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So normally I don't give out unsolicited advice while at the gym.
6/7/2012 8:15:26 AM
But these two guys were just too much for me. Both guys looked like they could be strong as an ox, both were probably 250 and big, (not fat) but they were deadlifting about 250-275 and shrugging the weight.
One guy was having a hard time even getting the weight up. His spine was about as bent as a fishing rod so he figures that the problem is that he needs to pull the weight up with a split with the bar about a foot from his shin. My back was just breaking just watching it.
I probably should have kept my mouth shut, but the guy looked like he was getting frustrated so I asked him first why he thought it would be easier to lift the weight of the floor by using one leg instead of two, then I asked him what would make the most sense when it came to pickup up weight..the use of a fishing rod or something more like a ridged crane.
Try as I might I could not get him to understand why the back needs to be held ridged and I wasted my time doing it and probably pissed off the guy and his workout partner, but damn. What he was doing would have made the youtube top teen worst deadlift form videos if I had recorded.
What's interesting about these dolts is they have absolutely no idea what they are doing but some trainer has given them some routine. Between these horrid deadlift/shrugs they were doing something called a drop set (no fucking clue what that is) of leg extentions, then they did some 1/2 squats and inbetween they were doing standing leg curls followed by doing a gazzilion lateral lunges.
Mean while I just squatted, benched and deadlifted and went home.
6/7/2012 8:19:31 AM
6/7/2012 8:24:03 AM
That's some scary shit to see as you know they have enough strength to really hurt themselves and when they do it will be "deadlifts are the debil and they killed my back".
6/7/2012 8:26:07 AM
Originally Posted By GUNGUY148:
That's some scary shit to see as you know they have enough strength to really hurt themselves and when they do it will be "deadlifts are the debil and they killed my back".
That's some scary shit to see as you know they have enough strength to really hurt themselves and when they do it will be "deadlifts are the debil and they killed my back".
Yeah, I was just waiting for a scream of pain while he was trying to shrug weight that he still hadn't locked out.
6/7/2012 8:26:28 AM
6/7/2012 11:03:36 AM
Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:
But these two guys were just too much for me. Both guys looked like they could be strong as an ox, both were probably 250 and big, (not fat) but they were deadlifting about 250-275 and shrugging the weight.
But these two guys were just too much for me. Both guys looked like they could be strong as an ox, both were probably 250 and big, (not fat) but they were deadlifting about 250-275 and shrugging the weight.
One guy was having a hard time even getting the weight up. His spine was about as bent as a fishing rod so he figures that the problem is that he needs to pull the weight up with a split with the bar about a foot from his shin. My back was just breaking just watching it.
I probably should have kept my mouth shut, but the guy looked like he was getting frustrated so I asked him first why he thought it would be easier to lift the weight of the floor by using one leg instead of two, then I asked him what would make the most sense when it came to pickup up weight..the use of a fishing rod or something more like a ridged crane.
Try as I might I could not get him to understand why the back needs to be held ridged and I wasted my time doing it and probably pissed off the guy and his workout partner, but damn. What he was doing would have made the youtube top teen worst deadlift form videos if I had recorded.
What's interesting about these dolts is they have absolutely no idea what they are doing but some trainer has given them some routine. Between these horrid deadlift/shrugs they were doing something called a drop set (no fucking clue what that is) of leg extentions, then they did some 1/2 squats and inbetween they were doing standing leg curls followed by doing a gazzilion lateral lunges.
Mean while I just squatted, benched and deadlifted and went home.
Lol, I've been there...I usually keep my mouth shut, but every once in a while I say something if they're about to injure themselves. Some people...
6/7/2012 12:37:58 PM
Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:
I probably should have kept my mouth shut, but the guy looked like he was getting frustrated so I asked him first why he thought it would be easier to lift the weight of the floor by using one leg instead of two, then I asked him what would make the most sense when it came to pickup up weight..the use of a fishing rod or something more like a ridged crane
I probably should have kept my mouth shut, but the guy looked like he was getting frustrated so I asked him first why he thought it would be easier to lift the weight of the floor by using one leg instead of two, then I asked him what would make the most sense when it came to pickup up weight..the use of a fishing rod or something more like a ridged crane
Just so I can be sure I understand what you're saying, do you mean "rigid", which I understand, or "ridged" as in having a ridge in the back. If it's the latter, please explain what that means.
6/7/2012 12:39:14 PM
Originally Posted By H46Driver:
Just so I can be sure I understand what you're saying, do you mean "rigid", which I understand, or "ridged" as in having a ridge in the back. If it's the latter, please explain what that means.
Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:
I probably should have kept my mouth shut, but the guy looked like he was getting frustrated so I asked him first why he thought it would be easier to lift the weight of the floor by using one leg instead of two, then I asked him what would make the most sense when it came to pickup up weight..the use of a fishing rod or something more like a ridged crane
I probably should have kept my mouth shut, but the guy looked like he was getting frustrated so I asked him first why he thought it would be easier to lift the weight of the floor by using one leg instead of two, then I asked him what would make the most sense when it came to pickup up weight..the use of a fishing rod or something more like a ridged crane
Just so I can be sure I understand what you're saying, do you mean "rigid", which I understand, or "ridged" as in having a ridge in the back. If it's the latter, please explain what that means.
6/7/2012 12:44:38 PM
Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:
Originally Posted By H46Driver:
Just so I can be sure I understand what you're saying, do you mean "rigid", which I understand, or "ridged" as in having a ridge in the back. If it's the latter, please explain what that means.
Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:
I probably should have kept my mouth shut, but the guy looked like he was getting frustrated so I asked him first why he thought it would be easier to lift the weight of the floor by using one leg instead of two, then I asked him what would make the most sense when it came to pickup up weight..the use of a fishing rod or something more like a ridged crane
I probably should have kept my mouth shut, but the guy looked like he was getting frustrated so I asked him first why he thought it would be easier to lift the weight of the floor by using one leg instead of two, then I asked him what would make the most sense when it came to pickup up weight..the use of a fishing rod or something more like a ridged crane
Just so I can be sure I understand what you're saying, do you mean "rigid", which I understand, or "ridged" as in having a ridge in the back. If it's the latter, please explain what that means.
I swear I'm not being a smartass. I'm a long way from being knowledgeable about current strength training terminology. Didn't know if ridged had some particular meaning as regards positioning/angle.
I'm back to more regular strength training since my bout of peroneal tendonitis took me out of my early season main race. Doing general prep work for a fall half marathon. Currently just squatting/benching/pullups, but will probably start adding some deadlifting and possibly some cleans in a few weeks so I want to ensure that I do it right.
That said
6/7/2012 12:46:34 PM
Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:
That's about what I figured.
That's about what I figured.
The movement example is a bicep curl.
6/7/2012 1:43:18 PM
Originally Posted By H46Driver:
I swear I'm not being a smartass. I'm a long way from being knowledgeable about current strength training terminology. Didn't know if ridged had some particular meaning as regards positioning/angle.
I'm back to more regular strength training since my bout of peroneal tendonitis took me out of my early season main race. Doing general prep work for a fall half marathon. Currently just squatting/benching/pullups, but will probably start adding some deadlifting and possibly some cleans in a few weeks so I want to ensure that I do it right.
That said
Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:
Originally Posted By H46Driver:
Just so I can be sure I understand what you're saying, do you mean "rigid", which I understand, or "ridged" as in having a ridge in the back. If it's the latter, please explain what that means.
Originally Posted By VTHOKIESHOOTER:
I probably should have kept my mouth shut, but the guy looked like he was getting frustrated so I asked him first why he thought it would be easier to lift the weight of the floor by using one leg instead of two, then I asked him what would make the most sense when it came to pickup up weight..the use of a fishing rod or something more like a ridged crane
I probably should have kept my mouth shut, but the guy looked like he was getting frustrated so I asked him first why he thought it would be easier to lift the weight of the floor by using one leg instead of two, then I asked him what would make the most sense when it came to pickup up weight..the use of a fishing rod or something more like a ridged crane
Just so I can be sure I understand what you're saying, do you mean "rigid", which I understand, or "ridged" as in having a ridge in the back. If it's the latter, please explain what that means.
I swear I'm not being a smartass. I'm a long way from being knowledgeable about current strength training terminology. Didn't know if ridged had some particular meaning as regards positioning/angle.
I'm back to more regular strength training since my bout of peroneal tendonitis took me out of my early season main race. Doing general prep work for a fall half marathon. Currently just squatting/benching/pullups, but will probably start adding some deadlifting and possibly some cleans in a few weeks so I want to ensure that I do it right.
That said
Oh I know, just kidding...thought of the dog when you said Ridged...
6/8/2012 12:00:37 AM
They are a horrible back injury waiting to happen.
Proper form and all that I could straight leg deadlift around 315'ish lbs for about 5 reps when I was lifting. Straps and form. I always told people to imagen their arm are nothing more than hooks. Back is straight as a plank. Pullup from the heels and squeeze that ass at the top!
Proper form and all that I could straight leg deadlift around 315'ish lbs for about 5 reps when I was lifting. Straps and form. I always told people to imagen their arm are nothing more than hooks. Back is straight as a plank. Pullup from the heels and squeeze that ass at the top!
6/8/2012 7:31:54 AM
6/9/2012 5:58:18 AM
It makes cringe when I see people doing cardio kick boxing.
It seems like they the instructors don't even mention form.
It seems like they the instructors don't even mention form.
6/10/2012 12:58:36 PM
That's sad they are going to get hurt bad.
I am 5'10" 174 lbs and I am dead lifting 335lbs for 5 and about 400 1rep.
And I am not really happy with that yet.
I am 5'10" 174 lbs and I am dead lifting 335lbs for 5 and about 400 1rep.
And I am not really happy with that yet.
6/10/2012 1:26:05 PM
Originally Posted By utb1528:
It makes cringe when I see people doing cardio kick boxing.
It seems like they the instructors don't even mention form.
It makes cringe when I see people doing cardio kick boxing.
It seems like they the instructors don't even mention form.
That would make me very sad too... seeing someone doing "cardio kick boxing".
