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3/22/2012 8:42:13 PM
Anyone read the book "Hunger Games" and/or have an interest in seing the upcoming movie?
Since we have threads on the Nat Geo preppers and survival(ist) movies, I thought this would be an appropriate discussion here.
Based on all the media hype, I downloaded the book on my Kindle and couldn't put it down. I found out after the fact that this is projected to be as popular with teens and pre-teens as the Harry Potter and Twilight series. Nonetheless, I enjoyed the book.
Its set in the post apocalpytic nation of Panem which arose after North America was destroyed and after a rebellion against the central government. Punishment for the rebellion was for each "district" to provide a boy and girl between the ages of 12 and 18 to fight each other to the death in a huge outdoor area until the last one standing is proclaimed the winner. These "tributes" are selected by lottery (reaping). The "districts" are all impoverished semi slave areas producing goods for the decadent central government "the capitol". Kids can get additional food allotments for their families by signing up for additional chances to be selected in the reapoing.
This definitely isn't up to the post apocalyptic literature we're used to on this forum. However, in my view it holds promise of being a positive message for a lost young generation.
1. The book stresses the virtues of being able to survive by foraging for wild plants and hunting and trapping with snares, obtaining fresh water and shelter etc..
2. The books anti-government theme is extremely strong.It portrays the evil of the tyranny of a few over the majority.
3. It stresses the value of family and friendship over everything even at great personal sacrifice. The heroine of the story volunteers to be a tribute after her 12 year old sister is selected in the lottery.
4. It stresses the ability to defend yourself with the only weapons available to the general public which are primitive ones such as bow and arrow and knives.
5. The "Capitol" treats the games much like a combination of the TV series survivor and American Idol. The portrayal of the media hype around these deadly games looks so familiar in our current media and society that its sickening.
6. It provides an opportunity to discuss with young people what could go terribly wrong with this country resulting in a society/governemnt as fundamentally repulsive as the one protrayed in this movie.
I think this movie provides a great opportunity to have meaningful discussions with your children about how society can go so far astray, in my case grand children, about the principals/virtues which politically conservative people hold as precious.
Just my .02 cents worth.
Since we have threads on the Nat Geo preppers and survival(ist) movies, I thought this would be an appropriate discussion here.
Based on all the media hype, I downloaded the book on my Kindle and couldn't put it down. I found out after the fact that this is projected to be as popular with teens and pre-teens as the Harry Potter and Twilight series. Nonetheless, I enjoyed the book.
Its set in the post apocalpytic nation of Panem which arose after North America was destroyed and after a rebellion against the central government. Punishment for the rebellion was for each "district" to provide a boy and girl between the ages of 12 and 18 to fight each other to the death in a huge outdoor area until the last one standing is proclaimed the winner. These "tributes" are selected by lottery (reaping). The "districts" are all impoverished semi slave areas producing goods for the decadent central government "the capitol". Kids can get additional food allotments for their families by signing up for additional chances to be selected in the reapoing.
This definitely isn't up to the post apocalyptic literature we're used to on this forum. However, in my view it holds promise of being a positive message for a lost young generation.
1. The book stresses the virtues of being able to survive by foraging for wild plants and hunting and trapping with snares, obtaining fresh water and shelter etc..
2. The books anti-government theme is extremely strong.It portrays the evil of the tyranny of a few over the majority.
3. It stresses the value of family and friendship over everything even at great personal sacrifice. The heroine of the story volunteers to be a tribute after her 12 year old sister is selected in the lottery.
4. It stresses the ability to defend yourself with the only weapons available to the general public which are primitive ones such as bow and arrow and knives.
5. The "Capitol" treats the games much like a combination of the TV series survivor and American Idol. The portrayal of the media hype around these deadly games looks so familiar in our current media and society that its sickening.
6. It provides an opportunity to discuss with young people what could go terribly wrong with this country resulting in a society/governemnt as fundamentally repulsive as the one protrayed in this movie.
I think this movie provides a great opportunity to have meaningful discussions with your children about how society can go so far astray, in my case grand children, about the principals/virtues which politically conservative people hold as precious.
Just my .02 cents worth.
3/22/2012 8:54:59 PM
Decent read, easy for people to comprehend, excellent message.
3/22/2012 9:34:33 PM
I am into this twiny book/movie action
I hope i don't lose my man-card
I hope i don't lose my man-card
3/22/2012 10:53:21 PM
I just read it. It's anti-gov only in a class warfare sort of way. Basically the rich keep getting rich and the poor are always poor.
You might be able to draw similarities between the district structure in the book and the Soviet Union, but I don't think the book's primary audience will come to that conclusion.
Just my observations...
You might be able to draw similarities between the district structure in the book and the Soviet Union, but I don't think the book's primary audience will come to that conclusion.
Just my observations...
3/22/2012 10:56:18 PM
Originally Posted By GrasshopperNOmore:
I just read it. It's anti-gov only in a class warfare sort of way. Basically the rich keep getting rich and the poor are always poor.
You might be able to draw similarities between the district structure in the book and the Soviet Union, but I don't think the book's primary audience will come to that conclusion.
Just my observations...
I just read it. It's anti-gov only in a class warfare sort of way. Basically the rich keep getting rich and the poor are always poor.
You might be able to draw similarities between the district structure in the book and the Soviet Union, but I don't think the book's primary audience will come to that conclusion.
Just my observations...
ETA- I did like how it portrayed the future of reality TV. Very similar to today when you consider that certain (fabricated) behaviors on those shows earns the contestent or "actor" popularity.
ETA 2- I hit quote instead of edit.
3/22/2012 11:20:55 PM
Originally Posted By Bladerunner:
Anyone read the book "Hunger Games" and/or have an interest in seing the upcoming movie?
Since we have threads on the Nat Geo preppers and survival(ist) movies, I thought this would be an appropriate discussion here.
Based on all the media hype, I downloaded the book on my Kindle and couldn't put it down. I found out after the fact that this is projected to be as popular with teens and pre-teens as the Harry Potter and Twilight series. Nonetheless, I enjoyed the book.
Its set in the post apocalpytic nation of Panem which arose after North America was destroyed and after a rebellion against the central government. Punishment for the rebellion was for each "district" to provide a boy and girl between the ages of 12 and 18 to fight each other to the death in a huge outdoor area until the last one standing is proclaimed the winner. These "tributes" are selected by lottery (reaping). The "districts" are all impoverished semi slave areas producing goods for the decadent central government "the capitol". Kids can get additional food allotments for their families by signing up for additional chances to be selected in the reapoing.
This definitely isn't up to the post apocalyptic literature we're used to on this forum. However, in my view it holds promise of being a positive message for a lost young generation.
1. The book stresses the virtues of being able to survive by foraging for wild plants and hunting and trapping with snares, obtaining fresh water and shelter etc..
2. The books anti-government theme is extremely strong.It portrays the evil of the tyranny of a few over the majority.
3. It stresses the value of family and friendship over everything even at great personal sacrifice. The heroine of the story volunteers to be a tribute after her 12 year old sister is selected in the lottery.
4. It stresses the ability to defend yourself with the only weapons available to the general public which are primitive ones such as bow and arrow and knives.
5. The "Capitol" treats the games much like a combination of the TV series survivor and American Idol. The portrayal of the media hype around these deadly games looks so familiar in our current media and society that its sickening.
6. It provides an opportunity to discuss with young people what could go terribly wrong with this country resulting in a society/governemnt as fundamentally repulsive as the one protrayed in this movie.
I think this movie provides a great opportunity to have meaningful discussions with your children about how society can go so far astray, in my case grand children, about the principals/virtues which politically conservative people hold as precious.
Just my .02 cents worth.
Anyone read the book "Hunger Games" and/or have an interest in seing the upcoming movie?
Since we have threads on the Nat Geo preppers and survival(ist) movies, I thought this would be an appropriate discussion here.
Based on all the media hype, I downloaded the book on my Kindle and couldn't put it down. I found out after the fact that this is projected to be as popular with teens and pre-teens as the Harry Potter and Twilight series. Nonetheless, I enjoyed the book.
Its set in the post apocalpytic nation of Panem which arose after North America was destroyed and after a rebellion against the central government. Punishment for the rebellion was for each "district" to provide a boy and girl between the ages of 12 and 18 to fight each other to the death in a huge outdoor area until the last one standing is proclaimed the winner. These "tributes" are selected by lottery (reaping). The "districts" are all impoverished semi slave areas producing goods for the decadent central government "the capitol". Kids can get additional food allotments for their families by signing up for additional chances to be selected in the reapoing.
This definitely isn't up to the post apocalyptic literature we're used to on this forum. However, in my view it holds promise of being a positive message for a lost young generation.
1. The book stresses the virtues of being able to survive by foraging for wild plants and hunting and trapping with snares, obtaining fresh water and shelter etc..
2. The books anti-government theme is extremely strong.It portrays the evil of the tyranny of a few over the majority.
3. It stresses the value of family and friendship over everything even at great personal sacrifice. The heroine of the story volunteers to be a tribute after her 12 year old sister is selected in the lottery.
4. It stresses the ability to defend yourself with the only weapons available to the general public which are primitive ones such as bow and arrow and knives.
5. The "Capitol" treats the games much like a combination of the TV series survivor and American Idol. The portrayal of the media hype around these deadly games looks so familiar in our current media and society that its sickening.
6. It provides an opportunity to discuss with young people what could go terribly wrong with this country resulting in a society/governemnt as fundamentally repulsive as the one protrayed in this movie.
I think this movie provides a great opportunity to have meaningful discussions with your children about how society can go so far astray, in my case grand children, about the principals/virtues which politically conservative people hold as precious.
Just my .02 cents worth.
+1... While it is clearly aimed at teenage kids/girls, I particularly liked the following:
- The protagonist understands that she is a pawn in someone else's game and that sometimes the only way to win is to refuse to play
- The "rebel" leader turns out to be almost as evil as the government that they are trying to overthrow, so the protagonist does what is right when she has the chance
- The third book, which is about the actual revolution that the protagonist instigated during the second book, is rather realistic as far as the cost of war and what it does to people is concerned. It also has pretty good small-unit urban combat scenes, and emphasizes the value of Information Operations, cyberwarfare and "propaganda" in a modern insurgency
- There is a lot of philosophizing about how to be a ruthlessly effective rebel without losing your soul in the process, and and about how "every man should own his own hand" (and not be a slave to some overbearing government). A very pro-freedom and pro-humanity message. FBHO!
3/22/2012 11:33:18 PM
How does it compare to the original version with Schwarzenegger and Richard Dawson?z
3/23/2012 12:55:31 AM
Originally Posted By GrasshopperNOmore:
I just read it. It's anti-gov only in a class warfare sort of way. Basically the rich keep getting rich and the poor are always poor.
You might be able to draw similarities between the district structure in the book and the Soviet Union, but I don't think the book's primary audience will come to that conclusion.
Just my observations...
I just read it. It's anti-gov only in a class warfare sort of way. Basically the rich keep getting rich and the poor are always poor.
You might be able to draw similarities between the district structure in the book and the Soviet Union, but I don't think the book's primary audience will come to that conclusion.
Just my observations...
I doubt if the media would allow truely anti .gov stuff to be aired....
3/23/2012 9:13:43 AM
Has anyone seen the movie? Often times these "PG13" movies have a boatload of gay crap, sex, etc.
3/23/2012 9:17:00 AM
I thought all 3 books were pretty good reads. 3 of my kids read them, and although they don't phrase things the some way we do, they sure got the same message.
3/23/2012 11:29:35 AM
Originally Posted By zoom:
How does it compare to the original version with Schwarzenegger and Richard Dawson?z
How does it compare to the original version with Schwarzenegger and Richard Dawson?z
The Running Man?
Edit: Getting topic a bit. I did not know this about the Running Man but a quick search resulted in this:
The Running Man is a science fiction novel by Stephen King, first published under the pseudonym Richard Bachman in 1982 as a paperback original. It was collected in 1985 in the hardcover omnibus The Bachman Books. The novel is set in a dystopian United States during the year 2025, in which the nation's economy is in ruins and world violence is rising.
The story follows protagonist Ben Richards as he participates in the game show The Running Man in which contestants, allowed to go anywhere in the world, are chased by "Hunters," employed to kill them.
The Running Man was loosely adapted into a film with the same name, which was released five years after the book in 1987. The film starred Arnold Schwarzenegger as Richards, Marķa Conchita Alonso, Jesse Ventura, Erland van Lidth, Jim Brown, and Richard Dawson.[1] The film was later made into a video game released on several different game consoles.[2]
3/23/2012 12:25:01 PM
I loved it, the books, the movie, the message. I saw it last night and while I wanted more Blood Guts and Gore, I do understand they are aiming for a younger audience.
Worth the money to see the movie, but as always, books were better
Worth the money to see the movie, but as always, books were better
3/23/2012 3:54:49 PM
Originally Posted By Bladerunner:
...in my view it holds promise of being a positive message for a lost young generation.
1. The book stresses the virtues of being able to survive by foraging for wild plants and hunting and trapping with snares, obtaining fresh water and shelter etc..
2. The books anti-government theme is extremely strong.It portrays the evil of the tyranny of a few over the majority.
3. It stresses the value of family and friendship over everything even at great personal sacrifice. The heroine of the story volunteers to be a tribute after her 12 year old sister is selected in the lottery.
4. It stresses the ability to defend yourself with the only weapons available to the general public which are primitive ones such as bow and arrow and knives.
5. The "Capitol" treats the games much like a combination of the TV series survivor and American Idol. The portrayal of the media hype around these deadly games looks so familiar in our current media and society that its sickening.
6. It provides an opportunity to discuss with young people what could go terribly wrong with this country resulting in a society/governemnt as fundamentally repulsive as the one protrayed in this movie.
I think this movie provides a great opportunity to have meaningful discussions with your children about how society can go so far astray, in my case grand children, about the principals/virtues which politically conservative people hold as precious.
...in my view it holds promise of being a positive message for a lost young generation.
1. The book stresses the virtues of being able to survive by foraging for wild plants and hunting and trapping with snares, obtaining fresh water and shelter etc..
2. The books anti-government theme is extremely strong.It portrays the evil of the tyranny of a few over the majority.
3. It stresses the value of family and friendship over everything even at great personal sacrifice. The heroine of the story volunteers to be a tribute after her 12 year old sister is selected in the lottery.
4. It stresses the ability to defend yourself with the only weapons available to the general public which are primitive ones such as bow and arrow and knives.
5. The "Capitol" treats the games much like a combination of the TV series survivor and American Idol. The portrayal of the media hype around these deadly games looks so familiar in our current media and society that its sickening.
6. It provides an opportunity to discuss with young people what could go terribly wrong with this country resulting in a society/governemnt as fundamentally repulsive as the one protrayed in this movie.
I think this movie provides a great opportunity to have meaningful discussions with your children about how society can go so far astray, in my case grand children, about the principals/virtues which politically conservative people hold as precious.
Absolutely right! I read the series when it first came out and loved it. I bought the first book for my daughter last week and she's nearly halfway through. I'll take her to the movie after I see it, if I decide it's not too violent.
I figure she, like other public school kids, is being brainwashed on a daily basis by the state, and it's my job to help her see the whole picture. This book is a great way to do that, IMO. This book shows how government power & control can become too much, and how it can destroy freedom and make lives miserable. It shows someone willing to fight it. Good stuff!
3/23/2012 3:56:00 PM
Originally Posted By GrasshopperNOmore:
I just read it. It's anti-gov only in a class warfare sort of way. Basically the rich keep getting rich and the poor are always poor.
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I just read it. It's anti-gov only in a class warfare sort of way. Basically the rich keep getting rich and the poor are always poor.
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I didn't get that at all - the whole story is about an oppressive government that has destroyed the freedom of the people. I don't remember ANY 'rich vs poor' aspect.
3/23/2012 4:07:16 PM
I have read all three and the discussion here is awesome - while it is not Pulitzer material it drops some pretty hefty themes on the intended audience, similar to Starship Troopers, Enders Game, etc...
It reminded me of the Long Walk by Stephen King. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Long_Walk
It reminded me of the Long Walk by Stephen King. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Long_Walk
One hundred teenage boys participate in an annual walking contest called "The Long Walk," which is the "national sport". Each Walker must maintain a speed of at least four miles per hour; if he drops below that speed for 30 seconds, he receives a verbal warning (which can be erased by walking for one hour without being warned). If a Walker with three warnings slows down again, he is "ticketed." The meaning of this term is intentionally kept vague at first, but it soon becomes clear that "buying a ticket" means to be shot dead by soldiers riding in half-tracks along the roadside. Walkers may be shot immediately for certain serious violations, such as trying to leave the road or attacking the half-track. The soldiers use electronic equipment to precisely determine a Walker's speed.
3/23/2012 4:56:55 PM
Originally Posted By GrasshopperNOmore:
I just read it. It's anti-gov only in a class warfare sort of way. Basically the rich keep getting rich and the poor are always poor.
You might be able to draw similarities between the district structure in the book and the Soviet Union, but I don't think the book's primary audience will come to that conclusion.
Just my observations...
I just read it. It's anti-gov only in a class warfare sort of way. Basically the rich keep getting rich and the poor are always poor.
You might be able to draw similarities between the district structure in the book and the Soviet Union, but I don't think the book's primary audience will come to that conclusion.
Just my observations...
What rebellion isn't a statement on classes in a society?
3/23/2012 5:11:10 PM
First book was OK....wish I could say the same about the second/third books
I'm betting the movie sucks
I'm betting the movie sucks
3/23/2012 9:46:48 PM
My wife and I read the books, really liked them although they weren't as good as the series went on.
Wife got talked into the midnight showing by her co- worker girlfriends, she was quite impressed with how they adapted the story. Said it followed the book nearly perfectly.
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Wife got talked into the midnight showing by her co- worker girlfriends, she was quite impressed with how they adapted the story. Said it followed the book nearly perfectly.
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3/24/2012 10:05:06 AM
The movie was very good and well done.
3/24/2012 4:18:41 PM
I have many teens as friends on my Facebook account, and all of them like the movie. Even though I haven't seen the movie or read the book, judging from prior discussions, I hope they learn something from this movie.
Many of them went to the 12a Fri showing I wonder how they got to school in time in the morning? But these kids are super over-achievers, many of the seniors will be going on to UC Berkeley, UCLA, Princeton, Harvard, etc, so probably not a big deal for them, since they are normally up until 2a or so anyways.
Many of them went to the 12a Fri showing I wonder how they got to school in time in the morning? But these kids are super over-achievers, many of the seniors will be going on to UC Berkeley, UCLA, Princeton, Harvard, etc, so probably not a big deal for them, since they are normally up until 2a or so anyways.
3/24/2012 4:30:48 PM
The first book was ok, the second was not so good, the third was a disaster. Collins just gave up on the third one. Very choppy, juvenile style of writing, aimed at the Twilight crowd. If any real "message" exists in the books, it is lost in the teenage love triangle.
The Hunger Games is the pre-teen adaption of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.
The Hunger Games is the pre-teen adaption of The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.
3/24/2012 5:05:32 PM
Read the book this morning. Decent read. My 7 year old really wanted to read it, but I don't think she is quite there yet. Sadly enough, it wasn't the violence I don't think she could handle, but the rather sexual descriptions in the first half of the book. Thats the problem with a second grader reading at a 7-8th grade level though, I have to pre-read a lot of the stuff she reads and weed out the inappropriate stuff.
Anyway, talking to her about the book and why she can't read it did spark a good discussion on rebellion and she did make the connection to the founding of the united states.
Reading the book does make me want to see the movie.
Anyway, talking to her about the book and why she can't read it did spark a good discussion on rebellion and she did make the connection to the founding of the united states.
Reading the book does make me want to see the movie.
3/24/2012 5:38:27 PM
Without follow up discussions with adults/parents, do any of you think this book/movie will draw the target age group to question the status quo?
3/24/2012 5:40:55 PM
Originally Posted By PATCH5:
Read the book this morning. Decent read. My 7 year old really wanted to read it, but I don't think she is quite there yet.
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Here is an opportunity to read to your child. Of course you don't have to read the sexy stuff, but just give the general gist when you get there. This may encourage your child to read more, rather than play tho silly video games, both console and handheld.
Read the book this morning. Decent read. My 7 year old really wanted to read it, but I don't think she is quite there yet.
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3/24/2012 6:17:47 PM
Watched the movie last night with my girlfriend. It stayed true to the book for the most part, but my cynical side noted the typical Hollywood changes. You know what I'm talking about...
I'm going to stand by my previous statements about class warfare for now. I haven't read the other two yet, but I'll keep my expectations low for now.
On a side note- While watching the movie, my girlfriend turned to me and told me to teach her how to skin a squirrel.... In case she needs to use it some day. Lol. I'm not sure she knows what she's getting herself into with that, but I will oblige.
I'm going to stand by my previous statements about class warfare for now. I haven't read the other two yet, but I'll keep my expectations low for now.
On a side note- While watching the movie, my girlfriend turned to me and told me to teach her how to skin a squirrel.... In case she needs to use it some day. Lol. I'm not sure she knows what she's getting herself into with that, but I will oblige.
3/24/2012 6:38:07 PM
Recipe Hunger Games.
Take 1 part 1984, 1 part Lord of the Flies and 1 part Running man. Put in blender on medium for one minute then serve immediately.
Took a car full of 13 year old girls to see it last night. I was pleasantly surprised.
Take 1 part 1984, 1 part Lord of the Flies and 1 part Running man. Put in blender on medium for one minute then serve immediately.
Took a car full of 13 year old girls to see it last night. I was pleasantly surprised.
3/24/2012 7:36:25 PM
Wife unit and I saw it today. Theatre was sold out both in Balcony, grand auditorium and Imax. We liked it. Was a good flick.
3/24/2012 9:06:42 PM
The first book covered starvation in the small towns, there was a big concern about grain and oil as being required for survival -that sort of struck me,
simple survival 101, in a fictional book, which was-not-a survival fiction story. Good book
simple survival 101, in a fictional book, which was-not-a survival fiction story. Good book
3/24/2012 10:10:48 PM
Just sat down in the theatre for the 22:30 showing, it's on seven screens out of 18.
Got my favorite seat, front row center of the elevated section. Wondering if I should have gone to see the IMAX version, but the next showing isn't until 12:45. A 12:45 showing! Clearly not just a kids movie if they are anticipating selling enough seats at that hour to make it worth staying open until after 3:00 a.m.
Got my favorite seat, front row center of the elevated section. Wondering if I should have gone to see the IMAX version, but the next showing isn't until 12:45. A 12:45 showing! Clearly not just a kids movie if they are anticipating selling enough seats at that hour to make it worth staying open until after 3:00 a.m.
3/24/2012 11:05:19 PM
Originally Posted By warlord:
Originally Posted By PATCH5:
Read the book this morning. Decent read. My 7 year old really wanted to read it, but I don't think she is quite there yet.
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Here is an opportunity to read to your child. Of course you don't have to read the sexy stuff, but just give the general gist when you get there. This may encourage your child to read more, rather than play tho silly video games, both console and handheld.
Read the book this morning. Decent read. My 7 year old really wanted to read it, but I don't think she is quite there yet.
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We're past the point of us reading to her. She reads ahead and is ready for us to turn the page before we are halfway done reading it to her. Reading is definitely her strong suit. She is a year early second grader and is working reading at a 7th grade level. Her schools reading grades are based on a points system and are self paced. She finished the quarter with a 1,719%. (She needed 17 points for a perfect reading score, she had 275) I'm on a first name basis with her school librarian, the city librarian that her school is in and the county librarian as well.
We actually have to tell her not to read. She doesn't play video games, has no interest in them, other than angry birds. She'll play angry birds if we are waiting somewhere and she finishes her book.
It is actually getting difficult finding books that challenge her without sexual content. She's right in that young adult/teen level where the books are heavy on romance.
We are very lucky with her. Linguistically, she is a genius. She's a heck of a shot with a bow and arrow too!
3/25/2012 2:48:36 AM
Well worth going to see this flick. The wife and I were pleasantly surprised!
3/26/2012 1:38:50 PM
Unfortunately I am guessing that the 99%er/occupy idiots will see the message as more on their side against the big bad conservative/republicans. They're ignorance will make them think they are the rebels...
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
3/26/2012 2:17:25 PM
Read all three books, and saw movie with my daughters. My 2 cents....You have a book about an out-of-touch capital/central governemnt, which bleeds the rest of the country dry while they live in opulence, have unlimited resources, perosnal security forces, great medical care and technology, while holding the "bumpkins" who provide this for them in chains and treat them with contempt: hmm, 5 of 10 richest counites in US now surround Washington, D.C.; we in fly-over country feed the rest of the country, it takes 25 minutes to get a deptuty to my door, and taxes and healthcare are bankrupting my family even while we work harder than ever....Oh, and our "glorious leader" can spend over 400 million since entering office on vacations for himself and members of his family, while we can no longer afford a week at Cedar Point....
3/26/2012 2:56:42 PM
Originally Posted By sefus:
Unfortunately I am guessing that the 99%er/occupy idiots will see the message as more on their side against the big bad conservative/republicans. They're ignorance will make them think they are the rebels...
Thoughts?
Unfortunately I am guessing that the 99%er/occupy idiots will see the message as more on their side against the big bad conservative/republicans. They're ignorance will make them think they are the rebels...
Thoughts?
Sadly, I imagine you are spot on.
3/26/2012 3:34:57 PM
Originally Posted By sefus:
Unfortunately I am guessing that the 99%er/occupy idiots will see the message as more on their side against the big bad conservative/republicans. They're ignorance will make them think they are the rebels...
Thoughts?
Unfortunately I am guessing that the 99%er/occupy idiots will see the message as more on their side against the big bad conservative/republicans. They're ignorance will make them think they are the rebels...
Thoughts?
Who cares?
When hasn't the left skewed everything the way they want to see it?
3/26/2012 5:49:43 PM
Originally Posted By dmb4765:
.Oh, and our "glorious leader" can spend over 400 million since entering office on vacations for himself and members of his family, while we can no longer afford a week at Cedar Point....
.Oh, and our "glorious leader" can spend over 400 million since entering office on vacations for himself and members of his family, while we can no longer afford a week at Cedar Point....
The India/Indonesia trip cost us $One Billion
3/26/2012 7:46:48 PM
I saw the movie last night with my wife and was pleasantly surprised. My daughter read the book and saw the movie. The movie provided a great spring board to the depend on yourself discussion.
3/27/2012 8:26:09 AM
any book/movie that is a huge hit with pre pubescent girls is probably not going to interest me. 
3/27/2012 7:09:44 PM
I liked it. Had no expecations and was suprised.
4/7/2012 8:00:32 PM
Saw it last night with the kids. It was good.
Not to much hunger in the hunger games though.
Not to much hunger in the hunger games though.
4/9/2012 1:59:25 PM
Originally Posted By BRONZ:
Saw it last night with the kids. It was good.
Not to much hunger in the hunger games though.
Saw it last night with the kids. It was good.
Not to much hunger in the hunger games though.
In the book it spends more time showing how the people are starving and have to engage in black market trade etc to keep alive. That's why she is good with the bow to begin with - her dad used to illegally hunt and stash the bow & arrows out in the woods; when he died, she took it up to keep the family fed.
4/9/2012 2:17:02 PM
I liked Tam's comment about this movie versus the other 'young adult' franchise, Twilight.
"Further, I'd rather have today's teens reading about the dangers of oppressive governments and needing arms to revolt against them than daydreaming about being date-raped by the undead. "
I liked the movie and it made me very interested in reading the books. (Thats the sign of a good movie, right there.) Wound up reading all three books over the next couple days.
"Further, I'd rather have today's teens reading about the dangers of oppressive governments and needing arms to revolt against them than daydreaming about being date-raped by the undead. "
I liked the movie and it made me very interested in reading the books. (Thats the sign of a good movie, right there.) Wound up reading all three books over the next couple days.
4/9/2012 7:59:05 PM
Saw it this weekend. Pretty good movie, mostly thanks to the girl, she's the one from Winter's Bone, a rather good actress.
It is a tween type of movie, think Twilight with a less crappy story and a few actual lessons to be learned if the viewer cares enough.
Besides the obvious survival theme, what I think is even more relevant is how this futuristic, post collapse government turned into a dictatorship and people have become simple slaves for the most.
The cheering of the "capitol" citzens as they watch the final evolution of realty tv (people actually killing themselves, plain and simple) was also a good point and hopefuly some food for thought for the coming generations.
FerFAL
It is a tween type of movie, think Twilight with a less crappy story and a few actual lessons to be learned if the viewer cares enough.
Besides the obvious survival theme, what I think is even more relevant is how this futuristic, post collapse government turned into a dictatorship and people have become simple slaves for the most.
The cheering of the "capitol" citzens as they watch the final evolution of realty tv (people actually killing themselves, plain and simple) was also a good point and hopefuly some food for thought for the coming generations.
FerFAL
4/9/2012 9:51:42 PM
Decent move and story line. Definately worth seeing!
