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Ordered a LE6920...refused transfer
8/16/2011 1:44:40 PM
I was disappointed when I opened the box. Most of the finish on the left edge of the upper where it meets the lower was knocked off to the point of shiny aluminum was showing. When I took the carry handle off, there were dents and gouges on the rail. 
Looks like it got out of the factory that way, at least the box was taped and didn't appear to have been opened. I ordered a 6450 at the same time, and it was fine. I've never gotten a new firearm delivered in that bad of shape, honestly.
If the distributor still has any in stock, they will send another, if not, credit my card. I'm not bitching, these things happened. Was looking forward to a range day with the 6920, though.
The 6450 is my first 9mm AR, I'm betting it will become my favorite at our local IDPA carbine side matches
Looks like it got out of the factory that way, at least the box was taped and didn't appear to have been opened. I ordered a 6450 at the same time, and it was fine. I've never gotten a new firearm delivered in that bad of shape, honestly.
If the distributor still has any in stock, they will send another, if not, credit my card. I'm not bitching, these things happened. Was looking forward to a range day with the 6920, though.
The 6450 is my first 9mm AR, I'm betting it will become my favorite at our local IDPA carbine side matches
8/17/2011 10:05:31 AM
ANY PICTURES?
8/17/2011 11:23:21 AM
Originally Posted By COLT:
ANY PICTURES?
ANY PICTURES?
No, we boxed it back up, the transfer dealer was having a hectic day, and was in a hurry. By the time I decided to decline the transfer of the 6920 and had filled out the paperwork for the 6450, his helper had the 6920 boxed up and ready to ship back. I would have liked to get pics, but i didnt want to ask them to unbox it again. Sorry.
8/17/2011 2:51:47 PM
It happens and really sucks.
QC at Colt does not do a good job once a while.
QC at Colt does not do a good job once a while.
8/17/2011 3:08:36 PM
Damn, I'm sorry to hear that
Please keep us posted as to how it goes.
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Please keep us posted as to how it goes.
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8/18/2011 4:24:45 PM
I ordered the rifle from Bud's and they sent out a return ticket to my ffl the same day. I'm considering changing my order to a LE6940 when they issue credit on the 6920.
8/18/2011 5:38:00 PM
but, but, I thought Colt was top of the line 
8/18/2011 6:43:45 PM
Originally Posted By aperdue:
but, but, I thought Colt was top of the line
but, but, I thought Colt was top of the line
Hah, well, I think Colt is top of the line. But mistakes happen, when people are involved. The rifle was probably 100% functional, but the finish had been knocked around a bit. I would have bought the rifle at a "scratch and dent" discount. But at the premium I paid, I declined. Not like their gonna quit making them...oh crap..guess they are...
8/18/2011 7:58:55 PM
Originally Posted By aperdue:
but, but, I thought Colt was top of the line
but, but, I thought Colt was top of the line
Even the most ardent Colt fan wouldn't deny the fact that Colt fucks up once in a while. You'd have to be blind not to.
Perhaps you would be better served spewing your verbal diarrhea elsewhere. You'd get much better results trolling another forum.
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8/18/2011 9:00:33 PM
Originally Posted By aperdue:
but, but, I thought Colt was top of the line
but, but, I thought Colt was top of the line
They are. My friend's 2010 GT3 had a few scuffs on the bumper when he took delivery, I guess Porsche sucks now too, huh?
8/18/2011 9:20:06 PM
Originally Posted By aperdue:
but, but, I thought Colt was top of the line
but, but, I thought Colt was top of the line
wish you had one huh?
8/18/2011 9:33:47 PM
i am not trying to be a troll. didnt realize i was in the colt forum when i posted. over the last year or so, i have listened toa lot of people spout abot how coltis the best and everything else sucks, but it is looking like their qc is not what it once was. i have no problem with colt. i have one of their handguns, and would nothave issue with owning oneof their ARs, but the elitism is getting old.
forgive my bad punctuation and lack of capitalization. my phone is givingme hell.
8/18/2011 9:37:04 PM
Originally Posted By aperdue:
i am not trying to be a troll. didnt realize i was in the colt forum when i posted. over the last year or so, i have listened toa lot of people spout abot how coltis the best and everything else sucks, but it is looking like their qc is not what it once was. i have no problem with colt. i have one of their handguns, and would nothave issue with owning oneof their ARs, but the elitism is getting old.
i am not trying to be a troll. didnt realize i was in the colt forum when i posted. over the last year or so, i have listened toa lot of people spout abot how coltis the best and everything else sucks, but it is looking like their qc is not what it once was. i have no problem with colt. i have one of their handguns, and would nothave issue with owning oneof their ARs, but the elitism is getting old.
forgive my bad punctuation and lack of capitalization. my phone is givingme hell.
Those who know what makes a fighting rifle worthy know that fit and finish is not.
8/18/2011 10:06:48 PM
Originally Posted By aperdue:
i am not trying to be a troll. didnt realize i was in the colt forum when i posted. over the last year or so, i have listened toa lot of people spout abot how coltis the best and everything else sucks, but it is looking like their qc is not what it once was. i have no problem with colt. i have one of their handguns, and would nothave issue with owning oneof their ARs, but the elitism is getting old.
i am not trying to be a troll. didnt realize i was in the colt forum when i posted. over the last year or so, i have listened toa lot of people spout abot how coltis the best and everything else sucks, but it is looking like their qc is not what it once was. i have no problem with colt. i have one of their handguns, and would nothave issue with owning oneof their ARs, but the elitism is getting old.
forgive my bad punctuation and lack of capitalization. my phone is givingme hell.
this is bad habit that comes with the compulsion to make smart ass remarks in every thread one see in active topics. you aint the 1st to come in here and say something about which you know nothing about
no harm done but the bold comments seem to be a contradiction if you dont really mean to troll. why press the point
8/18/2011 11:32:32 PM
Originally Posted By aperdue:
i am not trying to be a troll. didnt realize i was in the colt forum when i posted. over the last year or so, i have listened toa lot of people spout abot how coltis the best and everything else sucks, but it is looking like their qc is not what it once was. i have no problem with colt. i have one of their handguns, and would nothave issue with owning oneof their ARs, but the elitism is getting old.
i am not trying to be a troll. didnt realize i was in the colt forum when i posted. over the last year or so, i have listened toa lot of people spout abot how coltis the best and everything else sucks, but it is looking like their qc is not what it once was. i have no problem with colt. i have one of their handguns, and would nothave issue with owning oneof their ARs, but the elitism is getting old.
forgive my bad punctuation and lack of capitalization. my phone is givingme hell.
please posts links to 3 or more threads where people on this forum stated that Colt is the best and everything else sucks.
8/19/2011 6:05:30 AM
Like I said Shawn, I didn't realize I was in the Colt forum. The last part typically takes place in GD. I made a mistake posting a smart ass remark in one of the Industry sub-forums, and I apologize. I understand it is not what is on the outside that makes a battlerifle. I would have no problem with owning a Colt rifle whatsoever. Now, I am done with the shit I stirred here and am standing by for the hopefully good ending to this thread. It is good to hear that Bud's was so quick in taking the rifle back.
8/19/2011 12:56:53 PM
I wasn't going to say anything in this thread, but I can't help myself.
My only comment is that if I picked up a Colt and it was pristine, perfect roll marks, perfect finish, perfect milling, etc., I would probably want to send it back because I would question it's authenticity.
To me if it's ain't beat up a little bit, it ain't a true Colt. That's how fighting guns are made. Ever seen a new AK off the factory line?
My only comment is that if I picked up a Colt and it was pristine, perfect roll marks, perfect finish, perfect milling, etc., I would probably want to send it back because I would question it's authenticity.
To me if it's ain't beat up a little bit, it ain't a true Colt. That's how fighting guns are made. Ever seen a new AK off the factory line?
8/19/2011 4:07:24 PM
Originally Posted By Predator:
I wasn't going to say anything in this thread, but I can't help myself.
My only comment is that if I picked up a Colt and it was pristine, perfect roll marks, perfect finish, perfect milling, etc., I would probably want to send it back because I would question it's authenticity.
To me if it's ain't beat up a little bit, it ain't a true Colt. That's how fighting guns are made. Ever seen a new AK off the factory line?
I wasn't going to say anything in this thread, but I can't help myself.
My only comment is that if I picked up a Colt and it was pristine, perfect roll marks, perfect finish, perfect milling, etc., I would probably want to send it back because I would question it's authenticity.
To me if it's ain't beat up a little bit, it ain't a true Colt. That's how fighting guns are made. Ever seen a new AK off the factory line?
HA HA me too, I would wonder if it was a chinese knockoff
8/19/2011 5:40:05 PM
I don't even balk at a few dings. Whether it came that way or if it earned it after a few hard range days.
8/19/2011 9:49:10 PM
Originally Posted By Shawnmt6601:
HA HA me too, I would wonder if it was a chinese knockoff
Originally Posted By Predator:
I wasn't going to say anything in this thread, but I can't help myself.
My only comment is that if I picked up a Colt and it was pristine, perfect roll marks, perfect finish, perfect milling, etc., I would probably want to send it back because I would question it's authenticity.
To me if it's ain't beat up a little bit, it ain't a true Colt. That's how fighting guns are made. Ever seen a new AK off the factory line?
I wasn't going to say anything in this thread, but I can't help myself.
My only comment is that if I picked up a Colt and it was pristine, perfect roll marks, perfect finish, perfect milling, etc., I would probably want to send it back because I would question it's authenticity.
To me if it's ain't beat up a little bit, it ain't a true Colt. That's how fighting guns are made. Ever seen a new AK off the factory line?
HA HA me too, I would wonder if it was a chinese knockoff
Damn, I better check mine then. Every Colt I've bought in that last 3 years (about 9 or 10) has looked great in the finish department
8/20/2011 9:32:12 AM
Originally Posted By Predator:
I wasn't going to say anything in this thread, but I can't help myself.
My only comment is that if I picked up a Colt and it was pristine, perfect roll marks, perfect finish, perfect milling, etc., I would probably want to send it back because I would question it's authenticity.
To me if it's ain't beat up a little bit, it ain't a true Colt. That's how fighting guns are made. Ever seen a new AK off the factory line?
I wasn't going to say anything in this thread, but I can't help myself.
My only comment is that if I picked up a Colt and it was pristine, perfect roll marks, perfect finish, perfect milling, etc., I would probably want to send it back because I would question it's authenticity.
To me if it's ain't beat up a little bit, it ain't a true Colt. That's how fighting guns are made. Ever seen a new AK off the factory line?
Haha, I hear ya Predator. I had to think on it awhile, but with the top rail damaged, I had to send that pony back to the stable. My biggest issue with the rifle was not a scratch or two on the finish, but gouges (as in missing metal)and bent flats on the rail edges. Im not sure, but I tkink i would have to take a file to 2 of the rail notches to be able to mount my Trijicon tight.
Why start out with a beat up rifle, if you buying new from a retailer? Ive drilled pins and taken pipe wrenches to canted sight AKs Ive bought, but this is not a 400 buck AK.
8/20/2011 10:13:43 AM
Originally Posted By keninnavarre:
Haha, I hear ya Predator. I had to think on it awhile, but with the top rail damaged, I had to send that pony back to the stable. My biggest issue with the rifle was not a scratch or two on the finish, but gouges (as in missing metal)and bent flats on the rail edges. Im not sure, but I tkink i would have to take a file to 2 of the rail notches to be able to mount my Trijicon tight.
Why start out with a beat up rifle, if you buying new from a retailer? Ive drilled pins and taken pipe wrenches to canted sight AKs Ive bought, but this is not a 400 buck AK.
Originally Posted By Predator:
I wasn't going to say anything in this thread, but I can't help myself.
My only comment is that if I picked up a Colt and it was pristine, perfect roll marks, perfect finish, perfect milling, etc., I would probably want to send it back because I would question it's authenticity.
To me if it's ain't beat up a little bit, it ain't a true Colt. That's how fighting guns are made. Ever seen a new AK off the factory line?
I wasn't going to say anything in this thread, but I can't help myself.
My only comment is that if I picked up a Colt and it was pristine, perfect roll marks, perfect finish, perfect milling, etc., I would probably want to send it back because I would question it's authenticity.
To me if it's ain't beat up a little bit, it ain't a true Colt. That's how fighting guns are made. Ever seen a new AK off the factory line?
Haha, I hear ya Predator. I had to think on it awhile, but with the top rail damaged, I had to send that pony back to the stable. My biggest issue with the rifle was not a scratch or two on the finish, but gouges (as in missing metal)and bent flats on the rail edges. Im not sure, but I tkink i would have to take a file to 2 of the rail notches to be able to mount my Trijicon tight.
Why start out with a beat up rifle, if you buying new from a retailer? Ive drilled pins and taken pipe wrenches to canted sight AKs Ive bought, but this is not a 400 buck AK.
I don't blame you, I would make them replace it too. If the Colt is to be the gun by which others are measured they should come out of the box looking good. When I buy new guns at a new gun price I want it to come looking new.
Did you get a time frame on receiving the replacement?
8/20/2011 10:36:21 AM
Originally Posted By ArmedPete:
I don't blame you, I would make them replace it too. If the Colt is to be the gun by which others are measured they should come out of the box looking good. When I buy new guns at a new gun price I want it to come looking new.
Did you get a time frame on receiving the replacement?
Originally Posted By keninnavarre:
Haha, I hear ya Predator. I had to think on it awhile, but with the top rail damaged, I had to send that pony back to the stable. My biggest issue with the rifle was not a scratch or two on the finish, but gouges (as in missing metal)and bent flats on the rail edges. Im not sure, but I tkink i would have to take a file to 2 of the rail notches to be able to mount my Trijicon tight.
Why start out with a beat up rifle, if you buying new from a retailer? Ive drilled pins and taken pipe wrenches to canted sight AKs Ive bought, but this is not a 400 buck AK.
Originally Posted By Predator:
I wasn't going to say anything in this thread, but I can't help myself.
My only comment is that if I picked up a Colt and it was pristine, perfect roll marks, perfect finish, perfect milling, etc., I would probably want to send it back because I would question it's authenticity.
To me if it's ain't beat up a little bit, it ain't a true Colt. That's how fighting guns are made. Ever seen a new AK off the factory line?
I wasn't going to say anything in this thread, but I can't help myself.
My only comment is that if I picked up a Colt and it was pristine, perfect roll marks, perfect finish, perfect milling, etc., I would probably want to send it back because I would question it's authenticity.
To me if it's ain't beat up a little bit, it ain't a true Colt. That's how fighting guns are made. Ever seen a new AK off the factory line?
Haha, I hear ya Predator. I had to think on it awhile, but with the top rail damaged, I had to send that pony back to the stable. My biggest issue with the rifle was not a scratch or two on the finish, but gouges (as in missing metal)and bent flats on the rail edges. Im not sure, but I tkink i would have to take a file to 2 of the rail notches to be able to mount my Trijicon tight.
Why start out with a beat up rifle, if you buying new from a retailer? Ive drilled pins and taken pipe wrenches to canted sight AKs Ive bought, but this is not a 400 buck AK.
I don't blame you, I would make them replace it too. If the Colt is to be the gun by which others are measured they should come out of the box looking good. When I buy new guns at a new gun price I want it to come looking new.
Did you get a time frame on receiving the replacement?
I could have a replacement sent out as soon as they received the damaged rifle. I chose to have my card credited, and then re-order, its easier for me to keep up with that way.
8/22/2011 11:35:51 AM
Hmm. I have a couple of boxes of sense of humor I'd be glad to ship out, just for the shipping charges; some of you need one badly.
For those of you who believe that the finish isn't as important as the function in a newly-purchased firearm, I'll tell you what I told my people to tell contractors who complained the phosphate finish wasn't as important as the function of the firearm. They were to say, "If we had wanted an unfinished firearm, we would have asked you to bid on it that way and we wouldn't be paying for it. We have paid for it, so please deliver it." (We would have rejected the lot, not the individual firearm.)
For those of you who think a few bad ones get through, I'd suggest a review on recent quality control processes. If one bad one gets through it means the process was bad. For coating, the process might be testing the pH of the bath, etc, verifying the dip time, etc., and a long list of other sub-processes, and it's hard to believe it would be the only one. I'm less impressed with Colt's quality than I was before I read this thread.
For those of you who believe that the finish isn't as important as the function in a newly-purchased firearm, I'll tell you what I told my people to tell contractors who complained the phosphate finish wasn't as important as the function of the firearm. They were to say, "If we had wanted an unfinished firearm, we would have asked you to bid on it that way and we wouldn't be paying for it. We have paid for it, so please deliver it." (We would have rejected the lot, not the individual firearm.)
For those of you who think a few bad ones get through, I'd suggest a review on recent quality control processes. If one bad one gets through it means the process was bad. For coating, the process might be testing the pH of the bath, etc, verifying the dip time, etc., and a long list of other sub-processes, and it's hard to believe it would be the only one. I'm less impressed with Colt's quality than I was before I read this thread.
8/22/2011 4:28:26 PM
Originally Posted By Jaywalker:
Hmm. I have a couple of boxes of sense of humor I'd be glad to ship out, just for the shipping charges; some of you need one badly.
For those of you who believe that the finish isn't as important as the function in a newly-purchased firearm, I'll tell you what I told my people to tell contractors who complained the phosphate finish wasn't as important as the function of the firearm. They were to say, "If we had wanted an unfinished firearm, we would have asked you to bid on it that way and we wouldn't be paying for it. We have paid for it, so please deliver it." (We would have rejected the lot, not the individual firearm.)
For those of you who think a few bad ones get through, I'd suggest a review on recent quality control processes. If one bad one gets through it means the process was bad. For coating, the process might be testing the pH of the bath, etc, verifying the dip time, etc., and a long list of other sub-processes, and it's hard to believe it would be the only one. I'm less impressed with Colt's quality than I was before I read this thread.
Hmm. I have a couple of boxes of sense of humor I'd be glad to ship out, just for the shipping charges; some of you need one badly.
For those of you who believe that the finish isn't as important as the function in a newly-purchased firearm, I'll tell you what I told my people to tell contractors who complained the phosphate finish wasn't as important as the function of the firearm. They were to say, "If we had wanted an unfinished firearm, we would have asked you to bid on it that way and we wouldn't be paying for it. We have paid for it, so please deliver it." (We would have rejected the lot, not the individual firearm.)
For those of you who think a few bad ones get through, I'd suggest a review on recent quality control processes. If one bad one gets through it means the process was bad. For coating, the process might be testing the pH of the bath, etc, verifying the dip time, etc., and a long list of other sub-processes, and it's hard to believe it would be the only one. I'm less impressed with Colt's quality than I was before I read this thread.
you can always just not buy them then
8/22/2011 8:43:49 PM
my colt runs 100%.
isnt that what all the DPMS and Oly guys say after someone posts a thread about how shitty their ____________ is?
isnt that what all the DPMS and Oly guys say after someone posts a thread about how shitty their ____________ is?
8/22/2011 9:38:12 PM
Originally Posted By FennRx:
my colt runs 100%.
isnt that what all the DPMS and Oly guys say after someone posts a thread about how shitty their ____________ is?
my colt runs 100%.
isnt that what all the DPMS and Oly guys say after someone posts a thread about how shitty their ____________ is?
yep
an. " I havent had a problem with my ______ in the entire 200 rounds I shot through it in the last 6 months":
8/22/2011 9:38:33 PM
Originally Posted By FennRx:
my colt runs 100%.
isnt that what all the DPMS and Oly guys say after someone posts a thread about how shitty their ____________ is?
my colt runs 100%.
isnt that what all the DPMS and Oly guys say after someone posts a thread about how shitty their ____________ is?
That is what really matters, right?
8/23/2011 12:31:52 AM
Edited...VA-gunnut
8/23/2011 12:31:00 PM
Keninnavarre,
I would of refused transfer also.
Sent it back to Colt and have them make it right.
Its your hard earned money ( especially in this economy) it should function and look 100 percent.
If Colt gets enough returns.
Colt will have no choice but to make it right.
John
I would of refused transfer also.
Sent it back to Colt and have them make it right.
Its your hard earned money ( especially in this economy) it should function and look 100 percent.
If Colt gets enough returns.
Colt will have no choice but to make it right.
John
10/6/2011 8:10:30 PM
colt will make it right . i have all colts and wont shoot anything else ! 1 of my 6920 pushing 10,000 rnds now and runs flawlessly just as always did. THANK YOU COLT
10/10/2011 10:45:03 PM
Originally Posted By CJan_NH:
Even the most ardent Colt fan wouldn't deny the fact that Colt fucks up once in a while. You'd have to be blind not to.
Perhaps you would be better served spewing your verbal diarrhea elsewhere. You'd get much better results trolling another forum.
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So true.Originally Posted By aperdue:
but, but, I thought Colt was top of the line
but, but, I thought Colt was top of the line
Even the most ardent Colt fan wouldn't deny the fact that Colt fucks up once in a while. You'd have to be blind not to.
Perhaps you would be better served spewing your verbal diarrhea elsewhere. You'd get much better results trolling another forum.
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A lot of people don't realize Colt ( unlike almost all other AR-15 "manufacturers" ) is actually a real plant that makes stuff AND assembles it.
It's an unfortunate fact that every manufacturer out there has Q.C. issues of one kind or another. It's the amount of issues over time ( return rate ) and how the issues are handled ( customer service, corrective actions ) that's most important.
Colt does drop the ball from time to time, not just on out the door, at the customer Q.C issues....but even in return customer service.
When you look at the BIG picture however, and consider that Colt moves and sells a HELL of a lot of arms. Their return rate and issues solved satisfactorily rate are stunning.
That NEVER makes you feel better when it's your gun that has an issue, though. Deal with guns ( or anything ) long enough and you'll get something unsatisfactory from someone at sometime. It's the law of averages.
10/12/2011 9:48:54 AM
i gave up a long time ago even entertaining the people who say that other said mfgs are " equal to or better than colt " NICE TRY BUT NOT EVEN CLOSE !
