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 Wife saw husband die in Afghanistan while on SKYPE chat...
GurkaDin  [Member]
5/4/2012 1:07:18 PM


http://www.elpasotimes.com/news/ci_20545474/wife-beaumont-nurse-died-while-skype-chat
LuckyDucky  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 1:09:10 PM
How did he die?
h3smith  [Member]
5/4/2012 1:09:54 PM
How?

He was Skyping during a firefight?

He took his own life?

Vague story is vague .
NoMoAMMO  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 1:11:08 PM
Heart Attack???
3Trip  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 1:12:08 PM
Worlds worst joke?
GurkaDin  [Member]
5/4/2012 1:13:48 PM


http://www.mlive.com/news/jackson/index.ssf/2012/05/wife_witnessed_death_of_us_arm.html
Bigshot64  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 1:14:41 PM
Originally Posted By 3Trip:
Worlds worst joke?


I fucking hope not
LuckyDucky  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 1:17:40 PM


Looks like no information released yet.

It could be good she witnessed his death like it was his dying moments and the last chance to see him or it could be bad like he committed suicide.

Aimless  [Site Staff]
5/4/2012 1:18:24 PM

Originally Posted By LuckyDucky:
How did he die?

There seem to be a bunch of articles all linked and none of them say

maybe it's in the videos, I didn't watch those
Zaphod  [Life Member]
5/4/2012 1:19:52 PM
Mortar/bomb in the area he was Skyping from?

I can't imagine he was Skyping while on a patrol or something....
AzSteven  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 1:20:56 PM
Well, that was a completely non-informative news release.
JSteensen  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 1:21:47 PM
I would guess indirect fire...

poor lady.
sovereign  [Member]
5/4/2012 1:23:19 PM
I am going into a journalism career soon. I figure I will need no new capabilities, talents, education, or knowledge. Just start writing.
Aimless  [Site Staff]
5/4/2012 1:23:34 PM

Originally Posted By Zaphod:
Mortar/bomb in the area he was Skyping from?

I can't imagine he was Skyping while on a patrol or something....

And he was a nurse
phatmax  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 1:27:37 PM
Originally Posted By sovereign:
I am going into a journalism career soon. I figure I will need no new capabilities, talents, education, or knowledge. Just start writing.


Monkey blue pickles today car clippers yellow was letter CD while sunglasses flying cup hot water and then Sam screwdriver flatulence. Flashlight nailfile died monitor Ducati and Coffee.

I am now a journalist.

I want more real info, but still RIP Soldier.
jcrone2  [Member]
5/4/2012 1:28:48 PM
"At the time of the incident, the family was hoping for a rescue and miracle, but later learned that it was not to be," according to the family's statement.



Zaphod  [Life Member]
5/4/2012 1:29:39 PM
Originally Posted By phatmax:
Originally Posted By sovereign:
I am going into a journalism career soon. I figure I will need no new capabilities, talents, education, or knowledge. Just start writing.


Monkey blue pickles today car clippers yellow was letter CD while sunglasses flying cup hot water and then Sam screwdriver flatulence. Flashlight nailfile died monitor Ducati and Coffee.

I am now a journalist.


thekirk  [Member]
5/4/2012 1:30:38 PM
I've been predicting something like this was going to happen for years, now. But, I figured it would likely be over a satellite phone out on a mission, rather than inside a FOB over Skype. I don't know whether it would be better for him to have had a heart attack, or been shot by an Afghani with "Sudden Jihad Syndrome"––Either way, he's dead, and his wife had to watch.

That's an interesting issue, too: Say he had a heart attack in his CHU, over Skype. Who the hell would you call, to get him help? It's not like 911 service here in the US would even have a clue. I would probably have to dial the duty officer down at the rear detachment, and hope I got someone with half a clue, who'd know how to get in contact with the downrange unit in timely manner. That's a whole sequence of events just calculated to make things worse, for everyone. I think our rear-d guys had a satellite phone number they could call, in emergencies, but whether or not that phone would be working or not is another question entirely.

Broadly put, if someone had the presence of mind to follow the right path, I think it would be 30-45 minutes minimum before someone on that FOB got to him, if it was a heart attack. The whole time, she would have likely been watching the Skype chat. My heart goes out to her––That had to be a horrible experience.

I'm really, really glad I never had to take a phone call like that while I was on staff duty, and one of our units was downrange. Worse yet, being out on barracks checks, and coming back to the duty office to find the duty driver trying to deal with it...

RIP, Captain Clark. I hope his widow can come to peace with this horrible situation.
CCW  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 1:36:26 PM
So we are running Skype network in the war zone? Are we also running ATT 4G? WTF? Is this to provide the Paks, Al Qaeda, and Taliban with battle-field intel capability? I guess we cannot allow assymeteric intel capability. Might lower taliban's self-esteem.
NUcadet07  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 1:41:58 PM
Originally Posted By CCW:
So we are running Skype network in the war zone? Are we also running ATT 4G? WTF? Is this to provide the Paks, Al Qaeda, and Taliban with battle-field intel capability? I guess we cannot allow assymeteric intel capability. Might lower taliban's self-esteem.


Or maybe it's because I'd like to talk to my fucking wife.

Just a little FYI, Afghanistan has one of the most extensive cellular networks in the world. I'm reasonably sure the Taliban didn't give a shit about what color my wife wanted to paint our bedroom while I was deployed. They did however shut down the local cell phone towers at night so that we couldn't use our Roshan cell's to call home, thus lowering our morale and so the locals couldn't call us to tell them where they were planting bombs.

Seriously, what was the point in posting that nonsense?
USMC6177  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 1:44:29 PM
Originally Posted By CCW:
So we are running Skype network in the war zone? Are we also running ATT 4G? WTF? Is this to provide the Paks, Al Qaeda, and Taliban with battle-field intel capability? I guess we cannot allow assymeteric intel capability. Might lower taliban's self-esteem.


Herp
TaylorWSO  [Life Member]
5/4/2012 1:45:06 PM

Originally Posted By CCW:
So we are running Skype network in the war zone? Are we also running ATT 4G? WTF? Is this to provide the Paks, Al Qaeda, and Taliban with battle-field intel capability? I guess we cannot allow assymeteric intel capability. Might lower taliban's self-esteem.

Because its kinda nice to talk with people whom you care about, since you posted such a fucking dumb ass comment, I'm guessing you have never deployed now have you
ak4784  [Member]
5/4/2012 1:45:24 PM
I have friends that update their facebook from afghanistan.

One friend was commenting on how nice the morning was....sunny and warm, until the mortars started falling.

And Skype is a very common way to talk to peopke back home
Gopher  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 1:49:44 PM

Originally Posted By sovereign:
I am going into a journalism career soon. I figure I will need no new capabilities, talents, education, or knowledge. Just start writing.

I guess they don't teach who, what, where, when, why, and how in those classes anymore.
HermanSnerd  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 1:53:01 PM
Can't imagine how awful that was for the wife.

Like everyone else, I am wondering how he died.

ttushooter  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 1:53:56 PM
http://http://www.elpasotimes.com/ci_20548321

this one says his death was not combat related.

so, Unforeseen medical issues?? Suicide?
Wigglesdabum  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 1:55:36 PM
I looked it up on Icasualties. He died from Hostile Fire. So I am guessing an ANA or ANP turned inside the wire.

EDIT: Here is my source:

http://icasualties.org/OEF/Fatalities.aspx
smokenruger  [Member]
5/4/2012 1:56:53 PM
From the update link ""It wasn't a result of hostile action," said public affairs officer Clarence Davis. "He was not wounded.""

http://www.elpasotimes.com/ci_20548321
tc556guy  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 1:58:37 PM
Originally Posted By CCW:
So we are running Skype network in the war zone?


On bigger bases, absolutely.

Out in Helmand? Lucky to be able to pull up your emails.

Give it a whirl and see how you like it
tc556guy  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 1:58:58 PM
double tap
CCW  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 2:04:25 PM
Originally Posted By NUcadet07:
Originally Posted By CCW:
So we are running Skype network in the war zone? Are we also running ATT 4G? WTF? Is this to provide the Paks, Al Qaeda, and Taliban with battle-field intel capability? I guess we cannot allow assymeteric intel capability. Might lower taliban's self-esteem.


Or maybe it's because I'd like to talk to my fucking wife.

Just a little FYI, Afghanistan has one of the most extensive cellular networks in the world. I'm reasonably sure the Taliban didn't give a shit about what color my wife wanted to paint our bedroom while I was deployed. They did however shut down the local cell phone towers at night so that we couldn't use our Roshan cell's to call home, thus lowering our morale and so the locals couldn't call us to tell them where they were planting bombs.
Seriously, what was the point in posting that nonsense?


Call you? Why would the locals call you? They might be calling Taliban dawn patrol cadres to tell them where to avoid they just planted the bomb, but not you! Just more battlefield dumbfuckery that tells me we need to get the hell out now.

tc556guy  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 2:06:32 PM
Originally Posted By CCW:

Call you? Why would the locals call you? They might be calling Taliban dawn patrol cadres to tell them where to avoid they just planted the bomb, but not you! Just more battlefield dumbfuckery that tells me we need to get the hell out now.



We regularly received calls from our local ANP leadership
Snips  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 2:08:05 PM
Wasn't there a story last week about a woman being notified of her husband's death by one of his buddies over Skype? Maybe that's what they're trying to say?
Silver_Surfer  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 2:10:22 PM
devildog12210  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 2:10:25 PM
tag for cause of death. No matter the cause its terrible she had to watch helplessly.
NUcadet07  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 2:13:29 PM
Originally Posted By CCW:
Originally Posted By NUcadet07:
Originally Posted By CCW:
So we are running Skype network in the war zone? Are we also running ATT 4G? WTF? Is this to provide the Paks, Al Qaeda, and Taliban with battle-field intel capability? I guess we cannot allow assymeteric intel capability. Might lower taliban's self-esteem.


Or maybe it's because I'd like to talk to my fucking wife.

Just a little FYI, Afghanistan has one of the most extensive cellular networks in the world. I'm reasonably sure the Taliban didn't give a shit about what color my wife wanted to paint our bedroom while I was deployed. They did however shut down the local cell phone towers at night so that we couldn't use our Roshan cell's to call home, thus lowering our morale and so the locals couldn't call us to tell them where they were planting bombs.
Seriously, what was the point in posting that nonsense?


Call you? Why would the locals call you? They might be calling Taliban dawn patrol cadres to tell them where to avoid they just planted the bomb, but not you! Just more battlefield dumbfuckery that tells me we need to get the hell out now.




Gotcha, you've made your ass quite visible.
leatherman84  [Member]
5/4/2012 2:16:11 PM
Fox news radio said he "was killed", but didn't elaborate.

To me that says it wasn't a health issue, rather an external force. It could just be more sloppy reporting though.
Chaingun  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 2:19:32 PM

Originally Posted By CCW:
So we are running Skype network in the war zone? Are we also running ATT 4G? WTF? Is this to provide the Paks, Al Qaeda, and Taliban with battle-field intel capability? I guess we cannot allow assymeteric intel capability. Might lower taliban's self-esteem.

They have internet, so theres whatever is allowed
aimforthemedic  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 2:27:44 PM
Heart attack? Maybe IDF...that would be terrible. I've stayed on Skype a few times during some close IDF instead of going to a bunker.
wingnutx  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 2:33:57 PM

Originally Posted By CCW:


Why would the locals call you?

Derp
mntclimber  [Member]
5/4/2012 2:35:13 PM
CCW,

Your Lane, you are out of it.

Stick to whatever it is you do. Cause you ain't got a clue about what we do and how we do it.
mntclimber  [Member]
5/4/2012 2:39:11 PM
.mil has not completed its Line of Duty investigation, therfore there is no offical release as to cause of death.

The fact that the wife was on skype with the husband was likely released by the family.

A military town media is generally pretty good with sticking to only releaseing "offical" death announcment stuff so that they do not end up on a PAO blacklist.

Bohr_Adam  [Life Member]
5/4/2012 2:50:11 PM
Originally Posted By mntclimber:
.mil has not completed its Line of Duty investigation, therfore there is no offical release as to cause of death.

The fact that the wife was on skype with the husband was likely released by the family.

A military town media is generally pretty good with sticking to only releaseing "offical" death announcment stuff so that they do not end up on a PAO blacklist.



Clearly the statement came from the family - but why was it so vague? Why release anything at all?
Strykewolf  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 2:53:20 PM
Originally Posted By Snips:
Wasn't there a story last week about a woman being notified of her husband's death by one of his buddies over Skype? Maybe that's what they're trying to say?


Soldiers female buddy contacted the wife via facebook and told her to call.
25Chuck  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 2:57:47 PM
Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
Originally Posted By mntclimber:
.mil has not completed its Line of Duty investigation, therfore there is no offical release as to cause of death.

The fact that the wife was on skype with the husband was likely released by the family.

A military town media is generally pretty good with sticking to only releaseing "offical" death announcment stuff so that they do not end up on a PAO blacklist.



Clearly the statement came from the family - but why was it so vague? Why release anything at all?


I guess that's just what passes for news these days. Who cares if the story has facts in it, as long as there is a snappy attention grabbing headline to draw traffic to your website.
KC-10Boom  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 3:01:16 PM
Originally Posted By NUcadet07:
Originally Posted By CCW:
Originally Posted By NUcadet07:
Originally Posted By CCW:
So we are running Skype network in the war zone? Are we also running ATT 4G? WTF? Is this to provide the Paks, Al Qaeda, and Taliban with battle-field intel capability? I guess we cannot allow assymeteric intel capability. Might lower taliban's self-esteem.


Or maybe it's because I'd like to talk to my fucking wife.

Just a little FYI, Afghanistan has one of the most extensive cellular networks in the world. I'm reasonably sure the Taliban didn't give a shit about what color my wife wanted to paint our bedroom while I was deployed. They did however shut down the local cell phone towers at night so that we couldn't use our Roshan cell's to call home, thus lowering our morale and so the locals couldn't call us to tell them where they were planting bombs.
Seriously, what was the point in posting that nonsense?


Call you? Why would the locals call you? They might be calling Taliban dawn patrol cadres to tell them where to avoid they just planted the bomb, but not you! Just more battlefield dumbfuckery that tells me we need to get the hell out now.




Gotcha, you've made your ass quite visible.


This.

Not every Afghani is a terrorist, sheesh. I'm one of the pogueiest of pogues and I know that.
mntclimber  [Member]
5/4/2012 3:03:45 PM
Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
Originally Posted By mntclimber:
.mil has not completed its Line of Duty investigation, therfore there is no offical release as to cause of death.

The fact that the wife was on skype with the husband was likely released by the family.

A military town media is generally pretty good with sticking to only releaseing "offical" death announcment stuff so that they do not end up on a PAO blacklist.



Clearly the statement came from the family - but why was it so vague? Why release anything at all?


Not in media, so a SWAG on my part. First to break a story that will end up going national is probably a pretty big deal.
If you wait for all info, then you risk being second.

Right, wrong, or otherwise, sounds about right to me.

At least the person writing the report, acknowledged that they did not COD in the story and why.
M82Assault  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 3:04:52 PM
Originally Posted By phatmax:
Originally Posted By sovereign:
I am going into a journalism career soon. I figure I will need no new capabilities, talents, education, or knowledge. Just start writing.


Monkey blue pickles today car clippers yellow was letter CD while sunglasses flying cup hot water and then Sam screwdriver flatulence. Flashlight nailfile died monitor Ducati and Coffee.

I am now a journalist.

I want more real info, but still RIP Soldier.


You forgot 'AK47,' 'assault clip,' 'assault gun/rifle,' 'Bush's fault,' and 'for the children'

mrraley  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 3:10:59 PM
Really sorry to hear this.

I used Skype when ever I could just to be able to see my kids and talk to them every chance I got.
Bohr_Adam  [Life Member]
5/4/2012 3:12:13 PM
Originally Posted By mntclimber:
Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
Originally Posted By mntclimber:
.mil has not completed its Line of Duty investigation, therfore there is no offical release as to cause of death.

The fact that the wife was on skype with the husband was likely released by the family.

A military town media is generally pretty good with sticking to only releaseing "offical" death announcment stuff so that they do not end up on a PAO blacklist.



Clearly the statement came from the family - but why was it so vague? Why release anything at all?


Not in media, so a SWAG on my part. First to break a story that will end up going national is probably a pretty big deal.
If you wait for all info, then you risk being second.

Right, wrong, or otherwise, sounds about right to me.

At least the person writing the report, acknowledged that they did not COD in the story and why.


Not the media, the family/wife.

If you are going to release something like that the the press, why leave out such a basic detail? Hell, for all we know the guy died due to autoerotic asphyxiation.

By not giving that basic detail, people assume enemy action. THAT'S why it's weird to me.

If killed by a rocket, you'd think the release would say "I watched my husband get killed by frag" or some such.

The whole reason for going to the press makes no sense.

The whole thing is just bizarre.
NUcadet07  [Team Member]
5/4/2012 3:14:26 PM
Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
Originally Posted By mntclimber:
Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
Originally Posted By mntclimber:
.mil has not completed its Line of Duty investigation, therfore there is no offical release as to cause of death.

The fact that the wife was on skype with the husband was likely released by the family.

A military town media is generally pretty good with sticking to only releaseing "offical" death announcment stuff so that they do not end up on a PAO blacklist.



Clearly the statement came from the family - but why was it so vague? Why release anything at all?


Not in media, so a SWAG on my part. First to break a story that will end up going national is probably a pretty big deal.
If you wait for all info, then you risk being second.

Right, wrong, or otherwise, sounds about right to me.

At least the person writing the report, acknowledged that they did not COD in the story and why.


Not the media, the family/wife.

If you are going to release something like that the the press, why leave out such a basic detail? Hell, for all we know the guy died due to autoerotic asphyxiation.

By not giving that basic detail, people assume enemy action. THAT'S why it's weird to me.

If killed by a rocket, you'd think the release would say "I watched my husband get killed by frag" or some such.

The whole reason for going to the press makes no sense.

The whole thing is just bizarre.


Indeed, I'm still leaning towards natural causes.