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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/8/2023 12:54:41 PM EDT
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Botach
Le6920 pd trade ins, unsure of rollmark https://botach.com/colts-law-enforcement-5-56-carbine-police-trade/ |
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Posted: 12/8/2023 6:16:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DTOWN_MJ: Botach Le6920 pd trade ins, unsure of rollmark https://botach.com/colts-law-enforcement-5-56-carbine-police-trade/ Too expensive to gamble with botach. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 12/8/2023 11:44:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fullmedaljacket8: Too expensive to gamble with botach. This. |
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USA
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Posted: 12/15/2023 6:53:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Citizen904]
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Back in stock at AIM $629
https://aimsurplus.com/products/leo-trade-in-colt-le6920-16in-223556-ar15-rifle-black Edit: Sold out again in under an hour. I grabbed another one. |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 9:41:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: fullmedaljacket8]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Citizen904: Back in stock at AIM $629 https://aimsurplus.com/products/leo-trade-in-colt-le6920-16in-223556-ar15-rifle-black Edit: Sold out again in under an hour. I grabbed another one. Got me one too |
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USA
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Posted: 12/16/2023 5:08:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fullmedaljacket8: Got me one too Nice. I bet somebody bought a bunch of them because I saw a post saying they were actually sold out in 15 minutes this time. |
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Posted: 12/17/2023 4:09:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Citizen904: Nice. I bet somebody bought a bunch of them because I saw a post saying they were actually sold out in 15 minutes this time. Yeah I got my credit card out as soon as I could. What kind of handguard is that in the picture? |
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USA
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Posted: 12/19/2023 9:51:14 PM EDT
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Anybody receive one from this latest batch yet?
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USA
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Posted: 12/20/2023 1:40:27 PM EDT
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Mine came in from AIM and it looks damn near new. The mark on the reviver in the close up is barely visible to the naked eye.
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Posted: 12/26/2023 6:48:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: fullmedaljacket8]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Citizen904: Mine came in from AIM and it looks damn near new. The mark on the reviver in the close up is barely visible to the naked eye. https://i.ibb.co/SQ8kHp5/IMG-1077.jpg Picked up mine today. About the same condition as yours. No side sling swivel, same mft m44s plastic quad handguard and magpul mbus. Dressed it up the best I could with what I have. Brownells RAS, matech, & eotech exps2.  Attached File Attached File |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 1/1/2024 5:51:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: frankstang]
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So I've had good luck the past couple months with PD trade ins. Got a monolithic upper cut down to a 6945 and M4 LE lower from Clydes, a 6933 upper from Botach, and just bought the last AR15 A3 tactical carbine lower from BlueMountain.
I didn't know about all the other sites that sell PD trade ins until reading this thread. I guess it's all fun and games until you get a dud seeing as you can't return them. Botach has Colt A2 Govt. Carbine sbr lowers for $399. https://botach.com/colt-ar-15-a2-govt-carbine-short-barrel-rifle-nfa-complete-lower-restricted-marked-police-trade/ I'm guessing you have to do the form 1 and tax stamp deal to buy one of these ? |
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Posted: 1/2/2024 12:32:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By frankstang: So I've had good luck the past couple months with PD trade ins. Got a monolithic upper cut down to a 6945 and M4 LE lower from Clydes, a 6933 upper from Botach, and just bought the last AR15 A3 tactical carbine lower from BlueMountain. I didn't know about all the other sites that sell PD trade ins until reading this thread. I guess it's all fun and games until you get a dud seeing as you can't return them. Botach has Colt A2 Govt. Carbine sbr lowers for $399. https://botach.com/colt-ar-15-a2-govt-carbine-short-barrel-rifle-nfa-complete-lower-restricted-marked-police-trade/ I'm guessing you have to do the form 1 and tax stamp deal to buy one of these ? They may be removed from the NFA registry. |
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USA
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Posted: 1/2/2024 8:40:21 AM EDT
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Yeah, I asked Botach about that and they won't bother with removing them - they want to transfer as Form 3s to dealers.
I suppose it's easier for them, but it'd probably be better for sales if they just sent the ATF the letter and sold them as regular non-NFA lowers (which they absolutely can). |
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USA
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Posted: 1/2/2024 8:41:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By frankstang: Botach has Colt A2 Govt. Carbine sbr lowers for $399. https://botach.com/colt-ar-15-a2-govt-carbine-short-barrel-rifle-nfa-complete-lower-restricted-marked-police-trade/ I'm guessing you have to do the form 1 and tax stamp deal to buy one of these ? Botach wants to transfer them on a Form 3 to a dealer, who would then Form 4 it to you, just like a suppressor. You pay for it, it's shipped to your dealer, then you pay $200 and wait a while for your stamp. |
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Posted: 1/2/2024 9:38:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThatGuy01: Botach wants to transfer them on a Form 3 to a dealer, who would then Form 4 it to you, just like a suppressor. You pay for it, it's shipped to your dealer, then you pay $200 and wait a while for your stamp. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThatGuy01: Originally Posted By frankstang: Botach has Colt A2 Govt. Carbine sbr lowers for $399. https://botach.com/colt-ar-15-a2-govt-carbine-short-barrel-rifle-nfa-complete-lower-restricted-marked-police-trade/ I'm guessing you have to do the form 1 and tax stamp deal to buy one of these ? Botach wants to transfer them on a Form 3 to a dealer, who would then Form 4 it to you, just like a suppressor. You pay for it, it's shipped to your dealer, then you pay $200 and wait a while for your stamp. They'll probably have trouble moving them then. Why would somebody go through that for a used lower when they can form 1 a new one? Last I checked form 1s were still getting approved faster than form 4s, and you can actually use your lower with a 16"+ upper while you wait for your form 1 to be approved. |
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Posted: 1/2/2024 11:01:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThatGuy01: Yeah, I asked Botach about that and they won't bother with removing them - they want to transfer as Form 3s to dealers. I suppose it's easier for them, but it'd probably be better for sales if they just sent the ATF the letter and sold them as regular non-NFA lowers (which they absolutely can). 
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USA
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Posted: 1/2/2024 12:15:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AK-12: They'll probably have trouble moving them then. Why would somebody go through that for a used lower when they can form 1 a new one? Last I checked form 1s were still getting approved faster than form 4s, and you can actually use your lower with a 16"+ upper while you wait for your form 1 to be approved. Yep, I assume that's why they're still sitting there. They've been on the site for at least a month. |
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Posted: 1/2/2024 12:21:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AK-12: They'll probably have trouble moving them then. Why would somebody go through that for a used lower when they can form 1 a new one? Last I checked form 1s were still getting approved faster than form 4s, and you can actually use your lower with a 16"+ upper while you wait for your form 1 to be approved. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AK-12: Originally Posted By ThatGuy01: Originally Posted By frankstang: Botach has Colt A2 Govt. Carbine sbr lowers for $399. https://botach.com/colt-ar-15-a2-govt-carbine-short-barrel-rifle-nfa-complete-lower-restricted-marked-police-trade/ I'm guessing you have to do the form 1 and tax stamp deal to buy one of these ? Botach wants to transfer them on a Form 3 to a dealer, who would then Form 4 it to you, just like a suppressor. You pay for it, it's shipped to your dealer, then you pay $200 and wait a while for your stamp. They'll probably have trouble moving them then. Why would somebody go through that for a used lower when they can form 1 a new one? Last I checked form 1s were still getting approved faster than form 4s, and you can actually use your lower with a 16"+ upper while you wait for your form 1 to be approved. Some people might not want to add engraving, it’s not required on a factory SBR. |
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Posted: 1/2/2024 2:47:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By frankstang: So I've had good luck the past couple months with PD trade ins. Got a monolithic upper cut down to a 6945 and M4 LE lower from Clydes, a 6933 upper from Botach, and just bought the last AR15 A3 tactical carbine lower from BlueMountain. I didn't know about all the other sites that sell PD trade ins until reading this thread. I guess it's all fun and games until you get a dud seeing as you can't return them. Botach has Colt A2 Govt. Carbine sbr lowers for $399. https://botach.com/colt-ar-15-a2-govt-carbine-short-barrel-rifle-nfa-complete-lower-restricted-marked-police-trade/ I'm guessing you have to do the form 1 and tax stamp deal to buy one of these ? That they don’t have the factory end plate and Colt staking is the big dealbreaker for me |
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Posted: 1/2/2024 7:17:34 PM EDT
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Sorry this is not really a PD trade in Q, but what is a used but excellent shape LE serialized 6920 going for these days?
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Posted: 1/2/2024 7:20:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlbinoMuskrat: Sorry this is not really a PD trade in Q, but what is a used but excellent shape LE serialized 6920 going for these days? $1300 to $1500. $1500 is the high end if you can find the right buyer. |
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Posted: 1/2/2024 8:26:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Minuteman1636: $1300 to $1500. $1500 is the high end if you can find the right buyer. Wow. Ok I haven't been paying much attention in the last 2yrs as other life stuff has taken precedent. Found one for $899 at a retailer. C marks where they need to be, smooth glossy black anno. It does have a QR so later model. Appreciate it. |
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Posted: 1/3/2024 2:57:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Brook99]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThatGuy01: Yeah, I asked Botach about that and they won't bother with removing them - they want to transfer as Form 3s to dealers. I suppose it's easier for them, but it'd probably be better for sales if they just sent the ATF the letter and sold them as regular non-NFA lowers (which they absolutely can). its not a NFA item so they wouldnt need to do any forms. it would transfer like any other AR15 lower. no need to send the ATF a letter. |
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Posted: 1/3/2024 3:15:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brook99: its not a NFA item so they wouldnt need to do any forms. it would transfer like any other AR15 lower. no need to send the ATF a letter. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brook99: Originally Posted By ThatGuy01: Yeah, I asked Botach about that and they won't bother with removing them - they want to transfer as Form 3s to dealers. I suppose it's easier for them, but it'd probably be better for sales if they just sent the ATF the letter and sold them as regular non-NFA lowers (which they absolutely can). its not a NFA item so they wouldnt need to do any forms. it would transfer like any other AR15 lower. no need to send the ATF a letter. By not removing them they are fucking over the guys that want to buy them and register their own SBR, correct? Since they are previously registered. |
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Posted: 1/3/2024 3:26:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TGWLDR: By not removing them they are fucking over the guys that want to buy them and register their own SBR, correct? Since they are previously registered. nope. someone can buy it and SBR it if they want. |
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Posted: 1/3/2024 3:39:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TGWLDR]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brook99: nope. someone can buy it and SBR it if they want. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brook99: Originally Posted By TGWLDR: By not removing them they are fucking over the guys that want to buy them and register their own SBR, correct? Since they are previously registered. nope. someone can buy it and SBR it if they want. The fact that it is already in the registry has no bearing on an application to Form 1 the same S/N firearm? This tells me that the buyer would have to apply to have it removed, and it sounds like a pain the dick. https://www.nationalguntrusts.com/blogs/nfa-gun-trust-atf-information-database-blog/removing-an-sbr-sbs-from-the-nfrtr-and-then-reregistering-the-sbr-sbs-process Buyer wants to register your previously registered SBR/SBR, now a title 1 firearm as an SBR/SBS: The seller would need to submit a request to remove the SBR/SBS from the NFRTR. This process can take the ATF up to 3 months or more in some cases. You can use our ATF NFRTR Removal Letter Generator to create this letter to send to the ATF. Once you have confirmed that the SBR/SBS is removed from the ATF, the buyer can then start the process to manufacture an SBR/SBS from the title 1 firearm that they purchased. The buyer will apply for their tax stamp using the ATF Form 1 or the ATF eForm 1 form. They won't be using the ATF Form 4, since the seller has removed the SBR/SBR from the ATF NFRTR. This is the most common and fastest was to transfer an SBR/SBS firearm. If the seller wants to sell an SBR/SBS using the ATF Form 4 to the new buyer, the buyer can wait 7 to 12 months or more depending on how fast the FBI returns your background check (this is the situation below). But if the seller removes the SBR/SBS from the ATF NFRTR, which generally has a 3 month turnaround from the ATF, then the buyer can use the ATF eForm 1 system to manufacturer their own SBR/SBS. The average approval time using the ATF eForm 1 system is around 30 days. This means that the total application time for the SBR/SBS would be around a 4 month wait time, instead of the 7 to 12 month wait time that the ATF Form 4 would take. This is the faster route to buy and get an approved tax stamp for your SBR/SBS. The buyer would need to re-engrave the firearm with the their applicant information, e.g. individual, gun trust, or legal entity. This has always been my understanding, that it had to be removed in order to reapply for a new stamp. |
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Posted: 1/3/2024 4:14:21 PM EDT
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nope. currently the lower is no different than any other title 1 lower, minus the fact that it can be built into a SBR by the person it is currently registered to. it can be treated as a title 1 item in all other ways.
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USA
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Posted: 1/3/2024 5:28:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ThatGuy01]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brook99: its not a NFA item so they wouldnt need to do any forms. it would transfer like any other AR15 lower. no need to send the ATF a letter. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brook99: its not a NFA item so they wouldnt need to do any forms. it would transfer like any other AR15 lower. no need to send the ATF a letter. Yes, you know that, and I know that. Botach wants to transfer them on form 3s.  Originally Posted By Brook99: nope. someone can buy it and SBR it if they want. But they will come back as previously SBR'd rifles, that's why Botach should notify the ATF, to avoid hassle for the next person. You don't NEED to, but it helps avoid issues down the line when ATF asks why a rifle pops as an SBR and didn't go through a Form 3/4 process. |
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Posted: 1/3/2024 5:37:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlbinoMuskrat]
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Botach has some used Law Enforcement, A2 Gov't and 6920 for sale. 6920 is best deal @$800
https://botach.com/colt-ar-15-a2-govt-carbine-223-rifle-police-trade/ https://botach.com/colts-law-enforcement-5-56-carbine-police-trade/ https://botach.com/colt-le6920-16-rifle-with-upgraded-trigger-police-demo-used/ |
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Posted: 1/3/2024 6:40:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThatGuy01: Yes, you know that, and I know that. Botach wants to transfer them on form 3s. But they will come back as previously SBR'd rifles, that's why Botach should notify the ATF, to avoid hassle for the next person. You don't NEED to, but it helps avoid issues down the line when ATF asks why a rifle pops as an SBR and didn't go through a Form 3/4 process. its typically not any hassle. it will just show that it was previously a SBR. its not a big deal |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 1/3/2024 7:06:37 PM EDT
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Got the email that they had them in stock
OOS in Less than 15 Min |
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Posted: 1/3/2024 7:41:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SnprPSG1: Got the email that they had them in stock OOS in Less than 15 Min The wife was using the computer so I tried checking out with my phone and looking up the FFL took too long and I just missed it |
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Posted: 1/3/2024 7:56:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By frankstang: So I've had good luck the past couple months with PD trade ins. Got a monolithic upper cut down to a 6945 and M4 LE lower from Clydes, a 6933 upper from Botach, and just bought the last AR15 A3 tactical carbine lower from BlueMountain. I didn't know about all the other sites that sell PD trade ins until reading this thread. I guess it's all fun and games until you get a dud seeing as you can't return them. Botach has Colt A2 Govt. Carbine sbr lowers for $399. https://botach.com/colt-ar-15-a2-govt-carbine-short-barrel-rifle-nfa-complete-lower-restricted-marked-police-trade/ I'm guessing you have to do the form 1 and tax stamp deal to buy one of these ? |
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Posted: 1/3/2024 8:28:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SnprPSG1: Got the email that they had them in stock Got one... AIM said in their Industry section that they are from NJ... LE6920s with B5 MLOK handguards. Under 30 rifles. Will post pictures when I get it in hand. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/5/2024 7:37:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Screwball: Got one... AIM said in their Industry section that they are from NJ... LE6920s with B5 MLOK handguards. Under 30 rifles. Will post pictures when I get it in hand. Any pics? Aim has ar15a2s w restricted markings for $1200…too much IMO https://aimsurplus.com/products/used-leo-trade-in-colt-16in-223556-ar15-a2-rifle |
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Posted: 1/5/2024 8:47:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DTOWN_MJ: Any pics? Should be delivered to the FFL Tuesday… unsure if I’ll be able to get there that night, next night… or following day. Has to fit around work. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/5/2024 9:31:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Screwball: Should be delivered to the FFL Tuesday… unsure if I’ll be able to get there that night, next night… or following day. Has to fit around work. So i must have missed part of the convo, but what exactly was it that you guys ordered that sold out so quickly? |
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Posted: 1/5/2024 10:10:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/5/2024 10:34:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DTOWN_MJ: So i must have missed part of the convo, but what exactly was it that you guys ordered that sold out so quickly? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DTOWN_MJ: So i must have missed part of the convo, but what exactly was it that you guys ordered that sold out so quickly? Originally Posted By Screwball: AIM said in their Industry section that they are from NJ... LE6920s with B5 MLOK handguards. Under 30 rifles. |
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Posted: 1/9/2024 10:17:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Screwball]
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     That was before cleaning. Wasn’t too bad, and looks like the armorer actually cared. Cannot wait to get a red dot, rear sight, light and sling… |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/25/2024 3:29:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DTOWN_MJ]
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$1399 match hbar restricted marked
Kings firearms $900 restricted marked le6920s https://www.kingsfirearmsonline.com/products/colt-r4-yellow-red-528 |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 1/26/2024 2:31:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DTOWN_MJ: $1399 match hbar restricted marked Kings firearms $900 restricted marked le6920s https://www.kingsfirearmsonline.com/products/colt-r4-yellow-red-528 Figures the HBAR Restricted A2's are - OOS |
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Posted: 1/28/2024 11:11:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/30/2024 10:37:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DTOWN_MJ: $1399 match hbar restricted marked Kings firearms $900 restricted marked le6920s https://www.kingsfirearmsonline.com/products/colt-r4-yellow-red-528 I posted this deal in GD. Not many takers apparently. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 1:24:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pwcb2005: I posted this deal in GD. Not many takers apparently. The market may be saying it's not willing to pay $1k for beat to crap cop guns. |
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Posted: 1/30/2024 3:07:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlbinoMuskrat: The market may be saying it's not willing to pay $1k for beat to crap cop guns. This^^^^^^^ It is nice to see a market that has been ridiculously hyper-inflated for years finally getting some sense back. |
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Posted: 3/6/2024 10:44:19 PM EDT
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Picked up a couple of well used A2's (and a new can!)
Can anyone help date these by SN? They both start with LGC rather than GC. They both say CAL 223 on the lower, but barrel says 5.56. LGC0181XX LGC0284XX  Attached File |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 3/7/2024 2:33:10 PM EDT
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Killer deal.
M4LE marked lower receivers for $399 at AIM.. HURRY!! https://www.aimsurplus.com/products/leo-trade-in-colt-law-enforcement-marked-223556-ar15-lower-rifle-receiver |
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Posted: 3/7/2024 2:37:47 PM EDT
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The picture showes a double bullet roll mark. That would really make it a crazy deal.
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Posted: 3/7/2024 2:38:40 PM EDT
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