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Posted: 4/28/2024 1:16:20 PM EDT
https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-buys-81-soviet-era-145127753.html
The US has purchased 81 Soviet-era combat aircraft from Kazakhstan, the Kyiv Post reports.

Kazakhstan, which is upgrading its air fleet, auctioned off 117 Soviet-era fighter and bomber aircraft, including MiG-31 interceptors, MiG-27 fighter bombers, MiG-29 fighters, and Su-24 bombers from the 1970s and 1980s.
The motive behind the US purchase remains undisclosed, said the Post, but it raised the possibility of their potential use in Ukraine, where similar aircraft are in service.

https://www.defensemirror.com/news/36665

Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:19:56 PM EDT
[#1]
Handing them right over to Ukraine for sure.

And that's cheap!
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:21:42 PM EDT
[#2]
We have a lot here that are government or contractor operated too for adversarial training. Seems like a good deal if they're not total shitheaps.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:22:22 PM EDT
[#3]
CIA can't even hide from yahoo news
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:23:20 PM EDT
[#4]
I doubt many are combat/airworthy for $20k

Spare parts at most.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:24:24 PM EDT
[#5]
More planes for The National Museum of The Air Force.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:25:31 PM EDT
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Handing them right over to Ukraine for sure.

And that's cheap!
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They'll get what they pay for in this case:  The Russian versions of those planes are far superior to these, unless the US plans on financing upgrades in weapons and avionics.

It would be like putting a 1980s Block 10 F-16 up against a Block 72 version.  After 40 years of upgrades they're completely different planes.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:25:58 PM EDT
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I doubt many are combat/airworthy for $20k

Spare parts at most.
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For $20k, that'd be a sweet lawn decoration.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:26:27 PM EDT
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"The equipment is a junk state and cannot be used for it's intended use in it's current form."

Parts birds or airfield decoys.




Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:26:37 PM EDT
[#9]
Red Hats are back, baby!
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:28:23 PM EDT
[#10]
It's a piece of junk.

Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:29:31 PM EDT
[#11]
Now we just need to get those fuckers to stop doing 3rd party chips and technology sales to Russia of things that are sanctioned.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:33:57 PM EDT
[#12]
Out of curiosity what are they upgrading to?  From the article it sounds like they're willing to become closer to the west.  They going to buy f16s? Funny that russian media was already mentioning invading them after Ukraine.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:35:54 PM EDT
[#13]
They are can jets and red air. We have been using them for years.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:40:27 PM EDT
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They'll get what they pay for in this case:  The Russian versions of those planes are far superior to these, unless the US plans on financing upgrades in weapons and avionics.

It would be like putting a 1980s Block 10 F-16 up against a Block 72 version.  After 40 years of upgrades they're completely different planes.
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Handing them right over to Ukraine for sure.

And that's cheap!
They'll get what they pay for in this case:  The Russian versions of those planes are far superior to these, unless the US plans on financing upgrades in weapons and avionics.

It would be like putting a 1980s Block 10 F-16 up against a Block 72 version.  After 40 years of upgrades they're completely different planes.


I saw someone speculate that they were bought to prevent the Russians from getting spare parts.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:41:52 PM EDT
[#15]
$20k? I'd of bought a mig29 or 31, I'd be playing DCS in my front yard right now.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:42:14 PM EDT
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Out of curiosity what are they upgrading to?  From the article it sounds like they're willing to become closer to the west.  They going to buy f16s? Funny that russian media was already mentioning invading them after Ukraine.
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According to this article, they chose the Russian SU-30 back in December 2023.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:43:20 PM EDT
[#17]
Good FPUTINSRUSSIA.

Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:45:17 PM EDT
[#18]
Put fresh batteries and fuel in them and just send it.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:46:06 PM EDT
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That would be a real mistake for Russia.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:46:30 PM EDT
[#20]
Kazakh and Russian relations aren't exactly at an all time high.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:51:25 PM EDT
[#21]
Hmm, it all started with Have Doughnut, then Constant Peg, and a few other variations of "Constant", they should call this one: Constant-Borat.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:52:36 PM EDT
[#22]
Convert to drones. Profit!
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 1:52:39 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/28/2024 2:08:21 PM EDT
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A Mig-31 in the front yard would be the ultimate “keep up with the Jones” move.  
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 2:09:01 PM EDT
[#25]
Russia would grab them if we didn't and Ukraine needs them.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 5:46:36 PM EDT
[#26]
That's quite the bargain.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 5:51:32 PM EDT
[#27]
Not just to give to Ukraine but to prevent them from falling into Putin's hands. He is no doubt desperate for parts if nothing else.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 5:54:54 PM EDT
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Out of curiosity what are they upgrading to?  From the article it sounds like they're willing to become closer to the west.  They going to buy f16s? Funny that russian media was already mentioning invading them after Ukraine.
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Evidently Russia is very concerned about the "Kazakhstan Nazis threat".

One Russian TV commentator, Vladimir Solovyov, said that his country "must pay attention to the fact that Kazakhstan is the next problem because the same Nazi processes can start there as in Ukraine."
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 5:55:36 PM EDT
[#29]
Kazakhstan is the only country besides Russia who ended up with MiG-31 when Soviet Union broke up. Be cool to stick one in a museum.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 5:56:32 PM EDT
[#30]
Wonder how many are currently air worthy. At that price I’m guessing few if any.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 5:59:50 PM EDT
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A Mig-31 in the front yard would be the ultimate "keep up with the Jones" move.  
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MIG-23K in Holt Florida front yard

Google Earth 30 Deg 45' 17.61" N
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Link Posted: 4/28/2024 6:00:15 PM EDT
[#32]
Parts alone are worth $20k, get them flying and even if they are outgunned, good training aircraft.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 6:01:01 PM EDT
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It would be a superior yard ornament 'one upmanship' move.

You still got that old F-body up on cinderblocks in your yard in front of your mobile home?

Well Bubba - Check out my bad boy - Mach 2.8 Mig-31 Foxhound!
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 6:09:23 PM EDT
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Out of curiosity what are they upgrading to?  From the article it sounds like they're willing to become closer to the west.  They going to buy f16s? Funny that russian media was already mentioning invading them after Ukraine.
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Wolves surround them on every side. They also have 3? million military-age Russian refugees with nowhere else to hide and willing to fight against Putin than for him.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 6:10:57 PM EDT
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Convert to drones. Profit!
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/this

I came here to post that.

Link Posted: 4/28/2024 6:20:16 PM EDT
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Now we just need to get those fuckers to stop doing 3rd party chips and technology sales to Russia of things that are sanctioned.
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And quit tossing in the errant wrench into the titanium melt Furnace!
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 6:32:21 PM EDT
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Evidently Russia is very concerned about the "Kazakhstan Nazis threat".

One Russian TV commentator, Vladimir Solovyov, said that his country "must pay attention to the fact that Kazakhstan is the next problem because the same Nazi processes can start there as in Ukraine."
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Russians are nothing if not predictable.

Cookie Monster Rehab - Family Guy HD


Sigh.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 6:34:01 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/28/2024 6:35:40 PM EDT
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We have a lot here that are government or contractor operated too for adversarial training. Seems like a good deal if they're not total shitheaps.
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Yep. My neighbor runs a company that got Su-27s and is working on some more aircraft.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 6:37:40 PM EDT
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A Mig-31 in the front yard would be the ultimate “keep up with the Jones” move.  
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A Mig-31 in the front yard would be the ultimate “keep up with the Jones” move.  


There’s a guy not far from me that has part of a Mig15

Link Posted: 4/28/2024 7:34:41 PM EDT
[#42]
I would want russian nothing in my yard.

Maybe at the local rodeo so people can piss on it.


Link Posted: 4/28/2024 7:38:54 PM EDT
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More planes for The National Museum of The Air Force.
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Why? BATFE confiscates enough planes for them to not have to buy COMBLOC aircraft..
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 7:42:58 PM EDT
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Evidently Russia is very concerned about the "Kazakhstan Nazis threat".

One Russian TV commentator, Vladimir Solovyov, said that his country "must pay attention to the fact that Kazakhstan is the next problem because the same Nazi processes can start there as in Ukraine."
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Out of curiosity what are they upgrading to?  From the article it sounds like they're willing to become closer to the west.  They going to buy f16s? Funny that russian media was already mentioning invading them after Ukraine.


Evidently Russia is very concerned about the "Kazakhstan Nazis threat".

One Russian TV commentator, Vladimir Solovyov, said that his country "must pay attention to the fact that Kazakhstan is the next problem because the same Nazi processes can start there as in Ukraine."


Yep, all them Jewish Nazis are a real threat to the Rodina…
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 7:57:15 PM EDT
[#45]
Load them up with explosives and make them into drones.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 7:59:00 PM EDT
[#46]
So this is like a gun buyback?
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 8:01:50 PM EDT
[#47]
I might do unholy things for a $20,000 MiG29
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 8:04:09 PM EDT
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I doubt many are combat/airworthy for $20k

Spare parts at most.
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USA combat airworthy is a completely different animal than Commie Eastern Block combat airworthy.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 8:07:52 PM EDT
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You might be surprised how cheap things are in Kazakhstan.

My marble floor apartment, with multiple bedrooms, an office, and even a sweet full on sauna...in the most expensive modern place in the country...

Was less than a studio apartment in Virginia. Significantly less.

And you could hire a full-time house keeper for about 150 dollars a month.
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Are we talking LBFM type of  housekeeper or just a housekeeper?
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 8:12:25 PM EDT
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Russia would grab them if we didn't and Ukraine needs them.
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Ukraine has zero use for MIG-31 and MIG-27 parts as they have zero examples.

This was to deny Russia or use as decoys.
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