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Posted: 10/8/2022 1:34:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 45BArmorer]
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I did, it is a standard glock hex nut 3/16ths.
Used my nut driver that came with one of the sight sets I bought when building a poly 80. Didn't realize I'd started page 4. Edited to add photos Big fan of Strike Industries Strike Iron iron sights.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 10/8/2022 2:36:27 PM EDT
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THANKS!!!
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Posted: 10/9/2022 8:09:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PursuitSS]
[#3]
I installed a Streamlight TLR-1 HL and TruGlo TFX Fiber Optic/Tritium suppressor height sights.
 NOW if I can find a Small of the Back Holster |
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Posted: 10/9/2022 8:20:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PursuitSS: I installed a Streamlight TLR-1 HL and TruGlo TFX Fiber Optic/Tritium suppressor height sights. https://i.imgur.com/Q8BS3Ml.jpg NOW if I can find a Small of the Back Holster Or any damn holster as Ive only seen one out there for these (we are nerd). |
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Posted: 10/10/2022 12:28:06 AM EDT
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Does anyone sell adjustable suppressor height Glock sights? That's the one thing the Ruger and FSN have is that if needed I can adjust the rear blade for different loads.. Having some taller ones to co-witness on the Rock would be awesome..
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Posted: 10/14/2022 3:31:07 PM EDT
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Does anyone know of a holster maker that makes a hybrid holster for the Rock 5.7 or a model that the rock will fit in?
Similar to the Comp-tac Spartan or Minotaur and Crossbreed's Super Tuck Deluxe? |
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Posted: 10/17/2022 5:43:10 PM EDT
[#7]
Is the Rock’s Frame immune to carb cleaner?
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WA, USA
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Posted: 10/20/2022 7:21:28 AM EDT
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I'd definitely go with non-chlorinated brake cleaner if I were going to try it.
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Posted: 10/20/2022 11:46:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesystem: I'd definitely go with non-chlorinated brake cleaner if I were going to try it. I purchased a can of Gunscrubber, DAMN that Federal crap is DIRTY! Lots of unburned powder! |
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Posted: 10/24/2022 3:14:52 PM EDT
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Anyone used one of these with a rifle can instead of a 22 can? My understanding is there is no need for a booster but I do have a sico booster if need be.
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Posted: 10/24/2022 3:29:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bandhunter: Anyone used one of these with a rifle can instead of a 22 can? My understanding is there is no need for a booster but I do have a sico booster if need be. Barrel is toggle locked, you will probably need a booster with anything but a super-light .22 can. |
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Posted: 10/24/2022 9:59:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RDTCU: Barrel is toggle locked, you will probably need a booster with anything but a super-light .22 can. |
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Posted: 10/25/2022 8:52:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RDTCU]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Buffman_LT1: Do not use a booster with 5.7 pistols. If you're only going to run supers, almost every can under 11-12 oz will run on the 5.7 guns, in direct thread. It's only if you want to run subsonics, do you need an ultra light under 6 oz can. Gotcha How about a R9 with a 3lug?  I'm sure it's too heavy and would probably beat up the mount. |
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Posted: 10/25/2022 12:30:26 PM EDT
[#14]
Originally Posted By Buffman_LT1: Do not use a booster with 5.7 pistols. If you're only going to run supers, almost every can under 11-12 oz will run on the 5.7 guns, in direct thread. It's only if you want to run subsonics, do you need an ultra light under 6 oz can. Originally Posted By RDTCU: Gotcha How about a R9 with a 3lug? I'm sure it's too heavy and would probably beat up the mount. Thanks Buffman I was actually thinking about throwing a Res K on one. 9.8 oz before thread adapter or booster. |
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Posted: 10/25/2022 1:28:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RDTCU: Gotcha How about a R9 with a 3lug? I'm sure it's too heavy and would probably beat up the mount. |
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Posted: 10/25/2022 3:13:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Buffman_LT1: I ran the R9 on the Ruger 57 in a fixed mount without issue. Interesting, how did it sound, and how tall would the sights have to be to see over it? |
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Posted: 10/25/2022 3:53:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RDTCU: Interesting, how did it sound, and how tall would the sights have to be to see over it? |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 10/27/2022 10:11:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bandhunter: Thanks Buffman I was actually thinking about throwing a Res K on one. 9.8 oz before thread adapter or booster. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bandhunter: Originally Posted By Buffman_LT1: Do not use a booster with 5.7 pistols. If you're only going to run supers, almost every can under 11-12 oz will run on the 5.7 guns, in direct thread. It's only if you want to run subsonics, do you need an ultra light under 6 oz can. Originally Posted By RDTCU: Gotcha How about a R9 with a 3lug? I'm sure it's too heavy and would probably beat up the mount. Thanks Buffman I was actually thinking about throwing a Res K on one. 9.8 oz before thread adapter or booster. Turbo K sounded good but did not cycle |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 11/2/2022 2:28:19 PM EDT
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I just got a PSA 5.7 ROCK with an optic cut and threaded barrel to shoot with my new dead air mask suppressor. It will not cycle when I run it suppressed and I am extremely disappointed about it. I emailed PSA 3 weeks ago and have not heard anything back.
When I shoot the FN ammo it does not eject the spent brass, when i try the American eagle ammo it ejects the spent brass and bends the next round but still does not load a new one in the chamber. Anyone have any ideas? |
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Posted: 11/2/2022 3:15:57 PM EDT
[#20]
Just received my Tacrig https://tacrig.com/product-category/holsters/ hybrid style holster in the mail
(I say style because of shape, the entire holster is polymer). No real wearing time since I have to go to work but, fit and retention is very good, draw and re holstering one handed is simple, decent adjustability for the belt clips. Odd/different shell to backer attachment (pull knob quick release I assume for easy shell replacement or changing to a different model shell) vs standard screw or rivet. Not sure if spendy or normal at base price at 149.99 I'll need some actual carry time to determine how good this holster is. Pic: Rock 5.7 with threaded barrel, optic cut and Holosun 507Kx2  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/5/2022 8:55:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Caseguy]
[#21]
Replying to Swaggerboy:
Does it cycle without the can? Do you have a red dot mounted? I would suggest a tear down, clean and lube, and run a couple hundred rounds through it (no can, no optic) just to break it in. I think others have had initial issues that resolve after a few rounds and clean/lube. |
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Posted: 11/6/2022 11:32:32 AM EDT
[#22]
And keep in mind that Federal American Eagle is the WEAKEST ammo available! The bullet is so short on the bearing surface the casing neck can bearly hold it.
It along with all American produced ammo (except the custom loaders such as Elite) is produced by Fiocchi in Ozark MO…. Federal American Eagle FN SS197 (Blue Tip) Speer Gold Dot |
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Posted: 11/6/2022 5:31:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: towerofpower94]
[#23]
Took the RMR wearing Rock out again on Friday with a mag and a 50rd box of AE FMJ
Put one in the chamber and then a full mag and it ran fine from round 1 to round 24. I let it sit to cool for a bit and did the same thing (one in the chamber and a full mag) for three more rounds and never had an issue extracting/ejecting the first round and chambering the next. This was the issue I experienced last outing, but it seems to have worked itself out. I didn’t clean or lube the pistol since last outing either as it only had ~60rds on it since the last trip. I’ll try it with the handloads again soon, but I’m starting to think maybe it just needed a couple hundred rounds to break in. |
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Posted: 11/6/2022 10:44:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PursuitSS]
[#24]
Damn double tap
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Posted: 11/6/2022 10:44:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PursuitSS]
[#25]
One other thought…MAKE SURE you clean the chamber with either Carburetor Cleaner or Acetone. The ammo no matter what brand leaves a residue in the chamber.
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Posted: 11/8/2022 11:24:43 PM EDT
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Waiting on mine to show up Looking at holsters so curious if you had a chance to ware yours yet? If so impressions?
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Posted: 11/9/2022 2:08:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outlawsix: Waiting on mine to show up Looking at holsters so curious if you had a chance to ware yours yet? If so impressions? I have a IWB holster on order. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 2:49:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outlawsix: Waiting on mine to show up Looking at holsters so curious if you had a chance to ware yours yet? If so impressions? My Safariland for a G17/RMR/X300 fits and retains the RMR and X300 wearing Rock just fine. Shook the shit out of it while upside down and it didn't let go. |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 5:19:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: My Safariland for a G17/RMR/X300 fits and retains the RMR and X300 wearing Rock just fine. Shook the shit out of it while upside down and it didn't let go. What model # holster? |
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Posted: 11/9/2022 6:45:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RDTCU: What model # holster? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RDTCU: Originally Posted By towerofpower94: My Safariland for a G17/RMR/X300 fits and retains the RMR and X300 wearing Rock just fine. Shook the shit out of it while upside down and it didn't let go. What model # holster? 6395 ALS |
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Posted: 11/20/2022 4:56:37 PM EDT
[#31]
  Got a streamlight tlr1 hl, griffin cam lok muzzle device and a cam lok adapter for my silencerco spectre II and I have swapped the sights out with a set of vickers sights I had already. I’m waiting on the red dot to come in and I’m hoping the vickers sights will be usable back ups since they are a little taller than stock sights. So far it is running perfectly with and without the suppressor. |
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Posted: 11/22/2022 6:54:26 PM EDT
[#32]
I ordered one last night with the Holosun scope.
Hope it lives up to expections. However, it is only money. What the hell else are we gun nuts going to do with our money other than buying guns? |
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Posted: 11/22/2022 8:27:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: towerofpower94]
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoVa: https://i.imgur.com/yq3ljJX.jpg https://i.imgur.com/sbaNXJC.jpg Got a streamlight tlr1 hl, griffin cam lok muzzle device and a cam lok adapter for my silencerco spectre II and I have swapped the sights out with a set of vickers sights I had already. I’m waiting on the red dot to come in and I’m hoping the vickers sights will be usable back ups since they are a little taller than stock sights. So far it is running perfectly with and without the suppressor. What’s the story/benefit with the cam lock device for the Spectre II? I’ve run my S2 on my Rock a couple times, but never heard of the cam lock. And what ammo/how many rounds have you put through it so far? |
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Posted: 11/23/2022 6:09:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: What’s the story/benefit with the cam lock device for the Spectre II? I’ve run my S2 on my Rock a couple times, but never heard of the cam lock. And what ammo/how many rounds have you put through it so far? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: Originally Posted By SoVa: https://i.imgur.com/yq3ljJX.jpg https://i.imgur.com/sbaNXJC.jpg Got a streamlight tlr1 hl, griffin cam lok muzzle device and a cam lok adapter for my silencerco spectre II and I have swapped the sights out with a set of vickers sights I had already. I’m waiting on the red dot to come in and I’m hoping the vickers sights will be usable back ups since they are a little taller than stock sights. So far it is running perfectly with and without the suppressor. What’s the story/benefit with the cam lock device for the Spectre II? I’ve run my S2 on my Rock a couple times, but never heard of the cam lock. And what ammo/how many rounds have you put through it so far? Then benefit to the cam lok is rapid donning and doffing of the suppressor, I got the cam lok piston and mounts for my 9mm guns and rugged obsidian first and I was sold on it and I intended to us that on the rock until I realized that pistons and non tilt barrels don’t mix well so I was able to get the griffin cam lok adapter for the specter II and the griffin cam lok muzzle device. Be advised that griffin recommends the use of a shim behind the cam lok muzzle device because the Outter diameter of the rocks thread shoulder is smaller than most 1/2x28 barrels. I have 215 rounds through the rock so far, 200 were American eagle fmj about half of those fired unsuppressed and the other half fired suppressed prior to getting the cam lok upgrade. Since I have switched to the cam lok I have only fired 15 rounds of Speer gold dots just to check the function. I have a red dot coming in this weekend and will get that mounted and zeroed and put a few more rounds down range but so far I have had no issues with the rock. This video will explain cam lok better than I can.  Griffin Armament CAM-LOK™ Universal QD Piston System Tutorial & Overview |
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Posted: 11/28/2022 4:32:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PCB66]
[#35]
I ordered one last Monday and picked it up at the FFL today. Fast processing and shipping considering last week was Thanksgiving.
I mounted the Holosum (407Kx2) with the screws that came with it. It mounted flush and secure. Do we know for sure that the screws are too long or is that something we just suspect? The gun racked OK and dry fired OK. What am I missing? |
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Posted: 11/30/2022 5:11:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PCB66: I ordered one last Monday and picked it up at the FFL today. Fast processing and shipping considering last week was Thanksgiving. I mounted the Holosum (407Kx2) with the screws that came with it. It mounted flush and secure. Do we know for sure that the screws are too long or is that something we just suspect? The gun racked OK and dry fired OK. What am I missing? I used the factory screws to mount 507k on my two PSA Rock’s, several hundred rounds with no issues! |
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Posted: 11/30/2022 5:41:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RDTCU]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PursuitSS: I used the factory screws to mount 507k on my two PSA Rock’s, several hundred rounds with no issues! Maybe it was a newer unit, the 407K i picked up had been on the shelf a while at the local shop. It had obvious interference with the striker housing when installing the shortest screws. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/1/2022 1:49:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RDTCU: Maybe it was a newer unit, the 407K i picked up had been on the shelf a while at the local shop. It had obvious interference with the striker housing when installing the shortest screws. Could you tell by racking it or did you find it out when firing it at the range? |
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Posted: 12/1/2022 3:46:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RDTCU]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PCB66: Could you tell by racking it or did you find it out when firing it at the range? Being somewhat mechanically inclined i found out during installation when the screws met unexpected resistance before bottoming out... It may not have caused functional issues but i figured shoving them a couple mm into the plastic block was not optimal. |
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Posted: 12/2/2022 10:08:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: County804]
[#40]
The screws that are too long are M4 x 8mm. They need to be no longer than 7.1mm. A 7mm long screw would be perfect but it’s not a standard size, especially since the Holosuns use a small head torx screw. So measure your screws and you’ll know if they’re too long.
There are several posts on the PSA Forum regarding this issue. One poster had numerous failures to extract/eject due to the drag on the slide caused by the screws pressing on the striker housing during recoil. Another poster had some small pieces of the striker housing actually broken out by the screws. The easiest way to shorten the screws is to screw them through one of the mounting plates included with your Rock. Then take an M4 nut and run it down the screw locking it against the mounting plate leaving just 1 mm of the threads exposed. Then file down the exposed portion of the screw. This method will protect the unfiled portion of the threads and the mounting plate from damage and if there is any damage to the threads from the filing, unscrewing the nut will repair them. |
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Posted: 12/4/2022 3:53:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: Took the RMR wearing Rock out again on Friday with a mag and a 50rd box of AE FMJ Put one in the chamber and then a full mag and it ran fine from round 1 to round 24. I let it sit to cool for a bit and did the same thing (one in the chamber and a full mag) for three more rounds and never had an issue extracting/ejecting the first round and chambering the next. This was the issue I experienced last outing, but it seems to have worked itself out. I didn’t clean or lube the pistol since last outing either as it only had ~60rds on it since the last trip. I’ll try it with the handloads again soon, but I’m starting to think maybe it just needed a couple hundred rounds to break in. Got the Rock back out today to see if the handloads would cycle. I did another 23+1 setup and the first round failed to eject with the slide barely moving. The next 2-3rds barely cycled with me having to eject the fired cases. I then had a few that ejected the case 10-15ft to the 4oclock, but apparently failed to reset the striker. Pulling the slide to the rear while keeping the loaded round in the chamber and then tapping the rear to ensure it was fully in battery took care of the dead striker. The last 12-15rd a fired, extracted, and fed without issue to slide lock. Ran out of time to put another 50 AE FMJ through it, but I’m starting to think mine is acting like another guys who posted in the Reloading sub forum. It fails to eject until a few rounds warm it up and then it’s good to go. I’ll do another 50rds each of AE FMJ and handloads and if it’s still giving me fits I’ll plan to send it back to get checked out. |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 2:31:25 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: Got the Rock back out today to see if the handloads would cycle. I did another 23+1 setup and the first round failed to eject with the slide barely moving. The next 2-3rds barely cycled with me having to eject the fired cases. I then had a few that ejected the case 10-15ft to the 4oclock, but apparently failed to reset the striker. Pulling the slide to the rear while keeping the loaded round in the chamber and then tapping the rear to ensure it was fully in battery took care of the dead striker. The last 12-15rd a fired, extracted, and fed without issue to slide lock. Ran out of time to put another 50 AE FMJ through it, but I’m starting to think mine is acting like another guys who posted in the Reloading sub forum. It fails to eject until a few rounds warm it up and then it’s good to go. I’ll do another 50rds each of AE FMJ and handloads and if it’s still giving me fits I’ll plan to send it back to get checked out. If you do need to send it back once you test again, just PM me. Thank you, Josiah |
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Posted: 12/5/2022 2:44:49 PM EDT
[#43]
Any word on magazine availability?
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Posted: 12/6/2022 1:03:40 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jhereg: Any word on magazine availability? |
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Posted: 12/6/2022 1:43:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PCB66]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By County804: The screws that are too long are M4 x 8mm. They need to be no longer than 7.1mm. A 7mm long screw would be perfect but it’s not a standard size, especially since the Holosuns use a small head torx screw. So measure your screws and you’ll know if they’re too long. There are several posts on the PSA Forum regarding this issue. One poster had numerous failures to extract/eject due to the drag on the slide caused by the screws pressing on the striker housing during recoil. Another poster had some small pieces of the striker housing actually broken out by the screws. The easiest way to shorten the screws is to screw them through one of the mounting plates included with your Rock. Then take an M4 nut and run it down the screw locking it against the mounting plate leaving just 1 mm of the threads exposed. Then file down the exposed portion of the screw. This method will protect the unfiled portion of the threads and the mounting plate from damage and if there is any damage to the threads from the filing, unscrewing the nut will repair them. I found a couple of M4 screws that were probably 5 mm long. They were on an old set of scope rings. The head is not an exact fit but it is OK. I am disappointed that PSA would send out a firearm/scope combo like that where you couldn't mount the scope with the supplied parts. I wonder if anybody at PSA actually tried out the Rock with the Holosum scope before making the combo available. Over the years I have got a lot of good deals from PSA and I know they try to do a good job so no big deal. Not worth even contacting them about it since I found a fix but I am a little disappointed. |
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Posted: 12/6/2022 1:51:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: towerofpower94]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PCB66: I found a couple of M4 screws that were probably 5 mm long. They were on an old set of scope rings. The head is not an exact fit but it is OK. I am disappointed that PSA would send out a firearm/scope combo like that where you couldn't mount the scope with the supplied parts. I wonder if anybody at PSA actually tried out the Rock with the Holosum scope before making the combo available. Over the years I have got a lot of good deals from PSA and I know they try to do a good job so no big deal. Not worth even contacting them about it since I found a fix but I am a little disappointed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PCB66: Originally Posted By County804: The screws that are too long are M4 x 8mm. They need to be no longer than 7.1mm. A 7mm long screw would be perfect but it’s not a standard size, especially since the Holosuns use a small head torx screw. So measure your screws and you’ll know if they’re too long. There are several posts on the PSA Forum regarding this issue. One poster had numerous failures to extract/eject due to the drag on the slide caused by the screws pressing on the striker housing during recoil. Another poster had some small pieces of the striker housing actually broken out by the screws. The easiest way to shorten the screws is to screw them through one of the mounting plates included with your Rock. Then take an M4 nut and run it down the screw locking it against the mounting plate leaving just 1 mm of the threads exposed. Then file down the exposed portion of the screw. This method will protect the unfiled portion of the threads and the mounting plate from damage and if there is any damage to the threads from the filing, unscrewing the nut will repair them. I found a couple of M4 screws that were probably 5 mm long. They were on an old set of scope rings. The head is not an exact fit but it is OK. I am disappointed that PSA would send out a firearm/scope combo like that where you couldn't mount the scope with the supplied parts. I wonder if anybody at PSA actually tried out the Rock with the Holosum scope before making the combo available. Over the years I have got a lot of good deals from PSA and I know they try to do a good job so no big deal. Not worth even contacting them about it since I found a fix but I am a little disappointed. I wouldn't put this on them. I don't think they can be expected to try every RDS combo on the market to see if their internal design works with the hardware supplied with the exemplar they have at the time. What if they did discover this? Should they have redesigned the slide to be Xmm taller so the screws didn't bottom out? What does that do to the interoperability between it and accessories like holsters and the like. The onus is on us, the end user, to figure out if the stuff we bolt onto our guns helps or hurts. Not trying to cover for PSA, but I think it's a bit of a stretch to put the blame for long Holosun screws on them. |
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Posted: 12/6/2022 1:53:24 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: I wouldn't put this on them. I don't think they can be expected to try every RDS combo on the market to see if their internal design works with the hardware supplied with the exemplar they have at the time. What if they did discover this? Should they have redesigned the slide to be Xmm taller so the screws didn't bottom out? What does that do to the interoperability between it and accessories like holsters and the like. The onus is on us, the end user, to figure out if the stuff we bolt onto our guns helps or hurts. Not trying to cover for PSA, but I think it's a bit of a stretch to put the blame for long Holosun screws on them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: Originally Posted By PCB66: Originally Posted By County804: The screws that are too long are M4 x 8mm. They need to be no longer than 7.1mm. A 7mm long screw would be perfect but it's not a standard size, especially since the Holosuns use a small head torx screw. So measure your screws and you'll know if they're too long. There are several posts on the PSA Forum regarding this issue. One poster had numerous failures to extract/eject due to the drag on the slide caused by the screws pressing on the striker housing during recoil. Another poster had some small pieces of the striker housing actually broken out by the screws. The easiest way to shorten the screws is to screw them through one of the mounting plates included with your Rock. Then take an M4 nut and run it down the screw locking it against the mounting plate leaving just 1 mm of the threads exposed. Then file down the exposed portion of the screw. This method will protect the unfiled portion of the threads and the mounting plate from damage and if there is any damage to the threads from the filing, unscrewing the nut will repair them. I found a couple of M4 screws that were probably 5 mm long. They were on an old set of scope rings. The head is not an exact fit but it is OK. I am disappointed that PSA would send out a firearm/scope combo like that where you couldn't mount the scope with the supplied parts. I wonder if anybody at PSA actually tried out the Rock with the Holosum scope before making the combo available. Over the years I have got a lot of good deals from PSA and I know they try to do a good job so no big deal. Not worth even contacting them about it since I found a fix but I am a little disappointed. I wouldn't put this on them. I don't think they can be expected to try every RDS combo on the market to see if their internal design works with the hardware supplied with the exemplar they have at the time. What if they did discover this? Should they have redesigned the slide to be Xmm taller so the screws didn't bottom out? What does that do to the interoperability between it and accessories like holsters and the like. The onus is on us, the end user, to figure out if the stuff we bolt onto our guns helps or hurts. Not trying to cover for PSA, but I think it's a bit of a stretch to put the blame for long Holosun screws on them. I think it should be on them. They didn't sell it as a gun w/ an accessory optic you can add on. They sold them as gun w/ optic and all the pics show it mounted. If there's a concern about that source the correct screws and include them in the package w/ a note to use them. |
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Posted: 12/6/2022 2:17:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jhereg: I think it should be on them. They didn't sell it as a gun w/ an accessory optic you can add on. They sold them as gun w/ optic and all the pics show it mounted. If there's a concern about that source the correct screws and include them in the package w/ a note to use them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jhereg: Originally Posted By towerofpower94: Originally Posted By PCB66: Originally Posted By County804: The screws that are too long are M4 x 8mm. They need to be no longer than 7.1mm. A 7mm long screw would be perfect but it's not a standard size, especially since the Holosuns use a small head torx screw. So measure your screws and you'll know if they're too long. There are several posts on the PSA Forum regarding this issue. One poster had numerous failures to extract/eject due to the drag on the slide caused by the screws pressing on the striker housing during recoil. Another poster had some small pieces of the striker housing actually broken out by the screws. The easiest way to shorten the screws is to screw them through one of the mounting plates included with your Rock. Then take an M4 nut and run it down the screw locking it against the mounting plate leaving just 1 mm of the threads exposed. Then file down the exposed portion of the screw. This method will protect the unfiled portion of the threads and the mounting plate from damage and if there is any damage to the threads from the filing, unscrewing the nut will repair them. I found a couple of M4 screws that were probably 5 mm long. They were on an old set of scope rings. The head is not an exact fit but it is OK. I am disappointed that PSA would send out a firearm/scope combo like that where you couldn't mount the scope with the supplied parts. I wonder if anybody at PSA actually tried out the Rock with the Holosum scope before making the combo available. Over the years I have got a lot of good deals from PSA and I know they try to do a good job so no big deal. Not worth even contacting them about it since I found a fix but I am a little disappointed. I wouldn't put this on them. I don't think they can be expected to try every RDS combo on the market to see if their internal design works with the hardware supplied with the exemplar they have at the time. What if they did discover this? Should they have redesigned the slide to be Xmm taller so the screws didn't bottom out? What does that do to the interoperability between it and accessories like holsters and the like. The onus is on us, the end user, to figure out if the stuff we bolt onto our guns helps or hurts. Not trying to cover for PSA, but I think it's a bit of a stretch to put the blame for long Holosun screws on them. I think it should be on them. They didn't sell it as a gun w/ an accessory optic you can add on. They sold them as gun w/ optic and all the pics show it mounted. If there's a concern about that source the correct screws and include them in the package w/ a note to use them. Apologies if I missed it, but was this purchased as a Rock and Holosun combo under one item SKU? I bought my Rock as a stand-alone pistol and three extra mags. If it was sold as a combo, with the gun and RDS under one SKU, then I would agree that ensuring the two interfaced without issue is on PSA. |
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Posted: 12/6/2022 2:31:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: Apologies if I missed it, but was this purchased as a Rock and Holosun combo under one item SKU? I bought my Rock as a stand-alone pistol and three extra mags. If it was sold as a combo, with the gun and RDS under one SKU, then I would agree that ensuring the two interfaced without issue is on PSA. I can't address someone else's purchase, but I know my Rock 57 came w/ 1 extra mag and the Holosun under one SKU. The Holosun was in it's own box w/ the mounting hardware. I attached it w/ the shortest screws in the box but it sounds like that might have been a mistake. I've only fired 2 rounds through it so far. One w/ a suppressor and 1 without, but it ran w/ my limited testing. |
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Posted: 12/6/2022 10:34:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: County804]
[#50]
Measure the screws. It has been suggested that Holosun may have substituted a 7mm long screw in the most recent production. The only way to tell is to actually measure your screws. Using a 5mm long screw that doesn’t actually fit flush because the head is larger may not give enough thread engagement to securely Mount the Holosun.
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