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USAC era. Foyt, the Unser brothers, Dallenbach etc. Guys would build a car in their garage and bring it to Indy. '60s into the early '70s. Before that too of course, but I was too young to follow it
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Originally Posted By osprey21: https://robbreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/02-indy-500-belond-exhaust-special-1957-sam-hanks.jpg View Quote (Jimmy drove it to its second win) George Salih and my friend, Howard Gilbert, built that car in the garage beside Salih's house in Whittier, Ca. NO sponsorship and the first "lay down" Offy engine. "Belond" owned muffler shops around L.A. and only gave them enough money to tow to Indy. Then they won Indy, but after they paid everyone they owed they only had enough money to tow back home. Then they returned and won it again. Made serious bank the second time. |
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The '70s era cars are my favorite. I lived about a 10-15 min walk to the 4th turn of the track. The whole month of May was awesome to a teen living so close to the track.
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I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me and say "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals.
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Originally Posted By Janus: Yep. Lola vs Reynard vs Penske vs Swift Honda vs Toyota vs Ford vs Mercedes F1 level talent driving cars that were unchained beasts around all disciplines of circuits. It was one of the best eras in all of racing. View Quote That was a good era. These days they are F2 at best. I guess my biggest gripe is it became a spec series and that belittles what Indy was all about. Building a fast car and bringing it to race 500 miles. Now it is buy a fast car like everyone else has and getting a box motor from one of two makers and just tweaking the setup. Zero innovation. F1 sets the rules and leaves it to the constructors to develop the fastest car within those rules with multiple engine combinations. The cars are never identical, not even the cars on the same team. Pair a great driver and car, you get Verstappen now and Lewis 8 years ago. Verstappen will be dethroned. It may be this season. Ferrari and McLaren are beating RB during races but not in qualifying. |
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Late 80s the party the night before the race was epic. The street coming down to turn one would be wall to wall with people. Campers backed up to the road with wild parties on the roof. Jesus freaks would ride in back of trucks inside of cages condemning everyone to hell while having beers thrown at them. Most houses would rent parking spots for the race but I remember one house who fenced off the yard to keep the crowds away. Thousands of beer cans got thrown in the yard.
The track used to open the gates at 5am and everyone would try to drive in first with some junk cars being set on fire inside the track. |
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What does everyone think about the mid-season hybrid introduction?
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My favorite era is everything before the pit lane speed limit. Sure, I understand the need for it. The halo cars just look ugly. Foyt getting out and beating on the car with a hammer, Jim Mckay commentating. I miss Jackie Stewart's input. Not a big Sam Posey fan, however.
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Originally Posted By Tweek218: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR6EAaxhLcc View Quote I was in turn 1 when Tom Sneva broke the 200 mph barrier in ‘77. Ah, the good old days. |
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Originally Posted By skyflyer: Late 80s the party the night before the race was epic. The street coming down to turn one would be wall to wall with people. Campers backed up to the road with wild parties on the roof. Jesus freaks would ride in back of trucks inside of cages condemning everyone to hell while having beers thrown at them. Most houses would rent parking spots for the race but I remember one house who fenced off the yard to keep the crowds away. Thousands of beer cans got thrown in the yard. The track used to open the gates at 5am and everyone would try to drive in first with some junk cars being set on fire inside the track. View Quote Georgetown Road and the Coke Field (there is a Coca-Cola bottling plant there). I remember in 1972 listening to the bullhorns and seeing the glow from searchlights illuminating the street with police helicopters orbiting. The next day, the news showed the street was covered in broken glass from bottles thrown at the police. Keep in mind, it was 72 and riots were in vogue. |
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In America, the village idiots have organized.
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Originally Posted By twistedLV: I think the current era is really good. More fun to watch than F1 most of the time. View Quote Curious about OP’s question too, as I’ve been watching more Indy races. But is IndyCar racing more interesting than current NASCAR racing? I’ve soured in the last 10-yrs on how NASCAR has been watered down by a sort of bland wokeness. Not filled with the personalities and the track drama like it had in the late ‘70s and ‘80s. |
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Beginning around '65 when Jimmy Clark won in a mid engine Lotus. The end of the front engine cars era of dominance.
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Embracing the "Progressive" American democratic party is akin to volunteering your time to erect the gallows you will one day swing from. |
Mid 1960s.
Same for drag racing and Nascar too. |
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Originally Posted By doc540: built it, drove it, won with it https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/183309/Foyt_build1-3212754.jpg That's Mr. A. J. Foyt, Sr. the toughest of the two of them. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/183309/foyt_dad_indy1-3212756.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By doc540: Originally Posted By firedog51d: USAC era. Foyt, the Unser brothers, Dallenbach etc. Guys would build a car in their garage and bring it to Indy. '60s into the early '70s. Before that too of course, but I was too young to follow it built it, drove it, won with it https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/183309/Foyt_build1-3212754.jpg That's Mr. A. J. Foyt, Sr. the toughest of the two of them. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/183309/foyt_dad_indy1-3212756.jpg Daytona 500 24 hours of Lemans 24 Hours of Daytona 12 Hours of Sebring. He won them all and set the fastest closed course speed record. |
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In memory of my son Sean James, born 6/25/97. Died 9/16/13.
We will be reunited in heaven. |
I'm a bit nostalgic for the 90s stuff, more variety in chassis and engine (and the era of my childhood). Today it is Dallara and your choice of Chevy or Honda. Nostalgia is a hell of a drug though. At the speeds they run at today no one is going to be hammering a car together in their garage at home.
I was hardcore into sim racing for a few years, driving the IR18 isn't easy in iRacing. I have participated in many Indy 500 qualifying challenges, holy shit is that hard. I much prefer Indycar to F1, I don't like seeing the same guys win every race. I also like the variety of circuits. Besides Monaco and Spa, every F1 circuit is more less a Tilke-drome and is pretty boring to watch and drive, I have driven most of them in the sim. In Indycar, you have to run ovals, street circuits, and permanent circuits. So happy they brought Milwaukee back this year too. |
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"People, ideas, and hardware...in that order!" Col John Boyd
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1989-1995ish
Before the suicidal divorce from CART |
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in the early 90's ABC Indy 500 broadcast used Chuck Norris Delta Force theme song.
Sounds fucking bad ass 1992 Indianapolis 500 |
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I was a huge Chip Ganassi Racing fan.
Jimmy Vasser & Alex Zanardi |
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Originally Posted By Tim_AZ: The Delta Force theme will always mean its time to go racing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htqu5Au8Kvk View Quote For me, the delta force theme and Indy 500 always meant summer vacation was near. |
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Originally Posted By igozumn: My favorite era is everything before the pit lane speed limit. Sure, I understand the need for it. The halo cars just look ugly. Foyt getting out and beating on the car with a hammer, Jim Mckay commentating. I miss Jackie Stewart's input. Not a big Sam Posey fan, however. View Quote The races that Jackie Stewart commented on when Emerson Fittipaldi was racing always made it sound like Fittipaldi was about to win. "Fittipaldi just made a brilliant pass, look at Fittipaldi go!", when he moved from 23rd to 22nd place. They were more than former teammates, they had a bit of a bromance going from the sound of it. |
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https://www.autoweek.com/racing/indycar/a1844986/31-jim-hurtubise-fails-qualify-indy-500-treats-everyone-beer-instead/
You can thank Jim Hurtubise for car inspections. When you get to the front of the qual line and pop the hood to reveal a cooler full of beer instead of an engine, officials decided hey maybe we should start inspecting the cars. How anyone watches an Indycar race and would rather watch F1 blows my mind. Watch 100 days to indy, last years season is on Netflix right now and this years season just began on CW. The Indianapolis 500 is THE GREATEST SPECTACLE, not only in racing but in sports. When people say it’s the Super Bowl of auto racing I shake my head. The bowl has nothing on the 500. |
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I loved the Aurora V8s. Back then I was in college and had a buddy with season tickets for PIR.
Still remember walking up to the track during qualifying, just hearing one car at a time as I got closer. |
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Originally Posted By Nick_Adams: Curious about OP’s question too, as I’ve been watching more Indy races. But is IndyCar racing more interesting than current NASCAR racing? I’ve soured in the last 10-yrs on how NASCAR has been watered down by a sort of bland wokeness. Not filled with the personalities and the track drama like it had in the late ‘70s and ‘80s. View Quote My personal opinion is IndyCar is much better than NASCAR yes. I switched from being a lifetime NASCAR fan to an IndyCar fan in the last few years. All the gimmicks put on by NASCAR ruined the sport for me. Feels like WWF wrestling now. Competition caution and stage breaks? IndyCar seems to be holding off on the woke garbage aside from a few things like the DHL sponsored gay pride car and some gay pride flags at some of the races I’ve noticed. I hope they can hold out. And for anyone that didn’t see, I made a thread for discussion of this year‘s race. Last year‘s bump day and race were unbelievable. https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Official-2024-Indianapolis-500-Presented-by-Gainbridge-Thread/5-2724747/ |
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The CART years. IRL was trash.
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Short lived but Buick Motorsports turbo V6.
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Originally Posted By Mojo_Jojo: https://www.speedsport.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/44/2020/05/imsc5118.jpg View Quote |
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My Dad: with respect to your chosen profession son, do what you want to do, who you want to do it for and where you want to do it.
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View Quote As a kid I had the tonka aj foyt race set. A cube van, race car, trailer & action figures |
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"People, ideas, and hardware...in that order!" Col John Boyd
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'70s.
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Alea iacta est
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The 60's through the 80's.
Lots of innovation. You could build a car in your shop, buy a rebuilt Offy or Cosworth, and try and qualify. The boost levels they ran in those Offys were insane! It's a great little engine, compact and strong. You'll never blow a head gasket on one of those. |
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Originally Posted By skyflyer: Late 80s the party the night before the race was epic. The street coming down to turn one would be wall to wall with people. Campers backed up to the road with wild parties on the roof. Jesus freaks would ride in back of trucks inside of cages condemning everyone to hell while having beers thrown at them. Most houses would rent parking spots for the race but I remember one house who fenced off the yard to keep the crowds away. Thousands of beer cans got thrown in the yard. The track used to open the gates at 5am and everyone would try to drive in first with some junk cars being set on fire inside the track. View Quote I loved the Friday and Saturday night before the race. It was a huge non stop party. The street we lived on dead ended onto 30th St and the huge field that Tony Hulman owned that had the Coke bottling plant at one end. Everyone called it The Coke Field. Cruising around Georgetown Rd, 30th St, 16th St and some of the other major roads around there was a hoot. I loved it in the '70s |
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I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me and say "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals.
Sic semper evello mortem tyrannis |
Whites tend not to riot. They mostly have three speeds:
Uninvolved, Peaceful but passionate protesting, or Genocide |
Indycar 2024 Sonsio Grand Prix: The Comedy Review These race reviews are pretty humorous. |
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Originally Posted By anesvick: This, CART was awesome. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By anesvick: Originally Posted By Plumber576: My Favorite IndyCar era was CART after the split. I completely agree. I miss CART. Paul Tracy and the Kool car |
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CART forever and ever amen.
Today’s 500 is still fun but it’s not the same as it used to be. We’ll be there in 1A. Does anyone happen to know where to get old bodywork? I’ve always wanted a big piece of an Indycar for my office. But I can’t ever seem to find any. |
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Originally Posted By AR-Aggie: CART forever and ever amen. Today’s 500 is still fun but it’s not the same as it used to be. We’ll be there in 1A. Does anyone happen to know where to get old bodywork? I’ve always wanted a big piece of an Indycar for my office. But I can’t ever seem to find any. View Quote several active Indy memorabilia sites on Facebook several of Sneva's body pieces from his '75 crash were just listed yesterday |
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"People, ideas, and hardware...in that order!" Col John Boyd
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Originally Posted By Cobalt-60: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzTv4iFAPwM These race reviews are pretty humorous. View Quote OP if you are interested in learning more about the drivers and the series there are a few YouTube channels I’ve found to be helpful. David Land Off Track with Hinch and Rossi The RACER Channel Conor Daly |
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Originally Posted By Tweek218: OP if you are interested in learning more about the drivers and the series there are a few YouTube channels I’ve found to be helpful. David Land Off Track with Hinch and Rossi The RACER Channel Conor Daly View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Tweek218: Originally Posted By Cobalt-60: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzTv4iFAPwM These race reviews are pretty humorous. OP if you are interested in learning more about the drivers and the series there are a few YouTube channels I’ve found to be helpful. David Land Off Track with Hinch and Rossi The RACER Channel Conor Daly Aye, thanks for that! I will check them all out. |
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I remember in '81 or '82, Roger Reager had a stock block Chevy engine that came out of a school bus.
He broke on the last lap, and Rick Mears gave him a ride back to the pits. He didn't win, but he qualified, and almost finished the race. That's the stuff that little kids' dreams are made of. |
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I found this pic on the facebook (a pic I took, not a google one) while looking to see if I had one of the 912 in the background. I had a slot-car of this as a kid. Seeing this in-person and doing a little track-prep work on it was one of the highlights of my existence.
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They want you disarmed, because they know they are guilty of things for which they should be shot.
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