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MichigamaGunslinger  [Team Member]
2/10/2010 4:44:23 PM
Not saying I'm against it, however I usually plan on eating anything I kill. I will not be eating a dog, so whats the practical/positive reason for coyote hunting? How does it help with wildlife management and the environment?

I'm speaking specifically about hunting coyotes in MICHIGAN. I'm sure there are different sets of reason for other parts of the country.

Mike
P08  [Team Member]
2/10/2010 4:58:23 PM
I want to hunt and kill them to help out my population of pheasant, quail and turkey. Too many predators is a bad thing.
MichigamaGunslinger  [Team Member]
2/10/2010 5:00:28 PM

Originally Posted By P08:
I want to hunt and kill them to help out my population of pheasant, quail and turkey. Too many predators is a bad thing.

Is there an overflow of them right now? Just curious. Also, is the wolf a predator of the coyote?
HardShell  [Life Member]
2/10/2010 5:09:28 PM
In my case, to protect our pets and farm animals. Pest/threat control, plain and simple.

Wdsman  [Team Member]
2/10/2010 5:35:50 PM
Predator Control - Around here they not only attack game animals, but have been known to attack livestock occassionaly as well. People NOT hunting them has also led to Coyotes beginning to hunt people. Recently a Canadian singer was killed and partially eaten by a pack.

As for killing what you eat, I remember a thread (survival forum?) where an Arfcommer killed and ate a yote. They are edible.

In some places you can also sell the fur. Around here they're usually too mangy, but elsewhere they can have a pretty pelt.

Also as Old Painless often reminds us, "Shooting stuff is fun."
Texkaw  [Member]
2/10/2010 5:39:07 PM


I can see hunting them to prevent predation of livestock, or nuisance.

I don't judge those who hunt predators, I just won't do it for any but one of the above reasons, or it is a danger scenario (pissed off bear or cougar).

I feel there is enough game out there for all of us predators.
P08  [Team Member]
2/10/2010 6:23:26 PM

Originally Posted By MichigamaGunslinger:

Originally Posted By P08:
I want to hunt and kill them to help out my population of pheasant, quail and turkey. Too many predators is a bad thing.

Is there an overflow of them right now? Just curious. Also, is the wolf a predator of the coyote?
They are abundant in central Illinois. A wolf may be a predator of a coyote, but seeing as we don't have wolves here it is a moot point.

Seabee_Mech  [Team Member]
2/10/2010 7:13:40 PM
The coyote population is booming where I live in NW Michigan.


Back when fur prices where high the population was kept in check, you could make $60-$80 dollars on a good coyote hide. The fur market has been in the toilet for several years and the populations are growing as hunting has dropped off.

Coyotes can wreck havoc on deer herds, game birds, livestock and pets, when hunting drops off the population of coyotes grows and in the search of food they will start hunting closer and closer to peoples homes as they loose the fear of humans, some may even get bold enough to attack humans.

Last winter they were getting so bold that I was seeing them around the house during the day, it didn't take long for the survives to learn to stay further out from the house.

Lately I've noticed a few tracks starting to show up on the property again, it's about time to get a couple of more hides.


MichigamaGunslinger  [Team Member]
2/10/2010 9:38:43 PM
I live in South East Michigan, around the area where US-23 and I-96 meet

Is there a problem with coyotes over here? Where would be a good place to hunt them (within the area)?

That's pretty scary that they actually attack humans, I thought they only went as far as killing livestock.
ohiobob  [Team Member]
2/10/2010 11:36:49 PM
I love Killing Coyotes, they are a menace to livestock and have ate the neighbors sheep and goats up, also calving season is fun and they prey on Wildlife so I love shooting the bastards, it isn't as easy as everyone thinks to kill one either.
I also love shooting the hell out of Crows and I sure as hell am not eating one of those bastards either
XSabers  [Team Member]
2/11/2010 1:44:12 PM
Coyotes are one of the major predators of fawns and ground nesting birds (water fowl, pheasants, turkeys, etc.). Up here in the mountains we've got coyotes, wolves, cougars, and bears, both black and grizzly. Wolves will kill or run off coyotes. They don't coexist peacefully.

Check out: Anatomy of a coyote Attack

Or: Bounties -

Can Coyotes Stifle Deer Herds?

I trap them and shoot them when possible. Hides are worth a few bucks these days (depends on where they come from) but it helps relieve predation pressure on game species I want to eat.
MichigamaGunslinger  [Team Member]
2/11/2010 7:01:07 PM

Originally Posted By XSabers:
Coyotes are one of the major predators of fawns and ground nesting birds (water fowl, pheasants, turkeys, etc.). Up here in the mountains we've got coyotes, wolves, cougars, and bears, both black and grizzly. Wolves will kill or run off coyotes. They don't coexist peacefully.

Check out: Anatomy of a coyote Attack

Or: Bounties -

Can Coyotes Stifle Deer Herds?

I trap them and shoot them when possible. Hides are worth a few bucks these days (depends on where they come from) but it helps relieve predation pressure on game species I want to eat.

Interesting, I didn't know this. Just curious whats the average price a good hide could fetch and who would you sell them to?

Afterwork_Ninja  [Team Member]
2/11/2010 7:20:55 PM
Originally Posted By HardShell:
In my case, to protect our pets and farm animals. Pest/threat control, plain and simple.



This along with population control. You should hear how may of those bastards are around here at night.
rike  [Team Member]
2/11/2010 7:21:34 PM
Killing vermin is good clean fun.
DanaHillen  [Team Member]
2/11/2010 7:44:52 PM
killed by a coyote............
Seabee_Mech  [Team Member]
2/11/2010 7:54:50 PM
Originally Posted By MichigamaGunslinger:

Originally Posted By XSabers:
Coyotes are one of the major predators of fawns and ground nesting birds (water fowl, pheasants, turkeys, etc.). Up here in the mountains we've got coyotes, wolves, cougars, and bears, both black and grizzly. Wolves will kill or run off coyotes. They don't coexist peacefully.

Check out: Anatomy of a coyote Attack

Or: Bounties -

Can Coyotes Stifle Deer Herds?

I trap them and shoot them when possible. Hides are worth a few bucks these days (depends on where they come from) but it helps relieve predation pressure on game species I want to eat.

Interesting, I didn't know this. Just curious whats the average price a good hide could fetch and who would you sell them to?






Eastern Coyotes are going for $15-$20 for the better pelts and under $10 for lesser grade pelts.

Fur-Fish-Game magazine ( http://www.furfishgame.com/ ) lists average prices and has many adds for buyers around the country.


It would be best to find someone local to show you the ropes, Michigan coyote hunting is a little more regulated (A lot more rules) compared to many western states that allow 365/24/7 shoot on sight when it comes to coyotes.

You also want to have someone show you how to properly prepare the pelts if you're looking to sell them, it's easy to ruin the value of the pelt if you're not sure how to do it.
olympus  [Member]
2/11/2010 11:16:56 PM
I'm going coyote hunting this weekend for the first time, and am doing it simply for sport. I have an interest in trying something new- hunting a predator instead of turkeys or deer. My opinion is that if the Department of Wildlife or whichever agency manages the hunting licenses for your state gives you an O.K. to hunt them, there must not be any problem with killing them. If their population was in danger or didn't need controlling, they would be illegal to hunt. Helping out local ranchers is also a plus, but is a secondary interest to me.
0351-ROCKETS  [Team Member]
2/11/2010 11:44:55 PM
Originally Posted By HardShell:
In my case, to protect our pets and farm animals. Pest/threat control, plain and simple.



We are overrun with them in my area, to the point where they are getting hit on highway.
postpostban  [Team Member]
2/12/2010 12:17:01 AM
Hunting predators is a real challenge. I consider any coyote kill better than a deer. I won't think twice about ruining a day deer hunting if it means I kill a coyote.
Depidy_Dawg  [Team Member]
2/12/2010 12:27:56 AM
Just went coyote hunting a few weeks ago on a 120,000 acre ranch west of town. Saw lots of them, tried calling them in, but they wer skittish as hell. Coyotes around here are thick as hell. oh, and we found some big ass wolf tracks. The local game and fish guys say there are no wolves in the area. Yeeeeeeaaaah, right.
firemed13  [Team Member]
2/12/2010 10:42:21 AM
I hunt yotes for: Almost the only game you can use a rifle to hunt in Illinois, why not hunt a predator? I think its more a challenge than waiting for a deer in a elevated tree stand. Also here in Illinois the yote population is booming and they have killed several livestock in the area I hunt.
ThirtyCal_FAL  [Member]
2/12/2010 12:23:23 PM
Originally Posted By postpostban:
Hunting predators is a real challenge. I consider any coyote kill better than a deer. I won't think twice about ruining a day deer hunting if it means I kill a coyote.


Absolutely agree. Should I spot a coyote during a legal hunt from here on out, he's toast. I taken a lot of deer over the years and have yet to shoot a coyote.

A coworker of mine from Indiana leases land to hunt deer on and he told me that his (and surrounding) property has a lot of coyotes. We're planning a hunt this spring if we can find the time and its legal. He didn't know the laws of Indiana pertaining to hunting them and neither do I at the moment.
elkoholic  [Member]
2/13/2010 7:06:07 PM
They are major dent to population on incoming antelope, elk, and deer!

Rattlehead502  [Team Member]
2/14/2010 8:53:11 AM
Originally Posted By P08:

Originally Posted By MichigamaGunslinger:

Originally Posted By P08:
I want to hunt and kill them to help out my population of pheasant, quail and turkey. Too many predators is a bad thing.

Is there an overflow of them right now? Just curious. Also, is the wolf a predator of the coyote?
They are abundant in central Illinois. A wolf may be a predator of a coyote, but seeing as we don't have wolves here it is a moot point.



I've heard some unconfirmed rumors that wolves and other predators might be eventually reintroduced here in IL to help control the coyotes. A taxidermist I ran into at work mentioned that a he had a customer from south of Springfield bring in a cougar for mounting that had a IL DNR tag attached. Rumors and sightings of large cats have been reported within the Decatur-Springfield corridor since at least the 70's.

I've taken up coyotes recently due to their over-population in my area, and also due to the fact that I can use a rifle and hunt at night during the winter. If nothing else hunting coyote is a good exercise in scent-management and stalking skills used for hunting other species. I find predator hunting a little more "fair" and intense that deer.
ravinluna  [Member]
2/15/2010 11:21:36 AM
Coyotes have become downright scarce around SW MT as we have an abundance of WOLVES. Yes wolves kill coyotes on sight. The deer populations are really getting hammered by damn fed mandated wolves.
RunsWithScissors  [Team Member]
2/15/2010 11:38:37 AM
Coyote are not indigineous to most of the areas they now over populate.

They are thought to have been of western origin, but now have 19 different subspecies
All over the US, south/central america, and Canada. They have thrived amongst humans,
where wolves have not.
325moutguru  [Team Member]
2/15/2010 11:55:57 AM
I do it because the fuckers kill off my Uncle's cattle.
Last year they ate one of his calves and the year before that they killed a cow.


Besides it gives me good reason to go low crawling around in my ghillie and shoot moving targets.
HAGDADDY  [Member]
2/15/2010 12:10:05 PM
I hunt coyotes for all the above posted reasons. But the main reason is the challenge. There is nothing like calling in a coyote and successfully pulling off a shot. Imagine the intelligence of your average Lab and throw in the natural predator instinct and cunning. If you can call one in and get it killed, I feel you've really accomplished something. I am a whitetail deer junky, but I have more fun calling coyotes.
Rocksarge  [Team Member]
2/15/2010 12:42:41 PM
is that a papillon?
Originally Posted By DanaHillen:
killed by a coyote............
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/DanaHillen/GEDC0008-4.jpg


Texican_Hairless  [Member]
2/15/2010 3:36:56 PM
Originally Posted By HAGDADDY:
I hunt coyotes for all the above posted reasons. But the main reason is the challenge. There is nothing like calling in a coyote and successfully pulling off a shot. Imagine the intelligence of your average Lab and throw in the natural predator instinct and cunning. If you can call one in and get it killed, I feel you've really accomplished something. I am a whitetail deer junky, but I have more fun calling coyotes.


+1 to that!
Blackgun73  [Member]
2/19/2010 12:35:11 AM
Coyote numbers have been increasing for years in my area. They have really had a huge impact on small game. It is almost impossible to find a cottontail or a groundhog around here anymore. They used to be everywhere. The quail population has suffered greatly also. They have more problems than coyotes, but they have not helped. Feral cats are really tough on the quail. I won't pass an opporunity on those either. There is no telling how many pets have been killed by coyotes. There are parks in the Nashville area where coyotes have attacked pets while being walked on a leash. It is now prohibited to have pets in some of the parks during certain times of the year because of this.
Cacinok  [Team Member]
2/25/2010 1:20:06 PM
Originally Posted By Wdsman:
Predator Control - Around here they not only attack game animals, but have been known to attack livestock occassionaly as well. People NOT hunting them has also led to Coyotes beginning to hunt people. Recently a Canadian singer was killed and partially eaten by a pack.

As for killing what you eat, I remember a thread (survival forum?) where an Arfcommer killed and ate a yote. They are edible.

In some places you can also sell the fur. Around here they're usually too mangy, but elsewhere they can have a pretty pelt.

Also as Old Painless often reminds us, "Shooting stuff is fun."


that would be rizzo, and iirc, the thread is tacked in the top of this forum.
shadow_walker  [Team Member]
2/25/2010 7:29:08 PM
Originally Posted By postpostban:
Hunting predators is a real challenge. I consider any coyote kill better than a deer. I won't think twice about ruining a day deer hunting if it means I kill a coyote.


I thought I was alone in shooting a coyote from my deer stand .



Wormydog1724  [Team Member]
2/25/2010 9:54:38 PM
Overpopulation can be a problem. Disease and starvation can lead to wild behavior, including attacking family pets and on the extreme, family members. Livestock depredation is why we do it.

5 months worth of killing Nov 2008 - March 2009


Disease



Two days worth of killing Feb 13 & 14, 2010




Plus it beats the hell out of watching T.V. all day.
shootemup123  [Member]
3/5/2010 9:11:36 AM
WOW!! I'm moving to Oklahoma!!
Bushmaster1984  [Team Member]
3/5/2010 9:18:23 AM
I love killing those damn things...they are pests, let the crows have 'em
Whisper44  [Team Member]
3/12/2010 5:03:59 AM
Hunting predators brings balance to the wildlife equation. Too many and they do themselves no good (starvation, disease and a threat to human interests)
Too few and we have wildlife overpopulating themselves out of their habitat which would lead to starvation, disease and eventual decrease in wildlife populations.
We (humans) are tasked with managing our lands, wildlife and planet and by helping manage predator populations. I'm happy to do my part......
Off-Grid  [Team Member]
3/12/2010 4:28:50 PM
We have em running around most of the time but for the most part we don’t mess with them.

They do a good job of getting squirrels and rabbits which saves me money on ammo and poison.

But when you find a calf that you have to put out of its misery because the coyotes ate the ass end or half the guts out of it, well it quickly turns into open season for a while.
RenegadeX  [Team Member]
3/12/2010 4:31:24 PM
25 yards off my back porch.

Righteous  [Member]
3/12/2010 10:40:40 PM
Originally Posted By RenegadeX:
25 yards off my back porch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chrxIWunI1Y


Renegade.... no boom, pow or tift sounds to be heard.....

shear disappointment from the north on this one....

yekimak  [Team Member]
3/12/2010 11:30:44 PM
I was talking to a local about it today. Yote's have killed off the fox population around here so that is why he hunts them.
godsdaddy  [Team Member]
3/12/2010 11:33:47 PM
Originally Posted By rike:
Killing vermin is good clean fun.


^ This. Plus, when something causes the hair to stand up on the back of my neck, after three tours in the desert, it WILL be exterminated with extreme prejudice. My deer herd/neighbors livestock/my pets all would be in the food chain on these fuckers, so I will trap/shoot/nuke from orbit them mercilessly. Natural preditation of certain species is the norm... mange, rabies, distemper, and being a general blight are not. Shoot on site orders for coyotes on any land I own/lease/belong to/am standing on. That is all.
Flyinlow78  [Team Member]
3/21/2010 4:06:20 PM
On one of my last trips through Michigan, I saw what I thought was a small dog dead along the road. After seeing another one, and realizing that it would be rare to see 2 husky looking dogs dead within a few miles, I realized that it must have been a coyote.

Those pics from Oklahoma look awesome, someone want to teach me how to hunt them? I assume every state has a season, since they are a fur bearing animal?
ragedracer1977  [Team Member]
3/22/2010 8:07:41 PM
I was out with Rizzo the other day. He was telling me that Game and Fish told him the coyotes are decimating the antelope herds up north. For instance, he said G&F told him that last year Antelope birthed 164 fawns. Coyotes killed 158 of them. 96% of them. SIX survived. (I might be off on the totals, but the 6 survived is correct)

This is why I'm getting into hunting predators. Not because I hunt antelope, but because I support those who do.
metoo  [Team Member]
3/24/2010 1:18:08 AM
Coyote population is booming here also. Three hit on the highway just south of my home town (one right at city limits) just this month. First time I've seen them in that area in all my 43 years.
I speculate part of the reason is decreased number of fur trappers and rabbit hunters. They have more food than ever, including calves and small domestic dogs.
ds762  [Team Member]
3/24/2010 1:36:52 PM
Originally Posted By Righteous:
Originally Posted By RenegadeX:
25 yards off my back porch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chrxIWunI1Y


Renegade.... no boom, pow or tift sounds to be heard.....

shear disappointment from the north on this one....



+1
exwildlandfire  [Team Member]
3/24/2010 1:51:24 PM
All the arformentioned....

And, Because I can....

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9mmprn  [Member]
3/27/2010 11:34:28 AM
Tag for more dog pics! This thread has me wanting to put the smack down on some coyotes...
SSN_Doc  [Member]
4/2/2010 10:43:41 PM
Down here in GA, coyote are not native, but they are now well established. They displace other natural predators by out breeding them and out competeing them for food. They are hard on game species populations and then often turn to pets and livestock as food sources. They are adaptabe, and quite a nuisance species. Controling their population and their impact on other wildlife is a good reason to hunt them.
elkoholic  [Member]
4/3/2010 10:33:32 AM
Originally Posted By ragedracer1977:
I was out with Rizzo the other day. He was telling me that Game and Fish told him the coyotes are decimating the antelope herds up north. For instance, he said G&F told him that last year Antelope birthed 164 fawns. Coyotes killed 158 of them. 96% of them. SIX survived. (I might be off on the totals, but the 6 survived is correct)

This is why I'm getting into hunting predators. Not because I hunt antelope, but because I support those who do.


I am sure the G&F were there for all of these......what a load of %*$#

We cant keep up with poachers, but we can track births and killls?

Coyotes kills antelope for sure, that's why I hunt them.
YoteSlayer69  [Team Member]
4/3/2010 5:36:01 PM
Originally Posted By P08:
I want to hunt and kill them to help out my population of pheasant, quail and turkey. Too many predators is a bad thing.


This...............