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Aaron Rodgers: One of the Best QB Performances In SB History?
2/7/2011 4:00:39 PM
Stat line: 24 / 39, 61% Completion, 304 Yards, 3 TD, 112 QB Rating
I don't like to play the what-if game... But just look at the incomplete passes. IIRC there were six drops which would have put his completion percentage to 76%, and could have easily added another 100ish yards and a TD. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying "pretend those guys actually caught the ball and lets pretend Aaron threw for 400 yards 4 TD". I just wanted to point out where some of his "mistakes" were, and that they really weren't his fault.
He is only the 4th QB in NFL History (J. Delhomme, S. Young, J. Montana) to throw for 300 Yards, 3 TD, 0 INT in the Super Bowl. And... He did all of this against a Dick LeBeau defense.
ProFootballFocus' grade:
Don't get me wrong, it was a great team performance. His defense played absolutely tremendous for the most part, and he didn't have to win the game for the team, which was good.
I don't like to play the what-if game... But just look at the incomplete passes. IIRC there were six drops which would have put his completion percentage to 76%, and could have easily added another 100ish yards and a TD. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying "pretend those guys actually caught the ball and lets pretend Aaron threw for 400 yards 4 TD". I just wanted to point out where some of his "mistakes" were, and that they really weren't his fault.
He is only the 4th QB in NFL History (J. Delhomme, S. Young, J. Montana) to throw for 300 Yards, 3 TD, 0 INT in the Super Bowl. And... He did all of this against a Dick LeBeau defense.
ProFootballFocus' grade:
And Aaron Rodgers showed with little doubt that he was the best player of the 2010 season, flashing a +10.6 rating that was the best of the postseason and one of the best all year.
Where else can you start? Aaron Rodgers (+10.6) did nearly everything right, even when those around him had their basic motor skills fail them. Rodgers threw the ball 38 times and threw only four bad passes. Just four. Wow. One overthrow, one bad decision, one underthrow and one throw behind his receiver. Everything else was pretty much on the money, including some of the most beautiful throws you’ll ever see. That’s what it takes to earn an MVP and win a Super Bowl.
Where else can you start? Aaron Rodgers (+10.6) did nearly everything right, even when those around him had their basic motor skills fail them. Rodgers threw the ball 38 times and threw only four bad passes. Just four. Wow. One overthrow, one bad decision, one underthrow and one throw behind his receiver. Everything else was pretty much on the money, including some of the most beautiful throws you’ll ever see. That’s what it takes to earn an MVP and win a Super Bowl.
Don't get me wrong, it was a great team performance. His defense played absolutely tremendous for the most part, and he didn't have to win the game for the team, which was good.
2/7/2011 4:02:30 PM
I'll agree.
2/7/2011 4:11:39 PM
The Defense pulled our ass out of the fire. There was way to many dropped pass
2/7/2011 7:54:48 PM
Aaron Rodgers was not the MVP.
Had he completed a TD pass in the final minutes to seal the game he would have been the MVP in my opinion. Instead, it was the Packers defense.
It was Clay Matthews that came up with the biggest play. It was the packers 3 forced turnovers that won the game.
If Clay Matthews doesn't force the Mendenhall fumble, the Steelers win in my opinion.
Had he completed a TD pass in the final minutes to seal the game he would have been the MVP in my opinion. Instead, it was the Packers defense.
It was Clay Matthews that came up with the biggest play. It was the packers 3 forced turnovers that won the game.
If Clay Matthews doesn't force the Mendenhall fumble, the Steelers win in my opinion.
2/7/2011 9:26:10 PM
Aaron Rodgers played a near flawless game, the drops were right on the numbers everytime except for the last 3rd down pass in the endzone, which was still catchable.
Like the OP said, he could have EASILY had 400+ yards and even 5 TDs imo
They wouldn't have even needed to be in the position for Clay Matthews to force the fumble if it wasn't for the dropped passes.
Like the OP said, he could have EASILY had 400+ yards and even 5 TDs imo
They wouldn't have even needed to be in the position for Clay Matthews to force the fumble if it wasn't for the dropped passes.
2/7/2011 9:36:48 PM
Originally Posted By Joedan:
Aaron Rodgers played a near flawless game, the drops were right on the numbers everytime except for the last 3rd down pass in the endzone, which was still catchable.
Like the OP said, he could have EASILY had 400+ yards and even 5 TDs imo
They wouldn't have even needed to be in the position for Clay Matthews to force the fumble if it wasn't for the dropped passes.
Aaron Rodgers played a near flawless game, the drops were right on the numbers everytime except for the last 3rd down pass in the endzone, which was still catchable.
Like the OP said, he could have EASILY had 400+ yards and even 5 TDs imo
They wouldn't have even needed to be in the position for Clay Matthews to force the fumble if it wasn't for the dropped passes.
Maybe, but they didn't and Matthews did.
Packers D won the game. Rodgers played well, don't get me wrong.
2/8/2011 9:05:13 AM
Originally Posted By mtechgunman:
Aaron Rodgers was not the MVP.
Had he completed a TD pass in the final minutes to seal the game he would have been the MVP in my opinion. Instead, it was the Packers defense.
It was Clay Matthews that came up with the biggest play. It was the packers 3 forced turnovers that won the game.
If Clay Matthews doesn't force the Mendenhall fumble, the Steelers win in my opinion.
Aaron Rodgers was not the MVP.
Had he completed a TD pass in the final minutes to seal the game he would have been the MVP in my opinion. Instead, it was the Packers defense.
It was Clay Matthews that came up with the biggest play. It was the packers 3 forced turnovers that won the game.
If Clay Matthews doesn't force the Mendenhall fumble, the Steelers win in my opinion.
Well then the argument comes up of what do you define as the MVP?
Apparently you think that it should be given to the guy who made the biggest play of the game. I respect that, and while the QB is the easiest position to default the award to, I think it should be given to the quarterback who out of 39 passes, only made FOUR bad throws. And as I said earlier, against a Dick LeBeau, very very good Pittsburgh defense.
I love Clay Matthews, and he's probably up there with my favorite players that's not on Dallas, but if Rodgers isn't playing QB, Packers aren't putting up 31 points.
2/8/2011 12:41:40 PM
Matthews was hands down the MVP. Obviously the OP has a love affair with Rodgers.
2/9/2011 12:03:07 AM
Originally Posted By Maverick91:
Well then the argument comes up of what do you define as the MVP?
Apparently you think that it should be given to the guy who made the biggest play of the game. I respect that, and while the QB is the easiest position to default the award to, I think it should be given to the quarterback who out of 39 passes, only made FOUR bad throws. And as I said earlier, against a Dick LeBeau, very very good Pittsburgh defense.
I love Clay Matthews, and he's probably up there with my favorite players that's not on Dallas, but if Rodgers isn't playing QB, Packers aren't putting up 31 points.
Originally Posted By mtechgunman:
Aaron Rodgers was not the MVP.
Had he completed a TD pass in the final minutes to seal the game he would have been the MVP in my opinion. Instead, it was the Packers defense.
It was Clay Matthews that came up with the biggest play. It was the packers 3 forced turnovers that won the game.
If Clay Matthews doesn't force the Mendenhall fumble, the Steelers win in my opinion.
Aaron Rodgers was not the MVP.
Had he completed a TD pass in the final minutes to seal the game he would have been the MVP in my opinion. Instead, it was the Packers defense.
It was Clay Matthews that came up with the biggest play. It was the packers 3 forced turnovers that won the game.
If Clay Matthews doesn't force the Mendenhall fumble, the Steelers win in my opinion.
Well then the argument comes up of what do you define as the MVP?
Apparently you think that it should be given to the guy who made the biggest play of the game. I respect that, and while the QB is the easiest position to default the award to, I think it should be given to the quarterback who out of 39 passes, only made FOUR bad throws. And as I said earlier, against a Dick LeBeau, very very good Pittsburgh defense.
I love Clay Matthews, and he's probably up there with my favorite players that's not on Dallas, but if Rodgers isn't playing QB, Packers aren't putting up 31 points.
I think you're missing the point.
Absolutely none of what Rodgers did would have been possible if it wasn't for the Packers Defense. Take one of those turnovers back and Steelers win.
Rodgers had nothing to do with those takeaways. Someone from the Packers D was the MVP, and in my opinion- it was Matthews. Not only did he come up with the biggest play, Rodgers couldn't close the door when it mattered most.
2/9/2011 12:04:26 AM
It's not always about stats. Sure, Rodgers threw and called a helluva game, but that's only part of the story. The impact the Packers Defense made was the difference in the ball game. The impact Clay Matthews had, was the defining point in Superbowl 45.
2/9/2011 8:43:35 AM
Originally Posted By mtechgunman:
It's not always about stats. Sure, Rodgers threw and called a helluva game, but that's only part of the story. The impact the Packers Defense made was the difference in the ball game. The impact Clay Matthews had, was the defining point in Superbowl 45.
It's not always about stats. Sure, Rodgers threw and called a helluva game, but that's only part of the story. The impact the Packers Defense made was the difference in the ball game. The impact Clay Matthews had, was the defining point in Superbowl 45.
Agreed 100% and I'm not even a Packers fan. I am so sick and tired of the pretty boy quarterbacks getting all the glory. There's at least 21 other guys playing the damn game too and that's not counting special teams.
2/9/2011 11:48:36 AM
The only problem is the defense is too broad. If you put Clay Matthews up then what about Nick Collins with the pick 6? If you could put the defense or offense up that would be a different story, but Rodgers was on point that entire game. If he had thrown a pick or something it probably would've been a different story. You can't argue with 3 tds 300 yards 0 ints in the Superbowl against one of the best defenses in the league.
2/9/2011 1:22:46 PM
Originally Posted By Sandman67:
Agreed 100% and I'm not even a Packers fan. I am so sick and tired of the pretty boy quarterbacks getting all the glory. There's at least 21 other guys playing the damn game too and that's not counting special teams.
Originally Posted By mtechgunman:
It's not always about stats. Sure, Rodgers threw and called a helluva game, but that's only part of the story. The impact the Packers Defense made was the difference in the ball game. The impact Clay Matthews had, was the defining point in Superbowl 45.
It's not always about stats. Sure, Rodgers threw and called a helluva game, but that's only part of the story. The impact the Packers Defense made was the difference in the ball game. The impact Clay Matthews had, was the defining point in Superbowl 45.
Agreed 100% and I'm not even a Packers fan. I am so sick and tired of the pretty boy quarterbacks getting all the glory. There's at least 21 other guys playing the damn game too and that's not counting special teams.
Yep the Packers Defense as a whole should have gotten the MVP.
Getting tired of the qb's getting all the glory.
Yes Rogers did have a good game but how about the defense with losing 2 starters and still holding the Steelers.
Big Steeler fan here.
2/9/2011 8:27:56 PM
Originally Posted By mtechgunman:
I think you're missing the point.
Absolutely none of what Rodgers did would have been possible if it wasn't for the Packers Defense. Take one of those turnovers back and Steelers win.
Rodgers had nothing to do with those takeaways. Someone from the Packers D was the MVP, and in my opinion- it was Matthews. Not only did he come up with the biggest play, Rodgers couldn't close the door when it mattered most.
Originally Posted By Maverick91:
Well then the argument comes up of what do you define as the MVP?
Apparently you think that it should be given to the guy who made the biggest play of the game. I respect that, and while the QB is the easiest position to default the award to, I think it should be given to the quarterback who out of 39 passes, only made FOUR bad throws. And as I said earlier, against a Dick LeBeau, very very good Pittsburgh defense.
I love Clay Matthews, and he's probably up there with my favorite players that's not on Dallas, but if Rodgers isn't playing QB, Packers aren't putting up 31 points.
Originally Posted By mtechgunman:
Aaron Rodgers was not the MVP.
Had he completed a TD pass in the final minutes to seal the game he would have been the MVP in my opinion. Instead, it was the Packers defense.
It was Clay Matthews that came up with the biggest play. It was the packers 3 forced turnovers that won the game.
If Clay Matthews doesn't force the Mendenhall fumble, the Steelers win in my opinion.
Aaron Rodgers was not the MVP.
Had he completed a TD pass in the final minutes to seal the game he would have been the MVP in my opinion. Instead, it was the Packers defense.
It was Clay Matthews that came up with the biggest play. It was the packers 3 forced turnovers that won the game.
If Clay Matthews doesn't force the Mendenhall fumble, the Steelers win in my opinion.
Well then the argument comes up of what do you define as the MVP?
Apparently you think that it should be given to the guy who made the biggest play of the game. I respect that, and while the QB is the easiest position to default the award to, I think it should be given to the quarterback who out of 39 passes, only made FOUR bad throws. And as I said earlier, against a Dick LeBeau, very very good Pittsburgh defense.
I love Clay Matthews, and he's probably up there with my favorite players that's not on Dallas, but if Rodgers isn't playing QB, Packers aren't putting up 31 points.
I think you're missing the point.
Absolutely none of what Rodgers did would have been possible if it wasn't for the Packers Defense. Take one of those turnovers back and Steelers win.
Rodgers had nothing to do with those takeaways. Someone from the Packers D was the MVP, and in my opinion- it was Matthews. Not only did he come up with the biggest play, Rodgers couldn't close the door when it mattered most.
Funny enough, this topic wasn't even about Rodgers being the MVP of the game.
But since we're down that path...
Originally Posted By Joedan:
The only problem is the defense is too broad. If you put Clay Matthews up then what about Nick Collins with the pick 6? If you could put the defense or offense up that would be a different story, but Rodgers was on point that entire game. If he had thrown a pick or something it probably would've been a different story. You can't argue with 3 tds 300 yards 0 ints in the Superbowl against one of the best defenses in the league.
The only problem is the defense is too broad. If you put Clay Matthews up then what about Nick Collins with the pick 6? If you could put the defense or offense up that would be a different story, but Rodgers was on point that entire game. If he had thrown a pick or something it probably would've been a different story. You can't argue with 3 tds 300 yards 0 ints in the Superbowl against one of the best defenses in the league.
This right here solidifies my argument, along with my posts, that Rodgers should be MVP. IIRC, Matthews' stats were 2 Tackles, 1 Forced Fumble, and 2 QB Hits. Does that warrant the MVP? I'll agree that if you look past the stats, Matthews made the biggest play of the game. But in the same breathe, Rodgers was practically flawless. I know you hate stats, but you can't ignore that Aaron turned the ball over ZERO times - which is huge.
You knocked him for not being able to score a TD on their final drive. I searched on Youtube for footage of the drive, and Rodgers marches the Packers down the field from about their own 20. First and goal, a short slant route was called and Rodgers completed it. Second down, McCarthy ran a quick screen pass, Rodgers completed it. Third down, Jordy Nelson dropped a perfectly thrown ball by Aaron for a TD.
Rodgers didn't do anything wrong and if you want me looking past the stats while deciding if Matthews should be MVP, then even with the amazing stats Aaron put up - I suggest you do the same for him.
2/28/2011 2:21:39 AM
Originally Posted By Sandman67:
Matthews was hands down the MVP. Obviously the OP has a love affair with Rodgers.
Matthews was hands down the MVP. Obviously the OP has a love affair with Rodgers.
whoa I came in here to read about football, instead I stumbled upon a bromance......
