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Convo that followed ^that^ pic moved from other thread:
Originally Posted By icemann0:
Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE:
Originally Posted By icemann0:
Riddle me this: Is a Mossberg 500 with an 18-1/2" barrel and a pistol grip and fore grip considered an AOW or just a shotgun? Looks like a Mossberg 500 Marine but with an 18-1/2" barrel. View Quote Should be a shotgun. Is it over 26" OAL? They sold thousands of them like that View Quote It's over 26" for sure. I'm good. View Quote |
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Convo from other thread in response to pic above: |
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• "I like the M4. I point the blasty end at the angry man and the problems go away." - member, 82nd Airborne, AFG •
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I collect C&R AOW's, mainly Handy Guns and Auto Burglar guns
I currently have 6 Auto Burglars and 36 Handy Guns with two more on transfer Attached File |
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"Problem in Venezuela is not that socialism has been poorly implemented, but that socialism has been faithfully implemented."
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Originally Posted By McCoy:
http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx288/McCoy59/DSC07615_zpshqv6jeut.jpg http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx288/McCoy59/DSC07610_zpsvaszxt7m.jpg . View Quote |
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CAN'T SEE SHIII!
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How is that k grip attached to the slide? I have a similar setup, but it uses a picatinny mounted k grip to a small rail portion. I've been looking at modifying some extra k grips I bought to put on my other mossberg shotguns.
Originally Posted By TriggerFish:
The A.A.C.J.D. is now for "boating" too... My oldest NFA/Title II firearm: 12 ga. 8” Mossberg 500 AOW Built by a SOT in WA in July 1989 for the princely sum of $300 – the $5 stamp took 13 months (August 1990) to get back from ATF. Over 3K rounds down the tube. So for its 28th birthday I decided to take it to Robar* for the NP3 treatment… I now have a Mossberg Mini Marine! Great for repelling pirates… or any other varmints. http://i.imgur.com/ODUPTxU.jpg http://i.imgur.com/uXPiwV8.png *A.) I live only 12 miles from Robar B.) I have taken/sent many different firearms to them for NP3 coating over a 25+ year period. View Quote |
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@TriggerFish , you going to let me know how that thing is setup, or keep it a secret lol? I picked up a few mp5k grips and have some mossberg 500/590s and remington 870s that I want to attempt a similar modification on. Is it a through bolt to the block on the end of the action bars?
Originally Posted By Xela:
How is that k grip attached to the slide? I have a similar setup, but it uses a picatinny mounted k grip to a small rail portion. I've been looking at modifying some extra k grips I bought to put on my other mossberg shotguns. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Xela:
How is that k grip attached to the slide? I have a similar setup, but it uses a picatinny mounted k grip to a small rail portion. I've been looking at modifying some extra k grips I bought to put on my other mossberg shotguns. Originally Posted By TriggerFish:
The A.A.C.J.D. is now for "boating" too... My oldest NFA/Title II firearm: 12 ga. 8” Mossberg 500 AOW Built by a SOT in WA in July 1989 for the princely sum of $300 – the $5 stamp took 13 months (August 1990) to get back from ATF. Over 3K rounds down the tube. So for its 28th birthday I decided to take it to Robar* for the NP3 treatment… I now have a Mossberg Mini Marine! Great for repelling pirates… or any other varmints. http://i.imgur.com/ODUPTxU.jpg http://i.imgur.com/uXPiwV8.png *A.) I live only 12 miles from Robar B.) I have taken/sent many different firearms to them for NP3 coating over a 25+ year period. |
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Originally Posted By coctailer:
9mm Gemtech LDE-9 AOW http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x115/coctailer/null-59.jpg http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x115/coctailer/null-60.jpg View Quote There's very little information regarding gemtech lde 9 on the net. Its said that his inventor was Jim Ryan, from gemtech. Jim moved to tacord.com and there's some info regarding its intention to manufacture a new version, but he did not release anything yet. I got some books regarding pen guns. I like to admire the puzzle and beautifulness of each design (reducing its size but keeping it effecttive) and find some designs is more beautiful and clean than others. Between many models available on the market or homemade in several countries, I think that gemtech lde 9 stands above it all, like true piece of art. It's small size, simplicity and the use of a clever inline trigger and firing lock , with no external parts tells much about the designer habilities. |
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There are pages regarding its operation (Google "breachbangclear") but only one video about it in the entire internet, this one:
https://youtu.be/W9ZGiAzqyJw From the video, one can imagine that this pen gun has some kind of detachable firing pin, that goes backward along with the pull ring, but at some stage it suddenly disconnects, going forward and firing the cartridge. The trigger mechanism is not serviceable by the user, so, theres not a single one Photo showing its internal parts on the net. You can imagine that the inventor may used some kind of roller lock to connect the pull ring to the firing pin, like the ones used by quick release keychains like this https://goo.gl/images/o8pDyR It may also use some kind of pull ring trigger, like ones used by fuse igniters, maybe something like this https://goo.gl/images/yX48Pq Anyway, since none of its owner's has ever published a picture of a dismantled gemtech lde-9 (or made a X Ray showing its internal parts) and since there is not a single patent regarding it in the name of its inventor or related companies, the way this beautiful pen gun works remains a total and complete mistery since it's invention. I found this invention really beautiful and clever and would love to know more about the way it works. But it seems that the secret will remain for maaany other years. ATB |
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Originally Posted By amayumi:
There are pages regarding its operation (Google "breachbangclear") but only one video about it in the entire internet, this one: https://youtu.be/W9ZGiAzqyJw From the video, one can imagine that this pen gun has some kind of detachable firing pin, that goes backward along with the pull ring, but at some stage it suddenly disconnects, going forward and firing the cartridge. The trigger mechanism is not serviceable by the user, so, theres not a single one Photo showing its internal parts on the net. You can imagine that the inventor may used some kind of roller lock to connect the pull ring to the firing pin, like the ones used by quick release keychains like this https://goo.gl/images/o8pDyR It may also use some kind of pull ring trigger, like ones used by fuse igniters, maybe something like this https://goo.gl/images/yX48Pq Anyway, since none of its owner's has ever published a picture of a dismantled gemtech lde-9 (or made a X Ray showing its internal parts) and since there is not a single patent regarding it in the name of its inventor or related companies, the way this beautiful pen gun works remains a total and complete mistery since it's invention. I found this invention really beautiful and clever and would love to know more about the way it works. But it seems that the secret will remain for maaany other years. ATB View Quote At least, that's how I'd go about making such a device cheaply, easily, and reliably. |
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That's the beauty of this product.
The mechanism you described is common in igniter fuses, like ump-1 https://goo.gl/images/WR1ChV But this kind of trigger maintain a constant spring tension over the pull rod after fire (lde-9 rod remain free after firing). And this kind of trigger were not (I think, from the diagram), to allow the rod to go forward and catch the firing pin again after percussion cap was fired, since the locking balls has no tension actuating over it to compress it again inside the rod notches. Even if the pull rod had a conical tip, the locking balls won't have nothing to force it again inside the firing pin cylinder. Also, this kind of mechanism seems to demand a bigger body, when the lde 9 remains small and thin. I am not against your idea (the English is not my first language, please sorry!) just explaining what I think (and maybe I am very wrong!!) But it really seems that lde9 has some kind of notch somewhere along its pulling rod. The mistery is how it connects to firing pin not only in a inline manner, but in a way that it can be recocked after firing. Thats what I never saw in another project, even is several kinds of ignitor fuses designs. Atb |
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I need to disassemble a Sedgley and take some photos for you... what you're describing from the LDE-9 is how the Sedgley works, but instead of a separate rod sliding over the cocking/release mechanism, there's a sliding trigger at 90°, doing the same.
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Gemtech LDE-9 9mm AOW Hot linked it for you. That is a slick AOW would like to have one. I really wish someone would start making stuff like this again. With NFA so main stream now I think they would sell well. |
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"The Engine could still smile...it seemed to scare them." -Felix
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An armed society is a polite society.
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"He had the right hand of the devil strapped tightly to his side."-The Last Cowboy
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Originally Posted By AZ_Raptor:
Just got approved Form 1 back for AOW. https://tinyurl.com/y3xydy7c https://tinyurl.com/yyrkfhnu https://tinyurl.com/y4a5utz5 View Quote |
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Originally Posted By pyotr_k:
Wait, what? Where the heck did you get a Triple Threat that had never been stocked? That's awesome! View Quote Two models are available. 12 Gauge = SKU #930170 | UPC #8053800940481 LINK .410 Gauge = SKU #930171 | UPC #8053800940498 LINK |
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Marvelous, thank you! I had zero awareness of their PGO models.
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Stolen Firearm: Colt AR15, Serial # SP342380, 16" carbine. Stolen in California by Kevin Ayres, and taken to Missouri.
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Originally Posted By HK94dude: 183 days https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/53395/IMG_6676_jpg-1577376.JPG View Quote @HK94dude Pull-release firing? Screw breech? I'd love some details on that. I see they have a website - but it must be truly custom since nothing like that is on there. Neat purchase! ETA: I see that thread protector. I bet that's fun - if a bit spicy to fire - with a can. |
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Originally Posted By Third_Rail: @HK94dude Pull-release firing? Screw breech? I'd love some details on that. I see they have a website - but it must be truly custom since nothing like that is on there. Neat purchase! ETA: I see that thread protector. I bet that's fun - if a bit spicy to fire - with a can. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Third_Rail: Originally Posted By HK94dude: 183 days https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/53395/IMG_6676_jpg-1577376.JPG @HK94dude Pull-release firing? Screw breech? I'd love some details on that. I see they have a website - but it must be truly custom since nothing like that is on there. Neat purchase! ETA: I see that thread protector. I bet that's fun - if a bit spicy to fire - with a can. Pull-release firing and screw breach. Sadly I've been working too much the last week and haven't had a chance to fire it yet. w/form 1 pistol can |
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Stolen Firearm: Colt AR15, Serial # SP342380, 16" carbine. Stolen in California by Kevin Ayres, and taken to Missouri.
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Originally Posted By HK94dude: @Third_Rail Pull-release firing and screw breach. Sadly I've been working too much the last week and haven't had a chance to fire it yet. https://i.imgur.com/oqKR3In.jpg w/form 1 pistol can https://i.imgur.com/V6hv33Y.jpg View Quote Simple and clean. Nice! Doesn't look too silly to me - but I love goofy can-to-gun ratios myself. Case in point: |
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Ever see a lion after he eats a zebra? - MrClean4Hire (RIP Brother)
I hate waiting, but I really hate waiting to wait. - sgtgeo (having to wait on a Form 3 before sending a Form 4). |
Just got done with this one for a customer at the shop.
Took an .380 Altor pistol and made a new body for it out of carbon fiber, aluminum and a bit of titanium for the trigger/button. Attached File |
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In a world where humor is forbidden, the clown is a rebel.
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• "I like the M4. I point the blasty end at the angry man and the problems go away." - member, 82nd Airborne, AFG •
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• "I like the M4. I point the blasty end at the angry man and the problems go away." - member, 82nd Airborne, AFG •
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I really want to have my Safety Harbor coated. Part of me wants to do the whole thing in TiN gold.
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BikerNut:
Normal people like motorcycles. Real people like motorcycles. People who don't like motorcycles are just... weird. |
An armed society is a polite society.
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• "I like the M4. I point the blasty end at the angry man and the problems go away." - member, 82nd Airborne, AFG •
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Originally Posted By weapons_free: Just got my first aow. It makes stamp #12. Off to look into arf approved modshttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/326579/PXL_20220622_202452049_MP-2427114.jpg View Quote I switched my rear grip out found it pretty brutal. I really like the loop it had so still need to figure out how to add another. Probably just end up with one that goes in between the grip and gun. |
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BikerNut:
Normal people like motorcycles. Real people like motorcycles. People who don't like motorcycles are just... weird. |
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Ever see a lion after he eats a zebra? - MrClean4Hire (RIP Brother)
I hate waiting, but I really hate waiting to wait. - sgtgeo (having to wait on a Form 3 before sending a Form 4). |
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