ones Trump took, or the ones the Biden admin sent to him? And what is your source of truth for your reply. After all, with the right sharpie, I can redact anything, anywhere. With a scanner, I can make it look official Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dorobuta: Originally Posted By CMiller: It's rather amusing to see people who are claiming the government botched chain of custody and evidence documentation so badly that the case should be dismissed also getting upset about FBI agents taking photos to document evidence before removing it from Mar-a-Lago. I'm curious how anybody can claim they are "random documents" when they are redacted. Who did the redacting? And who verified it needed to be redacted? And also, which set of documents did they belong to, the ones Trump took, or the ones the Biden admin sent to him? And what is your source of truth for your reply. After all, with the right sharpie, I can redact anything, anywhere. With a scanner, I can make it look official 
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Posted: 5/9/2024 12:42:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JET55: This is a fact. But even worse is the fact that even if the MSM ran another story refuting the original, it won’t make a difference. Once a libtard has heard something on the MSM it’s forever imprinted as being true on the brain cell that still functions. No matter what happens after, they can only cling to the first thing they heard. The same thing happens all the time when it comes to officer involved shootings and uses of force. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 12:49:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikertrash: Are you having a stroke?? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikertrash: Originally Posted By Erick1744: The FBI, CIA and NSA worked with the Uni party globalist to ensure Donald Trump was not re-elected and will again. The first time was a fluck and they could not manufacturer enough fraudulent votes to offset Trumps pead. They learned there lesson and took advantage of covid with massive mail in voting fraud. Are you having a stroke?? Just on my phone typing fast. You have tons of time. I will send my posts to you for proof reading before hand. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 12:50:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By unreformed66: You CAN'T be that fucking retarded so you must be a shill. Taking photos to document evidence? No, taking photos of random piles of paper that they put the "top secret" cover sheets that they brought with them on to create outrage and a propaganda coup for the left. You do realize that it's been proven that the FBI printed those cover sheets out themselves and brought them with them to Mar-a-Lago and attached them to random papers they say were in the boxes they confiscated, right? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By unreformed66: Originally Posted By CMiller: It's rather amusing to see people who are claiming the government botched chain of custody and evidence documentation so badly that the case should be dismissed also getting upset about FBI agents taking photos to document evidence before removing it from Mar-a-Lago. I'm curious how anybody can claim they are "random documents" when they are redacted. You CAN'T be that fucking retarded so you must be a shill. Taking photos to document evidence? No, taking photos of random piles of paper that they put the "top secret" cover sheets that they brought with them on to create outrage and a propaganda coup for the left. You do realize that it's been proven that the FBI printed those cover sheets out themselves and brought them with them to Mar-a-Lago and attached them to random papers they say were in the boxes they confiscated, right? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/fbi-evidence-photo-standard-practice-trump-mar-a-lago-search-2022-9%3famp Bobby Chacon, a retired FBI agent, told Insider that the photo was indeed staged — but for a "legitimate purpose." "It's just a trail to be as thorough as you can in documenting where every item came from within a search," Chacon told Insider. "And a search of this geographic magnitude … when you're searching a resort area that's this large, you want to make sure you're very thorough and you document where everything was." Two federal law enforcement officials told The New York Times that the folders weren't discovered on the floor, but arranged like that by agents after they were removed from Trump's office. Most agents will take a photo of the finding in its original form, and then spread out, so individual findings can be traced back to their original location, according to Chacon. Chacon said agents typically take photos at the start of the search, when they recover any evidence during the search, and at the end of the search. The Department of Justice court filing notably only included one photos, but others of other parts of the search process may exist. You know how we know the FBI put those cover sheets in there? Because the government told us in a recent court filing:  Attached FileBut yeah, there's some really sneaky nefarious stuff happening in that picture! |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 12:57:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Paul: Decimate the FBI 100% of the agents go The agency is a clear and present danger to the citizens of the United States freedom. Fixed |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 12:57:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By unreformed66: You CAN'T be that fucking retarded so you must be a shill. Taking photos to document evidence? No, taking photos of random piles of paper that they put the "top secret" cover sheets that they brought with them on to create outrage and a propaganda coup for the left. You do realize that it's been proven that the FBI printed those cover sheets out themselves and brought them with them to Mar-a-Lago and attached them to random papers they say were in the boxes they confiscated, right? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By unreformed66: Originally Posted By CMiller: It's rather amusing to see people who are claiming the government botched chain of custody and evidence documentation so badly that the case should be dismissed also getting upset about FBI agents taking photos to document evidence before removing it from Mar-a-Lago. I'm curious how anybody can claim they are "random documents" when they are redacted. You CAN'T be that fucking retarded so you must be a shill. Taking photos to document evidence? No, taking photos of random piles of paper that they put the "top secret" cover sheets that they brought with them on to create outrage and a propaganda coup for the left. You do realize that it's been proven that the FBI printed those cover sheets out themselves and brought them with them to Mar-a-Lago and attached them to random papers they say were in the boxes they confiscated, right? 
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Posted: 5/9/2024 1:00:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Curdmugeon45: Half of GD as well. Which half are you? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Curdmugeon45: Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner: Originally Posted By JET55: Once a libtard has heard something on the MSM it’s forever imprinted as being true on the brain cell that still functions. No matter what happens after, they can only cling to the first thing they heard.  Yup, it's only the "libtards" who have this flaw in their character. Half of GD as well. Which half are you? It would seem that pointing out that both sides suffer this flaw would mean I am self aware enough to attempt to avoid it. What about you? @Curdmugeon45 |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 1:01:14 PM EDT
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This is nuts
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Posted: 5/9/2024 1:06:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/9/2024 1:07:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DonS: Better response than mine. But note he's discrediting himself. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DonS: Originally Posted By unreformed66: You CAN'T be that fucking retarded so you must be a shill. Taking photos to document evidence? No, taking photos of random piles of paper that they put the "top secret" cover sheets that they brought with them on to create outrage and a propaganda coup for the left. You do realize that it's been proven that the FBI printed those cover sheets out themselves and brought them with them to Mar-a-Lago and attached them to random papers they say were in the boxes they confiscated, right? Better response than mine. But note he's discrediting himself.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 1:10:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMiller: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/fbi-evidence-photo-standard-practice-trump-mar-a-lago-search-2022-9%3famp You know how we know the FBI put those cover sheets in there? Because the government told us in a recent court filing: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/585454/1000008374_jpg-3209593.JPG But yeah, there's some really sneaky nefarious stuff happening in that picture! Did you actually read what you posted. Your credibility is about as good as the FBI at this point. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 1:12:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By maxima2: They have all been lying about Trump since day one on damn near everything. Trump has been proven right time after time. Evil people are running the government these days. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 1:15:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By agriebel: What absolute BS. They will stop at nothing to cancel Trump. Time to cancel them. Bold words my friend, bold words. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 1:17:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMiller: You know how we know the FBI put those cover sheets in there? Because the government told us in a recent court filing: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/585454/1000008374_jpg-3209593.JPG But yeah, there's some really sneaky nefarious stuff happening in that picture! We only found out because the judge released the unredacted documents. They redacted it to hide it from us. Also the picture was used for months without this context being released. Although some of us suspected that this or similar was the case. It was an information op played out by the government against the American people, like so many others. That's why when pictures like that come out they don't convince us of anything. We realize the government is lying to take down Trump. That's baked into our assumptions now. Early 2017 with the Russia nonsense I was left wondering, but now at this point I just assume FIB and JustUs are lying. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 1:17:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMiller: It's rather amusing to see people who are claiming the government botched chain of custody and evidence documentation so badly that the case should be dismissed also getting upset about FBI agents taking photos to document evidence before removing it from Mar-a-Lago. I'm curious how anybody can claim they are "random documents" when they are redacted. Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrpppp |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 1:26:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DonS]
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We need to keep in mind the government isn't one monolithic thing. In this case the judge seems to be doing the right thing. It's different than the DC, Georgia and NY cases in that matter. Prosecutions were mostly launched in corrupt locations, which is why these cases are such clusterfucks. We would have never received these unredacted documents in the other cases controlled by corrupt judges.
Also, if you pay attention, it isn't just black and white but shades of gray. Mueller didn't just go all in and create fake evidence. He was clearly part of the plan to get Trump (hence why he ignored the dossier and why he went after those Russian entities), but there were limits to how far he went. Likewise Barr played both sides of the fence. Durham also: he released some good info, but in a way provided cover. There are those involved who are not happy with the corruption but who are not willing to pull off the scab. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 1:51:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMiller: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/fbi-evidence-photo-standard-practice-trump-mar-a-lago-search-2022-9%3famp You know how we know the FBI put those cover sheets in there? Because the government told us in a recent court filing: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/585454/1000008374_jpg-3209593.JPG But yeah, there's some really sneaky nefarious stuff happening in that picture! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMiller: Originally Posted By unreformed66: Originally Posted By CMiller: It's rather amusing to see people who are claiming the government botched chain of custody and evidence documentation so badly that the case should be dismissed also getting upset about FBI agents taking photos to document evidence before removing it from Mar-a-Lago. I'm curious how anybody can claim they are "random documents" when they are redacted. You CAN'T be that fucking retarded so you must be a shill. Taking photos to document evidence? No, taking photos of random piles of paper that they put the "top secret" cover sheets that they brought with them on to create outrage and a propaganda coup for the left. You do realize that it's been proven that the FBI printed those cover sheets out themselves and brought them with them to Mar-a-Lago and attached them to random papers they say were in the boxes they confiscated, right? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/fbi-evidence-photo-standard-practice-trump-mar-a-lago-search-2022-9%3famp Bobby Chacon, a retired FBI agent, told Insider that the photo was indeed staged but for a "legitimate purpose." "It's just a trail to be as thorough as you can in documenting where every item came from within a search," Chacon told Insider. "And a search of this geographic magnitude when you're searching a resort area that's this large, you want to make sure you're very thorough and you document where everything was." Two federal law enforcement officials told The New York Times that the folders weren't discovered on the floor, but arranged like that by agents after they were removed from Trump's office. Most agents will take a photo of the finding in its original form, and then spread out, so individual findings can be traced back to their original location, according to Chacon. Chacon said agents typically take photos at the start of the search, when they recover any evidence during the search, and at the end of the search. The Department of Justice court filing notably only included one photos, but others of other parts of the search process may exist. You know how we know the FBI put those cover sheets in there? Because the government told us in a recent court filing: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/585454/1000008374_jpg-3209593.JPG But yeah, there's some really sneaky nefarious stuff happening in that picture! |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 4:27:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 505stevec: Apparently, the office of professional responsibility, in the FBI no longer exists. The assholes involved in this rage should be terminated. Before or after firing them? |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 4:28:43 PM EDT
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Bobby Chacon, a retired FBI agent, told Insider that the photo was indeed staged but for a "legitimate purpose."
There is no legitimate purpose for staging photos of evidence at the scene of the crime. Unacceptable by any legal standard. "It's just a trail to be as thorough as you can in documenting where every item came from within a search," Chacon told Insider. "And a search of this geographic magnitude when you're searching a resort area that's this large, you want to make sure you're very thorough and you document where everything was." The search warrant specified several isolated rooms, not the entire resort. Two federal law enforcement officials told The New York Times that the folders weren't discovered on the floor, but arranged like that by agents after they were removed from Trump's office. The image was presented as if the folders were found that way. Fake evidence is unacceptable in any court of law. Most agents will take a photo of the finding in its original form, and then spread out, so individual findings can be traced back to their original location, according to Chacon. That makes no sense whatsoever. And it doesn't sound like SOP for a search warrant. It would be more believable if the agents had seized the boxes and taken them, in original form, back to the lab for proper cataloging. Chacon said agents typically take photos at the start of the search, when they recover any evidence during the search, and at the end of the search. The Department of Justice court filing notably only included one photos, but others of other parts of the search process may exist. One photo? One? Could that be because other photos didn't further the agenda? We know lots of other photos were taken. Where are they and why were they not included in the DOJ filing? It is ludicrous that only one photo was included. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 4:31:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Paul: Decimate the FBI every year for the next five years. 10% of the agents go each year and I don't care how you pick them. After five years re-evaluate and see if they have any will to be political hatchet men and repeat if needed. The agency is a clear and present danger to the citizens of the United States freedom. Why not just start with 50% and not need a new HQ? |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 5:09:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DonS: We only found out because the judge released the unredacted documents. They redacted it to hide it from us. Also the picture was used for months without this context being released. Although some of us suspected that this or similar was the case. It was an information op played out by the government against the American people, like so many others. That's why when pictures like that come out they don't convince us of anything. We realize the government is lying to take down Trump. That's baked into our assumptions now. Early 2017 with the Russia nonsense I was left wondering, but now at this point I just assume FIB and JustUs are lying. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DonS: Originally Posted By CMiller: You know how we know the FBI put those cover sheets in there? Because the government told us in a recent court filing: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/585454/1000008374_jpg-3209593.JPG But yeah, there's some really sneaky nefarious stuff happening in that picture! We only found out because the judge released the unredacted documents. They redacted it to hide it from us. Also the picture was used for months without this context being released. Although some of us suspected that this or similar was the case. It was an information op played out by the government against the American people, like so many others. That's why when pictures like that come out they don't convince us of anything. We realize the government is lying to take down Trump. That's baked into our assumptions now. Early 2017 with the Russia nonsense I was left wondering, but now at this point I just assume FIB and JustUs are lying. No, no, no.... The government told us in a recent court filing. The benevolent, honest and forthright government. How can you doubt them? Mr. Miller has explained this to you. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 6:02:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Cycolac]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dsteelman: I’m moderately shocked that trump is still alive for one , and that he hasn’t just been arrested by the feds and put in prison for treason with no bail, no hearings . You wanna start a Catalina Wine Mixer, that's how you start a Catalina Wine Mixer. I'm surprised someone hasn't 
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Posted: 5/9/2024 6:07:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMiller: It's rather amusing to see people who are claiming the government botched chain of custody and evidence documentation so badly that the case should be dismissed also getting upset about FBI agents taking photos to document evidence before removing it from Mar-a-Lago. I'm curious how anybody can claim they are "random documents" when they are redacted. Trolling = boring You aren't even amusing anymore. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 6:14:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMiller: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/fbi-evidence-photo-standard-practice-trump-mar-a-lago-search-2022-9%3famp You know how we know the FBI put those cover sheets in there? Because the government told us in a recent court filing: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/585454/1000008374_jpg-3209593.JPG But yeah, there's some really sneaky nefarious stuff happening in that picture! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMiller: Originally Posted By unreformed66: Originally Posted By CMiller: It's rather amusing to see people who are claiming the government botched chain of custody and evidence documentation so badly that the case should be dismissed also getting upset about FBI agents taking photos to document evidence before removing it from Mar-a-Lago. I'm curious how anybody can claim they are "random documents" when they are redacted. You CAN'T be that fucking retarded so you must be a shill. Taking photos to document evidence? No, taking photos of random piles of paper that they put the "top secret" cover sheets that they brought with them on to create outrage and a propaganda coup for the left. You do realize that it's been proven that the FBI printed those cover sheets out themselves and brought them with them to Mar-a-Lago and attached them to random papers they say were in the boxes they confiscated, right? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/fbi-evidence-photo-standard-practice-trump-mar-a-lago-search-2022-9%3famp Bobby Chacon, a retired FBI agent, told Insider that the photo was indeed staged — but for a "legitimate purpose." "It's just a trail to be as thorough as you can in documenting where every item came from within a search," Chacon told Insider. "And a search of this geographic magnitude … when you're searching a resort area that's this large, you want to make sure you're very thorough and you document where everything was." Two federal law enforcement officials told The New York Times that the folders weren't discovered on the floor, but arranged like that by agents after they were removed from Trump's office. Most agents will take a photo of the finding in its original form, and then spread out, so individual findings can be traced back to their original location, according to Chacon. Chacon said agents typically take photos at the start of the search, when they recover any evidence during the search, and at the end of the search. The Department of Justice court filing notably only included one photos, but others of other parts of the search process may exist. You know how we know the FBI put those cover sheets in there? Because the government told us in a recent court filing: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/585454/1000008374_jpg-3209593.JPG But yeah, there's some really sneaky nefarious stuff happening in that picture! Filter teams. You mean plant teams. I wonder how much kiddie porn they'll find on his computer?
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Posted: 5/9/2024 6:17:57 PM EDT
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I used to work for the FBI and I no longer trust them.
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Posted: 5/9/2024 7:02:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MADMAXXX: Yet the damage has already been done. The liberal idiots still believe President Trump had Top Secret documents and they will never hear the truth because the treasonist MSM where they get their "facts" will never show this to them. Those responsible for this should be swinging from lampposts.  And a bunch of never trumpers hear convinced he committed treason. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 7:07:51 PM EDT
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I was just shocked that someone would have so many incorrect cover sheets.
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Posted: 5/9/2024 7:12:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cycolac: You wanna start a Catalina Wine Mixer, that's how you start a Catalina Wine Mixer. I'm surprised someone hasn't Truth |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 7:16:15 PM EDT
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The two most annoying groups of persons in my world:
China Flu vaxxers People who defer to a corrupt administration's indictments against our last president What a shit-show |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 7:16:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hugh1: I think they are afraid that might kick off some sort of reaction that they might not be able to control. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hugh1: Originally Posted By dsteelman: Originally Posted By Anonymoose1: As always, not shit is going to happen. Our government is corrupt as it gets and does whatever the hell they want to do. They will continue to do so until they are reeled in by the people, which isn’t going to happen, so we all should just get used to these Stasi type tactics. I’m moderately shocked that trump is still alive for one , and that he hasn’t just been arrested by the feds and put in prison for treason with no bail, no hearings . I think they are afraid that might kick off some sort of reaction that they might not be able to control. I really think J6 spooked them, that’s why they are going after those people so hard. Try and make an example to make people be afraid and less likely to protest thus being easier to control. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 7:17:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kingdead: Politics = garbage Trolling = boring You aren't even amusing anymore. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kingdead: Originally Posted By CMiller: It's rather amusing to see people who are claiming the government botched chain of custody and evidence documentation so badly that the case should be dismissed also getting upset about FBI agents taking photos to document evidence before removing it from Mar-a-Lago. I'm curious how anybody can claim they are "random documents" when they are redacted. Trolling = boring You aren't even amusing anymore. It's not surprising that government agents like this have this mentality. One only needs to look at the multitude of video evidence out there of LEO & unelected bureaucrats to see the disdain of the .gov to some asshole with a camera on the streets. It's rotten from the bottom to the top. Trump or you or I are not immune to persecution. I still support those LEO that work within the confines of the Constitution. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 7:29:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By constitutionlvr: I really think J6 spooked them, that’s why they are going after those people so hard. Try and make an example to make people be afraid and less likely to protest thus being easier to control. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By constitutionlvr: Originally Posted By hugh1: Originally Posted By dsteelman: Originally Posted By Anonymoose1: As always, not shit is going to happen. Our government is corrupt as it gets and does whatever the hell they want to do. They will continue to do so until they are reeled in by the people, which isn’t going to happen, so we all should just get used to these Stasi type tactics. I’m moderately shocked that trump is still alive for one , and that he hasn’t just been arrested by the feds and put in prison for treason with no bail, no hearings . I think they are afraid that might kick off some sort of reaction that they might not be able to control. I really think J6 spooked them, that’s why they are going after those people so hard. Try and make an example to make people be afraid and less likely to protest thus being easier to control. I think the message most people got from J6 is show up armed next time and go all the way |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 7:33:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CMiller]
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Originally Posted By JCoop: Bobby Chacon, a retired FBI agent, told Insider that the photo was indeed staged but for a "legitimate purpose." There is no legitimate purpose for staging photos of evidence at the scene of the crime. Unacceptable by any legal standard. "It's just a trail to be as thorough as you can in documenting where every item came from within a search," Chacon told Insider. "And a search of this geographic magnitude when you're searching a resort area that's this large, you want to make sure you're very thorough and you document where everything was." The search warrant specified several isolated rooms, not the entire resort. Two federal law enforcement officials told The New York Times that the folders weren't discovered on the floor, but arranged like that by agents after they were removed from Trump's office. The image was presented as if the folders were found that way. Fake evidence is unacceptable in any court of law. Most agents will take a photo of the finding in its original form, and then spread out, so individual findings can be traced back to their original location, according to Chacon. That makes no sense whatsoever. And it doesn't sound like SOP for a search warrant. It would be more believable if the agents had seized the boxes and taken them, in original form, back to the lab for proper cataloging. Chacon said agents typically take photos at the start of the search, when they recover any evidence during the search, and at the end of the search. The Department of Justice court filing notably only included one photos, but others of other parts of the search process may exist. One photo? One? Could that be because other photos didn't further the agenda? We know lots of other photos were taken. Where are they and why were they not included in the DOJ filing? It is ludicrous that only one photo was included. I will care what you have to say when you at least claim (I wouldn't dare demand verification) that you worked for the DOJ/FBI, or even anywhere in law enforcement/the justice system. Originally Posted By ExFed1811: I used to work for the FBI and I no longer trust them. . @ExFed1811 I'd love to hear your thoughts about the post above yours here. ETA: not on the question of trust, just procedure. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 7:37:36 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMiller: I will care what you have to say when you at least claim (I wouldn't dare demand verification) that you worked for the DOJ/FBI, or even anywhere in law enforcement/the justice system. @ExFed1811 I'd love to hear your thoughts about the post above yours here. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMiller: Originally Posted By JCoop: Bobby Chacon, a retired FBI agent, told Insider that the photo was indeed staged but for a "legitimate purpose." There is no legitimate purpose for staging photos of evidence at the scene of the crime. Unacceptable by any legal standard. "It's just a trail to be as thorough as you can in documenting where every item came from within a search," Chacon told Insider. "And a search of this geographic magnitude when you're searching a resort area that's this large, you want to make sure you're very thorough and you document where everything was." The search warrant specified several isolated rooms, not the entire resort. Two federal law enforcement officials told The New York Times that the folders weren't discovered on the floor, but arranged like that by agents after they were removed from Trump's office. The image was presented as if the folders were found that way. Fake evidence is unacceptable in any court of law. Most agents will take a photo of the finding in its original form, and then spread out, so individual findings can be traced back to their original location, according to Chacon. That makes no sense whatsoever. And it doesn't sound like SOP for a search warrant. It would be more believable if the agents had seized the boxes and taken them, in original form, back to the lab for proper cataloging. Chacon said agents typically take photos at the start of the search, when they recover any evidence during the search, and at the end of the search. The Department of Justice court filing notably only included one photos, but others of other parts of the search process may exist. One photo? One? Could that be because other photos didn't further the agenda? We know lots of other photos were taken. Where are they and why were they not included in the DOJ filing? It is ludicrous that only one photo was included. I will care what you have to say when you at least claim (I wouldn't dare demand verification) that you worked for the DOJ/FBI, or even anywhere in law enforcement/the justice system. Originally Posted By ExFed1811: I used to work for the FBI and I no longer trust them. . @ExFed1811 I'd love to hear your thoughts about the post above yours here. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 5/9/2024 7:38:31 PM EDT
[#38]
This stuff cant stand and America be taken seriously in the world.
Leader of the free world plating like a 3rd world tin pot banana republic. Chinese are laughing their asses off . |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 7:42:57 PM EDT
[#39]
Didn't pay detailed attention the first time around, but the paperclips are super sketchy.
Any doc I handled (very very few!) with SECRET or TOP SECRET coversheets had them STAPLED, not paper-clipped to the docs. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 7:44:36 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Seadra_tha_Guineapig: I think the message most people got from J6 is show up armed next time and go all the way This , symbolic protests mean nothing . |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 5/9/2024 7:50:25 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheOtherDave: It’s actually worse than just that pic. The White House colluded with FBI and NARA on the raid and set him up. They had NARA call Trump up and said: “we’ve got these boxes of your documents from your term here, you gotta get them out of here” and then they sent them to Mar A Lago. These papers in the photo were from that batch of documents. It was a total setup. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 8:10:10 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CMiller: I will care what you have to say when you at least claim (I wouldn't dare demand verification) that you worked for the DOJ/FBI, or even anywhere in law enforcement/the justice system. You are defending the alteration of evidence. I expect this is situation dependent, and in other situations you would find it outrageous. |
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MT, USA
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Posted: 5/9/2024 8:38:44 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By constitutionlvr: I really think J6 spooked them, that’s why they are going after those people so hard. Try and make an example to make people be afraid and less likely to protest thus being easier to control. That works with most people but not all. |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 8:45:46 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DonS: You are defending the alteration of evidence. I expect this is situation dependent, and in other situations you would find it outrageous. Like if they did it to Biden when he wanted to return all the STOLEN docs he had ? That most likely was to get out in front of the plot to frame Trump . |
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MT, USA
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Posted: 5/9/2024 8:46:45 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Morlawn66: They interviewed actual FBI agents in that movie IN REAL LIFE , which you obviously haven't watched . What was this reply meant to accomplish ?, hell I was agreeing with you . Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Morlawn66: Originally Posted By hugh1: This is not a move! It's real life and if you can't handle it get out. They interviewed actual FBI agents in that movie IN REAL LIFE , which you obviously haven't watched . What was this reply meant to accomplish ?, hell I was agreeing with you . I was not referring to you but to the FBI and after going back and reading it, it looks clear as mud. sorry for that. |
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NJ, USA
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Posted: 5/9/2024 8:48:10 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UtahShotgunner: No, no, no.... The government told us in a recent court filing. The benevolent, honest and forthright government. How can you doubt them? Mr. Miller has explained this to you. He obviously hasn't read the indictment |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 8:56:06 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wildearp: Yes, and that doesn't mean fired.  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wildearp: Originally Posted By 505stevec: Apparently, the office of professional responsibility, in the FBI no longer exists. The assholes involved in this rage should be terminated. In Minecraft? |
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Posted: 5/9/2024 8:58:30 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hugh1: I was not referring to you but to the FBI and after going back and reading it, it looks clear as mud. sorry for that. We're good  .
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Posted: 5/9/2024 8:59:41 PM EDT
[#49]
Yet ya'll keep voting and seving the military hoping for change.....lol.
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Posted: 5/9/2024 9:01:33 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By agriebel: What absolute BS. They will stop at nothing to cancel Trump. Time to cancel them. 
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