Since CZ is running the show now, does the hive think that maybe if we flood them with emails about bringing back the 901 maybe we could them to bring it back or at least offer backside support items? the canadian military still uses the C20 SASS/DMR rifle.

It certainly wouldn't hurt to try.

901 is one of the best AR-pattern rifles in existence IMO. Colt just had no idea how to sell it. Also developed spectacular 5.56 companion uppers with similar features and then proceeded to not sell them.

Only Colt could come up with a rifle that weighs as much as and has the same balance and accuracy as my friend's SR-25 ECC at 1/3 the price and then not be able to figure out how to sell or market it.

They really are surprisingly accurate. If they could’ve made the Marc 901’s MLOK instead of the screw in rails that would’ve been awesome.

The Colt Canada C20 has a monolithic MLok Upper.

I really should have bought one of these when they were around.

I’m not sure I want to pay the premium they bring now with no real support behind them.

Same here.

CZ is making some big claims about its plans for Colt and the ‘sport market’. Not allot of specifics but what they have said looks positive for Colt. CZ realized it can’t live on .gov contracts before they even purchased.

So anyone with some inside CZ/Colt communication contacts would be doing us all a favor of directing a CZ executive to this thread.

Damn well best summary of the 901 that I have found.

Not sure if this has been mentioned.  

The Colt CK901 has an ambi charging handle made by BCM.  Any one know if this would work on the regular 901's?
GFH 901A

I saw this on the Forgotten weapons video of the CK901, 5:04 mark.  The bolt carrier looks to be the same size 901 carrier.

Is that the 7.62x39 901?

I have, I am pretty sure, one of every different CH made for the 901, including the BCM GFH 901A. Unless the CH BCM made for the CK901 and CM901 are different but with the exact same model number, that charging handle should work on both 7.62x51 and 7.62x39.

From left to right:

1. Troy SOCC 901
2. Bravo Company GFH 901A
3. PRI M84-901 Gasbuster with Combat Latch
4. Colt CM901 Original

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Troy SOCC is the same as its AR-10 and AR-15 brethren. Works very well and I like the way the rear of the charging handle is shaped: they gave some thought to the thumb on the rear side when you give it a pinch to operate it. It is, I believe, what shipped with the final commercial iterations of the 901: the CM762 and CM65. Does a pretty decent job of redirecting gasses when shooting suppressed. My only complaint is the same as the regular Troy SOCC: the latch is kind of thin and that sucker digs into your bone sometimes if you're trying to extract a stubborn cartridge. Also sometimes results in slipping when doing a quick one-sided charge. Would easily be my favorite if Troy doubled the height of the latches so they matched the height of the charging handle, which would alleviate both issues. As it is, it's #2.

BCM GFH 901A is the VLTOR-designed BCM-made A44 aka Mod 4 Gunfighter ambi charging handle, resized for the 901. I'm not sure what this was ever on aside from FMS of the CM901 and CK901. Possibly just those. This is the best of the bunch IMO. Redirects gasses from firing suppressed very well, and unlike the Troy SOCC does not give a damn if the gun is bone dry with a stuck cartridge, the ample engagement area and friction serrations mean you've got enough grip to rip that sucker out without the metal biting into your finger.

PRI M84 is... well, with all due respect to PRI, they phoned this one in. Dimensions are poorly sized so it's hardcore scraping against the upper every time you use it, such that the finish is stripped off in several spots from a single range session. The rear is also not properly machined to 901 dimensions so its job of "gas busting" it abjectly fails at doing. This is an "upgrade" over the factory CH for the larger latch alone.

CM901 charging handle is just your basic Colt M16 charging handle resized for the 901's bolt carrier. Does its job but isn't optimal. Standard equipment on every commercial monolithic 901.

Received a reply e-mail from BCM.  They only made a couple hundred for Colt for the Yemen CK901 contract.    Also, says the BCM charging handle would work with the CM901.     If the 901 had been a bigger success, they would have sold them to the public.    Which is too bad.  Since the charging handle is hard to access and even more so with any magnified optic.

So now it’s time to scour for a bcm 308 charging handle

I believe they said that the not in production BCM handle for the CK901(7.62x39) will also fit the CMandLE901(7.62x51).  The normal AR10 BCM handle will not fit.

Might take some doing, I had to get mine off a Colt employee who had all kinds of oddball parts.

Does anyone think it’s possible for a machine shop to make a colt 901 bolt? I haven’t broken mine or anything but I do worry since that’s thing that would most likely fail on the gun.

Should be easy, just an AR-10 bolt with a few modifications to dimensions. The problem would be having the money to order enough units that a quality shop would take on the job.

BTW, on the subject of the 901, a couple weekends ago I went to the range with my 901 and put a giant pile of modifications through the ringer:

1. Surefire Warcomp
2. Surefire SOCOM762-RC2 both on and off
3. Kynshot AR-10 carbine hydraulic buffer
4. Sprinco AR-10 carbine orange spring
5. 901 BCG completely NP3+ plated by Wright Armory

Thing ran like a fuckin' top for 500 rounds. Recoil was perfectly flat and dramatically controllable even firing as fast as my finger could pull the trigger.

1 failure-to-feed: did a couple mags of Russian steelcase and one round failed to send the BCG back far enough to strip a new round. Zero failures on American and German brass of multiple types.

I LOVE this setup. Going to keep increasing the round count (as I can afford) and see how it goes.

If I get the round count high enough with excellent reliability, maybe I should call CZ management and pitch an LE901 FrostMod for relaunching the platform.

Wele maybe we can get enough guys here and on m4carbine.net to go in. There is a shop in FL BSD fab worx that does custom machine work for DIY cans so maybe they would take on the work.

But second note that’s awesome for your 901, was that suppressed only? Does it run like that without the can?

2015 Colt catalog image.

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Thought others may find this interesting.
Last of the 901 Forgings (ARF Thread)

I use an AAC SDN6 on 16" and have never had an issue.

Not the first time raw Colt forgings have been out there.  I have seen a few 6940 upper forgings.  The tooling for the 901 still exists and more are being made as Colt Canada is still actively delivering and pursuing contracts for the C20, which seems to be gaining a customer base…

The 272 rifles and spare parts will cost $8.5 million.

Either my 901s are worth way more than I thought and they are giving them away on GB,
or the C20 has some magic I don’t know about.

A few clicks on the web and it appears the C20 and 901 are from the same receiver family.
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Here for the education, I’ve been out of the 901 loop for a bit.  

from the above hotlink
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The C20 is magical.

I'm considering jumping ship and moving over to a SCAR.  A LE901 with an extra 6945 upper and conversion; I think I can get pretty close to an even trade.

Does anyone own both and have any strong opinions?

Put the combination on GB and you will get $4000 or more potentially. Trading for a SCAR isn't a fair trade for you in my opinion.

I can snap a pic of a ‘first of 100’ with a 6940 upper if it would help?

I have had 3 Scar 17 rifles and still have a 20s.  As a carbine the 901 is the better gun than the 17s.  Much tougher receiver with longer handguards, a heat shield, MUCH heavier barrel, a stock that is better(how FN managed to design a stock that is worse than a 50 year old design limited by having a pogo stick spring run though it is one of life’s great mysteries), all while being within .4 of a pound(less if you swap the stock). Both were equally accurate and reliable.

The only reason I would grab a scar is if I planned to sbr it.

yeah and I think that is a very dumb idea you are considering

Well I can appreciate the feeback either way! Can you expand alittle on it since you have a pretty strong opinion?

Thanks.

besides  you taking a fucking from the value of the 901 and '45 alone ,the SCAR H is nothing special and isnt even as accurate as the 901 in my experience

never ind trading off an already rare 6945 upper.     moving to the SCAR H instead of the 901 would be a smooth brain move.  and why? cause you think  you may some day and some time  maybe need a replacement part for the 901 and not be able to get it?

I've been using a 901 heavily for years with no issues. Most people cant afford enough 7.62 ammo to wear out any of the uncommon parts on the 901 but they worry they may have to get a new BCG lol thats fucking retarded and keeping you from enjoying a damn fine gun

I still shoot matches with my gun and I know it’s a tough gun but I still want another BCG. I know it will be a lot of rounds before it’s actually going to wear it out but if a bolt goes down then the gun is now a giant paper weight

I think thats where some of the 5.56 piston guns ended up with proprietary parts, guys have some expensive paper weights.

Y'all looks like I'm getting a Modular Carbine CM762 16S. Quick question, what are the FCG pins diameter? .154"
Thanks

That is a great score if you found one!

It still is a risky undertaking, though I took a chance and purchased one from a private seller out of state. I'm already sweating because the payment method wasn't the traditional route I would generally use. They are shipping FFL to FFL. Now lots of questions on the gas block being adjustable.

eta: Yes I'm excited! We don't know for sure if these guns will ever be produced by Colt again.

yes, but they are slightly longer than the pins in 556 lowers so if you are going to replace the trigger with a match trigger you need to reuse the factory pins

You can get an extra set of 901 pins from Geissele.  I got an extra set when I installed a National Match trigger.

Can anyone confirm the gas block on the 'CM762-16S' is adjustable?

Colt Detail
Were they initially or is this a change?

The Colt details page "...It is also capable of being fired utilizing a sound suppressor with both supersonic and sub-sonic ammunition at the press of a button thanks to the integrated dual position, low profile gas block."

Thanks

It sounds like Colt used the gas system that is on this 5.56mm prototype upper receiver that I have. When you watch the video, you will see that the gas system works by pushing a button left to right.

https://youtu.be/xy7li5Eded8

I’ve learned not to make ‘blanket’ answers to anything about Colt but here are pics of two CM rifle gas blocks.


One is 7.62 and the other 6.5.
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I’ve got many pics of the CM and LE series if they would be of help.

That Colt site is confusing (to me).
I suspect it just pertains to the Canadian Military model.

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Hopefully a pro will confirm but the M7 ‘Canadian’ has differences than the CM762. I realize on the link you provided the sku is CM762 but that doesn’t jive with the M7. Again, a pro will be along to confirm or educate.

Congrats on your new pony.

Did you get the ambi or non-ambi receiver?
(assuming standard CM)

I don't have it in my hands yet, it is an ambi lower.

The M7 is just the CM7 marketed to military and LE end users.  Nothing to do with Canada.

Thanks for the info. I misunderstood the entire platform was dead except for Colt Canada.
Possibly I assumed the 901 and CM platforms were doomed together?

Basically...the CM762 replaced the LE901-16S, LE901-16SE and AR901. Then the CM762 and CM65 was shutdown about the same time.

So how does the M7 puzzle in? An ambi CM receiver and a ‘Canadian Style’ for lack of better term upper?
Until today I thought an M7 was a bayonet.

No Canada style anything.  Canada or Colt Canada doesn’t have anything to do with the CM7 or M7. I think that is where you are confused.  The CM7 rifle does not have a monolithic upper receiver at all.  It has a removable handguard that mounts to the upper, not the. Adele but like most ar15s.

The M7 exists as a picture in a brochure and likely a model that Colt carts around to international trade shows aimed at attracting an order large enough to justify starting production.  To my knowledge, they have not found a customer yet.

Thank You

So it’s vapor ware. A marketing page for a model that doesn’t exist and isn’t for sale.
What a waste. I knew the C20 was being marketed to other countries so couldn’t figure out where the hell a “M7” was coming from.

I can’t believe I moistened my panties over a marketing piece of paper.

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Got some of these 901 80% lowers that are from actual Colt 901 lower forgings I thought were neat!

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