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airgunner  [Team Member]
4/11/2012 9:42:51 AM
Looking to pick up a good quality 2 burner camp stove for camping (duh) and as a backup SHTF stove. I know Colemans are the defacto standard and I was wanting a dual fuel model because I already have a Coleman dual fuel lantern (285 series) and single burner stove (533) but to be honest, I just don't care for the Coleman dual fuel camp stoves. They seem big, bulky, heavy and yet not very well made. I also looked at their propane stoves but they don't seem as well made as their old ones?

I did however recently come across the Primus 2 burner camp stove and they seem to be pretty well built? I know in general Primus has a good rep but I'm not sure about their camp stove line? Also, Primus's web site only shows the Profile series but online I also see an "Alti" model that looks similar? Is the Alti model just a older version of the Profile model?

Any other brands\models I should be looking at?
Centuryhouse  [Member]
4/11/2012 12:14:22 PM
As to Coleman - bear in mind there are two sizes of double burner dual fuel Colemans - one is huge, the other is pretty small. As to 'not very well made', I have three of them that are 45+ years old and still work as good as new. That should say something.
airgunner  [Team Member]
4/11/2012 3:51:58 PM
Originally Posted By Centuryhouse:
As to Coleman - bear in mind there are two sizes of double burner dual fuel Colemans - one is huge, the other is pretty small. As to 'not very well made', I have three of them that are 45+ years old and still work as good as new. That should say something.

Glad to hear that but I'd bet a NIB Coleman is not made to the same standard as the 45+ year old ones. That and you would think that in that amount of time they could have updated the design some.

I'm not saying the new ones are crap - Just that they aren't impressing me much and I'd like to know what else is available and what others are using and their experiences. Thanks for sharing yours

hkmp5s  [Team Member]
4/11/2012 6:13:56 PM
Try buying a older one off of ebay.
paddymurphy  [Team Member]
4/11/2012 10:44:02 PM
Originally Posted By hkmp5s:
Try buying a older one off of ebay.


Or auctions and yard sales. In the last year I have picked up a coleman kero lantern and stove and two propane lanterns. The most I paid for any of them was around $7.50
ilbob  [Member]
4/12/2012 7:55:39 AM
Originally Posted By paddymurphy:
Originally Posted By hkmp5s:
Try buying a older one off of ebay.


Or auctions and yard sales. In the last year I have picked up a coleman kero lantern and stove and two propane lanterns. The most I paid for any of them was around $7.50


around here they would probably want at least $40 for a 2 burner coleman stove of any kind.
Quarterbore  [Moderator]
4/12/2012 10:39:52 AM
Originally Posted By ilbob:
Originally Posted By paddymurphy:
Originally Posted By hkmp5s:
Try buying a older one off of ebay.


Or auctions and yard sales. In the last year I have picked up a coleman kero lantern and stove and two propane lanterns. The most I paid for any of them was around $7.50


around here they would probably want at least $40 for a 2 burner coleman stove of any kind.


You have to be patient and EARLY! I was doing yard sales with my daughter last summer and I picked up a duel fuel coleman for $10. The stove is a 1960s model as I recall and it was in really great shape. The person selling it really considered it just an old stove that was in there way too long. My goal this year is to try to get some Coleman Lanterns at a good price

For a camp stove, I prefer the Coleman stoves as they extra size and weight is better for that then the lighter pack type stoves.

airgunner  [Team Member]
4/12/2012 11:14:29 AM
Guys,

I don't have time or patience for a yard sales. Too much wasted time looking at junk. I'm looking for something I can buy or order right now. Does anybody have input on any other options like the Primus?

Thanks
Centuryhouse  [Member]
4/12/2012 12:25:07 PM
Originally Posted By airgunner:
Originally Posted By Centuryhouse:
As to Coleman - bear in mind there are two sizes of double burner dual fuel Colemans - one is huge, the other is pretty small. As to 'not very well made', I have three of them that are 45+ years old and still work as good as new. That should say something.

Glad to hear that but I'd bet a NIB Coleman is not made to the same standard as the 45+ year old ones. That and you would think that in that amount of time they could have updated the design some.

I'm not saying the new ones are crap - Just that they aren't impressing me much and I'd like to know what else is available and what others are using and their experiences. Thanks for sharing yours



I've gotten two newer Colemans that were still in the box (used, $15 for one and $20 for the other). I'll let you know in 45 years if they held up the way the old ones did
warlord  [Member]
4/12/2012 12:39:53 PM
Originally Posted By airgunner:
Guys,

I don't have time or patience for a yard sales. Too much wasted time looking at junk. I'm looking for something I can buy or order right now. Does anybody have input on any other options like the Primus?

Thanks
I would go with either. I know people who bought both. Just stay away from the PRC made ones, actually I don't know about them, but those DON'T seem to have a sterling reputation for quality. Spend the extra bucks and some good stoves and they won't fail you at the most in-opportune moment.

Get the dual fuel models(ie automotive gasoline or propane), worth the extra money because it gives you extra options.
cmw  [Member]
4/12/2012 4:35:49 PM
As a dedicated "dual fuel" gasoline stove and lamp junkie it is hard to admit, but my little two-burner Coleman propane stove goes on all the (car) camping trips now.

A pound canister of propane lasts close to a week with typical two-person cooking; including pasta meals and heating water for dishes.

Having gasoline stoves and lanterns for TEOTWAWKI makes a lot of sense -but the convenience of propane has got me hooked as far as casual use goes.

Last I saw Walmart sells some clone of the more recent Coleman stove pretty cheaply, and it looks about the same quality.


ETA:
The Primus Atle stove looks pretty sweet and not much more money than a Coleman...I say get that.
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DSRV  [Team Member]
4/12/2012 4:53:12 PM

Originally Posted By cmw:
As a dedicated "dual fuel" gasoline stove and lamp junkie it is hard to admit, but my little two-burner Coleman propane stove goes on all the (car) camping trips now.

A pound canister of propane lasts close to a week with typical two-person cooking; including pasta meals and heating water for dishes.

Having gasoline stoves and lanterns for TEOTWAWKI makes a lot of sense -but the convenience of propane has got me hooked as far as casual use goes.

Last I saw Walmart sells some clone of the more recent Coleman stove pretty cheaply, and it looks about the same quality.


ETA:
The Primus Atle stove looks pretty sweet and not much more money than a Coleman...I say get that.
.


I have this strictly for emergency cooking. Seems okay for my intended use. Also have the adapter and hose to run off both the 1# and 20# tanks.


airgunner  [Team Member]
4/12/2012 10:06:11 PM
Originally Posted By warlord:
Get the dual fuel models(ie automotive gasoline or propane), worth the extra money because it gives you extra options.

Is there such a stove? The Colemans duals just gives you the option between Coleman fuel and unleaded gas.

arcticwarrior  [Team Member]
4/12/2012 10:20:30 PM
Vargo is what I have. I never have to take any fuel with me as it's everywhere.
airgunner  [Team Member]
4/12/2012 10:26:26 PM
Originally Posted By arcticwarrior:
Vargo is what I have. I never have to take any fuel with me as it's everywhere.


Cute - and how long does it take to cook a meal for a family of 4 with that thing?
JoeRedman  [Team Member]
4/13/2012 9:13:06 AM
Originally Posted By airgunner:
Originally Posted By warlord:
Get the dual fuel models(ie automotive gasoline or propane), worth the extra money because it gives you extra options.

Is there such a stove? The Colemans duals just gives you the option between Coleman fuel and unleaded gas.



The Coleman stoves have an 'adapter' that will let you burn propane along with Coleman gas/unleaded.
airgunner  [Team Member]
4/13/2012 3:06:22 PM
Originally Posted By JoeRedman:
Originally Posted By airgunner:
Originally Posted By warlord:
Get the dual fuel models(ie automotive gasoline or propane), worth the extra money because it gives you extra options.

Is there such a stove? The Colemans duals just gives you the option between Coleman fuel and unleaded gas.



The Coleman stoves have an 'adapter' that will let you burn propane along with Coleman gas/unleaded.


I did not know that. I guess that is another plus for the Coleman.

drumer-b  [Team Member]
4/15/2012 9:12:55 PM
I just got a 3 burner coleman from my Dad today its in great condition probably a good 40 years old. My question is will the old ones burn anything besides coleman fuel?
Centuryhouse  [Member]
4/16/2012 12:47:45 PM
Originally Posted By drumer-b:
I just got a 3 burner coleman from my Dad today its in great condition probably a good 40 years old. My question is will the old ones burn anything besides coleman fuel?



No - the older Colemans just burn the Coleman type fuel, not unleaded.
airgunner  [Team Member]
4/16/2012 1:06:28 PM
Originally Posted By JoeRedman:
The Coleman stoves have an 'adapter' that will let you burn propane along with Coleman gas/unleaded.

Does Coleman make that type of adapter? I found one made by Century Tool that gets good reviews but I haven't found a Coleman made adapter?

As kind of a side note, I found out that the Primus camp stoves are actually made by Century Tool as well so they are not Swedish made or comparable to their other smaller hiking stoves. On the up side, up until recently at least, all Century products were US made but I'm not sure if that's still the case? Most reviews for the Primus Alte stove are pretty favorable and it has some nice improvements over the Coleman equivalents such as cooking area and a hose (instead of a hard line) to connect to the fuel canisters.

Its looking like a good stove but I'm really tempted by the idea of a Coleman tri-fuel setup (Unleaded gas, Coleman fuel or propane). I have seen other posts that seem to indicate it may even be possible make some other mods to allow it to run off of Kerosene as well making it a quad fuel setup? Anybody know anything about that?

From the reading I've seen there are basically 3 different Coleman liquid fuel dual burner stoves. (not to include 3 burner models or older models no longer made). The 425 is the single fuel model. The 424 is the dual fuel version and then there is the 424 Powerhouse which is a 424 model with more powerful burners and a larger tank. Seems like between the 3 the powerhouse model would be the one to get or is the standard 424 model good enough? Do these stoves have some sort or regulator or way to control output (i.e. full boil vs simmer)? Do these stoves maintain a simmer well? Other then cost, is there a reason to buy and older one or to avoid a newer one?
drobs  [Team Member]
4/16/2012 5:11:49 PM
Originally Posted By Centuryhouse:
Originally Posted By airgunner:
Originally Posted By Centuryhouse:
As to Coleman - bear in mind there are two sizes of double burner dual fuel Colemans - one is huge, the other is pretty small. As to 'not very well made', I have three of them that are 45+ years old and still work as good as new. That should say something.

Glad to hear that but I'd bet a NIB Coleman is not made to the same standard as the 45+ year old ones. That and you would think that in that amount of time they could have updated the design some.

I'm not saying the new ones are crap - Just that they aren't impressing me much and I'd like to know what else is available and what others are using and their experiences. Thanks for sharing yours



I've gotten two newer Colemans that were still in the box (used, $15 for one and $20 for the other). I'll let you know in 45 years if they held up the way the old ones did


+1 I have there single burner dual fuel stove (bought brand new a few years ago) and love it.
Sure it's big but it works just fine.
Made in the USA too.

Picked up a 2 burner at a garage sale a couple weeks ago for $20. Look NIB from who knows how long ago.


85blazer  [Team Member]
4/24/2012 6:19:36 PM
I'm a bit of a Coleman lantern collector and find stoves $10-20 all the time.
In fact,I'm not allowed to bring home anymore stoves
GI Stoves



But honey,I got it for free with the 2 lanterns

have about 5-6 duel burners and way more ways to cook than food to cook.
Also white gas last a long time,I often get a free can with purchase of a $5-10.00 lantern from people on CL.
Check out Craigslist or place a WTB add.
CarbineDad  [Team Member]
4/24/2012 7:59:42 PM
Originally Posted By 85blazer:
I'm a bit of a Coleman lantern collector and find stoves $10-20 all the time.
In fact,I'm not allowed to bring home anymore stoves
GI Stoves
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z83/jaxtraxx/022.jpg
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z83/jaxtraxx/034-1.jpg
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z83/jaxtraxx/003.jpg
But honey,I got it for free with the 2 lanterns
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z83/jaxtraxx/001.jpg
have about 5-6 duel burners and way more ways to cook than food to cook.
Also white gas last a long time,I often get a free can with purchase of a $5-10.00 lantern from people on CL.
Check out Craigslist or place a WTB add.


I have NEVER seen one of those two burners.

I AM familar with the post war single burners though



This was my Uncle's, who I believe bought it new. I have probably lit that twice in the 20 plus years I have had it, That heat tint is his, and I'm not planning to clean it up.
Lost_River  [Member]
5/6/2012 4:39:46 PM
I have a little multi-fuel Coleman that I use on a regular basis. I primarily just use unleaded in it.

This last week I ran some chainsaw gas-oil mix I had in a gas can up at my cabin. Ran just fine. The stove gets used pretty much year round, as I keep it in a pack that goes wherever I go.

This last week I was at my cabin and I cooked all of my meals on it, plus morning and afternoon coffee.



It is nothing fancy, but it seems to run one heck of a long time on a little tank of fuel and boils anything fast.

I have it pictured with one of my little alcohol cat stove kits that I carry with me in my pack.
I keep some VIA instant coffee, sugar, matches, etc and cat stove kit w/ alcohol in a few of my packs.

Centuryhouse  [Member]
5/7/2012 4:35:12 PM
Originally Posted By 85blazer:
I'm a bit of a Coleman lantern collector and find stoves $10-20 all the time.
In fact,I'm not allowed to bring home anymore stoves
GI Stoves
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z83/jaxtraxx/022.jpg
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z83/jaxtraxx/034-1.jpg
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z83/jaxtraxx/003.jpg
But honey,I got it for free with the 2 lanterns
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z83/jaxtraxx/001.jpg
have about 5-6 duel burners and way more ways to cook than food to cook.
Also white gas last a long time,I often get a free can with purchase of a $5-10.00 lantern from people on CL.
Check out Craigslist or place a WTB add.


I like the way you think

I have around 15 Coleman stoves, 3 propane stoves, and maybe 7 or 8 of their dual fuel and propane lanterns.
jvm  [Team Member]
5/8/2012 10:41:10 AM
Anyone have a web site for the propane adapter??Thanks
airgunner  [Team Member]
5/9/2012 12:05:28 PM
Originally Posted By jvm:
Anyone have a web site for the propane adapter??Thanks

Century Regulated Propane Converter
nimrag  [Member]
5/18/2012 10:11:45 PM
http://beprepared.com/product.asp?pn=CK%20S590&sid=GOOGLELA&EID=GLACK%20S590&gclid=CN-hqPiii7ACFYQGRQodjUGdrg

Here is what I have. It will burn with propane, wood or charcoal. Perfect for dutch oven cooking.
Baldmonk  [Member]
5/20/2012 10:37:57 AM
Look for a OPTIMUS HIKER. They are made in Sweden They will burn Diesel, Vegtable Oil, Gas, Alcohol, JP5, Kerosene, Parafin, and damn near any other type of fuel.