Will Obama be able to win by moving farther left?

By giving up any pretense of appearing to be in the center can he really win this?

with his pinko statist ass we may get to find out

Nope. It is a desperate attempt that while gaining some voters will also cost him others.

With less than 30% of the country being that far left I don't see how.

I guess theoretically if he moves far enough left, he won't have to win an election to stay in power. He seizes power as it is with lawless decrees. Is it below him to seize the office, if he is not above abusing it?

Self-described, maybe. But in terms of actual Leftist policy support, a helluva lot more than 30% of the country is more than a bit to the Left.

He's already given up on the white working class(ahem, read "taxpayer") ...his campaign readily admits this.

If that pile of shit moves any more to the left he will fall off the end and come around to the right side. ( which is also full of shit these days...)

I'm hoping he does.

I honestly expect him to become a martyr before anyone will allow him to lose.

Oh, you said does.

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No, Zero is doomed. He can only win through fraud now. All his bullshit has been exposed. The Democrats will vote for him, but independents wont, and Republicans will turn out big time to get rid of him.

I think that he has to. No one on the Right is going to vote for him and the independents are moving away from him. He needs every crazy ass loon that relies on a gov check to show up at the polls. He needs everyone that usually supports the Left on Election Day and he needs all of their friends and family that are generally too lazy to vote.
Basically everyone that is on any kind of public assistance or believes that they have a right to other people's money will have to show up or Obama loses. As things currently stand a large number of independent voters are tired of him and have lost faith in his (meager) abilities. A lot of his base are tired of him and he's lost support among every demographic that backed him in 2008. Every demographic expect for Blacks. For some crazy unknown reason Black people still have almost complete faith in him. No on knows why.
Obama can't swing towards the center. It's too late and wouldn't be believable anyway.
He needs everyone that relies upon the gov to show up and he will also need the felons, deceased and voter fraud crowd in November.

Actually no, he is even losing them. Probably because his rich donors urged him to support gay marriage. Everyone knows he supported it but had to publicly be against it because he pretends and mimics being a normal African American. And they go to church, believe in god, and oppose gay marriage.

I don't think he can. I thnk one of the reasons he won last time was by convincing a lot of people he was not a leftist.

On the other hand that's where his power base is. It can be argued that going more towards the left will help regain the votes that being more centrist will lose him.

There is still stimulus money floating out there in limbo. I predict that closer to the elections like August or so he is going to implement some sort of student loan forgiveness with that money. He will basically buy the election with our own money.

Well, it is really his only hope. He has lost the middle and doesn't look likely that he will regain it. He has the left but he's worried that they aren't energized like the last time. This immigration bullshit is an attempt to reach out to the hispanics. Don't forget about some type of student loan hooligans. He'll do anything to get back the young vote that, at the moment, isn't quite as enchanted with him as they were last time.

Bottom line: Look for all sorts of gimmicks, tricks, and give-a-ways in an attempt to get re-elected. The only thing that I know for sure is that we'll be the ones to pay for this crap. Oh and don't forget about even more fraud than normal. Why else would the DOJ be suing Florida to keep them from purging their lists of illegal voters.

I had a chat with a clown woman who tried to tell me that Obama was a "Centrist". I told her to lay off the meth.

As someone who has worked in a black church for the past two years, I can vouch for this.

considering how ridiculously unpopular the health insurance shit he pulled is, i don't think moving further to the left is gonna help him much.

It's simply a move born of desperation. He has lost white America, so he has to energize the far left. Not that it will help him in Nov.

As far as the black vote goes, he'll get around 95% again. Mark my words.

This.
Most "moderates" that I've run into are the people that you hope don't vote. There's a reason you don't see many on the right hoping to "Rock the vote". What "rocks out to vote" is a bunch of fucking socialists and commies.

I hope that is his plan. Expect him however to play to whatever crowd he is addressing at the moment.

Including more than half of the "right" when it comes to social security since they "paid into it" without realizing they were robbed at gunpoint. Watch and see how many come to defend that they deserve to be paid.

No, really!




Not a chance in hell!

The Party is not real happy with Obama's hard tack to the left. Note all the recent jabs, criticisms and suggestions by Carville, Begala, and of course, the de facto Party leader, Billy Boy.

No way. Desperation.

Eh I doubt it'd work. Even ObamaCare which is pretty socialist is being challenged and scrutinized in the courts so going on a further left platform and promising more socialist programs and policies wouldn't work today. Going a little bit to the right on his platform would make him a lot more difficult for the Republicans to beat.

He's loosing votes in every category, but he's going to still try and give away everything to win

that happens there will be a lot of voting being done, just from a different height.

Sounds more like the Republican's plan.

This guy's bullshit worked the last time, it may work again. Don't forget how many morons, gov't teat suckers and lazy asses there are in this country.

Obama is in a tough pickle. He needs the far lefts support, but this close to the election he needs to be appealing more to voters in the center. Catch 22.

The left will no doubt vote for him, but they will be less likely to help with his re-election, etc. They seem pretty pissed about all the stuff he promised and didn't do.

Yeah, he kinda shot himself in the foot with the religious voters on this one, I've been laughing my ass off saying "told you so." to my more liberal black and white fellow church members that supported him in 08. You know, the ones that used to say "Obama, '08, Oh Yeah!"

Now I'm just sitting back, hoping for a repeat of the 1980 election, and hoping Romney is half as good for this country that Reagan turned out to be.

Me too. Let's hope we get the Senate. Imagine what Reagan could done with an aligned Congress.

You won't be able to partake in that voting being that you're from IL.

From a historical perspective, he has no chance by doubling down on socialism.

That said, we now have the most citizens ever in our history who are dependent on government largess for their existence. Obama is playing to that. Will he have enough? I certainly hope not.

Yes. Here is why:

Obama has the black vote no matter what, so he starts with a 13 point advantage. On top of that his base is excited by socialist views.

Now, Romney starts with an un-excited base. He gets votes from Obama voters who are disenchanted, not from conservative values. As such, the more left Obama goes left, the more he picks up and the more Romney drops off.

Yep. I don't have much trouble believing this just based on the people I know who voted for Obama. If you ask any of them they would claim not to be leftist, yet every single one of them was expecting something from an Obama administration, be it a job, health care, lower house payments, college for their kids, etc. They all wanted a government that would do more things for them on someone else's dime.

[quote]Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
By giving up any pretense of appearing to be in the center can he really win this?[/quote]

Yes, of course he will win. People on this board seem to not realize that we are now a marxist/socialist country.

As Pat Buchanan wrote in The Death of the West, it's simply a matter of who is having the babies and the cultural values these children will be raised with.

I don't mean this in a racist way, but look at what groups are having the majority of babies now, what groups Barry Soetoro is going to stop deporting and ask yourself how these will vote. It's not rocket science. It's a war of cultural values as Pat said in his book.

If you are a middle-class person in this country, you can expect to have progressively more of your wealth confiscated in coming years via taxation as these people take over the governmental processes through sheer numbers.

Just watch what Barry Soetoro does to the supreme court in the next term.

Oh, and this is NOT a black versus white versus hispanic issue. If you are an African-American or hispanic person who worked your ass off to become an engineer or doctor or attorney, etc., your ass will get taxed into oblivion too as marxism/socialism really gets going. As Barry Soetoro said, we need to "spread the wealth around." And it will be the middle-class who gets "spread around" - not the ultra-rich who always escape this process.

He will do anything to get reelected. It wouldn't surprise me if he leans left now and moves back to the center two months before the election. By then he will have secured the voters on the left and the ones in the middle will have forgotten about him supporting the leftist agenda.

No OP, going left won't help him because it was the Middle that elected him last time. People like my white, middle aged parents who were worried about their retirement savings after the last few of the Bush years. Those people won't be voting for him again and won't be watching the rockstar media presentation of his campaign.

Wanna bet?

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