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Bassgasm  [Team Member]
5/2/2012 11:17:18 PM
Today, I got word that my rifle is en route to my local gun shop.

I'm no expert on optics, so I figure I'd ask for some suggestions.

The basic criteria I'm considering:
-At least 6x magnification
-Some form of mil-dot or BDC reticle
-A price tag that preferably does not exceed $300.

Suggestions?
Fat_McNasty  [Team Member]
5/2/2012 11:20:11 PM
tasco or ncstar
FluffyTheCat  [Team Member]
5/2/2012 11:43:28 PM
Listen up and don't be a schmoe.

You have chosen a very nice hunting rifle and you don't want to mess it up with the wrong scope. First of all, target knobs and mil dots belong on long range target type rifles. You have a hunting rifle and you need a scope that does not detract from your rifle's function as a hunting rifle.

A hunting rifle must be well balanced and portable. It is a big mistake to seat Mount Palomar onto your rifle. Instead you want a proper gun sight. Now when I say "a gun sight", I mean your scope must function first and foremost as a gun sight. Bright, sharp optics are fine, but will the scope hold zero? A proper gun sight holds zero and you should never overlook this.

Next of all, high magnification is over rated. In a hunting rifle, lower magnification is actually better because lower magnification gives you a wider field of view. Leupold makes some nice variable scopes such as a 1.5-5X. Now that would be a cool scope. Of course with a 3-9 variable you would do well with a Zeiss Conquest. But then again, a fixed 4 power will work very well also.

My friend has a fixed 4 power IOR scope that has shockingly bright optics. It holds zero and is a wonderful hunting scope.

The IOR fixed 4 power scope is available from Midway and it is just what you need on your rifle. It is even in your price range.
Poodleshooter  [Member]
5/2/2012 11:56:18 PM
Vortex viper 3-9x 40mm (pre HS or PST model).
They're still available around $300 at cameraland. I belive they also have Minox Z3 3-9x models for around that price as well.

A Burris Fullfield E1 3-9x 40mm would be another decent scope in that price range, and is available from far more vendors.

There's plenty of other good 3-9x scopes in that price range with good glass, solid,repeatable adjustments and good warranties. A 3-9x at that price point gives quite a bit of basic scope value, and is very versatile.
Bassgasm  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 12:05:25 AM

Originally Posted By FluffyTheCat:
Listen up and don't be a schmoe.

You have chosen a very nice hunting rifle and you don't want to mess it up with the wrong scope. First of all, target knobs and mil dots belong on long range target type rifles. You have a hunting rifle and you need a scope that does not detract from your rifle's function as a hunting rifle.

A hunting rifle must be well balanced and portable. It is a big mistake to seat Mount Palomar onto your rifle. Instead you want a proper gun sight. Now when I say "a gun sight", I mean your scope must function first and foremost as a gun sight. Bright, sharp optics are fine, but will the scope hold zero? A proper gun sight holds zero and you should never overlook this.

Next of all, high magnification is over rated. In a hunting rifle, lower magnification is actually better because lower magnification gives you a wider field of view. Leupold makes some nice variable scopes such as a 1.5-5X. Now that would be a cool scope. Of course with a 3-9 variable you would do well with a Zeiss Conquest. But then again, a fixed 4 power will work very well also.

My friend has a fixed 4 power IOR scope that has shockingly bright optics. It holds zero and is a wonderful hunting scope.

The IOR fixed 4 power scope is available from Midway and it is just what you need on your rifle. It is even in your price range.

How about this?

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/716760/leupold-vx-1-rifle-scope-3-9x-40mm-lr-duplex-reticle-matte
Fat_McNasty  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 12:07:02 AM
this..

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/130994/leupold-vx-3-rifle-scope-35-10x-40mm-duplex-reticle-matte
TheOtherDave  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 1:25:10 AM
Originally Posted By Bassgasm:
Today, I got word that my rifle is en route to my local gun shop.

I'm no expert on optics, so I figure I'd ask for some suggestions.

The basic criteria I'm considering:
-At least 6x magnification
-Some form of mil-dot or BDC reticle
-A price tag that preferably does not exceed $300.

Suggestions?


This one is a no-brainer-you want a Shepherd Scope. They have a BDC reticle that works like an ACOG (a bit better actually) as well as windage and elevation stadia. These are 3-10 power scopes, they are American made and built well.
Kid_Sampson  [Member]
5/3/2012 1:28:18 AM
Leupold VX-I or VX-II.

They really are great scopes, I got about 5 Leupold in my safe right now, and they all perform well. I also like the fact that they are designed AND made in the USA.
Bassgasm  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 11:35:04 AM

Originally Posted By TheOtherDave:
Originally Posted By Bassgasm:
Today, I got word that my rifle is en route to my local gun shop.

I'm no expert on optics, so I figure I'd ask for some suggestions.

The basic criteria I'm considering:
-At least 6x magnification
-Some form of mil-dot or BDC reticle
-A price tag that preferably does not exceed $300.

Suggestions?


This one is a no-brainer-you want a Shepherd Scope. They have a BDC reticle that works like an ACOG (a bit better actually) as well as windage and elevation stadia. These are 3-10 power scopes, they are American made and built well.

All of the Shepherds I'm seeing on MidwayUSA are $800+.
bradpierson26  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 11:44:12 AM
I love my Zeiss Conquest on my .30-06 but you couldn't afford one in that price range.
I'd look for a Nikon
TheOtherDave  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 12:29:16 PM
Originally Posted By Bassgasm:

Originally Posted By TheOtherDave:
Originally Posted By Bassgasm:
Today, I got word that my rifle is en route to my local gun shop.

I'm no expert on optics, so I figure I'd ask for some suggestions.

The basic criteria I'm considering:
-At least 6x magnification
-Some form of mil-dot or BDC reticle
-A price tag that preferably does not exceed $300.

Suggestions?


This one is a no-brainer-you want a Shepherd Scope. They have a BDC reticle that works like an ACOG (a bit better actually) as well as windage and elevation stadia. These are 3-10 power scopes, they are American made and built well.

All of the Shepherds I'm seeing on MidwayUSA are $800+.


You can find them occasionally for $700, buy once/cry once.

I had one on a rifle that was stolen, I paid $600 back in '04 and want to replace it.... think how I feel!
USC45  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 12:31:31 PM
I put a Leupold Boone's and Crockett 1.5-6X on mine. I like it.
samurai77  [Member]
5/3/2012 12:37:41 PM
Another vote for Leupold. I have a Leupold Rifleman on my 30-06. I love it.
swede1986  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 12:38:50 PM
Don't cheap out when it comes to optics. What's the point of a nice rifle if you put a shitty scope on it?
Furyataurus  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 12:38:50 PM
Vortex.
littlebeavis  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 12:44:22 PM
Zeiss Conquest
VTHOKIESHOOTER  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 12:48:50 PM

Originally Posted By Bassgasm:
Today, I got word that my rifle is en route to my local gun shop.

I'm no expert on optics, so I figure I'd ask for some suggestions.

The basic criteria I'm considering:
-At least 6x magnification
-Some form of mil-dot or BDC reticle
-A price tag that preferably does not exceed $300.

Suggestions?
What are you going to do with the rifle? Honestly, I think BDC reticles suck. There's so many loads and variability that the BDC hardly ever works. If you don't plan on shooting out past 300-350 hards, then mil-dots will also be pointless. You are better off in spending $350-$400 on a good mid range Leupold or Nikon without any frills.

FRCA_WY  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 12:53:47 PM
Originally Posted By Bassgasm:
Today, I got word that my rifle is en route to my local gun shop.

I'm no expert on optics, so I figure I'd ask for some suggestions.

The basic criteria I'm considering:
-At least 6x magnification
-Some form of mil-dot or BDC reticle
-A price tag that preferably does not exceed $300.

Suggestions?


Here ya go: http://muelleroptics.com/mtac31044

good glass,enough internal adjustment to get a 308 to 1k,and priced right. Yes I have one,and yes I have used it from hunting to shooting 1k. Great all around scope,especially for the $$.

VA-Rifleman  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 12:56:34 PM


This is the answer. Don't cheap out on optics.
Kid_Sampson  [Member]
5/3/2012 1:10:40 PM
Originally Posted By littlebeavis:
Zeiss Conquest


If OP is willing to shell out the extra $150, then this is also a very good choice.
offctr  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 5:31:54 PM
Originally Posted By Bassgasm:

Originally Posted By FluffyTheCat:
Listen up and don't be a schmoe.

You have chosen a very nice hunting rifle and you don't want to mess it up with the wrong scope. First of all, target knobs and mil dots belong on long range target type rifles. You have a hunting rifle and you need a scope that does not detract from your rifle's function as a hunting rifle.

A hunting rifle must be well balanced and portable. It is a big mistake to seat Mount Palomar onto your rifle. Instead you want a proper gun sight. Now when I say "a gun sight", I mean your scope must function first and foremost as a gun sight. Bright, sharp optics are fine, but will the scope hold zero? A proper gun sight holds zero and you should never overlook this.

Next of all, high magnification is over rated. In a hunting rifle, lower magnification is actually better because lower magnification gives you a wider field of view. Leupold makes some nice variable scopes such as a 1.5-5X. Now that would be a cool scope. Of course with a 3-9 variable you would do well with a Zeiss Conquest. But then again, a fixed 4 power will work very well also.

My friend has a fixed 4 power IOR scope that has shockingly bright optics. It holds zero and is a wonderful hunting scope.

The IOR fixed 4 power scope is available from Midway and it is just what you need on your rifle. It is even in your price range.

How about this?

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/716760/leupold-vx-1-rifle-scope-3-9x-40mm-lr-duplex-reticle-matte

That is the exact scope I put on my Tiikka T3 lite .308 that has gone afield with me now for five deer seasons. It did not add much to the weight of the rifle ––important if you have to walk or hike a long way and has held zero without any issues. It has more than enough magnification for whitetail deer at the ranges I see them - 50-300yards. I am sure I could take longer shots if needed.
bradpierson26  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 6:27:34 PM
FWIW, I wouldn't touch a current leupold VX1 or 2. VX 3 should be on par with a zeiss conquest. I had a VX1 and for the $220 I paid, it was terrible. Much better glass in the price range.

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Infide1  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 6:56:51 PM
Leupold M8-6x, works great and can easily be found used for less than your budget.... it's what I run on my model 70

TZLVredmist  [Industry Partner]
5/3/2012 7:19:03 PM
I have a Bushnell Elite 3200 Fixed 10X on my CZ-550 22-250. and it works real well. I have shot sub MOA out to 750 yards with it. the reticle is a little thick is my only complaint. I taped all my load data drop from sierra ballistics onto the back of a Mil-dot master to practice using the Mil Dots.
Fullautoguy  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 7:33:46 PM
Originally Posted By swede1986:
Don't cheap out when it comes to optics. What's the point of a nice rifle if you put a shitty scope on it?


This, the 550 series rifles are the shit and out of he box tack drivers save up and get good glass. I have the cz 550 varmint and have this scope

IOR
bafordman  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 7:44:07 PM


Exactly this.

eta: Or the VX II.
Tech-Com  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 8:08:11 PM
Sounds like you don't need anything fancy. You don't really need mildots or turrets to have a shooter out to 400-500 yards. Look into Point Blank Range sighting in. With a little time outside measuring bullet drop and velocity you can determine that your rifle can have a KillZone of say 7" out to 400 yards .etc assuming you sight it in at the distance your ballistic calculator recommends. Then all you need to know is that if you are shooting farther than your your 7" Killzone zero you aim 7" high and that will get you out even farther.

I did this for my sub-sonic .22 rifles I use for squirrel and rabbit hunting and I know I can hit a 3" Kill Zone out to 75 yards just by pointing and shooting. If it is farther I know the bullet is going to hit slightly more than 1.5" low so I just hold over 3-6" and I can shoot out to 100 yards.

It's even easier when you are shooting high velocity ammo. For 5.56 I sighted in my 3-9 Trijicon for a 7" Killzone and I know I can hit that out to 300yards without any adjustment. For human size targets you can do an 18" killzone and really reach out to a certain distance without needing to make any adjustments. I even factor in a 10mph crosswind when I determine my killzone maximum distances.


An older Leupold 4x sits on my Rem 700 7mm magnum for hunting. Most of my other stuff has tactical scopes.
Bassgasm  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 9:51:05 PM

Originally Posted By Tech-Com:
Sounds like you don't need anything fancy. You don't really need mildots or turrets to have a shooter out to 400-500 yards. Look into Point Blank Range sighting in. With a little time outside measuring bullet drop and velocity you can determine that your rifle can have a KillZone of say 7" out to 400 yards .etc assuming you sight it in at the distance your ballistic calculator recommends. Then all you need to know is that if you are shooting farther than your your 7" Killzone zero you aim 7" high and that will get you out even farther.

I did this for my sub-sonic .22 rifles I use for squirrel and rabbit hunting and I know I can hit a 3" Kill Zone out to 75 yards just by pointing and shooting. If it is farther I know the bullet is going to hit slightly more than 1.5" low so I just hold over 3-6" and I can shoot out to 100 yards.

It's even easier when you are shooting high velocity ammo. For 5.56 I sighted in my 3-9 Trijicon for a 7" Killzone and I know I can hit that out to 300yards without any adjustment. For human size targets you can do an 18" killzone and really reach out to a certain distance without needing to make any adjustments. I even factor in a 10mph crosswind when I determine my killzone maximum distances.


An older Leupold 4x sits on my Rem 700 7mm magnum for hunting. Most of my other stuff has tactical scopes.

I'm not sure what all that means, but I'm honestly not sure how I want to zero the rifle when it gets here.

I'll probably start it so it's hitting a bit high at 100yds and fine tune from there as I learn.
KPtexan  [Member]
5/3/2012 9:59:38 PM
Sightron SII Big Sky
RIA45ACP  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 10:05:34 PM
I've always though 3.5-10 scopes were a nice power range for hunting, at least the hunting I do...I like Leupold, most of mine are older Vari-X's and if you want mil dots the custom shop can install them.

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Rob762  [Member]
5/3/2012 10:17:18 PM
Nikon makes good glass for the money

PIDDLER  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 10:17:39 PM
Leupold if you can afford it or Nikon, if you can't. Either will serve you well for many years, you might just look to see if SWFA or Optics Planet has any hot deals!
turp_dog  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 10:59:04 PM
Nikon prostaff and buckmaster refurbs are on sale at Natchez right now.

Click me
troutbum86  [Member]
5/3/2012 11:33:18 PM
CZ makes a fine rifle, I've got the 527 and it's a freakin' tack-driver.

Now, the '06 is a bit of a different animal. You're not trying to pop prairie dogs at 400 yards with it, you're going for a kill shot on a medium sized big game animal, you've got probably a 10 inch circle to hit on the first shot. Realistically, you're probably going to be closer than 200 yards. Zeroed at 200 yards is usually about 2 inches high at 100 yards, and maybe 8 inches low at 300.

My longest shot on anything bigger than a rodent was 278 lasered yards on a whitetail, with a Savage 30-06 and a Burris Optics Fullfield II 3X9X40, and the scope was more than adequate for the job. They do have a sort of BDC reticle, no big mil-dots cluttering up the place though. I didn't use the BDC, not even sure what any of them are zeroed at except the main reticle.

Myself, 278 yards was stretching it pretty good. Out towards that range, wind starts to become a major factor. A 10 mph crosswind can put you 10 inches off target. I'm not a good judge of wind speed, myself, so I generally prefer to keep my shots closer than 200.

You just don't need a scope with high magnification or fancy features for that kind of shooting. You need good glass for a bright, crisp image in low light.
Aussie_E  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 11:41:29 PM
Trijicon Accupoint 3-9
Bassgasm  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 12:31:59 PM

Originally Posted By troutbum86:
CZ makes a fine rifle, I've got the 527 and it's a freakin' tack-driver.

Now, the '06 is a bit of a different animal. You're not trying to pop prairie dogs at 400 yards with it, you're going for a kill shot on a medium sized big game animal, you've got probably a 10 inch circle to hit on the first shot. Realistically, you're probably going to be closer than 200 yards. Zeroed at 200 yards is usually about 2 inches high at 100 yards, and maybe 8 inches low at 300.

*snip*

That doesn't sound too promising.

I thought the .30-06 was supposed to be an excellent med-long range cartridge.
VTHOKIESHOOTER  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 12:50:44 PM

Originally Posted By Bassgasm:

Originally Posted By troutbum86:
CZ makes a fine rifle, I've got the 527 and it's a freakin' tack-driver.

Now, the '06 is a bit of a different animal. You're not trying to pop prairie dogs at 400 yards with it, you're going for a kill shot on a medium sized big game animal, you've got probably a 10 inch circle to hit on the first shot. Realistically, you're probably going to be closer than 200 yards. Zeroed at 200 yards is usually about 2 inches high at 100 yards, and maybe 8 inches low at 300.

*snip*

That doesn't sound too promising.

I thought the .30-06 was supposed to be an excellent med-long range cartridge.

It is. For whitetails, pronghorns, and mule deer. Hand loading and working to find a load that shoots well out of your gun could yield 5 shot groups that may meet MOA, perhaps smaller.

Just because the projectile drops a bit, doesn't mean that it's inaccurate. What it means is that you must shoot enough and learn the dope of your rifle and the load that you're using.
Troll_account  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 12:53:42 PM
Christ fuck people this is not a palma match, get a fixed 4x with a great FOV.

Edit: And stop trying to overcome the lack of skill/training by throwing money and tech at it.
VTHOKIESHOOTER  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 12:59:31 PM

Originally Posted By Troll_account:
Christ fuck people this is not a palma match, get a fixed 4x with a great FOV.

That's what I have on one of my '06's. I can hit 12" steel at 300 yards all damn day with it.
Bassgasm  [Team Member]
5/5/2012 8:38:10 PM

Originally Posted By Troll_account:
Christ fuck people this is not a palma match, get a fixed 4x with a great FOV.

Edit: And stop trying to overcome the lack of skill/training by throwing money and tech at it.

What are you gettin' at?
Darrellbear  [Team Member]
5/5/2012 8:47:56 PM
Pig in a poke, sight unseen, most bang for the buck will come from Nikon. I've had good luck with them, as well as the Burris Fullfield. I like the new Redfields too.

As mentioned above, Mueller Optics sells a very nice scope, lots of bang for the buck there as well.

If you get a variable power scope, you'll probably just set it at one power and leave it there. 3-9x40 is pretty much the default nowadays. Try looking through several scopes that fit your budget and go with what you like best. Ditto earlier advice that a mildot scope w/target turrets isn't needed for hunting.