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The Official, Third Annual, Which Manager Will Lose His Job First? Thread Post Season!
4/6/2010 7:01:15 PM
A brand new Baseball Season has begun. And with it hopes and dreams of millions of fans across the nation.
However, it is a Given that at least one Manager will be fired. For a Recap go here. Last years "Winner” was the Diamondback’s Bob Melvin 1st, the Colorado Rockies Clint Hurdle 2nd, The Nationals Manny Acta 3rd.
Last year NY Mets manager Jerry Manual got something of a by because of so many injuries to so many players. It’s safe to say he isn’t going to get off so easy this year.
Name your predictions!
The Three Gentlemen wearing Red are expected momentarily:
However, it is a Given that at least one Manager will be fired. For a Recap go here. Last years "Winner” was the Diamondback’s Bob Melvin 1st, the Colorado Rockies Clint Hurdle 2nd, The Nationals Manny Acta 3rd.
Last year NY Mets manager Jerry Manual got something of a by because of so many injuries to so many players. It’s safe to say he isn’t going to get off so easy this year.
Name your predictions!
The Three Gentlemen wearing Red are expected momentarily:
4/7/2010 12:09:55 AM
Unfortunately Ron Washington will probaly take the blame for the Rangers habitual losing this year. Meth doesn't help either, though. 
ETA: hopefully this is not the case, though
ETA: hopefully this is not the case, though
4/8/2010 11:29:56 PM
Yeah, I'll go with Ron Washington. The only way he's gonna save his job this year is by winning a lot of games. If he does get fired, his managerial career is over. Realistically, it's over anyways. The Rangers will be the last club he's gonna manage, IMO. Another team might see him as a base coach, but manager, no.
I don't think New York is gonna realistically go after Jerry Manuel. The media and the fans will, but I think the Wilpons will whack Omar Minaya before Manuel, or if Manuel does go, don't expect him to go alone. No ball club (much less one in the super competitive NL East) can come back after a string of debilitating injuries like the Mets had last year, and the start of this season is kinda shaky with no Beltran, no Reyes, and a starting rotation that's a big question mark after Johan Santana. They're a sloppy, poorly put together team. That's the fault of the front office, not the skipper.
I don't think New York is gonna realistically go after Jerry Manuel. The media and the fans will, but I think the Wilpons will whack Omar Minaya before Manuel, or if Manuel does go, don't expect him to go alone. No ball club (much less one in the super competitive NL East) can come back after a string of debilitating injuries like the Mets had last year, and the start of this season is kinda shaky with no Beltran, no Reyes, and a starting rotation that's a big question mark after Johan Santana. They're a sloppy, poorly put together team. That's the fault of the front office, not the skipper.
4/11/2010 12:17:45 AM
Man there's just nothing you can do with all the injuries the Mets had last year. Ridiculous. New strength coach wouldn't hurt there.
And Wash would make an excellent base coach/infield. He's a good coach, the players love him, but he's put himself in a pickle. We have a playoff-capable team, now he's gotta do his part.
And Wash would make an excellent base coach/infield. He's a good coach, the players love him, but he's put himself in a pickle. We have a playoff-capable team, now he's gotta do his part.
4/20/2010 8:47:33 PM
I'm looking at the Cubs.
Sweet Lou's contract is up at the end of the season.
The team has new owners.
As I type this they are 5 and 8 and in the process of losing No. 9.
My thoughts are: He may last the season, but not get his contract renewed.
4/22/2010 4:51:36 AM
ozzie guillen
4/22/2010 2:54:49 PM
Jerry Manuel is gonna fall like a sack o' taters
4/22/2010 3:20:29 PM
The Orioles picked up Dave Trembley's contract last year. I gotta believe though he's wondering whether he'll last that long.
5/5/2010 9:52:28 PM
Originally Posted By DWFAN:
Jerry Manuel is gonna fall like a sack o' taters
Jerry Manuel is gonna fall like a sack o' taters
Then what the heck are they doing over .500?
I'm enjoying the way they straightened themselves out!
5/5/2010 10:38:17 PM
It's still early in the season for the Mets. Santana showed he ain't invincible the other night versus the Phillies, and everyone other than him and Pelfrey is still a question mark.
If Manuel goes, he won't go alone.
If Manuel goes, he won't go alone.
5/6/2010 7:15:22 AM
Originally Posted By Quintin:
The Orioles picked up Dave Trembley's contract last year. I gotta believe though he's wondering whether he'll last that long.
The Orioles picked up Dave Trembley's contract last year. I gotta believe though he's wondering whether he'll last that long.
Andy McPhail was complaining about the lack of offense, so if Tremblay doesn't light a fire under those guys he could be going before year's end.
5/9/2010 12:32:06 PM
I dunno how long of a rope Ken Macha is gonna have anymore. Brewers pitching is awful, offense is way inconsistent.
5/9/2010 5:28:32 PM
Originally Posted By GiggleSmith:
I'm looking at the Cubs.
I'm looking at the Cubs.
Sweet Lou's contract is up at the end of the season.
The team has new owners.
As I type this they are 5 and 8 and in the process of losing No. 9.
My thoughts are: He may last the season, but not get his contract renewed.
Couldn't agree with you more. Lou's got the face & the mannerisms of a manager who will soon be looking for a job. I don't know if he had a hand in the Milton Bradley fiasco or not, but if he did along with his record could be trouble.
As a side note, went to the Cubs-Reds game in Cincy yesterday & just cannot believe the amount of aggressive vagrants on the streets at night. Jeez...& the Indiana permit isn't good in Ohio.
6/3/2010 10:39:56 PM
It seems like the general consensus in the Orioles organization is that Trembley ain't gonna survive to see tomorrow as manager of their ball club.
Which is too bad. I think he's a good guy at heart, that was given a big steaming pot of shit at the start of the season and he was expected to make that pot of shit into a delectable meal in the AL East. He started out with a bad hand that just got worse with injuries to key pieces to his club.
Which is too bad. I think he's a good guy at heart, that was given a big steaming pot of shit at the start of the season and he was expected to make that pot of shit into a delectable meal in the AL East. He started out with a bad hand that just got worse with injuries to key pieces to his club.
6/4/2010 7:17:21 AM
My guess is, Tremblay will be gone by noon today. It's not going to change a thing, though.
6/4/2010 10:34:42 AM
Originally Posted By jmt1991:
My guess is, Tremblay will be gone by noon today. It's not going to change a thing, though.
We were all wrong:
My guess is, Tremblay will be gone by noon today. It's not going to change a thing, though.
How did we all miss this?
Thu May 13, 2010 7:46 pm EDT
Greinke, Royals win! — Manager Trey Hillman shown the door
By David Brown
Kansas City Royals general manager Dayton Moore's announcement of the firing of Manager Trey Hillman, moments after Zack Greinke(notes) picked up his first victory of the season on Thursday, makes perfect sense.
Even more so when you consider that Ned Yost, who is Hillman's replacement, was fired from his previous managerial job by the Milwaukee Brewers with 12 games remaining in the 2008 season — when the Brewers were tied for the wild-card lead.
Desperate teams do strange things.
The move makes further "sense" because Yost has been waiting in the wings ever since K.C. hired him over the winter to be a special adviser to baseball operations.
Does Hillman (right) look like a guy who was told he's been canned? The pic was taken Thursday; Hillman was given the choice of managing one last game. It's sad and sweet at the same time.
Not so sweet, the state of the Royals. They won Thursday with K.C.'s untrustworthy bullpen actually holding a lead for Zack, but the Royals' 12-23 record puts them dead last in the AL Central. They're bad, even unwatchable — except when Greinke pitches — and everyone knows it. Just last season, they put a multimillion-dollar facelift on Kauffman Stadium, but an awesome giant TV is going to hold people's attention for only so long.
Hillman, who is the first skipper to be fired in 2010, did not appear to be a good manager over his two-plus seasons with the Royals. His lineup decisions have been criticized with reason, his in-game tactics have been criticized with reason, his interpersonal skills the same.
Hillman's most recent big move was to change David DeJesus'(notes) spot in the batting order. All of the Titanic's deck chairs sank, to coin a phrase. You have to be a much better manager than average to survive the crap rosters Moore has provided.
That's why Moore fought back tears at the postmortem press conference — because of what he gave Hillman to work with. At least by firing Hillman, Moore gets to take some heat off himself, his scouting department, all of his departments.
Ned Yost now gets a chance to show if he can grasp the concept of Moore's infamous process.
Good news: Baseball Prospectus ranked the Royals farm system No. 10 in the majors.
So, help might be on the way.
Just not nearly in time to make Trey Hillman a better manager.
KC Manager Trey Hillman 1st place
Orioles Dave Trembley 2nd Place
Last-place Orioles fire manager Dave Trembley
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By DAVID GINSBURG AP Sports Writer
BALTIMORE(AP)—Dave Trembley was fired Friday as manager of the Baltimore Orioles, who have the worst record in the major leagues and are staggering toward a franchise-record 13th consecutive losing season.
Third base coach Juan Samuel was appointed interim manager by president of baseball operations Andy MacPhail, who hired Trembley to take over on an interim basis for Sam Perlozzo on June 18, 2007.
The Orioles opened with 16 losses in 18 games, are 15-39 and coming off an 0-6 road trip in which they were outscored 34-8 in Toronto and at Yankee Stadium.
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“The results on the field were not what any of us would have hoped for, and I understand that the organization felt the time was right to move in a different direction,” Trembley said in a statement. “While I am disappointed at the outcome, I feel it was a privilege to wear the Orioles uniform each day.”
Trembley is the second major league manager to be fired this season. Trey Hillman was dismissed by Kansas City on May 13.
The 58-year-old Trembley had a 187-283 record with the Orioles. As caretaker to MacPhail’s massive rebuilding project, Trembley never had much talent at his disposal, and his job was made tougher this season an expansive injury list, a lackluster offense and an ineffective bullpen.
“We’re the ones that throw the ball, we are the ones that swing the bats and catch the ball,” designated hitter Luke Scott(notes) said Thursday after Baltimore’s 6-3 loss to New York. “All the manager can do is put his best nine out there. I mean, it’s not his fault. What can you say? It’s a very difficult game. It’s unfair in a lot of aspects.”
MacPhail tried to reshape the roster, but after that didn’t work, Trembley was cut loose during the option year of his contract.
MacPhail provided Trembley with his first major league managerial job after Perlozzo stumbled in 2007. Trembley started the season as the team’s bullpen coach after spending the previous 20 years managing in the minors. Upon taking the reins, Trembley became the seventh man in baseball history to manage in the majors without having played professionally.
In August 2007, the interim label was removed.
The Orioles went 68-93 in 2008 and 64-98 last year, finishing in the AL East cellar both seasons. When MacPhail announced last October that the club would exercise the 2010 option on Trembley’s contract, the stipulation was that the rebuilding Orioles must improve.
“You now change the criteria for evaluating managers (to) wins and losses,” MacPhail said at the time. “That may not always be fair. Things happen, but at this point, going forward, I like to think we’re out of that first phase of what we hoped to do.”
Trembley never had a chance, especially after early season injuries claimed leadoff hitter Brian Roberts(notes), outfielder Felix Pie(notes), closer Mike Gonzalez and late-inning relievers Jim Johnson(notes) and Koji Uehara(notes).
Baltimore’s 2-16 start was second-worst in franchise history behind only the 1988 team, which lost its first 21 games.
The Orioles have yet to recover from that miserable April. They are 6-25 on the road, 6-21 within the division and trail the first-place Yankees by 21 games.
Baltimore ranks near the bottom in virtually every AL offensive category, including batting average, runs and stolen bases. The pitching staff has allowed more home runs than any team in the majors except for Arizona and ranks 12th in the AL with a 4.70 ERA.
The makeshift bullpen has more blown saves (10) than saves (9). Converted closer Alfredo Simon(notes), who followed Gonzalez and Johnson in the role, had six saves in seven tries before being placed on the disabled list on May 25 with a strained left hamstring.
Now it’s up to Samuel to try to make something of a season gone awry. He was to make his debut Friday night at Camden Yards against the Boston Red Sox.
The 49-year-old Samuel was a three-time All-Star during a 16-year playing career that ran through 1998. His only managerial experience came in 2006, when he led Binghamton of the Eastern League to a 70-69 record and a second-place finish.
Before that, Samuel served seven years with the Detroit Tigers as a coach. This is his fourth season with the Orioles.
Samuel becomes Baltimore’s sixth manager since 1997, the last time the team had a winning season. He follows Ray Miller, Mike Hargrove, Lee Mazzilli, Perlozzo and Trembley.
Gary Allenson, previously the manager of the Orioles’ Triple-A affiliate in Norfolk, was appointed interim third base coach.
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By DAVID GINSBURG AP Sports Writer
BALTIMORE(AP)—Dave Trembley was fired Friday as manager of the Baltimore Orioles, who have the worst record in the major leagues and are staggering toward a franchise-record 13th consecutive losing season.
Third base coach Juan Samuel was appointed interim manager by president of baseball operations Andy MacPhail, who hired Trembley to take over on an interim basis for Sam Perlozzo on June 18, 2007.
The Orioles opened with 16 losses in 18 games, are 15-39 and coming off an 0-6 road trip in which they were outscored 34-8 in Toronto and at Yankee Stadium.
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“The results on the field were not what any of us would have hoped for, and I understand that the organization felt the time was right to move in a different direction,” Trembley said in a statement. “While I am disappointed at the outcome, I feel it was a privilege to wear the Orioles uniform each day.”
Trembley is the second major league manager to be fired this season. Trey Hillman was dismissed by Kansas City on May 13.
The 58-year-old Trembley had a 187-283 record with the Orioles. As caretaker to MacPhail’s massive rebuilding project, Trembley never had much talent at his disposal, and his job was made tougher this season an expansive injury list, a lackluster offense and an ineffective bullpen.
“We’re the ones that throw the ball, we are the ones that swing the bats and catch the ball,” designated hitter Luke Scott(notes) said Thursday after Baltimore’s 6-3 loss to New York. “All the manager can do is put his best nine out there. I mean, it’s not his fault. What can you say? It’s a very difficult game. It’s unfair in a lot of aspects.”
MacPhail tried to reshape the roster, but after that didn’t work, Trembley was cut loose during the option year of his contract.
MacPhail provided Trembley with his first major league managerial job after Perlozzo stumbled in 2007. Trembley started the season as the team’s bullpen coach after spending the previous 20 years managing in the minors. Upon taking the reins, Trembley became the seventh man in baseball history to manage in the majors without having played professionally.
In August 2007, the interim label was removed.
The Orioles went 68-93 in 2008 and 64-98 last year, finishing in the AL East cellar both seasons. When MacPhail announced last October that the club would exercise the 2010 option on Trembley’s contract, the stipulation was that the rebuilding Orioles must improve.
“You now change the criteria for evaluating managers (to) wins and losses,” MacPhail said at the time. “That may not always be fair. Things happen, but at this point, going forward, I like to think we’re out of that first phase of what we hoped to do.”
Trembley never had a chance, especially after early season injuries claimed leadoff hitter Brian Roberts(notes), outfielder Felix Pie(notes), closer Mike Gonzalez and late-inning relievers Jim Johnson(notes) and Koji Uehara(notes).
Baltimore’s 2-16 start was second-worst in franchise history behind only the 1988 team, which lost its first 21 games.
The Orioles have yet to recover from that miserable April. They are 6-25 on the road, 6-21 within the division and trail the first-place Yankees by 21 games.
Baltimore ranks near the bottom in virtually every AL offensive category, including batting average, runs and stolen bases. The pitching staff has allowed more home runs than any team in the majors except for Arizona and ranks 12th in the AL with a 4.70 ERA.
The makeshift bullpen has more blown saves (10) than saves (9). Converted closer Alfredo Simon(notes), who followed Gonzalez and Johnson in the role, had six saves in seven tries before being placed on the disabled list on May 25 with a strained left hamstring.
Now it’s up to Samuel to try to make something of a season gone awry. He was to make his debut Friday night at Camden Yards against the Boston Red Sox.
The 49-year-old Samuel was a three-time All-Star during a 16-year playing career that ran through 1998. His only managerial experience came in 2006, when he led Binghamton of the Eastern League to a 70-69 record and a second-place finish.
Before that, Samuel served seven years with the Detroit Tigers as a coach. This is his fourth season with the Orioles.
Samuel becomes Baltimore’s sixth manager since 1997, the last time the team had a winning season. He follows Ray Miller, Mike Hargrove, Lee Mazzilli, Perlozzo and Trembley.
Gary Allenson, previously the manager of the Orioles’ Triple-A affiliate in Norfolk, was appointed interim third base coach.
And the race for 3rd place has begun....
6/5/2010 10:30:49 PM
Next? A.J. Hinch.
6/23/2010 8:20:03 PM
Originally Posted By Quintin:
Next? A.J. Hinch.
Next? A.J. Hinch.
Wrong:
Marlins sack Gonzalez
BALTIMORE, Maryland (AFP) – The Florida Marlins sacked manager Fredi Gonzalez Wednesday as Jeffrey Loria, owner of the Major League Baseball team, said: "We can do better and be better."
The Marlins are 34-36 following a win over Baltimore on Tuesday. Florida began the day in fourth place in the National League East division, 7 1/2 games behind first-place Atlanta.
Edwin Rodriguez, who has spent the past 1 1/2 seasons as manager of the minor league affiliate in New Orleans, took over as interim manager.
Bench coach Carlos Tosca and hitting coach Jim Presley were also sent packing.
"We owe it to our fans to put this team in the best possible position to win," Loria said in a statement. "Everyone knows how I feel about winning. That's the reason we're making this change."
In three-plus seasons as the Marlins' manager, Gonzalez was 276-279.
Prior to the 2009 season he was given a contract extension that was to take him through 2011.
Gonzalez became the third manager to be sacked this season. The others are Dave Trembley at Baltimore and Trey Hillman at Kansas City.
The Marlins are 34-36 following a win over Baltimore on Tuesday. Florida began the day in fourth place in the National League East division, 7 1/2 games behind first-place Atlanta.
Edwin Rodriguez, who has spent the past 1 1/2 seasons as manager of the minor league affiliate in New Orleans, took over as interim manager.
Bench coach Carlos Tosca and hitting coach Jim Presley were also sent packing.
"We owe it to our fans to put this team in the best possible position to win," Loria said in a statement. "Everyone knows how I feel about winning. That's the reason we're making this change."
In three-plus seasons as the Marlins' manager, Gonzalez was 276-279.
Prior to the 2009 season he was given a contract extension that was to take him through 2011.
Gonzalez became the third manager to be sacked this season. The others are Dave Trembley at Baltimore and Trey Hillman at Kansas City.
Any bets on 4th place?
6/23/2010 10:43:49 PM
I don't agree with the dismissal of Gonzalez. Inept ownership and a shit team did Fredi Gonzalez in.
Who knows, maybe he'll find his way back into the Atlanta organization if Cox really does hang it up at the end of this season.
And I still think A.J. Hinch is on thin ice. I'll be extremely surprised if he survives the rest of this season.
Who knows, maybe he'll find his way back into the Atlanta organization if Cox really does hang it up at the end of this season.
And I still think A.J. Hinch is on thin ice. I'll be extremely surprised if he survives the rest of this season.
6/28/2010 1:57:44 AM
It's way to early for the Astros to make a crazy move. Mills has a two-year contract and they RARELY toss someone very early (though it's not unusual for them to fire a manager mid-season.)
I really like Mills. I still hope they make a late run this year and are actually in contention next year, but the staff is abysmal and the farm is barren. As long as Mclane is writing the checks I don't think they'll go anywhere.
All that being said, I think Mills will perpetually be on the hot seat.
If he doesn't go this year, I'd like to put his hat into the ring for next year. Probably around All-Star break.
I really like Mills. I still hope they make a late run this year and are actually in contention next year, but the staff is abysmal and the farm is barren. As long as Mclane is writing the checks I don't think they'll go anywhere.
All that being said, I think Mills will perpetually be on the hot seat.
If he doesn't go this year, I'd like to put his hat into the ring for next year. Probably around All-Star break.
7/2/2010 7:24:18 AM
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100701&content_id=11826102&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
Sorry, A.J.
Sorry, A.J.
7/8/2010 9:29:15 PM
Originally Posted By Quintin:
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100701&content_id=11826102&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
Sorry, A.J.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100701&content_id=11826102&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
Sorry, A.J.
And to whom shall 5th Place go to?
7/8/2010 10:01:14 PM
I don't think anyone else is gonna go this year, since just about every team is really playing about like they "should," or about like they're expected to I guess.
But if I were to take a wild ass guess, I'd say Ken Macha is in trouble if the Brewers don't turn the corner hard after the break. The attitude of that team sucks, you can see it in their faces and in their eyes, it's a team full of people who just ain't having fun or enjoying what they're doing. They're playing some really sloppy, piss poor baseball right now, and that usually ain't a good thing for a manager's job security.
Maybe Bruce Bochy too, but I'd go with Macha first.
But if I were to take a wild ass guess, I'd say Ken Macha is in trouble if the Brewers don't turn the corner hard after the break. The attitude of that team sucks, you can see it in their faces and in their eyes, it's a team full of people who just ain't having fun or enjoying what they're doing. They're playing some really sloppy, piss poor baseball right now, and that usually ain't a good thing for a manager's job security.
Maybe Bruce Bochy too, but I'd go with Macha first.
7/19/2010 9:06:19 PM
With The Boss dead, I'm wondering how long the Current Yankee Manager is going to last.
It may be in poor taste, But I think it's pretty safe to say the Yankee Manager's job is safe for a more years than previous times.
7/20/2010 12:11:36 PM
crap wrong thread 
7/20/2010 5:57:32 PM
Originally Posted By Glox:
Couldn't agree with you more. Lou's got the face & the mannerisms of a manager who will soon be looking for a job. I don't know if he had a hand in the Milton Bradley fiasco or not, but if he did along with his record could be trouble.
As a side note, went to the Cubs-Reds game in Cincy yesterday & just cannot believe the amount of aggressive vagrants on the streets at night. Jeez...& the Indiana permit isn't good in Ohio.
Originally Posted By GiggleSmith:
I'm looking at the Cubs.
I'm looking at the Cubs.
Sweet Lou's contract is up at the end of the season.
The team has new owners.
As I type this they are 5 and 8 and in the process of losing No. 9.
My thoughts are: He may last the season, but not get his contract renewed.
Couldn't agree with you more. Lou's got the face & the mannerisms of a manager who will soon be looking for a job. I don't know if he had a hand in the Milton Bradley fiasco or not, but if he did along with his record could be trouble.
As a side note, went to the Cubs-Reds game in Cincy yesterday & just cannot believe the amount of aggressive vagrants on the streets at night. Jeez...& the Indiana permit isn't good in Ohio.
Sweet Lou made it official-he's "retiring".
7/20/2010 9:08:36 PM
Originally Posted By GiggleSmith:
With The Boss dead, I'm wondering how long the Current Yankee Manager is going to last.
With The Boss dead, I'm wondering how long the Current Yankee Manager is going to last.
It may be in poor taste, But I think it's pretty safe to say the Yankee Manager's job is safe for a more years than previous times.
It helps that he won a World Series...
7/20/2010 9:11:56 PM
If the Yankees hadn't at least made it to the ALCS in the Girardi years, yeah, he'd be in danger.
8/9/2010 5:02:43 PM
Originally Posted By GiggleSmith:
http://jaysplace.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/4th-place-kid-demotivational-poster.jpg
Originally Posted By Quintin:
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100701&content_id=11826102&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
Sorry, A.J.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100701&content_id=11826102&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
Sorry, A.J.
http://jaysplace.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/4th-place-kid-demotivational-poster.jpg
And to whom shall 5th Place go to?
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100809&content_id=13232624&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
SEATTLE –– Less than one year after guiding the Mariners to a 25-win improvement, manager Don Wakamatsu received his pink slip late Monday morning.
The first-time big league manager was dismissed, along with bench coach Ty Van Burkleo, pitching coach Rick Adair and Steve Hecht, the team's performance coach.
Daren Brown, who has managed Triple-A Tacoma for the past four years, was named interim manager, and he will call the shots beginning with Monday night's game against the Athletics at Safeco Field.
"I have concluded that these changes needed to be made now and that they are in the best interest of the Mariners as we move forward," general manager Jack Zduriencik said in a release. "Don, Ty and Rick are all good baseball men, and they have done their very best. But we are where we are. I no longer have confidence that Don, Ty and Rick are the right long-term fit for our organization. New leadership is needed, and it is needed now."
Wakamatsu, who was Zduriencik's first manager since becoming GM, piloted the Mariners to an 85-77 record and third-place finish in the American League West last season, which helped remove the sour taste left over from the 101-loss Mariners team from the previous season.
Wakamatsu guided the team with an even-keel approach throughout the 2009 season, but that approach did not work this year.
After losing run-producing third baseman Adrian Beltre and first baseman Russell Branyan to free agency, the Mariners relied on pitching, defense and timely hitting this season. Though the pitching has been solid, the defense has been so-so and the hitting, for the most part, far below what the organization expected, resulting in a 42-70 record.
The Mariners held their own in April, posting an 11-12 record despite not having left-hander Cliff Lee, who spent the first month of the season on the disabled list. But the team struggled in May, going 8-19 to fall into the division cellar, and performed even worse in July, tying a franchise record with 22 losses.
As recently as last week, Zduriencik gave Wakamatsu a tepid vote of confidence, but did not tip his hand one way or another.
Along the way, batting coach Alan Cockrell was dismissed, and icon Ken Griffey Jr. retired following a reported "napping" incident in the clubhouse during a game against the Angels.
There was no immediate word from Zduriencik on plans to permanently replace Wakamatsu and the coaches who were let go.
Roger Hansen, who had been the Mariners' Minor League catching coordinator, takes over as the bench coach, and Carl Willis, who was the Mariners' Minor League pitching coordinator, takes on the responsibility of big league pitching coach.
The first-time big league manager was dismissed, along with bench coach Ty Van Burkleo, pitching coach Rick Adair and Steve Hecht, the team's performance coach.
Daren Brown, who has managed Triple-A Tacoma for the past four years, was named interim manager, and he will call the shots beginning with Monday night's game against the Athletics at Safeco Field.
"I have concluded that these changes needed to be made now and that they are in the best interest of the Mariners as we move forward," general manager Jack Zduriencik said in a release. "Don, Ty and Rick are all good baseball men, and they have done their very best. But we are where we are. I no longer have confidence that Don, Ty and Rick are the right long-term fit for our organization. New leadership is needed, and it is needed now."
Wakamatsu, who was Zduriencik's first manager since becoming GM, piloted the Mariners to an 85-77 record and third-place finish in the American League West last season, which helped remove the sour taste left over from the 101-loss Mariners team from the previous season.
Wakamatsu guided the team with an even-keel approach throughout the 2009 season, but that approach did not work this year.
After losing run-producing third baseman Adrian Beltre and first baseman Russell Branyan to free agency, the Mariners relied on pitching, defense and timely hitting this season. Though the pitching has been solid, the defense has been so-so and the hitting, for the most part, far below what the organization expected, resulting in a 42-70 record.
The Mariners held their own in April, posting an 11-12 record despite not having left-hander Cliff Lee, who spent the first month of the season on the disabled list. But the team struggled in May, going 8-19 to fall into the division cellar, and performed even worse in July, tying a franchise record with 22 losses.
As recently as last week, Zduriencik gave Wakamatsu a tepid vote of confidence, but did not tip his hand one way or another.
Along the way, batting coach Alan Cockrell was dismissed, and icon Ken Griffey Jr. retired following a reported "napping" incident in the clubhouse during a game against the Angels.
There was no immediate word from Zduriencik on plans to permanently replace Wakamatsu and the coaches who were let go.
Roger Hansen, who had been the Mariners' Minor League catching coordinator, takes over as the bench coach, and Carl Willis, who was the Mariners' Minor League pitching coordinator, takes on the responsibility of big league pitching coach.
8/9/2010 9:16:51 PM
Originally Posted By Quintin:
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100809&content_id=13232624&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
Originally Posted By GiggleSmith:
http://jaysplace.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/4th-place-kid-demotivational-poster.jpg
Originally Posted By Quintin:
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100701&content_id=11826102&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
Sorry, A.J.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100701&content_id=11826102&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
Sorry, A.J.
http://jaysplace.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/4th-place-kid-demotivational-poster.jpg
And to whom shall 5th Place go to?
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100809&content_id=13232624&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
SEATTLE –– Less than one year after guiding the Mariners to a 25-win improvement, manager Don Wakamatsu received his pink slip late Monday morning.
The first-time big league manager was dismissed, along with bench coach Ty Van Burkleo, pitching coach Rick Adair and Steve Hecht, the team's performance coach.
Daren Brown, who has managed Triple-A Tacoma for the past four years, was named interim manager, and he will call the shots beginning with Monday night's game against the Athletics at Safeco Field.
"I have concluded that these changes needed to be made now and that they are in the best interest of the Mariners as we move forward," general manager Jack Zduriencik said in a release. "Don, Ty and Rick are all good baseball men, and they have done their very best. But we are where we are. I no longer have confidence that Don, Ty and Rick are the right long-term fit for our organization. New leadership is needed, and it is needed now."
Wakamatsu, who was Zduriencik's first manager since becoming GM, piloted the Mariners to an 85-77 record and third-place finish in the American League West last season, which helped remove the sour taste left over from the 101-loss Mariners team from the previous season.
Wakamatsu guided the team with an even-keel approach throughout the 2009 season, but that approach did not work this year.
After losing run-producing third baseman Adrian Beltre and first baseman Russell Branyan to free agency, the Mariners relied on pitching, defense and timely hitting this season. Though the pitching has been solid, the defense has been so-so and the hitting, for the most part, far below what the organization expected, resulting in a 42-70 record.
The Mariners held their own in April, posting an 11-12 record despite not having left-hander Cliff Lee, who spent the first month of the season on the disabled list. But the team struggled in May, going 8-19 to fall into the division cellar, and performed even worse in July, tying a franchise record with 22 losses.
As recently as last week, Zduriencik gave Wakamatsu a tepid vote of confidence, but did not tip his hand one way or another.
Along the way, batting coach Alan Cockrell was dismissed, and icon Ken Griffey Jr. retired following a reported "napping" incident in the clubhouse during a game against the Angels.
There was no immediate word from Zduriencik on plans to permanently replace Wakamatsu and the coaches who were let go.
Roger Hansen, who had been the Mariners' Minor League catching coordinator, takes over as the bench coach, and Carl Willis, who was the Mariners' Minor League pitching coordinator, takes on the responsibility of big league pitching coach.
The first-time big league manager was dismissed, along with bench coach Ty Van Burkleo, pitching coach Rick Adair and Steve Hecht, the team's performance coach.
Daren Brown, who has managed Triple-A Tacoma for the past four years, was named interim manager, and he will call the shots beginning with Monday night's game against the Athletics at Safeco Field.
"I have concluded that these changes needed to be made now and that they are in the best interest of the Mariners as we move forward," general manager Jack Zduriencik said in a release. "Don, Ty and Rick are all good baseball men, and they have done their very best. But we are where we are. I no longer have confidence that Don, Ty and Rick are the right long-term fit for our organization. New leadership is needed, and it is needed now."
Wakamatsu, who was Zduriencik's first manager since becoming GM, piloted the Mariners to an 85-77 record and third-place finish in the American League West last season, which helped remove the sour taste left over from the 101-loss Mariners team from the previous season.
Wakamatsu guided the team with an even-keel approach throughout the 2009 season, but that approach did not work this year.
After losing run-producing third baseman Adrian Beltre and first baseman Russell Branyan to free agency, the Mariners relied on pitching, defense and timely hitting this season. Though the pitching has been solid, the defense has been so-so and the hitting, for the most part, far below what the organization expected, resulting in a 42-70 record.
The Mariners held their own in April, posting an 11-12 record despite not having left-hander Cliff Lee, who spent the first month of the season on the disabled list. But the team struggled in May, going 8-19 to fall into the division cellar, and performed even worse in July, tying a franchise record with 22 losses.
As recently as last week, Zduriencik gave Wakamatsu a tepid vote of confidence, but did not tip his hand one way or another.
Along the way, batting coach Alan Cockrell was dismissed, and icon Ken Griffey Jr. retired following a reported "napping" incident in the clubhouse during a game against the Angels.
There was no immediate word from Zduriencik on plans to permanently replace Wakamatsu and the coaches who were let go.
Roger Hansen, who had been the Mariners' Minor League catching coordinator, takes over as the bench coach, and Carl Willis, who was the Mariners' Minor League pitching coordinator, takes on the responsibility of big league pitching coach.
With How Many More games to go, what are the chances for a 6th Place Winner?
I'm running out of worthwhile pictures..
8/12/2010 5:58:14 PM
I wonder if Yahoo Sports is reading this thread.
9/2/2010 8:42:17 AM
I'll be extremely surprised if Jerry Manuel is still running the Mets next season.
9/4/2010 6:15:16 PM
Originally Posted By Quintin:
I'll be extremely surprised if Jerry Manuel is still running the Mets next season.
So would I. But that's either Post 2010 Season or Pre 2011 Season.
I'll be extremely surprised if Jerry Manuel is still running the Mets next season.
Somebody care to do a Tween Season Thread????
9/6/2010 3:08:09 PM
I have to say, I am pissed about Wakamatsu getting the boot. That dude is a damn fine manager.
And kudos to Ron Washington for having a great season so far, I honestly thought this was the year for him to get canned!
And kudos to Ron Washington for having a great season so far, I honestly thought this was the year for him to get canned!
10/2/2010 10:09:42 AM
Originally Posted By GiggleSmith:
Somebody care to do a Tween Season Thread????
Originally Posted By Quintin:
I'll be extremely surprised if Jerry Manuel is still running the Mets next season.
So would I. But that's either Post 2010 Season or Pre 2011 Season.I'll be extremely surprised if Jerry Manuel is still running the Mets next season.
Somebody care to do a Tween Season Thread????
Report: Mets Will Replace Omar Minaya, Jerry Manuel at Season's End
Confirming what has long been reported as a likelihood, including here on FanHouse, general manager Omar Minaya and manager Jerry Manuel will not return to their current roles with the New York Mets in 2011, according to a report by SI.com.
The move hardly comes as a surprise with attendance at two-year-old Citi Field sagging and the team, at 77-82, now certain to record its second consecutive losing season, which have come just after two September collapses in 2007 and 2008.
Minaya, who took over the GM job before the 2005 season and agreed to a contract extension in 2008, is signed through the 2012 season and makes about $1 million annually. Though he will not return as general manager, Minaya could consider another role within the Mets organization, and, as SI.com points out, his greatest strength is in scouting.
Manuel replaced Willie Randolph as interim manager in June 2008 and had that tag removed at the end of that season. The Mets have a team option on him for 2011, which of course they will not pick up if he is ousted as manager.
The move hardly comes as a surprise with attendance at two-year-old Citi Field sagging and the team, at 77-82, now certain to record its second consecutive losing season, which have come just after two September collapses in 2007 and 2008.
Minaya, who took over the GM job before the 2005 season and agreed to a contract extension in 2008, is signed through the 2012 season and makes about $1 million annually. Though he will not return as general manager, Minaya could consider another role within the Mets organization, and, as SI.com points out, his greatest strength is in scouting.
Manuel replaced Willie Randolph as interim manager in June 2008 and had that tag removed at the end of that season. The Mets have a team option on him for 2011, which of course they will not pick up if he is ousted as manager.
It doesn't quite make the criteria of this Thread, but it is worth mentioning.
10/4/2010 7:58:10 PM
Jerry Manuel, Mets,
Ken Macha, Brewers
John Russell, Pirates
NEW YORK — The New York Mets, Milwaukee and Pittsburgh gave their managers the boot Monday, firing them after disappointing seasons with underperforming teams.
The mediocre Mets got rid of manager Jerry Manuel along with general manager Omar Minaya after the team's fourth consecutive season in which the high-payroll team failed to make the playoffs.
Ken Macha was officially dismissed by the Brewers after consecutive losing seasons that following their 2008 postseason appearance as the NL wild card.
John Russell was booted by the penurious Pirates after 299 defeats in three seasons, which extended the woebegone franchise's consecutive losing years to a major league record 18.
That raised the total of managers losing their jobs this year to eight.
"The bottom line is to win the games. If you don't win games, they're going to get somebody in there with a different voice and try to get the guys to listen to it," Macha said. "When you get these jobs, it's just a matter of time before there is a change."
Hampered by injuries for the second straight year following a pair of late-season collapses, the Mets finished fourth in the NL East at 79-83, 18 games behind division-winning Philadelphia. That despite a $133 million opening-day payroll, baseball's fifth-highest.
In Manuel's first full season, the Mets were 70-92.
"The last four years have been the most painful to me," Mets owner Fred Wilpon said.
Wilpon said he, son Jeff and team president Saul Katz are not capable of making baseball decisions and the new GM will have full autonomy. The Wilpons insisted Minaya had that autonomy, but agents and team officials throughout baseball have said that Jeff meddles in player-related business.
"Jeff's responsibility is not to pick baseball players," Fred said, while praising his son's work.
Russell was given a stripped-down roster, then blamed for records of 67-95 in 2008, 62-99 in 2009 and 57-105 this season. The only other manager in the Pirates' 124-season history with so many losses in so few seasons was Fred Haney, who was 163-299 from 1953-55.
Pittsburgh's payroll was a big league-low $35 million at the start of the season.
"We asked John Russell and his staff to compete against some incredible odds," general manager Neal Huntington said. "We've turned the club over in three years. I'm not shy about taking responsibility for the record. It's not the manager's record. The won-lost record at the major league level goes beyond just the manager.
The 60-year-old Macha was 157-167 in two losing seasons. He took over the Brewers without CC Sabathia and Ben Sheets, who left as free agents.
"I just told him that we felt we didn't win here, we didn't meet our expectations and whether our expectations are realistic or not, that's probably what we have to look at," general manager Doug Melvin said. "I think he understood and then got in his car and headed home."
In other moves:
_Cincinnati gave manager Dusty Baker a two-year contract extension through 2012 after the Reds reached the playoffs for the first time in 15 years.
_Arizona gave interim manager Kirk Gibson the permanent job, and said interim GM Jerry Dipoto will be vice president of scouting and player development under new GM Kevin Towers.
_Cleveland completed its front office transition by promoting GM Mark Shapiro to team president and promoting assistant GM Chris Antonetti to GM.
As for me,I'd like to know who the next Dave Trembley is going to be. Rehired last year after some fanfare, but was one of the first to go this year.
