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Posted: 5/14/2024 6:16:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Actiondiver]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lawmonkey: 100% right. It's hard for me to understand how anyone could hit 40 years old and still be a libtard. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lawmonkey: Originally Posted By Grendelsbane: When a high trust social experiment gets run over by a low trust society… 100% right. It's hard for me to understand how anyone could hit 40 years old and still be a libtard. According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor & Statistics the average American woman will be a barren 40 year old by the year 2030. American women are also the largest voting demographic in the USA. Point is, your average 40 year old is a leftists now. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 6:24:29 AM EDT
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Those charging stations are not free, are they?
What does it cost to charge your car and how long does it take? Are all EVs makes and charging stations interchangeable? |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 6:40:28 AM EDT
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First Houston now San Francisco lol. Who's next....Denver, Chicago or Baltimore
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Posted: 5/14/2024 6:42:48 AM EDT
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There are billions in property crimes annually ... why the unique fascination and reporting on the theft of charing cables?
 Smells like propaganda. Tastes like propaganda. Sounds like propaganda. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 7:21:15 AM EDT
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"piles"?
What the actual fuck? |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 7:22:41 AM EDT
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I predicted this…
Probably why those cables are so short to begin with. It’s already a more expensive to public charge than buy gasoline in most places, this will only make it worse. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 7:54:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Azygos]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RV-1: Those charging stations are not free, are they? What does it cost to charge your car and how long does it take? Are all EVs makes and charging stations interchangeable? They charge varying amounts depending on location and time of day. 30-60 cents/kWh. Superchargers don’t really save money compared with gasoline. My home charge overnight put in 21kWh to go from about 50% charge to 80%, at roughly 12 cents/kWh. There are a few different charging plug standards out there, and not all makes are natively compatible. There are charging adapters available. Tesla’s network has generally been the most robust, and they’re opening the network to non-Tesla EVs. Starting with model year 2025, most new EVs will have adopted the Tesla-style plug for charging. For the anti-EV crowd: I still have a V8 pickup. This isn’t a car for virtue signaling. It’s a convenient, fast, good little commuter car. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 7:59:58 AM EDT
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You are all assuming the person cutting the cables are taking the cables.
It could be vandalism, or it could be theft. Plenty of people in this thread are OK with the vandalism aspect. And there are plenty of reasons why, but we'll save that for the countless other EV threads. And as far as the scrap yard taking it... What person in their right mind scraps copper cables with the plugs on the end? You get a lot more $$$ if you strip the insulation and ends. The scrap yard has no way to identify the origin when you get that far into it. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 8:00:31 AM EDT
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In Vallejo, it’s definitely bums selling it for scrap.
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Posted: 5/14/2024 8:01:28 AM EDT
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ARe EV stations in diverse neighborhoods? or are they racist like Mayor Pete's roads.
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Posted: 5/14/2024 8:02:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By A_G: You can bet on that, and you can also bet all the principled, capitalist conservatives here will shout down anyone who is critical of the scrap yards because they have to virtue signal about how its muh capitalism. Of course, their virtue signaling will be non existent when their catalytic convertor gets stolen and sold to the same type of criminal scrap yard. Then it'll be different because it effects them personally. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By A_G: Originally Posted By kc-coyote: And I bet the unscrupulous metal recycler will accept it, no questions asked. You can bet on that, and you can also bet all the principled, capitalist conservatives here will shout down anyone who is critical of the scrap yards because they have to virtue signal about how its muh capitalism. Of course, their virtue signaling will be non existent when their catalytic convertor gets stolen and sold to the same type of criminal scrap yard. Then it'll be different because it effects them personally. We don’t live in places where people steal catalytic converters… |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 8:08:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Kingdead]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Reaper: You are all assuming the person cutting the cables are taking the cables. It could be vandalism, or it could be theft. Plenty of people in this thread are OK with the vandalism aspect. And there are plenty of reasons why, but we'll save that for the countless other EV threads. And as far as the scrap yard taking it... What person in their right mind scraps copper cables with the plugs on the end? You get a lot more $$$ if you strip the insulation and ends. The scrap yard has no way to identify the origin when you get that far into it. |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 8:32:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Reaper: You are all assuming the person cutting the cables are taking the cables. It could be vandalism, or it could be theft. Plenty of people in this thread are OK with the vandalism aspect. And there are plenty of reasons why, but we'll save that for the countless other EV threads. And as far as the scrap yard taking it... What person in their right mind scraps copper cables with the plugs on the end? You get a lot more $$$ if you strip the insulation and ends. The scrap yard has no way to identify the origin when you get that far into it. No shit. Why would they stand there and strip it in open view? Of course they take it somewhere and clean it |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 8:37:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kingdead: If they can cut the cable they can cut the plugs off. They can chop it up. I didn't see anyone cheering on vandalism, I think they are rightly pointing out this is theft and it was an obvious conclusion of leaving large amounts of copper out in the public. I have no desire to steal copper in any form even if left out in public. I was raised better. Don't steal or vandalize and anyone caught should be severely punished. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 8:40:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack-of-Hearts: I'm not into EVs either right now but I'm not opposed to other people having them. Why would someone cut the cables?  scrap the copper so they can buy meth |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 8:41:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanPeople: I have no desire to steal copper in any form even if left out in public. I was raised better. Don't steal or vandalize and anyone caught should be severely punished. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 8:43:08 AM EDT
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I am surprised they have not redesigned these chargers to keep the cable inside of a cabinet and not just hanging out in the wind this isn't a new problem.
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Posted: 5/14/2024 9:00:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheWhiteHorse: We don’t live in places where people steal catalytic converters… Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheWhiteHorse: Originally Posted By A_G: Originally Posted By kc-coyote: And I bet the unscrupulous metal recycler will accept it, no questions asked. You can bet on that, and you can also bet all the principled, capitalist conservatives here will shout down anyone who is critical of the scrap yards because they have to virtue signal about how its muh capitalism. Of course, their virtue signaling will be non existent when their catalytic convertor gets stolen and sold to the same type of criminal scrap yard. Then it'll be different because it effects them personally. We don’t live in places where people steal catalytic converters… Well good for you. So what else you're saying is, is that scrap yards buying trunk loads of catalytic converters from suspicious people is perfectly acceptable and should be cheered on, because it's muh capitalism? Because you don't live where people steal them. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 9:07:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ZuoZongtang: They'll blame it on some MAGA bastards. Of course. Those Maga assholes get much enjoyment out of leaving them stranded . Its like a national pastime at this point . Bonus being plenty of copper for the construction of faraday cages . Win/win . |
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NM, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 9:08:46 AM EDT
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Copper closed at $4.80 yesterday. Copper was approximately $1 less per pound 2 months ago. Copper thievery has become very lucrative, again.
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ND, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 9:49:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FrozenWinter: scrap the copper so they can buy meth It would be cheaper if meth was legal and given out for free. Same with fentanyl. So what if they die. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 10:23:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shadyman: It would be cheaper if meth was legal and given out for free. Same with fentanyl. So what if they die. It seems a little sexist and exclusionist if that viewpoint on personal freedom is only valid for women in general, and their reproductive bits in particular. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 10:52:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Beretta_Jerry: Copper Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Beretta_Jerry: Originally Posted By Jack-of-Hearts: I'm not into EVs either right now but I'm not opposed to other people having them. Why would someone cut the cables? Copper  That's A Bingo! |
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WV, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 11:06:38 AM EDT
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How much $$ would a thief get per cable? Ten bucks?
ANy idea what it would cost to repace each cable? Several hundred I would think. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 11:19:46 AM EDT
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Goldarnit!!! Ya cain't have nuthin'!!!
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Posted: 5/14/2024 11:21:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack-of-Hearts: I'm not into EVs either right now but I'm not opposed to other people having them. Why would someone cut the cables? I am. To me, EVs are like "smart" guns. The gov is pushing us toward them and I partially blame everyone who buys one. The gov won't stop until we have our 15 minute cities. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 11:34:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By A_G: You can bet on that, and you can also bet all the principled, capitalist conservatives here will shout down anyone who is critical of the scrap yards because they have to virtue signal about how its muh capitalism. Of course, their virtue signaling will be non existent when their catalytic convertor gets stolen and sold to the same type of criminal scrap yard. Then it'll be different because it effects them personally. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By A_G: Originally Posted By kc-coyote: And I bet the unscrupulous metal recycler will accept it, no questions asked. You can bet on that, and you can also bet all the principled, capitalist conservatives here will shout down anyone who is critical of the scrap yards because they have to virtue signal about how its muh capitalism. Of course, their virtue signaling will be non existent when their catalytic convertor gets stolen and sold to the same type of criminal scrap yard. Then it'll be different because it effects them personally. Have you ever been to a scrap yard? You can't sell without a copy of a DL |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 11:37:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack-of-Hearts: I'm not into EVs either right now but I'm not opposed to other people having them. Why would someone cut the cables? Normally I'm a live and let live kind of guy but with all of the false narratives around EVs and the government trying force them on us all I'm going to sit here and enjoy my shaudenfreude. Especially because it's loony lawless SF. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 11:44:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jb31: Have you ever been to a scrap yard? You can't sell without a copy of a DL ...And then what? Plenty of thieves have DL's and ID. So what, they show what they have to the scrapyard, collect their money and go on about their day. In the california bay area, there is nobody willing to investigate and prosecute for theft, either for EV charging cables or entire cars. You have to do something really heinous to get the attention of a local police department / DA. Laws only apply to the law-abiding. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 11:47:45 AM EDT
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Vandalism would be if someone cut the cables and left them on the ground, or spray painted the Tesla logos on the charging "pumps".
Theft is if someone cut the cables and ran off with them, and didn't spray paint anything. Words have meaning. The media really wants to move this into a different direction. |
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ID, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 2:32:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By norseman1: The rest of the country will enjoy the contact high we get from it burning to the ground. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By norseman1: The rest of the country will enjoy the contact high we get from it burning to the ground. Shit, you aint wrong there. Originally Posted By 762SR25: Especially because it's loony lawless SF. Not quite, Vallejo is across the bay from SF Still loony and lawless though |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 2:37:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: sharky30]
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Originally Posted By LArifleMAN: I'm kinda curious how they're not getting lit up like Christmas trees while cutting them. No current until they're hooked up to a vehicle? They're like a gas pump, current is off to the charging cable until you provide your credit card. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 3:21:19 PM EDT
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Probably cut with a stolen saws all
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Posted: 5/14/2024 3:23:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sharky30: They're like a gas pump, current is off to the charging cable until you provide your credit card. At least Tesla owners may only have to connect the cord and it starts charging. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 3:29:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1Andy2: Needs magnavolt lethal response I'd buy that for a dollar |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 3:40:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack-of-Hearts: I'm not into EVs either right now but I'm not opposed to other people having them. Why would someone cut the cables? For the same reason the US Customs and Border Patrol began scrutinizing every Tesla battery for DOT compliance and every component they need hit for tarriffs - harassment Some agent provocateur for sure. Nobody cuts into a live 440 line without specific knowledge of how and why to do it otherwise this story would be about persons found electrocuted. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 3:50:42 PM EDT
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I guess if you're a climate-denying meth-addict copper thief, you can kill two birds with one stone by cutting the cables.
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Posted: 5/14/2024 3:57:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack-of-Hearts: I'm not into EVs either right now but I'm not opposed to other people having them. Why would someone cut the cables? In California we have wildlife called tweaker. They will steal anything that can be recycled for cash. In my business the first thing I did before moving in was paint all my copper pipes white. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 3:58:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Waldo: Gas pump master race checking in. Nobody steals gas hoses.  They just steal the gas instead. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2024 4:01:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ZuoZongtang: They'll blame it on some MAGA bastards. They would have called it they then. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 5:33:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cherenkov: For the same reason the US Customs and Border Patrol began scrutinizing every Tesla battery for DOT compliance and every component they need hit for tarriffs - harassment Some agent provocateur for sure. Nobody cuts into a live 440 line without specific knowledge of how and why to do it otherwise this story would be about persons found electrocuted. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 8:08:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheWhiteHorse: In Vallejo, it's definitely bums selling it for scrap. |
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Posted: 5/14/2024 11:02:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jb31: Have you ever been to a scrap yard? You can't sell without a copy of a DL Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jb31: Originally Posted By A_G: Originally Posted By kc-coyote: And I bet the unscrupulous metal recycler will accept it, no questions asked. You can bet on that, and you can also bet all the principled, capitalist conservatives here will shout down anyone who is critical of the scrap yards because they have to virtue signal about how its muh capitalism. Of course, their virtue signaling will be non existent when their catalytic convertor gets stolen and sold to the same type of criminal scrap yard. Then it'll be different because it effects them personally. Have you ever been to a scrap yard? You can't sell without a copy of a DL There are legitimate scrap yards, and then there are plenty of them that will happily buy your "scrap" copper "scrap" catalytic convertors for less than market value and turn around and sell it for market value themselves all while knowing full well they are buying stolen property. |
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