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Hog hunting tips for Newbies
12/10/2011 11:10:23 AM
Hey guys I just finished my first AR so now what? I was trying to find some places to go hunting. I don't know where to start looking. Any tips would be great!!!!
12/10/2011 2:00:22 PM
West Louisiana and Texas.
12/10/2011 2:22:01 PM
You shouldn't have too hard of a time to find a place in Louisiana. Yall have a bunch of them too.
12/11/2011 12:42:51 AM
If you do not have access to private land, then look to the EDGES of public hunting lands. While 'deepest, darkest forest' might be a good choice for a wily wise old whitetail...... a pigs a pig's a pig. They are at the least pattern consistent animals. Look at topo maps, and find creeks, low areas/ marsh areas, and water holes, guzzlers for cattle if possible. Then, look to a line to AG land. Where are there farms close by, in what direction? Now, you have 3 areas in your periphery: Heavy cover, water, and food. Next is to learn travel paths and rooting/ wallows. Any fence with tracks coming to it will show hair stuck on barbed wire, and usually some mud if the hogs are wallowing a lot nearby. A wet hog will give itself away easily.
Learn the track, follow it as best you can. Where it comes up to farm land, glass that stuff hard. You might see the hogs, or rooting. Try to learn their pattern, and at the same time, learn the wind in that area. What they can not see they can smell. The basic is: the wind goes across the track, to you. Put yourself in a spot to minimize the wind disadvantage. If you see hogs, or a shit-ton of rooting on farm land, take a pic or 2. Look for that farmer and talk to him. Ask permission to go put some pressure on his hogs for him. Offer to share your catch with him. Chances are, you will get your opportunity. If not, thank him and leave your number, tell him you will come out right quick if he needs some help with the rooting and tearing up of the crops. (You'll get a phone call 70-% of the time)
Now, say you are in. Learn their timing. Or, say you're out. Learn their timing!!!!
Hogs like a few things, and those are: Sleeping. Eating. Wallowing. Making piglets. Hogs sleep off the heat of the day. Their first move in the eve is to water; they usually bed down close to water in THICK shit cover. Drink and wallow to get mud on to stall the ticks, fleas and ants. Next is travel to food. This takes up the entire night; hogs will feed 3-6 plots a night. They RUN across open land, and cruise thru brush slowly. The pattern and travel distance is purely based on food availability and PRESSURE. If pressured, hogs will travel miles between plots. In big country like California where I am; they will travel as much as 8 miles non-stop to a good food plot. Once there, if not pressured, they will feed well into the morning, around say 7 am in open country, and as late as 10 am in tighter country with more woods on flat ground. From the food plot it's back to the water hole for a drink and to bury the ticks in mud. Then, they look for a bedding area.
If they are pressured, they will move fast all night, spending 5-20 minutes in a food plot at most. The good news is, they will hit 5-6 plots, and they will hit them 2-4 times each night.
If you can learn where they are watering, and find some trails to a feed plot, then set up your timing and catch them coming and going. If you can not hunt at night, then really concentrate on getting out there and watching where they are headed int he dark as best you can, and figure where to be in daylight. Near an active wallow in hot weather is almost a slam dunk. If you can find a tunnel into a bedding area, then you have it narrowed down as well. I suggest you DO NOT go into that bedding area, and do NOT send your dog in there. 2 reasons: Boars fuck things up in their house, and you on your stomach in a briar patch is not the way to fight a hog. And, if you stink the place up too much, the hogs will abandon that bed for a couple days. They do NOT like the smell of dogs in their house.
Last; practice your shooting. Hogs in cover are hard to pin down. They do not sit still. They WILL wind you. A low magnification scope with a big field of view is real helpful; put the crosshairs or the dot in the center of the black mass, and shhoooot it quickly. Practice for just this kind of hunting. If you bench shoot through a 12X scope, taking 30 seconds between shots??? Yeah, you will kill you some hogs. You will even get great shots. But most pigs will step out on you right about the time that you think you are going to take the safety off. Too late! Learn to shoot carbine style; fast and dirty. Acquire target, get on it, shoot it. Hell, shoot it a few times if that's what it takes. For an ar15, use GOOD bullets. Not target match ammo; good hunting bullets. Barnes TSX, Federal Fusion, Winchester XPII are good also. Since you don't get to choose the hog you shoot often, start with good ammo. While I love ballistic tips for hogs, I only use them in bigger bullets like 30-06. .223 ballistic tips are really fragile bullets meant for antelope and coyotes; too light and they do not retain enough weight to slam dunk a big pig. To me, a .223 is marginal at best for a big hog, but after 3 days of stalking, setting up post on trails and wallows, I won't tell you to pass on the shot on a big pig. I will just say hit it as best you can, as many times as you can, with the best little bullet you can get.
You are gonna love ticks crawling on your nuts in the brush...... welcome to hog hunting!
Learn the track, follow it as best you can. Where it comes up to farm land, glass that stuff hard. You might see the hogs, or rooting. Try to learn their pattern, and at the same time, learn the wind in that area. What they can not see they can smell. The basic is: the wind goes across the track, to you. Put yourself in a spot to minimize the wind disadvantage. If you see hogs, or a shit-ton of rooting on farm land, take a pic or 2. Look for that farmer and talk to him. Ask permission to go put some pressure on his hogs for him. Offer to share your catch with him. Chances are, you will get your opportunity. If not, thank him and leave your number, tell him you will come out right quick if he needs some help with the rooting and tearing up of the crops. (You'll get a phone call 70-% of the time)
Now, say you are in. Learn their timing. Or, say you're out. Learn their timing!!!!
Hogs like a few things, and those are: Sleeping. Eating. Wallowing. Making piglets. Hogs sleep off the heat of the day. Their first move in the eve is to water; they usually bed down close to water in THICK shit cover. Drink and wallow to get mud on to stall the ticks, fleas and ants. Next is travel to food. This takes up the entire night; hogs will feed 3-6 plots a night. They RUN across open land, and cruise thru brush slowly. The pattern and travel distance is purely based on food availability and PRESSURE. If pressured, hogs will travel miles between plots. In big country like California where I am; they will travel as much as 8 miles non-stop to a good food plot. Once there, if not pressured, they will feed well into the morning, around say 7 am in open country, and as late as 10 am in tighter country with more woods on flat ground. From the food plot it's back to the water hole for a drink and to bury the ticks in mud. Then, they look for a bedding area.
If they are pressured, they will move fast all night, spending 5-20 minutes in a food plot at most. The good news is, they will hit 5-6 plots, and they will hit them 2-4 times each night.
If you can learn where they are watering, and find some trails to a feed plot, then set up your timing and catch them coming and going. If you can not hunt at night, then really concentrate on getting out there and watching where they are headed int he dark as best you can, and figure where to be in daylight. Near an active wallow in hot weather is almost a slam dunk. If you can find a tunnel into a bedding area, then you have it narrowed down as well. I suggest you DO NOT go into that bedding area, and do NOT send your dog in there. 2 reasons: Boars fuck things up in their house, and you on your stomach in a briar patch is not the way to fight a hog. And, if you stink the place up too much, the hogs will abandon that bed for a couple days. They do NOT like the smell of dogs in their house.
Last; practice your shooting. Hogs in cover are hard to pin down. They do not sit still. They WILL wind you. A low magnification scope with a big field of view is real helpful; put the crosshairs or the dot in the center of the black mass, and shhoooot it quickly. Practice for just this kind of hunting. If you bench shoot through a 12X scope, taking 30 seconds between shots??? Yeah, you will kill you some hogs. You will even get great shots. But most pigs will step out on you right about the time that you think you are going to take the safety off. Too late! Learn to shoot carbine style; fast and dirty. Acquire target, get on it, shoot it. Hell, shoot it a few times if that's what it takes. For an ar15, use GOOD bullets. Not target match ammo; good hunting bullets. Barnes TSX, Federal Fusion, Winchester XPII are good also. Since you don't get to choose the hog you shoot often, start with good ammo. While I love ballistic tips for hogs, I only use them in bigger bullets like 30-06. .223 ballistic tips are really fragile bullets meant for antelope and coyotes; too light and they do not retain enough weight to slam dunk a big pig. To me, a .223 is marginal at best for a big hog, but after 3 days of stalking, setting up post on trails and wallows, I won't tell you to pass on the shot on a big pig. I will just say hit it as best you can, as many times as you can, with the best little bullet you can get.
You are gonna love ticks crawling on your nuts in the brush...... welcome to hog hunting!
12/11/2011 9:48:17 AM
^ Awesome post is awesome.
12/12/2011 6:33:28 AM
Wow thanks man great post. One guy on here mentioned west Lousiana so I think ill start looking around the Shreveport area for public hunting. I think im too far east b/c I haven't seen any wild hogs in my area and I've been hunting all my life just not for pigs. I live an hour and a half from Shreveport so that should be a good place to start. I built a 7.62X39 ar do you think that will do the trick? Iv'e heard that pigs have tough skin any ammo recomendations would be great.
12/12/2011 7:19:22 AM
In the pic below, Mark used my 762x39 with Wolf Military Classic Hollow Ponint, not the black box. Just about any bullet will penetrate, you just have to hit them in front of chest.
12/12/2011 7:57:07 AM
I'm guessing Rojodiablo's pig count is approaching 1,000.
Awesome post (even if it could have used a couple more paragraph breaks... sorry, I can't help it.)
Awesome post, though.
Awesome post (even if it could have used a couple more paragraph breaks... sorry, I can't help it.)
Awesome post, though.
12/12/2011 9:23:09 AM
Originally Posted By Robocop1911:
Wow thanks man great post. One guy on here mentioned west Lousiana so I think ill start looking around the Shreveport area for public hunting. I think im too far east b/c I haven't seen any wild hogs in my area and I've been hunting all my life just not for pigs. I live an hour and a half from Shreveport so that should be a good place to start. I built a 7.62X39 ar do you think that will do the trick? Iv'e heard that pigs have tough skin any ammo recomendations would be great.
Wow thanks man great post. One guy on here mentioned west Lousiana so I think ill start looking around the Shreveport area for public hunting. I think im too far east b/c I haven't seen any wild hogs in my area and I've been hunting all my life just not for pigs. I live an hour and a half from Shreveport so that should be a good place to start. I built a 7.62X39 ar do you think that will do the trick? Iv'e heard that pigs have tough skin any ammo recomendations would be great.
Louisiana has a good population of hogs. The 7.62 knocks them over very well. You can take a few brass and get some good bullets for them and have them loaded for you by anyone you know who reloads and has the 7.62 die. Same bullet as a 7mm and 30-06. 150gr is a good weight, it does not rob too much speed and is so common. Hits real hard. I read the comment on the Wolf HP in 7.62- it's a decent bullet, and works well. (Funny, you'd expect the Russians would make a bullet for their own gun that is pretty good!!!) Shreveport has some, and west LA has a lot of pigs. Call the local wardens, and look up some hog hunting online for LA. The wardens can put you in contact with farmers sometimes, and they definitely can give you direction on public access areas. Farm/ AG bureau can be of help, and google hunting hogs in La. then see what comes up near you. Internet is soo helpful for this!!
I like hogs better than any other big game here in Ca. Year round season, and it's an easy sell to a marginal minded non hunter to say "Here, have some porkchops" and THEN later tell them the hole in the ribs they are chewing on is about .30 caliber.......
Our deer are NOT like midwest whitetails. Coastal blacktails are small, maybe 100-150lb is a real nice one. Muleys get big, but it's a 2-6yr wait for the tag lottery. Pigs are over the counter, and no special zones.I kill a lot of hogs when I can!!!
But I enjoy watching my sons hunt them even more. There is nothing better, I love that part so much.12/12/2011 9:40:05 AM
Sent you an IM. We are overrun with hogs here.
12/12/2011 10:55:05 AM
I hunt some family property in South / Central Louisiana, in the NW part of Evangeline Parish.
Just a couple days ago while deer hunting I had about 20 hogs come by my stand. About 40 yards away in heavy underbrush. I could occasionally see them, but they were moving fairly quickly and never slowed long enough to take a shot. Fairly certain there was a boar, one or two sows, and at least a dozen piglets, maybe 20-30 pounds each. Noisy fuckers.
And I was hunting deer anyway, this was early in the hunt, didn't want to ruin a chance at a deer. Gonna go back today, will try to get one or two if I have the chance.
Come Jan 15, when deer season closes, those suckers are gonna be in trouble.
LC
Just a couple days ago while deer hunting I had about 20 hogs come by my stand. About 40 yards away in heavy underbrush. I could occasionally see them, but they were moving fairly quickly and never slowed long enough to take a shot. Fairly certain there was a boar, one or two sows, and at least a dozen piglets, maybe 20-30 pounds each. Noisy fuckers.
And I was hunting deer anyway, this was early in the hunt, didn't want to ruin a chance at a deer. Gonna go back today, will try to get one or two if I have the chance.
Come Jan 15, when deer season closes, those suckers are gonna be in trouble.
LC
12/12/2011 12:01:11 PM
Originally Posted By Rojodiablo:
Louisiana has a good population of hogs. The 7.62 knocks them over very well. You can take a few brass and get some good bullets for them and have them loaded for you by anyone you know who reloads and has the 7.62 die. Same bullet as a 7mm and 30-06. 150gr is a good weight, it does not rob too much speed and is so common. Hits real hard. I read the comment on the Wolf HP in 7.62- it's a decent bullet, and works well. (Funny, you'd expect the Russians would make a bullet for their own gun that is pretty good!!!) Shreveport has some, and west LA has a lot of pigs. Call the local wardens, and look up some hog hunting online for LA. The wardens can put you in contact with farmers sometimes, and they definitely can give you direction on public access areas. Farm/ AG bureau can be of help, and google hunting hogs in La. then see what comes up near you. Internet is soo helpful for this!!
I like hogs better than any other big game here in Ca. Year round season, and it's an easy sell to a marginal minded non hunter to say "Here, have some porkchops" and THEN later tell them the hole in the ribs they are chewing on is about .30 caliber....... Our deer are NOT like midwest whitetails. Coastal blacktails are small, maybe 100-150lb is a real nice one. Muleys get big, but it's a 2-6yr wait for the tag lottery. Pigs are over the counter, and no special zones.I kill a lot of hogs when I can!!! But I enjoy watching my sons hunt them even more. There is nothing better, I love that part so much.
Originally Posted By Robocop1911:
Wow thanks man great post. One guy on here mentioned west Lousiana so I think ill start looking around the Shreveport area for public hunting. I think im too far east b/c I haven't seen any wild hogs in my area and I've been hunting all my life just not for pigs. I live an hour and a half from Shreveport so that should be a good place to start. I built a 7.62X39 ar do you think that will do the trick? Iv'e heard that pigs have tough skin any ammo recomendations would be great.
Wow thanks man great post. One guy on here mentioned west Lousiana so I think ill start looking around the Shreveport area for public hunting. I think im too far east b/c I haven't seen any wild hogs in my area and I've been hunting all my life just not for pigs. I live an hour and a half from Shreveport so that should be a good place to start. I built a 7.62X39 ar do you think that will do the trick? Iv'e heard that pigs have tough skin any ammo recomendations would be great.
Louisiana has a good population of hogs. The 7.62 knocks them over very well. You can take a few brass and get some good bullets for them and have them loaded for you by anyone you know who reloads and has the 7.62 die. Same bullet as a 7mm and 30-06. 150gr is a good weight, it does not rob too much speed and is so common. Hits real hard. I read the comment on the Wolf HP in 7.62- it's a decent bullet, and works well. (Funny, you'd expect the Russians would make a bullet for their own gun that is pretty good!!!) Shreveport has some, and west LA has a lot of pigs. Call the local wardens, and look up some hog hunting online for LA. The wardens can put you in contact with farmers sometimes, and they definitely can give you direction on public access areas. Farm/ AG bureau can be of help, and google hunting hogs in La. then see what comes up near you. Internet is soo helpful for this!!
I like hogs better than any other big game here in Ca. Year round season, and it's an easy sell to a marginal minded non hunter to say "Here, have some porkchops" and THEN later tell them the hole in the ribs they are chewing on is about .30 caliber.......
Our deer are NOT like midwest whitetails. Coastal blacktails are small, maybe 100-150lb is a real nice one. Muleys get big, but it's a 2-6yr wait for the tag lottery. Pigs are over the counter, and no special zones.I kill a lot of hogs when I can!!! But I enjoy watching my sons hunt them even more. There is nothing better, I love that part so much.Where at in CA you have hogs? I would love to go and shoot some if the CA Gov't wont arrest me for bringing guns over
12/12/2011 12:02:18 PM
Originally Posted By JeredMD:
Where at in CA you have hogs? I would love to go and shoot some if the CA Gov't wont arrest me for bringing guns over
Originally Posted By Rojodiablo:
Louisiana has a good population of hogs. The 7.62 knocks them over very well. You can take a few brass and get some good bullets for them and have them loaded for you by anyone you know who reloads and has the 7.62 die. Same bullet as a 7mm and 30-06. 150gr is a good weight, it does not rob too much speed and is so common. Hits real hard. I read the comment on the Wolf HP in 7.62- it's a decent bullet, and works well. (Funny, you'd expect the Russians would make a bullet for their own gun that is pretty good!!!) Shreveport has some, and west LA has a lot of pigs. Call the local wardens, and look up some hog hunting online for LA. The wardens can put you in contact with farmers sometimes, and they definitely can give you direction on public access areas. Farm/ AG bureau can be of help, and google hunting hogs in La. then see what comes up near you. Internet is soo helpful for this!!
I like hogs better than any other big game here in Ca. Year round season, and it's an easy sell to a marginal minded non hunter to say "Here, have some porkchops" and THEN later tell them the hole in the ribs they are chewing on is about .30 caliber....... Our deer are NOT like midwest whitetails. Coastal blacktails are small, maybe 100-150lb is a real nice one. Muleys get big, but it's a 2-6yr wait for the tag lottery. Pigs are over the counter, and no special zones.I kill a lot of hogs when I can!!! But I enjoy watching my sons hunt them even more. There is nothing better, I love that part so much.
Originally Posted By Robocop1911:
Wow thanks man great post. One guy on here mentioned west Lousiana so I think ill start looking around the Shreveport area for public hunting. I think im too far east b/c I haven't seen any wild hogs in my area and I've been hunting all my life just not for pigs. I live an hour and a half from Shreveport so that should be a good place to start. I built a 7.62X39 ar do you think that will do the trick? Iv'e heard that pigs have tough skin any ammo recomendations would be great.
Wow thanks man great post. One guy on here mentioned west Lousiana so I think ill start looking around the Shreveport area for public hunting. I think im too far east b/c I haven't seen any wild hogs in my area and I've been hunting all my life just not for pigs. I live an hour and a half from Shreveport so that should be a good place to start. I built a 7.62X39 ar do you think that will do the trick? Iv'e heard that pigs have tough skin any ammo recomendations would be great.
Louisiana has a good population of hogs. The 7.62 knocks them over very well. You can take a few brass and get some good bullets for them and have them loaded for you by anyone you know who reloads and has the 7.62 die. Same bullet as a 7mm and 30-06. 150gr is a good weight, it does not rob too much speed and is so common. Hits real hard. I read the comment on the Wolf HP in 7.62- it's a decent bullet, and works well. (Funny, you'd expect the Russians would make a bullet for their own gun that is pretty good!!!) Shreveport has some, and west LA has a lot of pigs. Call the local wardens, and look up some hog hunting online for LA. The wardens can put you in contact with farmers sometimes, and they definitely can give you direction on public access areas. Farm/ AG bureau can be of help, and google hunting hogs in La. then see what comes up near you. Internet is soo helpful for this!!
I like hogs better than any other big game here in Ca. Year round season, and it's an easy sell to a marginal minded non hunter to say "Here, have some porkchops" and THEN later tell them the hole in the ribs they are chewing on is about .30 caliber.......
Our deer are NOT like midwest whitetails. Coastal blacktails are small, maybe 100-150lb is a real nice one. Muleys get big, but it's a 2-6yr wait for the tag lottery. Pigs are over the counter, and no special zones.I kill a lot of hogs when I can!!! But I enjoy watching my sons hunt them even more. There is nothing better, I love that part so much.Where at in CA you have hogs? I would love to go and shoot some if the CA Gov't wont arrest me for bringing guns over
Oops just noticed the Louisiana part
12/12/2011 9:11:37 PM
Where at in CA you have hogs? I would love to go and shoot some if the CA Gov't wont arrest me for bringing guns over
Believe it or not, like 54 out of 57 counties in Ca have wild hogs in them!!!
The groups in SD have wised up, and are sticking hard to private land and super heavy cover. Hunters here had a field day with them for a year or so. Up in north L.A. Tejon has hogs on it, and they are a fun hunt. Very challenging; open plains, hillside oaks, steep canyons and grain plots. You cover a lot of ground hunting them. Central Ca has them in many places, some on public land, most on private land. They do cross over, but you need to really invest a lot of time looking for them. It's a 5-8hr drive, so I don't get up there often enough. NorCal has them, very good in some places. Near the coast it's pretty decent, deep canyon hunting. Lots and lots of glassing.
FWIW, i was driving home from Tx on I 10 this Sept. and I saw a dead hog on the road, in Az. It was no Javelina; I saw 3 of those also. This was a straight up 250lb hog that got in a fight with a car on the road.Location was east of Glendale, where the 10 sweeps closer to the Mexican border. Alfalfa and citrus farms. If you could find them there, it would be a blast; miles of open range. I'd be tapping them way out like it was a coyote hunt!!! There are some hogs now on the Colorado river, and around the marsh areas of Havasu. Saw a sounder in daylight in the tules while bass fishing. Lotta good 12lb test and a spinnerbait was going to do me for that!!!
From now on, when I fish those lakes, I am bringing some heat with me. Keep your eyes and ears peeled, the pigs will not be eliminated there any time soon.
With open desert, they travel best in winter rainstorms. When there is lots of water, they are prompted to search out new beds and feed plots. Especially young boars, kicked out of a sounder at about 1 yr old. Too young to run a harem, but big enough to draw away a young sow or 2 and start his own team. He will hook up some girls and herd them to new areas away from the older boars who run the sounders where he came from. They are now in Mx pretty heavily in places, and since there is so little allowed big caliber rifles, hogs WILL expand their turf in Mx very fast. They already are. It's all about glassing, under a full moon.
12/12/2011 9:13:22 PM
Originally Posted By Lootie23:
Sent you an IM. We are overrun with hogs here.
Sent you an IM. We are overrun with hogs here.
I am in Houston every month. Hit me up, I will come over and give it a go.
Let me know which season, what kind of crops, and what rifles you would want on scene or what restrictions there are.12/13/2011 7:05:59 AM
Any other tips in Lousiana! would be nice
12/13/2011 7:07:45 AM
Does anybody know what kind of optics would be best for hog hunting?
12/13/2011 7:37:42 AM
Originally Posted By Robocop1911:
Does anybody know what kind of optics would be best for hog hunting?
Does anybody know what kind of optics would be best for hog hunting?
Optics are based upon conditions of the shooting.
running, up close, in cover .. unmagnified red-dot.
Stationary, at a distance, in the open, magnified optic.
At night ...
FWIW, good information in the posts already. I've never killed a hog on a wallow. I've hunted in/on/around wallows, but never actually stalked up on a hog in the throws of wallowing.
Learn what food is in season in your area. Hogs need to eat, alot, this time of year especially. In winter they move more during the day than at night when it is frosty out.
Hogs tend to trot alot. When you have 30-40 hungry hogs, each fully aware of the location of food, and hungry, and competitive...they don't waste alot of time getting to feed. However, once they get there, they focus on eating, so you want to be set up near the feeding areas. If you are planning to stalk, slow down when approaching areas where they have been feeding. They are not especially noisy when feeding, mostly.
TRG
12/13/2011 9:05:14 AM
Get a good dog, a sharp knife and a buddy to go with.
Oh, sorry OP, leave that rifle at home.
Bev
Oh, sorry OP, leave that rifle at home.
Bev
12/13/2011 9:32:41 AM
Originally Posted By thebev8604:
Get a good dog, a sharp knife and a buddy to go with.
Oh, sorry OP, leave that rifle at home.
Bev
Get a good dog, a sharp knife and a buddy to go with.
Oh, sorry OP, leave that rifle at home.
Bev
I don't need to feed my rifles year-round.
TRG
12/13/2011 11:03:41 AM
Hey all, thought I'd post this for north Texas hunters trying out the type two lands.
Go to walmart/academy get the type one and type two licenses . If you are young you need your hunters safety too. You get a book mailed to you with maps. You will want to hunt the 901n maps. I recommend the southern right parking area between the two lakes. You will want to go in before dawn. I go in at 05:30 to a favorite spot. These spots can be found by examining the mapquest satelite imagery of your chosen hunting area. Find a farm field with a feeder, and a stream or lake. Park you frozen ass on the grassland property between the water and food, on a bit of high ground near a hog run. Try to be as quiet as possible. and wait for dawn. You are allowed to fire 1/2 hour before sunrise. Have a mounted flash light. Know when you can shoot. (you may have to "defend yourself" from aggressive wild hogs before then. It is sad but it happens. )
You will want to bring rope to drag a kill, or one of the game dollies. 2 compass, water, fire, a rough map, all your licenses , hunters orange, a IFAK ( gunshot wound quick clot and decent first aid kit), a good knife, game scissors, and water proof rain boots.
Take a day and scout your hunt. I have spooked up hogs after 10 am on rainy days or bad weather. After 10 Am go for a walk. Explore the area. You will only see moving hogs at dawn. They bed in the thickets around the lakes.
There are places to drop off a hunting registration card. Do so in the night as you drive to your inlet parking area.
You'll hear them before you see them. Let them get close. First shot is for the ear. After that center mass on as many as you can. If you gut shoot one. Just take the hams hocks and cheek meat. Pack it out in trash bags on your cart or empty pack.
Good luck. Be safe. Don't leave any valuables in your vehicle in sight.
Go to walmart/academy get the type one and type two licenses . If you are young you need your hunters safety too. You get a book mailed to you with maps. You will want to hunt the 901n maps. I recommend the southern right parking area between the two lakes. You will want to go in before dawn. I go in at 05:30 to a favorite spot. These spots can be found by examining the mapquest satelite imagery of your chosen hunting area. Find a farm field with a feeder, and a stream or lake. Park you frozen ass on the grassland property between the water and food, on a bit of high ground near a hog run. Try to be as quiet as possible. and wait for dawn. You are allowed to fire 1/2 hour before sunrise. Have a mounted flash light. Know when you can shoot. (you may have to "defend yourself" from aggressive wild hogs before then. It is sad but it happens. )
You will want to bring rope to drag a kill, or one of the game dollies. 2 compass, water, fire, a rough map, all your licenses , hunters orange, a IFAK ( gunshot wound quick clot and decent first aid kit), a good knife, game scissors, and water proof rain boots.
Take a day and scout your hunt. I have spooked up hogs after 10 am on rainy days or bad weather. After 10 Am go for a walk. Explore the area. You will only see moving hogs at dawn. They bed in the thickets around the lakes.
There are places to drop off a hunting registration card. Do so in the night as you drive to your inlet parking area.
You'll hear them before you see them. Let them get close. First shot is for the ear. After that center mass on as many as you can. If you gut shoot one. Just take the hams hocks and cheek meat. Pack it out in trash bags on your cart or empty pack.
Good luck. Be safe. Don't leave any valuables in your vehicle in sight.
12/13/2011 11:14:14 AM
Originally Posted By TheRedGoat:
Optics are based upon conditions of the shooting.
running, up close, in cover .. unmagnified red-dot.
Stationary, at a distance, in the open, magnified optic.
At night ...
FWIW, good information in the posts already. I've never killed a hog on a wallow. I've hunted in/on/around wallows, but never actually stalked up on a hog in the throws of wallowing.
Learn what food is in season in your area. Hogs need to eat, alot, this time of year especially. In winter they move more during the day than at night when it is frosty out.
Hogs tend to trot alot. When you have 30-40 hungry hogs, each fully aware of the location of food, and hungry, and competitive...they don't waste alot of time getting to feed. However, once they get there, they focus on eating, so you want to be set up near the feeding areas. If you are planning to stalk, slow down when approaching areas where they have been feeding. They are not especially noisy when feeding, mostly.
TRG
Originally Posted By Robocop1911:
Does anybody know what kind of optics would be best for hog hunting?
Does anybody know what kind of optics would be best for hog hunting?
Optics are based upon conditions of the shooting.
running, up close, in cover .. unmagnified red-dot.
Stationary, at a distance, in the open, magnified optic.
At night ...
FWIW, good information in the posts already. I've never killed a hog on a wallow. I've hunted in/on/around wallows, but never actually stalked up on a hog in the throws of wallowing.
Learn what food is in season in your area. Hogs need to eat, alot, this time of year especially. In winter they move more during the day than at night when it is frosty out.
Hogs tend to trot alot. When you have 30-40 hungry hogs, each fully aware of the location of food, and hungry, and competitive...they don't waste alot of time getting to feed. However, once they get there, they focus on eating, so you want to be set up near the feeding areas. If you are planning to stalk, slow down when approaching areas where they have been feeding. They are not especially noisy when feeding, mostly.
TRG
I was looking at the Burris Timberline 2-7X26 with the P.E.P.R. 1 piece mount. I figured that it should do what I need what do you guys think?
12/13/2011 6:04:24 PM
I was looking at the Burris Timberline 2-7X26 with the P.E.P.R. 1 piece mount. I figured that it should do what I need what do you guys think?
Those look pretty nice. For night hunting, are you going to go full on NV?? if so, don't skimp. Get a Gen 2 plus, or get a Gen3. There is a Gen3 with 4x magnification that is really nice, and 'only' $1600.
In Ca, we can't night hunt except for depradation, and no NV is allowed. We shoot them out to 200yds at night with a standard 3x9x40 scope if we get the chance. Most shots at night are right in the grape orchards or tree groves. Most shots are 30ys to 60 yds. Pretty similar to say Tx. hunting. Daytime shooting is 50-300yds. Same good 3x9 scope works. Note: This kind of shooting with no spotlights is under full moon sessions. We have to really time the hunts we stage to basically put pressure on the pigs, not really eradicate them.
I enjoy the day hunting much more, glassing them, tracking and setting up good shooting stages. It is very challenging, and it is different than depredation shooting.
You do not need as much magnification when shooting under a spotlight or lit feeder. You'll find a 2-7 would be perfect.
12/14/2011 7:11:13 AM
Originally Posted By Rojodiablo:
I was looking at the Burris Timberline 2-7X26 with the P.E.P.R. 1 piece mount. I figured that it should do what I need what do you guys think?
Those look pretty nice. For night hunting, are you going to go full on NV?? if so, don't skimp. Get a Gen 2 plus, or get a Gen3. There is a Gen3 with 4x magnification that is really nice, and 'only' $1600. In Ca, we can't night hunt except for depradation, and no NV is allowed. We shoot them out to 200yds at night with a standard 3x9x40 scope if we get the chance. Most shots at night are right in the grape orchards or tree groves. Most shots are 30ys to 60 yds. Pretty similar to say Tx. hunting. Daytime shooting is 50-300yds. Same good 3x9 scope works. Note: This kind of shooting with no spotlights is under full moon sessions. We have to really time the hunts we stage to basically put pressure on the pigs, not really eradicate them.
I enjoy the day hunting much more, glassing them, tracking and setting up good shooting stages. It is very challenging, and it is different than depredation shooting.
You do not need as much magnification when shooting under a spotlight or lit feeder. You'll find a 2-7 would be perfect.
I was looking at the Burris Timberline 2-7X26 with the P.E.P.R. 1 piece mount. I figured that it should do what I need what do you guys think?
Those look pretty nice. For night hunting, are you going to go full on NV?? if so, don't skimp. Get a Gen 2 plus, or get a Gen3. There is a Gen3 with 4x magnification that is really nice, and 'only' $1600.
In Ca, we can't night hunt except for depradation, and no NV is allowed. We shoot them out to 200yds at night with a standard 3x9x40 scope if we get the chance. Most shots at night are right in the grape orchards or tree groves. Most shots are 30ys to 60 yds. Pretty similar to say Tx. hunting. Daytime shooting is 50-300yds. Same good 3x9 scope works. Note: This kind of shooting with no spotlights is under full moon sessions. We have to really time the hunts we stage to basically put pressure on the pigs, not really eradicate them.
I enjoy the day hunting much more, glassing them, tracking and setting up good shooting stages. It is very challenging, and it is different than depredation shooting.
You do not need as much magnification when shooting under a spotlight or lit feeder. You'll find a 2-7 would be perfect.
The burris is only 169 bucks from opticsbestbuy.com seems like a good deal for an all around good scope. I will probably order it today. How does night vision work with a standard rifle scope?
12/14/2011 10:07:44 AM
Hey guys good news just I got a job offer to relocate to Dallas in a couple of weeks. Im seriously considering it. Does anybody hunt around Dallas area or know people that do and if so how successful is it? I wouldn't mind moving to Texas to make more money and help eradicate the population of pigs.
12/14/2011 10:46:36 AM
Does anybody know what kind of optics would be best for hog hunting?
Go with a 1-4, 1-6 type optic if your hunting in the daylight. At night get a gen3 740 or 760. If you don't like a dedicated nv scope get a clip on like a 22 or 24. It's best to helmet mount a pvs for navigating then going to your weapon mounted optic for shooting. I stalk all night In river bottoms like this, and it's very effective. When you get into big pastures and corn, rice crops I prefer to scan with a flir307 to begin a stalk. It will give you range out to a mile on cool nights for detecting heat signatures.
12/14/2011 12:57:02 PM
Originally Posted By Robocop1911:
Hey guys good news just I got a job offer to relocate to Dallas in a couple of weeks. Im seriously considering it. Does anybody hunt around Dallas area or know people that do and if so how successful is it? I wouldn't mind moving to Texas to make more money and help eradicate the population of pigs.
Hey guys good news just I got a job offer to relocate to Dallas in a couple of weeks. Im seriously considering it. Does anybody hunt around Dallas area or know people that do and if so how successful is it? I wouldn't mind moving to Texas to make more money and help eradicate the population of pigs.
95% of the hogs we kill are within an hour or two from Dallas.
www.wildhoghunters.com
12/14/2011 1:35:58 PM
Originally Posted By Robocop1911:
Hey guys good news just I got a job offer to relocate to Dallas in a couple of weeks. Im seriously considering it. Does anybody hunt around Dallas area or know people that do and if so how successful is it? I wouldn't mind moving to Texas to make more money and help eradicate the population of pigs.
95% of the hogs we kill are within an hour or two from Dallas.
www.wildhoghunters.com
Hey guys good news just I got a job offer to relocate to Dallas in a couple of weeks. Im seriously considering it. Does anybody hunt around Dallas area or know people that do and if so how successful is it? I wouldn't mind moving to Texas to make more money and help eradicate the population of pigs.
95% of the hogs we kill are within an hour or two from Dallas.
www.wildhoghunters.com
Ponyboy, you ever hunt with karma? They've been whacking them pretty good lately. He's out in the rock wall area.
12/14/2011 3:11:31 PM
Originally Posted By km2006dmax:
Go with a 1-4, 1-6 type optic if your hunting in the daylight. At night get a gen3 740 or 760. If you don't like a dedicated nv scope get a clip on like a 22 or 24. It's best to helmet mount a pvs for navigating then going to your weapon mounted optic for shooting. I stalk all night In river bottoms like this, and it's very effective. When you get into big pastures and corn, rice crops I prefer to scan with a flir307 to begin a stalk. It will give you range out to a mile on cool nights for detecting heat signatures.
Does anybody know what kind of optics would be best for hog hunting?
Go with a 1-4, 1-6 type optic if your hunting in the daylight. At night get a gen3 740 or 760. If you don't like a dedicated nv scope get a clip on like a 22 or 24. It's best to helmet mount a pvs for navigating then going to your weapon mounted optic for shooting. I stalk all night In river bottoms like this, and it's very effective. When you get into big pastures and corn, rice crops I prefer to scan with a flir307 to begin a stalk. It will give you range out to a mile on cool nights for detecting heat signatures.
I did some research on the items you mentioned WOW!!! Would there by chance be a less expensive way to aquire some good night vision? I think I like the idea of being able to shoot my rifle in daytime as well as night time. Which one of these would you think would be the best option to start out with?
12/14/2011 5:59:08 PM
I did some research on the items you mentioned WOW!!! Would there by chance be a less expensive way to aquire some good night vision? I think I like the idea of being able to shoot my rifle in daytime as well as night time. Which one of these would you think would be the best option to start out with?
Robo, with a good day scope you can really see pretty descent under full moon conditions. Of course its much easier seeing like this in open areas where you have good moonlight. Unfortunately, most gen III NV is going to be pretty expensive. I've seen some really nice pvs-14's in the 1800 range with some descent tubes. A gen II shp m845 is a really nice unit that has a good image that will need a IR illuminator in very dark conditions. Although I've never used one I've read some pretty good reviews on the pulsar digi sight. However, I've also read of some issues pertaining to gain problems where the image went bad. They will work fairly well in brighter conditions with good moonlight, and fall off in darker conditions. In which a IR illuminator will have to be used.
To start out with I would just get a good low magnification day scope. 1-4, 1-6, 2-7. Or even a EO tech or AP. Later on you can get a NOD when funds are available. The best single NV device one can have imo is a pvs-14. You can use it behind a EO tech or AP, and also use it with a IR laser while helmet mounted. It is by far the most versatile device one can have. You can also add a 3x lens to it to give yourself a 3x weapon sight.
12/14/2011 8:18:13 PM
I did some research on the items you mentioned WOW!!! Would there by chance be a less expensive way to aquire some good night vision? I think I like the idea of being able to shoot my rifle in daytime as well as night time. Which one of these would you think would be the best option to start out with?
A fairly large optic lens will draw in the light better from a regular scope. I use a Weaver 3x9x38 for my standard hog hunting rifle; a 30-06. On a full moon night, I have taken hogs out to 250yds at night with this rifle. When it's down to killing pigs, and not hunting them, I will use a 50mm objective lens. It gathers a shot-load of light. Remember, any good 50mm lens scope will run you like $400-600 (Nikon, Weaver, etc.) Then a G2 NV optic can be had for about 700-950. NV is dedicated to night hunting, or should I say shooting. You will kill the light tube if you screw up and open it up in daylight. The low end G2, or even a decent G1 will still be the equal of a 50mm lens in open ground, and in brush they are far better than the regular optics.
12/15/2011 10:37:46 PM
Originally Posted By Robocop1911:
Hey guys good news just I got a job offer to relocate to Dallas in a couple of weeks. Im seriously considering it. Does anybody hunt around Dallas area or know people that do and if so how successful is it? I wouldn't mind moving to Texas to make more money and help eradicate the population of pigs.
Hey guys good news just I got a job offer to relocate to Dallas in a couple of weeks. Im seriously considering it. Does anybody hunt around Dallas area or know people that do and if so how successful is it? I wouldn't mind moving to Texas to make more money and help eradicate the population of pigs.
Robo if you move to the Dallas area I would go talk to the guys at Ident Marking. They are very knowledgeable about hog hunting and do a lot of. They also sell suppressors and night vision. I bought my PVS-14 from them and haven't found a better price anywhere. They were able to help with the best setup for me because they use thier products. Hope this helps and good luck
12/16/2011 6:27:28 AM
Quote Robo if you move to the Dallas area I would go talk to the guys at Ident Marking. They are very knowledgeable about hog hunting and do a lot of. They also sell suppressors and night vision. I bought my PVS-14 from them and haven't found a better price anywhere. They were able to help with the best setup for me because they use thier products. Hope this helps and good luck End Quote
Thanks man if you don't mind me asking how much was your pvs-14? The only reason I ask is because I might have enough money after my move to purchase one. Do they sell scopes and bases? If so ill just wait on buying any optics and see what they think my best set up would be. Ill call them today.
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Thanks man if you don't mind me asking how much was your pvs-14? The only reason I ask is because I might have enough money after my move to purchase one. Do they sell scopes and bases? If so ill just wait on buying any optics and see what they think my best set up would be. Ill call them today.
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12/16/2011 9:41:48 AM
Originally Posted By Robocop1911:
Quote Robo if you move to the Dallas area I would go talk to the guys at Ident Marking. They are very knowledgeable about hog hunting and do a lot of. They also sell suppressors and night vision. I bought my PVS-14 from them and haven't found a better price anywhere. They were able to help with the best setup for me because they use thier products. Hope this helps and good luck End Quote
Thanks man if you don't mind me asking how much was your pvs-14? The only reason I ask is because I might have enough money after my move to purchase one. Do they sell scopes and bases? If so ill just wait on buying any optics and see what they think my best set up would be. Ill call them today.
Quote Robo if you move to the Dallas area I would go talk to the guys at Ident Marking. They are very knowledgeable about hog hunting and do a lot of. They also sell suppressors and night vision. I bought my PVS-14 from them and haven't found a better price anywhere. They were able to help with the best setup for me because they use thier products. Hope this helps and good luck End Quote
Thanks man if you don't mind me asking how much was your pvs-14? The only reason I ask is because I might have enough money after my move to purchase one. Do they sell scopes and bases? If so ill just wait on buying any optics and see what they think my best set up would be. Ill call them today.
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I paid $3000 for mine.
It was a police trade in.
It came with a head mount and a QD rifle mount.
12/16/2011 10:12:28 AM
For those that want to see what it looks like to use a PVS14, here's a short video clip we shot using one out on a hunt.
12/16/2011 10:58:57 AM
Originally Posted By Ponyboy:
For those that want to see what it looks like to use a PVS14, here's a short video clip we shot using one out on a hunt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i_kEBFGpdw
For those that want to see what it looks like to use a PVS14, here's a short video clip we shot using one out on a hunt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i_kEBFGpdwPony Thats pretty cool i think ive seen some of your videos on youtube. Where did you get your pvs14? I think id like to look through some stuff when I come to Dallas. HDfireman mentioned a company called Ident Marking that is close to Dallas. He said that they were the cheapest he has seen, and they would help me descide what will be best for my application. What do you think?
12/16/2011 11:25:18 AM
Originally Posted By Robocop1911:
Pony Thats pretty cool i think ive seen some of your videos on youtube. Where did you get your pvs14? I think id like to look through some stuff when I come to Dallas. HDfireman mentioned a company called Ident Marking that is close to Dallas. He said that they were the cheapest he has seen, and they would help me descide what will be best for my application. What do you think?
Originally Posted By Ponyboy:
For those that want to see what it looks like to use a PVS14, here's a short video clip we shot using one out on a hunt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i_kEBFGpdw
For those that want to see what it looks like to use a PVS14, here's a short video clip we shot using one out on a hunt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i_kEBFGpdwPony Thats pretty cool i think ive seen some of your videos on youtube. Where did you get your pvs14? I think id like to look through some stuff when I come to Dallas. HDfireman mentioned a company called Ident Marking that is close to Dallas. He said that they were the cheapest he has seen, and they would help me descide what will be best for my application. What do you think?
I've heard nothing but good stuff about Ident Marking and will probably be getting in touch with them soon as we're discussing some new NV equipment.
12/16/2011 12:34:15 PM
Originally Posted By Ponyboy:
I've heard nothing but good stuff about Ident Marking and will probably be getting in touch with them soon as we're discussing some new NV equipment.
Originally Posted By Robocop1911:
Pony Thats pretty cool i think ive seen some of your videos on youtube. Where did you get your pvs14? I think id like to look through some stuff when I come to Dallas. HDfireman mentioned a company called Ident Marking that is close to Dallas. He said that they were the cheapest he has seen, and they would help me descide what will be best for my application. What do you think?
Originally Posted By Ponyboy:
For those that want to see what it looks like to use a PVS14, here's a short video clip we shot using one out on a hunt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i_kEBFGpdw
For those that want to see what it looks like to use a PVS14, here's a short video clip we shot using one out on a hunt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i_kEBFGpdwPony Thats pretty cool i think ive seen some of your videos on youtube. Where did you get your pvs14? I think id like to look through some stuff when I come to Dallas. HDfireman mentioned a company called Ident Marking that is close to Dallas. He said that they were the cheapest he has seen, and they would help me descide what will be best for my application. What do you think?
I've heard nothing but good stuff about Ident Marking and will probably be getting in touch with them soon as we're discussing some new NV equipment.
They are really good to work with and prices are lower than anyone I've found. Because they use NV to pig hunt, and do a lot of it they can really help with best set up for you.
12/16/2011 12:35:38 PM
Originally Posted By itsARanchrifle:
Originally Posted By Robocop1911:
Quote Robo if you move to the Dallas area I would go talk to the guys at Ident Marking. They are very knowledgeable about hog hunting and do a lot of. They also sell suppressors and night vision. I bought my PVS-14 from them and haven't found a better price anywhere. They were able to help with the best setup for me because they use thier products. Hope this helps and good luck End Quote
Thanks man if you don't mind me asking how much was your pvs-14? The only reason I ask is because I might have enough money after my move to purchase one. Do they sell scopes and bases? If so ill just wait on buying any optics and see what they think my best set up would be. Ill call them today.
Quote Robo if you move to the Dallas area I would go talk to the guys at Ident Marking. They are very knowledgeable about hog hunting and do a lot of. They also sell suppressors and night vision. I bought my PVS-14 from them and haven't found a better price anywhere. They were able to help with the best setup for me because they use thier products. Hope this helps and good luck End Quote
Thanks man if you don't mind me asking how much was your pvs-14? The only reason I ask is because I might have enough money after my move to purchase one. Do they sell scopes and bases? If so ill just wait on buying any optics and see what they think my best set up would be. Ill call them today.
Originally Posted By itsARanchrifle: paid $3000 for mine.
It was a police trade in.
It came with a head mount and a QD rifle mount.
It was a police trade in.
It came with a head mount and a QD rifle mount.
Well I can say I paid less then 3K and it's a brand new PVS-14 with a gen 3 auto gated tube.
12/18/2011 11:24:15 AM
I start my new job Jan 9 so ill be moving the week before. I called Ident Marking and talked to a guy named Jason, he told me to come by on a tuesday or thursday night and look at some stuff. He explained to me how night vision works and told me that he will let me see the difference Between gen. 1, 2, and 3. Depending on how much money I have after the move and getting settled in I should be able to purchase something.
12/18/2011 12:10:26 PM
Originally Posted By Robocop1911:
I start my new job Jan 9 so ill be moving the week before. I called Ident Marking and talked to a guy named Jason, he told me to come by on a tuesday or thursday night and look at some stuff. He explained to me how night vision works and told me that he will let me see the difference Between gen. 1, 2, and 3. Depending on how much money I have after the move and getting settled in I should be able to purchase something.
I start my new job Jan 9 so ill be moving the week before. I called Ident Marking and talked to a guy named Jason, he told me to come by on a tuesday or thursday night and look at some stuff. He explained to me how night vision works and told me that he will let me see the difference Between gen. 1, 2, and 3. Depending on how much money I have after the move and getting settled in I should be able to purchase something.
There's no turning back now!! LOL.. Those guys will get ya setup. I'd go gen 3 especially since Ident sells them for prices closser to gen 2.
12/19/2011 6:12:26 AM
Originally Posted By hdfireman:
Robo if you move to the Dallas area I would go talk to the guys at Ident Marking. They are very knowledgeable about hog hunting and do a lot of. They also sell suppressors and night vision. I bought my PVS-14 from them and haven't found a better price anywhere. They were able to help with the best setup for me because they use thier products. Hope this helps and good luck
Originally Posted By Robocop1911:
Hey guys good news just I got a job offer to relocate to Dallas in a couple of weeks. Im seriously considering it. Does anybody hunt around Dallas area or know people that do and if so how successful is it? I wouldn't mind moving to Texas to make more money and help eradicate the population of pigs.
Hey guys good news just I got a job offer to relocate to Dallas in a couple of weeks. Im seriously considering it. Does anybody hunt around Dallas area or know people that do and if so how successful is it? I wouldn't mind moving to Texas to make more money and help eradicate the population of pigs.
Robo if you move to the Dallas area I would go talk to the guys at Ident Marking. They are very knowledgeable about hog hunting and do a lot of. They also sell suppressors and night vision. I bought my PVS-14 from them and haven't found a better price anywhere. They were able to help with the best setup for me because they use thier products. Hope this helps and good luck
How much are they're suppressors, and what calibers do they have?
12/19/2011 10:09:05 AM
Originally Posted By Robocop1911:
How much are they're suppressors, and what calibers do they have?
Originally Posted By hdfireman:
Robo if you move to the Dallas area I would go talk to the guys at Ident Marking. They are very knowledgeable about hog hunting and do a lot of. They also sell suppressors and night vision. I bought my PVS-14 from them and haven't found a better price anywhere. They were able to help with the best setup for me because they use thier products. Hope this helps and good luck
Originally Posted By Robocop1911:
Hey guys good news just I got a job offer to relocate to Dallas in a couple of weeks. Im seriously considering it. Does anybody hunt around Dallas area or know people that do and if so how successful is it? I wouldn't mind moving to Texas to make more money and help eradicate the population of pigs.
Hey guys good news just I got a job offer to relocate to Dallas in a couple of weeks. Im seriously considering it. Does anybody hunt around Dallas area or know people that do and if so how successful is it? I wouldn't mind moving to Texas to make more money and help eradicate the population of pigs.
Robo if you move to the Dallas area I would go talk to the guys at Ident Marking. They are very knowledgeable about hog hunting and do a lot of. They also sell suppressors and night vision. I bought my PVS-14 from them and haven't found a better price anywhere. They were able to help with the best setup for me because they use thier products. Hope this helps and good luck
How much are they're suppressors, and what calibers do they have?
I bought a 5.56 suppressor that Ident manufactures and it was $550.00. I don't know any other prices but I am pretty sure they can get any brand.
12/19/2011 11:32:53 AM
Originally Posted By hdfireman:
Ok Thanks mr. Fireman ill try and stop by there after christmas and new years.
I bought a 5.56 suppressor that Ident manufactures and it was $550.00. I don't know any other prices but I am pretty sure they can get any brand.
Originally Posted By Robocop1911:
How much are they're suppressors, and what calibers do they have?
Originally Posted By hdfireman:
Robo if you move to the Dallas area I would go talk to the guys at Ident Marking. They are very knowledgeable about hog hunting and do a lot of. They also sell suppressors and night vision. I bought my PVS-14 from them and haven't found a better price anywhere. They were able to help with the best setup for me because they use thier products. Hope this helps and good luck
Originally Posted By Robocop1911:
Hey guys good news just I got a job offer to relocate to Dallas in a couple of weeks. Im seriously considering it. Does anybody hunt around Dallas area or know people that do and if so how successful is it? I wouldn't mind moving to Texas to make more money and help eradicate the population of pigs.
Hey guys good news just I got a job offer to relocate to Dallas in a couple of weeks. Im seriously considering it. Does anybody hunt around Dallas area or know people that do and if so how successful is it? I wouldn't mind moving to Texas to make more money and help eradicate the population of pigs.
Robo if you move to the Dallas area I would go talk to the guys at Ident Marking. They are very knowledgeable about hog hunting and do a lot of. They also sell suppressors and night vision. I bought my PVS-14 from them and haven't found a better price anywhere. They were able to help with the best setup for me because they use thier products. Hope this helps and good luck
How much are they're suppressors, and what calibers do they have?
Ok Thanks mr. Fireman ill try and stop by there after christmas and new years.
I bought a 5.56 suppressor that Ident manufactures and it was $550.00. I don't know any other prices but I am pretty sure they can get any brand.
Ok thanks Mr. Fireman ill try to stop by there next year after I move. Ill keep posting after I go. im still looking for places to hunt in the area. If you have any places in mind that I could go PLEASE let me know. Over
12/19/2011 12:19:17 PM
Originally Posted By Rojodiablo:
If you do not have access to private land, then look to the EDGES of public hunting lands. While 'deepest, darkest forest' might be a good choice for a wily wise old whitetail...... a pigs a pig's a pig. They are at the least pattern consistent animals. Look at topo maps, and find creeks, low areas/ marsh areas, and water holes, guzzlers for cattle if possible. Then, look to a line to AG land. Where are there farms close by, in what direction? Now, you have 3 areas in your periphery: Heavy cover, water, and food. Next is to learn travel paths and rooting/ wallows. Any fence with tracks coming to it will show hair stuck on barbed wire, and usually some mud if the hogs are wallowing a lot nearby. A wet hog will give itself away easily.
Learn the track, follow it as best you can. Where it comes up to farm land, glass that stuff hard. You might see the hogs, or rooting. Try to learn their pattern, and at the same time, learn the wind in that area. What they can not see they can smell. The basic is: the wind goes across the track, to you. Put yourself in a spot to minimize the wind disadvantage. If you see hogs, or a shit-ton of rooting on farm land, take a pic or 2. Look for that farmer and talk to him. Ask permission to go put some pressure on his hogs for him. Offer to share your catch with him. Chances are, you will get your opportunity. If not, thank him and leave your number, tell him you will come out right quick if he needs some help with the rooting and tearing up of the crops. (You'll get a phone call 70-% of the time)
Now, say you are in. Learn their timing. Or, say you're out. Learn their timing!!!! Hogs like a few things, and those are: Sleeping. Eating. Wallowing. Making piglets. Hogs sleep off the heat of the day. Their first move in the eve is to water; they usually bed down close to water in THICK shit cover. Drink and wallow to get mud on to stall the ticks, fleas and ants. Next is travel to food. This takes up the entire night; hogs will feed 3-6 plots a night. They RUN across open land, and cruise thru brush slowly. The pattern and travel distance is purely based on food availability and PRESSURE. If pressured, hogs will travel miles between plots. In big country like California where I am; they will travel as much as 8 miles non-stop to a good food plot. Once there, if not pressured, they will feed well into the morning, around say 7 am in open country, and as late as 10 am in tighter country with more woods on flat ground. From the food plot it's back to the water hole for a drink and to bury the ticks in mud. Then, they look for a bedding area.
If they are pressured, they will move fast all night, spending 5-20 minutes in a food plot at most. The good news is, they will hit 5-6 plots, and they will hit them 2-4 times each night.
If you can learn where they are watering, and find some trails to a feed plot, then set up your timing and catch them coming and going. If you can not hunt at night, then really concentrate on getting out there and watching where they are headed int he dark as best you can, and figure where to be in daylight. Near an active wallow in hot weather is almost a slam dunk. If you can find a tunnel into a bedding area, then you have it narrowed down as well. I suggest you DO NOT go into that bedding area, and do NOT send your dog in there. 2 reasons: Boars fuck things up in their house, and you on your stomach in a briar patch is not the way to fight a hog. And, if you stink the place up too much, the hogs will abandon that bed for a couple days. They do NOT like the smell of dogs in their house.
Last; practice your shooting. Hogs in cover are hard to pin down. They do not sit still. They WILL wind you. A low magnification scope with a big field of view is real helpful; put the crosshairs or the dot in the center of the black mass, and shhoooot it quickly. Practice for just this kind of hunting. If you bench shoot through a 12X scope, taking 30 seconds between shots??? Yeah, you will kill you some hogs. You will even get great shots. But most pigs will step out on you right about the time that you think you are going to take the safety off. Too late! Learn to shoot carbine style; fast and dirty. Acquire target, get on it, shoot it. Hell, shoot it a few times if that's what it takes. For an ar15, use GOOD bullets. Not target match ammo; good hunting bullets. Barnes TSX, Federal Fusion, Winchester XPII are good also. Since you don't get to choose the hog you shoot often, start with good ammo. While I love ballistic tips for hogs, I only use them in bigger bullets like 30-06. .223 ballistic tips are really fragile bullets meant for antelope and coyotes; too light and they do not retain enough weight to slam dunk a big pig. To me, a .223 is marginal at best for a big hog, but after 3 days of stalking, setting up post on trails and wallows, I won't tell you to pass on the shot on a big pig. I will just say hit it as best you can, as many times as you can, with the best little bullet you can get.
You are gonna love ticks crawling on your nuts in the brush...... welcome to hog hunting!
If you do not have access to private land, then look to the EDGES of public hunting lands. While 'deepest, darkest forest' might be a good choice for a wily wise old whitetail...... a pigs a pig's a pig. They are at the least pattern consistent animals. Look at topo maps, and find creeks, low areas/ marsh areas, and water holes, guzzlers for cattle if possible. Then, look to a line to AG land. Where are there farms close by, in what direction? Now, you have 3 areas in your periphery: Heavy cover, water, and food. Next is to learn travel paths and rooting/ wallows. Any fence with tracks coming to it will show hair stuck on barbed wire, and usually some mud if the hogs are wallowing a lot nearby. A wet hog will give itself away easily.
Learn the track, follow it as best you can. Where it comes up to farm land, glass that stuff hard. You might see the hogs, or rooting. Try to learn their pattern, and at the same time, learn the wind in that area. What they can not see they can smell. The basic is: the wind goes across the track, to you. Put yourself in a spot to minimize the wind disadvantage. If you see hogs, or a shit-ton of rooting on farm land, take a pic or 2. Look for that farmer and talk to him. Ask permission to go put some pressure on his hogs for him. Offer to share your catch with him. Chances are, you will get your opportunity. If not, thank him and leave your number, tell him you will come out right quick if he needs some help with the rooting and tearing up of the crops. (You'll get a phone call 70-% of the time)
Now, say you are in. Learn their timing. Or, say you're out. Learn their timing!!!!
Hogs like a few things, and those are: Sleeping. Eating. Wallowing. Making piglets. Hogs sleep off the heat of the day. Their first move in the eve is to water; they usually bed down close to water in THICK shit cover. Drink and wallow to get mud on to stall the ticks, fleas and ants. Next is travel to food. This takes up the entire night; hogs will feed 3-6 plots a night. They RUN across open land, and cruise thru brush slowly. The pattern and travel distance is purely based on food availability and PRESSURE. If pressured, hogs will travel miles between plots. In big country like California where I am; they will travel as much as 8 miles non-stop to a good food plot. Once there, if not pressured, they will feed well into the morning, around say 7 am in open country, and as late as 10 am in tighter country with more woods on flat ground. From the food plot it's back to the water hole for a drink and to bury the ticks in mud. Then, they look for a bedding area.
If they are pressured, they will move fast all night, spending 5-20 minutes in a food plot at most. The good news is, they will hit 5-6 plots, and they will hit them 2-4 times each night.
If you can learn where they are watering, and find some trails to a feed plot, then set up your timing and catch them coming and going. If you can not hunt at night, then really concentrate on getting out there and watching where they are headed int he dark as best you can, and figure where to be in daylight. Near an active wallow in hot weather is almost a slam dunk. If you can find a tunnel into a bedding area, then you have it narrowed down as well. I suggest you DO NOT go into that bedding area, and do NOT send your dog in there. 2 reasons: Boars fuck things up in their house, and you on your stomach in a briar patch is not the way to fight a hog. And, if you stink the place up too much, the hogs will abandon that bed for a couple days. They do NOT like the smell of dogs in their house.
Last; practice your shooting. Hogs in cover are hard to pin down. They do not sit still. They WILL wind you. A low magnification scope with a big field of view is real helpful; put the crosshairs or the dot in the center of the black mass, and shhoooot it quickly. Practice for just this kind of hunting. If you bench shoot through a 12X scope, taking 30 seconds between shots??? Yeah, you will kill you some hogs. You will even get great shots. But most pigs will step out on you right about the time that you think you are going to take the safety off. Too late! Learn to shoot carbine style; fast and dirty. Acquire target, get on it, shoot it. Hell, shoot it a few times if that's what it takes. For an ar15, use GOOD bullets. Not target match ammo; good hunting bullets. Barnes TSX, Federal Fusion, Winchester XPII are good also. Since you don't get to choose the hog you shoot often, start with good ammo. While I love ballistic tips for hogs, I only use them in bigger bullets like 30-06. .223 ballistic tips are really fragile bullets meant for antelope and coyotes; too light and they do not retain enough weight to slam dunk a big pig. To me, a .223 is marginal at best for a big hog, but after 3 days of stalking, setting up post on trails and wallows, I won't tell you to pass on the shot on a big pig. I will just say hit it as best you can, as many times as you can, with the best little bullet you can get.
You are gonna love ticks crawling on your nuts in the brush...... welcome to hog hunting!
Good stuff!
12/19/2011 1:22:05 PM
Originally Posted By Rojodiablo:
Where at in CA you have hogs? I would love to go and shoot some if the CA Gov't wont arrest me for bringing guns over
Believe it or not, like 54 out of 57 counties in Ca have wild hogs in them!!! The groups in SD have wised up, and are sticking hard to private land and super heavy cover. Hunters here had a field day with them for a year or so. Up in north L.A. Tejon has hogs on it, and they are a fun hunt. Very challenging; open plains, hillside oaks, steep canyons and grain plots. You cover a lot of ground hunting them. Central Ca has them in many places, some on public land, most on private land. They do cross over, but you need to really invest a lot of time looking for them. It's a 5-8hr drive, so I don't get up there often enough. NorCal has them, very good in some places. Near the coast it's pretty decent, deep canyon hunting. Lots and lots of glassing.
FWIW, i was driving home from Tx on I 10 this Sept. and I saw a dead hog on the road, in Az. It was no Javelina; I saw 3 of those also. This was a straight up 250lb hog that got in a fight with a car on the road.Location was east of Glendale, where the 10 sweeps closer to the Mexican border. Alfalfa and citrus farms. If you could find them there, it would be a blast; miles of open range. I'd be tapping them way out like it was a coyote hunt!!! There are some hogs now on the Colorado river, and around the marsh areas of Havasu. Saw a sounder in daylight in the tules while bass fishing. Lotta good 12lb test and a spinnerbait was going to do me for that!!! From now on, when I fish those lakes, I am bringing some heat with me. Keep your eyes and ears peeled, the pigs will not be eliminated there any time soon.
With open desert, they travel best in winter rainstorms. When there is lots of water, they are prompted to search out new beds and feed plots. Especially young boars, kicked out of a sounder at about 1 yr old. Too young to run a harem, but big enough to draw away a young sow or 2 and start his own team. He will hook up some girls and herd them to new areas away from the older boars who run the sounders where he came from. They are now in Mx pretty heavily in places, and since there is so little allowed big caliber rifles, hogs WILL expand their turf in Mx very fast. They already are. It's all about glassing, under a full moon.
Where at in CA you have hogs? I would love to go and shoot some if the CA Gov't wont arrest me for bringing guns over
Believe it or not, like 54 out of 57 counties in Ca have wild hogs in them!!!
The groups in SD have wised up, and are sticking hard to private land and super heavy cover. Hunters here had a field day with them for a year or so. Up in north L.A. Tejon has hogs on it, and they are a fun hunt. Very challenging; open plains, hillside oaks, steep canyons and grain plots. You cover a lot of ground hunting them. Central Ca has them in many places, some on public land, most on private land. They do cross over, but you need to really invest a lot of time looking for them. It's a 5-8hr drive, so I don't get up there often enough. NorCal has them, very good in some places. Near the coast it's pretty decent, deep canyon hunting. Lots and lots of glassing.
FWIW, i was driving home from Tx on I 10 this Sept. and I saw a dead hog on the road, in Az. It was no Javelina; I saw 3 of those also. This was a straight up 250lb hog that got in a fight with a car on the road.Location was east of Glendale, where the 10 sweeps closer to the Mexican border. Alfalfa and citrus farms. If you could find them there, it would be a blast; miles of open range. I'd be tapping them way out like it was a coyote hunt!!! There are some hogs now on the Colorado river, and around the marsh areas of Havasu. Saw a sounder in daylight in the tules while bass fishing. Lotta good 12lb test and a spinnerbait was going to do me for that!!!
From now on, when I fish those lakes, I am bringing some heat with me. Keep your eyes and ears peeled, the pigs will not be eliminated there any time soon.
With open desert, they travel best in winter rainstorms. When there is lots of water, they are prompted to search out new beds and feed plots. Especially young boars, kicked out of a sounder at about 1 yr old. Too young to run a harem, but big enough to draw away a young sow or 2 and start his own team. He will hook up some girls and herd them to new areas away from the older boars who run the sounders where he came from. They are now in Mx pretty heavily in places, and since there is so little allowed big caliber rifles, hogs WILL expand their turf in Mx very fast. They already are. It's all about glassing, under a full moon.
wow great information! I will have to do some research into the area over towatrds Glendale. I go to GCU out in DT PHX area not far from the Card Stadium so I could go for a hog hunt on a weekend without using to much gas. I know some of the ranches/farm lands out there in s. part of Glendale. Best time to hunt them hogs then is at night you say? Cause if I can find some good hog hunting areas, I would love to have a group bbq, hell maybe a AZHTF BBQ. Do you come into AZ very often then? If so we should do a weekend hog hunt somewhere in AZ. I know a couple places but their up by the NV, AZ< and UT border. I never have hunted out by the Yuma MX border before only 4-wheeled! So I will IM you my information!
12/21/2011 1:23:33 PM
I read some where about a Pig Pipe does anyone have any experience with this? Do you have to sit in a stand to hunt them like deer or can you have multiple pig pipes and just creep around to each one of them?
12/21/2011 9:43:47 PM
Originally Posted By Robocop1911:
I read some where about a Pig Pipe does anyone have any experience with this? Do you have to sit in a stand to hunt them like deer or can you have multiple pig pipes and just creep around to each one of them?
I read some where about a Pig Pipe does anyone have any experience with this? Do you have to sit in a stand to hunt them like deer or can you have multiple pig pipes and just creep around to each one of them?
Creeping around is a relative term. Where would you be creepin' and would this be day, night, heavy cover or semi-open fields??
If you are working a feeder or any kind of planted situation, your best bet is to set up cams and watch them. Set 3-4 of them, and see what gets hit when. When the hogs pattern, they are used tot he situation. You time it, and obviously need to be sure the weather pattern is similar to the one where you see the hogs. (If there feeding at 9am, 2 times, but not at 10pm....... don't bother with a nite stalk.) And similarly, if they are there at 11pm on clear nights, don't head out in a 40mph blow and cloud cover. If you put down too much scent in tight cover, they will leave and not come back for days. Open land is much different. if you get a feed set up, and you have sign they are visiting, stay clear of the feed, and STAY downwind of it. Keep a low profile to keep 'yotes from busting you and narcing you out. Wait 'em out, sundown, sunrise, whenever they seem to come in.
12/21/2011 9:44:29 PM
Jered, I got your PM, I will get with you soon. It's crazy here right now. Mom is in town!!!
12/22/2011 5:16:24 AM
Hey all I just moved to denham springs area and after 5 yrs the drs and wife said I can now go hog hunting. I was wounded in fallujah Iraq whale in the marines and the VA idiots sent me here for Oschner Nueromedical Center to finish up putting me back on my feet. I just joined this site. I have a stag model 8 with the 1/7 barrel and a trijicon tr24g. Someone suggested I use 5.56 cause I'm familiar with it and the recoil ain't like my old m40a3. I'm going on a hunt mid January of all pans out but if any of y'all could give me some advice on what range for my zero and shot placement for 350 +/- Russian boar any advice much preciated. BY the way it was suggested I use 70 gr tsx so I had a real nice dude in NY does hand loads for rich safari types name company is Safari Arms. They look great cannalure and all I'll be Huntin in N La. I'll have my .45 on my hip so what y'all think the place goin I could shoot from a stnd, stalk, or dogs. I never been up against anything with 4 legs that was dangerous so any general info would help. Fortes Fortuna Juvat
12/22/2011 11:31:53 AM
Originally Posted By Robocop1911:
I read some where about a Pig Pipe does anyone have any experience with this? Do you have to sit in a stand to hunt them like deer or can you have multiple pig pipes and just creep around to each one of them?
me stinks, ops, ya hear that? whew, worken on a stink bomb, ya call it skunks in the trunks... back ta the pipes, have used one of them thar 2 qrt plastic pop bottles, an filled with corn, &, deer & elk feed, little pellets, then cut small hole in side's, layed on the ground, were the deer or hog has ta roll it ta get the food out... sitting in stand or moving from pipe to pipe tis optional... had noticed ya be moven ta Texas, if no luck finding place ta hunt, they have some good programs, WMA land... got 4 last year, tried the copy & paste method, on fortunatley, got aholed of some cheep glue... didn't stick... copy & paste method talking about picture of hog took with blackpowder...I read some where about a Pig Pipe does anyone have any experience with this? Do you have to sit in a stand to hunt them like deer or can you have multiple pig pipes and just creep around to each one of them?
