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 Well sold the AK and went H&K
saigamanTX  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 8:37:28 PM
Well sort of. Ill always like my AK's but I got a smoking deal on a PTR91 in 308. Sadly a original H&K is way out of my price range but I wanted to ask how good of a gun are the PTR's? Any tidbits you could give me as far as ammo brands not too shoot with it etc etc I'd be very thankful.

Cant pick it up for prob another week and a half as it's on layaway.

I edited the title thread since some folks think I was being serious I threw a AK in the trash can.


Star_Scream  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 8:38:56 PM
Win

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LuvBUSHmaster  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 8:39:50 PM
What barrel contour did you get?
eswift  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 8:42:01 PM
havent found anything my ptr wont eat,
thing is a pain to clean

gotta ask 7n6 how the ar got the label dirty
CaribouLou45  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 8:42:31 PM
Nice but I hear the mags are super expensive
LanXang  [Member]
5/3/2012 8:42:44 PM
The new GI models can take tar sealed or surplus ammo without problems.
saigamanTX  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 8:42:57 PM

Originally Posted By LuvBUSHmaster:
What barrel contour did you get?

Don't follow? All I can tell you is it's a newer manufactured on in the classic black furniture.
saigamanTX  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 8:43:22 PM

Originally Posted By CaribouLou45:
Nice but I hear the mags are super expensive

Surely you must be joking.....?
saigamanTX  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 8:43:49 PM

Originally Posted By LanXang:
The new GI models can take tar sealed or surplus ammo with problems.

without you mean? And steel cased?
CaribouLou45  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 8:44:09 PM
Originally Posted By saigamanTX:

Originally Posted By CaribouLou45:
Nice but I hear the mags are super expensive

Surely you must be joking.....?


sel366  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 8:44:59 PM
One is on my short list.
LanXang  [Member]
5/3/2012 8:45:33 PM
Originally Posted By saigamanTX:

Originally Posted By LanXang:
The new GI models can take tar sealed or surplus ammo with problems.

without you mean? And steel cased?


Yes, without any problems. Steel cased is no problem, the roller delayed system was designed with steel cased ammo in mind.
ObsoleteMan  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 8:46:54 PM
I bought one hundred G3 mags for $10000. shipped. Oops, did I put my decimal in the wrong place again?
saigamanTX  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 8:47:29 PM

Originally Posted By ObsoleteMan:
I bought one hundred G3 mags for $10000. shipped. Oops, did I put my decimal in the wrong place again?


LuvBUSHmaster  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 8:48:19 PM
Originally Posted By saigamanTX:

Originally Posted By LuvBUSHmaster:
What barrel contour did you get?

Don't follow? All I can tell you is it's a newer manufactured on in the classic black furniture.


They (PTR-91) can come HK profile (thin) or a "target" barrel which is considerably thicker (HBAR).
thearmschest  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 8:48:25 PM
you done good
MTNmyMag  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 8:49:16 PM
Originally Posted By saigamanTX:

Originally Posted By CaribouLou45:
Nice but I hear the mags are super expensive

Surely you must be joking.....?


I have some I will sell you for 6 bucks a piece
74novaman  [Member]
5/3/2012 8:49:25 PM
I've always been intrigued by the ptrs. I'll be interested in how you like it compared to the fal.
4v50  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 8:50:36 PM
You threw a gun in the trash? Where is the trash can?
CaribouLou45  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 8:52:09 PM
Originally Posted By MTNmyMag:
Originally Posted By saigamanTX:

Originally Posted By CaribouLou45:
Nice but I hear the mags are super expensive

Surely you must be joking.....?


I have some I will sell you for 6 bucks a piece


Damn

That's a bargain. OP, jump on it!
mp_moody  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 8:52:39 PM
Didn't you get a set of painted Rhodesian handguards awhile back? Be sure to install those for us.
saigamanTX  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 8:53:17 PM

Originally Posted By LuvBUSHmaster:
Originally Posted By saigamanTX:

Originally Posted By LuvBUSHmaster:
What barrel contour did you get?

Don't follow? All I can tell you is it's a newer manufactured on in the classic black furniture.


They (PTR-91) can come HK profile (thin) or a "target" barrel which is considerably thicker (HBAR).
The booklet says it's a heavy barrel.

saigamanTX  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 8:54:29 PM

Originally Posted By 4v50:
You threw a gun in the trash? Where is the trash can?

Figure of speech bru figure of speech.
DaveSpud  [Member]
5/3/2012 8:55:29 PM
thing is a pain to clean
Naaaah, not hard at all. Bore and chamber and bolt as normal. Use a nylon bristled .410 brush with a patch wrapped on it to clean the flutes.

Disassembling the bolt is a chore, but that only needs done every 1,000 rounds or so? Maybe more. I did mine several years ago....

PTR's are good rifles.
Vault_Boy  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 8:59:21 PM
Originally Posted By saigamanTX:

Originally Posted By ObsoleteMan:
I bought one hundred G3 mags for $10000. shipped. Oops, did I put my decimal in the wrong place again?




I've had my 91 since the '70s (It was $389 new at Central Loan) and I used to pay upwards of $45 a piece for mags. I was shocked when I started seeing them for a buck. 93 mags are still an arm & a leg though.
BTW: One friend has a PTR that has been back twice and still won't run, and another has one that runs like my factory HK. So I'd try to test fire it if possible.
eswift  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 9:00:18 PM
Originally Posted By DaveSpud:
thing is a pain to clean
Naaaah, not hard at all. Bore and chamber and bolt as normal. Use a nylon bristled .410 brush with a patch wrapped on it to clean the flutes.

Disassembling the bolt is a chore, but that only needs done every 1,000 rounds or so? Maybe more. I did mine several years ago....

PTR's are good rifles.


not claiming anything to the contrary,
but between my ar 10, m1a, fal and the ptr, the hk design is definitely the one that collects the most crap and time required to clean
Vault_Boy  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 10:29:54 PM
Originally Posted By eswift:
Originally Posted By DaveSpud:
thing is a pain to clean
Naaaah, not hard at all. Bore and chamber and bolt as normal. Use a nylon bristled .410 brush with a patch wrapped on it to clean the flutes.

Disassembling the bolt is a chore, but that only needs done every 1,000 rounds or so? Maybe more. I did mine several years ago....

PTR's are good rifles.


not claiming anything to the contrary,
but between my ar 10, m1a, fal and the ptr, the hk design is definitely the one that collects the most crap and time required to clean


Cleaning should be no problem for you. Your avatar indicates you are disrespectful to dirt. Don't have an AR10, but for fun plinking I use my FALs most, HK for accuracy/long range prairie dog popping (have a PSG1 trigger in it) and the M1A I sold recently.
raysheen  [Team Member]
5/3/2012 10:33:55 PM
Originally Posted By LuvBUSHmaster:
Originally Posted By saigamanTX:

Originally Posted By LuvBUSHmaster:
What barrel contour did you get?

Don't follow? All I can tell you is it's a newer manufactured on in the classic black furniture.


They (PTR-91) can come HK profile (thin) or a "target" barrel which is considerably thicker (HBAR).


This thread reminds me that I have a large box of mags with your name on it.
AcidGambit  [Member]
5/4/2012 11:41:37 AM
The HK91 type rifles are nice, but man they kick like a mule! Enjoy.
Bigshot64  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 11:46:07 AM
Ghetto  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 11:46:27 AM
Tanker06  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 11:53:06 AM
Originally Posted By AcidGambit:
The HK91 type rifles are nice, but man they kick like a mule! Enjoy.

Yep, G3 w/ a happy switch will brutalize ya....

There's a vid floating around of me demonstrating such....
Tanker06  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 11:55:46 AM
Like any clone, there are good ones and bad. Generally the bad ones can be fixed,
but you have to find somebody who knows what they're doing to do so.

As for ammo, they'll usually eat just about anything, but they're not kind to brass,
so reloading might be iffy...
twitch1706  [Member]
5/4/2012 11:58:19 AM
Originally Posted By Tanker06:
As for ammo, they'll usually eat just about anything, but they're not kind to brass,
so reloading might be iffy...


LuvBUSHmaster  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 12:00:42 PM
Originally Posted By raysheen:
Originally Posted By LuvBUSHmaster:
Originally Posted By saigamanTX:

Originally Posted By LuvBUSHmaster:
What barrel contour did you get?

Don't follow? All I can tell you is it's a newer manufactured on in the classic black furniture.


They (PTR-91) can come HK profile (thin) or a "target" barrel which is considerably thicker (HBAR).


This thread reminds me that I have a large box of mags with your name on it.


Ah, yes, you are right.

I will swing by your house later this month.


4v50  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 2:45:36 PM
Originally Posted By saigamanTX:

Originally Posted By 4v50:
You threw a gun in the trash? Where is the trash can?

Figure of speech bru figure of speech.




Now Arfcom knows I dumpster dive. I hope Ed and Striker don't put this on page 1 of their Arfcom book.

Enjoy you PTR-91. They are fun guns. In college, my friends and I used to shoot a HK all the time. Good times.
Mattl  [Member]
5/4/2012 2:57:46 PM
Ergo fail to another ergo fail, and the PTR will cost you at least 50% more to shoot. Hope you don't expect to reload, 91s destroy brass.
hidinginwoods  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 3:03:16 PM
If it is a earlier jld gun with a aletter befor serial number you can shoot any ammo . Ptr labeled guns had some issues with thompson made barrels and the chamber being to tight. Supposedly gi series fixed that. Great guns.
Will220  [Team Member]
5/5/2012 10:37:44 PM
Originally Posted By twitch1706:
Originally Posted By Tanker06:
As for ammo, they'll usually eat just about anything, but they're not kind to brass,
so reloading might be iffy...


http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6489/weird308damage1.jpg



Bought an HK-91 for $500 brand new back when you could get this kind of stuff in New Jersey, good weapon but as said, it wasn't kind to brass at all and once you fired the last round the bolt was closed. Just something about hearing that "click" when expecting "boom" really bothered me and I sold rifle to friend for my $500. No rifle like that should close bolt after last round is fired and as nice as rifle was what they ask for them now days is way overpriced, just my $.02

Will
eswift  [Team Member]
5/5/2012 11:04:28 PM
Originally Posted By Vault_Boy:
Originally Posted By eswift:
Originally Posted By DaveSpud:
thing is a pain to clean
Naaaah, not hard at all. Bore and chamber and bolt as normal. Use a nylon bristled .410 brush with a patch wrapped on it to clean the flutes.

Disassembling the bolt is a chore, but that only needs done every 1,000 rounds or so? Maybe more. I did mine several years ago....

PTR's are good rifles.


not claiming anything to the contrary,
but between my ar 10, m1a, fal and the ptr, the hk design is definitely the one that collects the most crap and time required to clean


Cleaning should be no problem for you. Your avatar indicates you are disrespectful to dirt. Don't have an AR10, but for fun plinking I use my FALs most, HK for accuracy/long range prairie dog popping (have a PSG1 trigger in it) and the M1A I sold recently.


Herro american investor!
Can you see that I am serious?
I like my ptr, it is just my disrespect for dirt means I can't leave those flutes full of gunk, and SA surplus can dish it with awesomea power
Sniper_B  [Member]
5/5/2012 11:12:41 PM
Get a hk21 buffer. No mas recoil.